You're missing the point Mr. Obvious Satire.
If the update is full of critical bugs that are easily found within an hour of normal gameplay, it shows that it either didn't go through any testing or no one even tried to catch blatant flaws. Would you honestly dump your code to the public without debugging it at all? I mean honestly, it isn't THAT hard for someone at Mojang to have at least ATTEMPTED to play the update like a normal person for an hour or two in order to find the defects.
Yes true but the fact remains that WE are the testers and while dumping the code to the beta testing community perhaps was perhaps a little premature it was done to appease a childish, vocal and demanding minority. Regardless of this it still says "Beta" and we all purchased the game in an unfinished buggy state in exchange to be beta testers fully knowing that there would be bugs and as indev, alpha or beta testers we should report them.
I also work for a software developer and time pressures mean that there is not always time to fully check everything prior to release to testing. It is often easier to nail down an offending piece of code when it can be tested under multiple environments. What works in one doesn't in another its simply often faster and leaves the dev team to make fixes much more rapidly if they can get all instances of code failure rather than maybe part fix it on 1 configuration. It boils down to more efficient time management and I would rather notch and jeb spend their adding content rather than spend hours tracking down every instance that the code fails. That is our job as the beta testers.
YEAH! How dare they release a pre-release patch on a beta for a game that is still in development!
They should seriously get it beta tested by a open beta group 1st maybe by millions so that every possible permutation of bug can be located, reported on the official forums and fixed prior to the game officially releasing.
We don't want those buggy updates! We paid for the beta. This is unnaccept.. Oh wait..
Grow up whiny kids. Want a finished product then wait for release build. We are the testers and thats why its says "Beta 1.8" on the screen when you play. You knew that when you bought Minecraft so your false sense of entitlement offends me.
Hopefully you'll all hold your breath until you get your way! Be a lot less pollution in these threads for sure.
Me personally I will take whatever build I am given and enjoy it and give feedback when I can. 1.8 seems to be a great update. I can't wait to see what he does with the next one!
I say go for it. athering the materials yourself only shows that you have patience. Actually building it shows that you can actually build something of worth.
Actually its more of an indication that you have time to burn in game grinding the materials out.
Mining out materials is fine by me but if you spend more time mining the materials then building the enjoyment level of the game can suffer or people start making design compromises because they are made to feel guilty about "cheating" by the purists here.
Invedit till your hearts contempt. Don't let anyone limit your creativity because they wish to cheapen everyone's imagination by applying some stupid arbitrary "But you didn't earn it" label to those that invedit.
I don't have time to grind either because I have a life but I want to build projects that challenge peoples imagination. I can't do this without invedit or /give in my case.
Put simply is it more important to please people in this forum that haven't lifted a finger to help you, mine materials, smelt ores, build tools and fight off mobs or it more important to get the optimal end result without compromise in your project? You decide.
It's just one wall to an eventual temple. I still have no idea what to do with the rest of it.
Wow nice!!
Why not build the wings out from the wall to give the picture depth and shadows.
Perhaps angling towards a central crucible of lightstone or something...
My advice is to try stay way from keeping the structure from being all straight edges. Break it up a bit so that the eye sees curves on walls (Well as much as is possible with placing blocks). You have the foundation of something truly epic there indeed.
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Yes true but the fact remains that WE are the testers and while dumping the code to the beta testing community perhaps was perhaps a little premature it was done to appease a childish, vocal and demanding minority. Regardless of this it still says "Beta" and we all purchased the game in an unfinished buggy state in exchange to be beta testers fully knowing that there would be bugs and as indev, alpha or beta testers we should report them.
I also work for a software developer and time pressures mean that there is not always time to fully check everything prior to release to testing. It is often easier to nail down an offending piece of code when it can be tested under multiple environments. What works in one doesn't in another its simply often faster and leaves the dev team to make fixes much more rapidly if they can get all instances of code failure rather than maybe part fix it on 1 configuration. It boils down to more efficient time management and I would rather notch and jeb spend their adding content rather than spend hours tracking down every instance that the code fails. That is our job as the beta testers.
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They should seriously get it beta tested by a open beta group 1st maybe by millions so that every possible permutation of bug can be located, reported on the official forums and fixed prior to the game officially releasing.
We don't want those buggy updates! We paid for the beta. This is unnaccept.. Oh wait..
Grow up whiny kids. Want a finished product then wait for release build. We are the testers and thats why its says "Beta 1.8" on the screen when you play. You knew that when you bought Minecraft so your false sense of entitlement offends me.
Hopefully you'll all hold your breath until you get your way! Be a lot less pollution in these threads for sure.
Me personally I will take whatever build I am given and enjoy it and give feedback when I can. 1.8 seems to be a great update. I can't wait to see what he does with the next one!
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LOL! yeah I built the first few trees legit and then when it dawned on me the enormity of my undertaking I decided to use server commands.
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Bethesda just lost a sale from me.
A lot of pissed off people over this one.
I forsee a lot of actual real lost sales to torrenting of Skyrim over this predatory behaviour by Bethesda.
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Actually its more of an indication that you have time to burn in game grinding the materials out.
Mining out materials is fine by me but if you spend more time mining the materials then building the enjoyment level of the game can suffer or people start making design compromises because they are made to feel guilty about "cheating" by the purists here.
Invedit till your hearts contempt. Don't let anyone limit your creativity because they wish to cheapen everyone's imagination by applying some stupid arbitrary "But you didn't earn it" label to those that invedit.
I don't have time to grind either because I have a life but I want to build projects that challenge peoples imagination. I can't do this without invedit or /give in my case.
Put simply is it more important to please people in this forum that haven't lifted a finger to help you, mine materials, smelt ores, build tools and fight off mobs or it more important to get the optimal end result without compromise in your project? You decide.
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Wow nice!!
Why not build the wings out from the wall to give the picture depth and shadows.
Perhaps angling towards a central crucible of lightstone or something...
My advice is to try stay way from keeping the structure from being all straight edges. Break it up a bit so that the eye sees curves on walls (Well as much as is possible with placing blocks). You have the foundation of something truly epic there indeed.
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Here is a link to my current Megaproject
viewtopic.php?f=1020&t=213170
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