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Quote from try2bcool69

Next thing you know, you people will want rotary phones and 8-track tapes.

Again, if there are mods that do what you want, then there is no reason to change it in vanilla, and the more you guys complain about it, the less likely it is that jeb will change anything at all. He's already proven to be quite stubborn, and the tactics some of these people use to persuade him, just **** him off.

Nice complaint thread you've got there, btw, I don't understand how it has been alive that long without being locked, there is nothing but whining and grumbling on it. Not one constructive thought on there, just hate and butthurt.

Quote from Mineswe

That one is perfect how do i get it

Quote from Annlaw_Clayshaper

Please do tell me, where exactly do I say that your mods have anything to do with fixing bugs and 1.3 snapshots?
Because I am fairly sure I did not.

I merely suspect that you bash on the ssp/smp merger all the time because every time you make one of your repetitive posts
your banner gets free airtime

Quote from Annlaw_Clayshaper

I strongly suspect he is whining so much in order to get more exposure for his mod

Quote from MAP5597

Changelog in one of the snapshots says fullscreen mode must be changed in options.txt or something like that. I guess they forgot to remove the F11 button.

Quote from pureprogger

Why, tell me why?!

Dear Mojang,
if you know how to use machine-oriented and cross-platform languages like C++ instead of slow-running Java, then there would be no reason to merge single player and multiplayer just for an API. Also I can't imagine, that Java is such as poor, that there is no possibility of builder configurations and compiler commands. One click and you have single player, multiplayer and what you want... including API. Sometimes, the easier way is not the best.

(sorry for my English)

Quote from Cass724256

The new inv. is the best thing EVER! If you want an item, A: Search it B: Find it C: MIDDLE CLICK IT (Some blocks do not apply, use A or B for these objects)!

Quote from bunkaz92

Bugs? New inventory without blocks in the hot bar isn't a bug, horribly SMp merge? Come on, that is easier to mod, you are just complaining for the sake of complaining

Quote from MD_Bay

That's not a bug lol.

Quote from bunkaz92

Exalm, stop whining about the update, you don't like it? Your problem, is slow? Get a better pc, you prefer old terrain? You can't say that since you own the old days mod. I know that the chunk errors is really bad, but still, look at other stuff and stop complaining.

Quote from Razermilk

I liked the new Desert villages and sanstone stairs, jungle/desert temples, I liked the new Creative mod inventory etc.
I liked all the new things, but the game has bugs that I hope can be fixed before 1.3 Official release.
For example Ive noticed a lot of light bugs, Animals walking through leaves, and the worst is the fact that now there are chunk errors in singleplayer a lot more and it lags a little more because its like a server :/

Quote from CynicBound

As dinnerbone said:

Think of it like this:

1.2.5
You're playing in the client. You start a singleplayer world. Every frame (basically, as many times a second as it can) the client does this:
- Has it been 50ms since my last tick? If so, tick.
- - Poke every single entity everywhere. Make it do something.
- - Poke the world, tick any blocks that need updating
- - Generate new terrain and populate chunks
- - Lots and lots of really intensive stuff to keep the world "alive".
- Draw blocks.
- Draw entities.
- Draw gui.

The "tick" process usually takes more than 50ms because it's so big, so you end up getting less than 20 ticks per second and it lowers your framerate. You can't do anything while it's stuck processing, not even draw what's going on in the screen.

1.3
You're playing in the client. You start a singleplayer world. It starts a new thread in the background, called the "server". The server isn't the server you're used to in that it's not going online to handle lots of connections or anything like that. In fact, think of it as the brain. All it does is think away separately from the client's rendering.

Every 50ms the server does this:
- Poke every single entity everywhere. Make it do something.
- Poke the world, tick any blocks that need updating
- Generate new terrain and populate chunks
- Lots and lots of really intensive stuff to keep the world "alive".
- Send anything that ended up changing to the client to display.

Every frame the client does this:
- Draw blocks.
- Draw entities.
- Draw gui.

The server gets to run everything in its own time. If it can't keep up 1 tick per 50ms (this is 20 ticks per second btw, Minecraft Standard Time) then no big issue; it just skips one and carries on as normal. The client just renders what it knows, and will never get slowed down because the server is stuck working something out. That way the client gets higher FPS (or rather, the FPS just doesn't get lower) and the game is more responsive.

If you don't have a multicore processor and it's a pretty old one, then it can't run both at the same time; you'll end up with the old behaviour where slow ticks will slow your FPS. It may still be smoother due to some special magic, but you're not going to see the performance boosts that everyone else gets.

When you open it up to LAN, the server gains one more step:
- Send anything that ended up changing to any other connected clients, if we have any.

Yep. That's about it.
tl;dr: It may use some more memory, but you'll get better performance as a result.

Anyways without this server merge we can't even have mod api which we have enough people about it already. With the new release my performance has been going a lot better and I can finally play this game properly.

Quote from (FFN) Connor3249

Oh...it isn't as horrible as it was at first (the first time they tested having a mp server on sp server. I watched Docm test his theory's on a livestream of about 50 viewers and the mobs are no where close to as bad as they were.

Quote from erskew2

For anybody complaining about SP and SMP being merged, you do know that you have to actually open up the world to others, right? There's a button in the menu accessed when you press ESC that says, "Open to LAN". Obviously, you have to press this button to allow others to access your world using LAN. I'm really not trying to insult anyone here, but next time it might be better to actually take a look at it in game before complaining about it.

Quote from (FFN) Connor3249

Than what is..

• Internal server in single-player mode?"

Quote from (FFN) Connor3249

So let me get this right...
Single player runs like 1.2.5 now? (On the pre-release)
If so, rejoice!