The game isn't dying, kids still love it, it just doesn't have any new interesting things to add, so they basically add lame feautres most of the times. But you don't need updates, when you can get way better ideas from non-official mods. This is a strong game and won't die any time soon, but won't get any more interesting with the updates any time sooner either.
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Feb 14, 2014Posted in: Recent Updates and Snapshots
You had redstone update, you had horse update, you had world update, all including mobs, blocks, new biomes. You can't really be complaining about ONE version that focuses a different kind of players. 70% of the updates give players new stuff to play lego, this one gives the option to go further, to make something way more insteresting than placing just blocks without any real sense. You too will enjoy a lot of the things that this update will allow players to do, and also the Plugin API, because thanks to them players will be able to make awesome maps, so awesome that they could almost be new versions of minecraft, with everything personalized. So my advice, be happy about 1.8 xDQuote from Leftypower123
14w07a brings... one new feature. Like last week.
And like the previous snapshot, the one feature is tiny. Iron trap doors. Big woop. That's what they did in a week. A modder could have whipped that one up in five minutes.
Why are they just re-writing internal stuffs? Are they gonna release the API with 1.8?
This update must be heaven for those who care about the plug-in API. Too bad I don't care about it. So for me it's a nothing snapshot.
And no I don't hate Mojang. I'm just not a fan of 14w07a.
Feb 9, 2014DanSparrow posted a message on OptiFine HD (FPS Boost, Dynamic Lights, Shaders and much more)Sadly I can't make this work with Forge. I'm using 1.7.2 latest stable version of it, and now it loads, but I get tons of visual errors inside. That with the 1.7.2 optifine 'cause 1.7.4 obviously won't even load. Bottom half of the chests are invisible, legs, pants and boots are glitchy, cows are shown as 4 legs and nothing else, and some other weird stuff. It mostly works but that errors make it really annoying to play. Too bad D:Posted in: Minecraft Mods
Feb 8, 2014DanSparrow posted a message on Latest snapshot brings...............................nevermind. It bring mediocrityPosted in: Recent Updates and Snapshots
you're the one confusing things. Mojang has NO obligation to keep updating the game. All of us knew from the very beginning, long before we buy it, that someday updates are gonna stop. Game was perfectly playable on 1.0 so that was full game. All games have bugs that sometimes never get fixed, but instead Mojang kept UPDATING the game and FIXING bugs, when they had no need to. Like someone said earlier, this game will never be finished, it can be expanded infinitely. They're not finishing the game, that's impossible, they are adding new features to a perfectly playable game and you should thank them for such a cheap game to keep being updated for free, most companies ask for 40-70 dollars for the game and then you have to pay for DLCs.Quote from hardcorerobot
Except Mojang gives you the "updates" because it isn't finished yet....
Don't confuse the responsibility of doing bug fixes with concept of expansion packs.
Adding three blocks of stone and giving the villagers the AI that should have existed in the first place doesn't even deserve the title of "update."
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1. Boats are usefull for crossing oceans. Are you seriously trying to tell us you would rather swim your way!
2.Again i bring up the question of how the do you know what i understand. You neglect the question but it still remains. You don't know ! You say a few new things to test but Mob AI is only one thing. Don't you think a block or two would be possible to add to the snapshot.
1. Boats already do that nothing else needs to be changed. They work perfectly for me to go across oceans, with no problems at all. So if you can't guys, then you need to practice with them until you can drive them that way.
2. Sure they can add them but we don't need the ground to be a rainbow, too many different blocks would look bad like the 4 kind of stones we have now. What kind of ore can they add that we don't have already? We have lapislazuli for trades, redstone and quartz for circuits, iron, gold and diamond for armor and tools/weapons, coal for furnaces and torches. What else would you add an ore for that's not already on the game? 'Cause we don't need harder armors or tools, that's why we have enchanting.
Feb 7, 2014DanSparrow posted a message on Latest snapshot brings...............................nevermind. It bring mediocrityWhat users don't understand is that mojang isn't there to satisfy childish wishes, but to make a better, more deep game. There's no reason for new ores, note at all, they will add ores when they have something USEFUL to do. Like quartz, which brought some aesthetic improvement and materials for redstone stuff. They won't be like newbie modders adding 20 variations of iron, gold or diamond just to make different colored tools or weapons, that's USELESS. You have mods for that no need to add it in vanilla. They will only add new ores when they provide with a resource to create better and more complete features to make gameplay more interesting. My advice, give up on the idea they will just add ores for nothing, because ores are one of the most important blocks in minecraft, they need to have a real purpose, no need for 10 ores doing the same thing.Posted in: Recent Updates and Snapshots
Feb 7, 2014DanSparrow posted a message on Latest snapshot brings...............................nevermind. It bring mediocrityIf you don't know much about the game you should avoid making threads. You don't even understand what a snapshot is. You should feel lucky you are able to test versions before they comeout and instead you complain like a child. Please ddon't ruin this great community with nonsenses, investigate and ONLY THEN make new topics. That's way more useful than a complain based in something you don't even understand. Go check the wiki to learn what a snapshot is, please.Posted in: Recent Updates and Snapshots
Jan 23, 2014Posted in: Recent Updates and Snapshots
wanting something to be removed for such a reason is just selfish. You don't like it? Don't make it. But that's not a reason to ruin other people's game experience just becase some people don't like it. Since no one forces them to make iron farms, they can still mine if they want to. The idea is for it to be OPTIONAL, not a mandatory thing for anyone. If you don't like it in servers just suggest your server owner to forbid them to be built, and apply ban to players who do it. As simple as that.Quote from TheKillswitch
In the long run, it doesn't matter. Automatic is automatic. When you're AFK and effortlessly acquiring metals, it's still pretty overpowered. I say this and I have an iron farm myself. I have more iron now than I will ever realistically use, unless my next house is made of iron blocks.
Jan 22, 2014DanSparrow posted a message on All automation is bad and you should feel bad for spending absolutely any time not mining in Minecraft, even for a few secondsThe whole idea of this thread makes no sense, everyone has the freedom to play however they want. Even mojang agrees, they made hoppers, droppers, lots of things to make automatic machines. Not everyone has your "way too much" free time to spend hours and hours a day mining. Some of us have to work, study and other things in real life to do and only have a few hours a week for the game. Please accept that and don't be selfish.Posted in: Recent Updates and Snapshots
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Dec 6, 2010simo_415 posted a message on Single Player Commands [V4.9] - Official Download [SPC] [+NoClip]Posted in: Minecraft ModsSingle Player Commands (SPC)Version 4.9 for Minecraft 1.6.2
If you're looking for a server, or need to contact me, currently the best place is through this PvP survival server: pvp.darkmines.net.
Download Automated Installation [COMING SOON]
for a video tutorial on how to use the installer
Download Manual Installation [Preferred] - 
NEW INSTALL INSTRUCTIONS - CLICK HERE
Item and Block codes
For Minecraft 1.6.2 - Download Here
Big thanks to q3hardcore for many of the new features
/killall and /butcher now work
Compatability with Mod Loader, PlayerAPI and Forge
The current SPC installer is broken, a new one is being worked on which will be out in a few weeks (hopefully)
New installation instructions, below.
Many other things
How to install (Minecraft 1.6.2)
1. Close Minecraft launcher (if open)
2. Navigate to where minecraft is installed (eg: on Windows %appdata%/.minecraft)
3. Go to versions and copy the 1.6.2 directory and name it something else (eg: 1.6.2.mods). Alternatively, if you have done this for another mod already backup the Minecraft JAR.
4. Open the jar file (using an archive utility, such as 7zip) in the mod directory you created (eg: 1.6.2.jar) and copy all of the files into it except for WorldEdit.jar
5. Delete the files in the META-INF directory except for MANIFEST.MF
6. Close the jar file
7. Copy WorldEdit.jar into .minecraft/bin
8. Rename the jar file to the same name as the directory (eg: 1.6.2.mods.jar)
9. Rename the json file to the same name as the directory (eg: 1.6.2.mods.json)
10. Open the json file in a text editor and the line that contains the id (eg: "id": "1.6.2") change it to the same name as the directory (eg: "id": "1.6.2.mods")
11. Save and close the json file.
12. Start up the Minecraft launcher
13. Create a new profile
14. Select the version that you just created (eg: 1.6.2.mods)
15. Select the rest of your settings.
16. Launch the game.
Note: Using a 3rd party launcher such as Magic Launcher may save you a lot of time in managing mods.
Code is open source at: https://github.com/simo415/spc
For more information on commands use /help in game or visit http://youtube.com/user/spcmod
Periodically I will put up a picture and video which I think are good representations as to what Single Player Commands is capable of. If you would like to get your picture or video featured here please send me a link (via PM or post) and if I like them they will get featured.
Note: Videos should focus on SPC and can be any length (preferably at least 30 seconds)
Stuck on a command, confused or just looking for something new? Check out http://www.youtube.com/user/spcmod for a simple demo of most of the commands this mod provides.
To bring up the command "console" type 'T' then type in the command. Below is a brief run through of the command list:
ADMIN: Due to the number of youtube links here, this content has been removed.
For a list of WorldEdit commands please visit the WorldEdit wiki page: http://wiki.sk89q.co...dEdit/Reference
//limit - Set a maximum number of blocks to change at most for all operations. This only affects yourself. Use this to prevent catastrophic accidents. This command will not override the limit in the configuration if it is set.
//brush clipboard - Switch to the clipboard tool.
//brush cylinder [-h] [height] - Switch to the cylinder brush tool.
//brush smooth [iterations] - Smooth the region.
//brush sphere [-h] - Switch to the sphere brush tool.
//mask - Clear the mask
//mask - Set a mask
//mat - Change the material used by your current brush.
//size - Change the size of the current brushes
//chunkinfo - Get the filename of the chunk that you are in.
//delchunks - Generate a shell script to delete chunks.
//listchunks - Print a list of used chunks.
//clearclipboard - Clear your clipboard.
//copy - Copies the currently selected region. Be aware that it stores your position relative to the selection when copying.
//cut - Cuts the currently selected region.
//flip [dir] - Flip the clipboard.
//load - Load .schematic into clipboard.
//paste [-ao] - Pastes the clipboard.
//rotate - Rotate the clipboard.
//save - Save clipboard to .schematic.
//search - Search for an item by its name.
//worldedit reload - Reloads WorldEdit's configuration.
//worldedit tz - Set your timezone. This is temporary.
//worldedit version - Gets WorldEdit's version.
//cyl [height] - Create a vertical cylinder.
//forestgen [type] [density] - Make a forest.
//hcyl [height] - Create a vertical hollow cylinder.
//hsphere [raised?] - Create a hollow sphere.
//pumpkins - Make a pumpkin forest
//sphere [raised?] - Create a sphere.
//ascend - Go up one level.
//ceil [clearance] - Get to the ceiling.
//descend – Go down one level.
//jumpto - Jump to the block that you are looking at.
//thru - Go through the wall that you are looking at.
//unstuck - Go up to the first free spot.
//up [distance] - Go up some distance.
//clearhistory - Clear your history.
//redo [number of steps] - Redo your last (undo) action. This command replays back history and does not repeat the command.
//undo [number of steps (default – last)] - Undo your last action.
//move [count] [direction] [leave-id] - Move the selection's contents. A block can be specified to fill in the left over area.
//overlay - Place a block on top of blocks inside the region.
//outline - Build walls, floor, and ceiling.
//regen - Regenerate the selection region.
//replace - Replace all non-air blocks blocks inside the region.
//replace - Replace all blocks of the specified block(s) with another block inside the region.
//set - Set all blocks inside the selection region to a specified block.
//smooth [iterations] - Smooth the selection's heightmap.
//stack [count] [direction] - Stacks the selection.
//walls - Build the walls of the region (not including ceiling and floor).
Feb 20, 2014troyboy50 posted a message on ChunkBorders - Visualize chunk boundaries, locate chunk centers, and more.Posted in: Minecraft ModsThe Minecraft Forum is shutting down. For future updates and releases, I am moving everything to the mod's CurseForge page:
What this mod does:
ChunkBorders provides an easy way to see the edges and centers of chunks, as well as identify your world's spawn chunks and spawn area. This can be very useful for people who play on Towny, Factions, or similar servers where chunk boundaries are important for setting up a town, building, and protection. Works on both single and multiplayer.
- To enable the mod, install it and simply press B (by default) in-game.
- You can adjust the radius and other settings by going to either the Main Menu or Pause menu, clicking the tab at the top right, and selecting the "ChunkBorders" mod followed by "Settings".
How many chunks in each direction will be visualized (0 will display only the single chunk you're in, up to 16 which is huge).
- Auto Height:
Makes the borders render at the player's feet and move automatically when you change height.
- Manual Height:
Keeps the borders at the same height, adjustable using the UP and DOWN arrow keys.
- Show center of current chunk:
Shows the 2x2 chunk center for the chunk you're currently standing in
- Show spawn chunks and spawn area:
Toggles visualizing spawn chunks and the 20x20 spawn area.
For 1.14 and later:
1. Install the Fabric Mod Loader.
2. Download the Fabric API and place the .jar file in the /.minecraft/mods/ folder.
3. Download ChunkBorders and place the .jar file in the /.minecraft/mods/ folder.
4. Launch Minecraft using the Fabric profile.
For 1.12.2 and Earlier
1. Install LiteLoader.
Click here for LiteLoader downloads
2. Download ChunkBorders and place the .litemod file in the /.minecraft/mods/ folder. Do not change the extension from .litemod or it will not load.
3. Launch Minecraft using the LiteLoader profile.
Download (Direct Links):
Download ChunkBorders 0.4.0[1.14.2 | 1.14.1 | 1.14]
• Update to Minecraft 1.14.2, now using the Fabric Mod Loader
• Added height option to use the highest block below the player (rather than at the player's feet)
• Added options for chunk corners and chunk walls (the same as the vanilla F3+G behavior)
Download ChunkBorders 0.3.6 [1.12.2]
• Update to Minecraft 1.12.2
Download ChunkBorders 0.3.5 [1.12.1]
• Update to Minecraft 1.12.1
Download ChunkBorders 0.3.4 [1.12]
• Update to Minecraft 1.12
Download ChunkBorders 0.3.3 [1.11.2] [1.11]
• Update to Minecraft 1.11.2
• Fixed crashing issue when rendering all chunk centers
• Update to Minecraft 1.11
• Added toggle to show centers of all chunks rather than just the current one
• Fixed issue with jittery rendering at very high coordinate values
Download ChunkBorders 0.3.1 [1.10.2]
• Updated to Minecraft 1.10.2. With the addition of F3+G ingame, this mod has become somewhat obsolete, but some may find the extra features useful or like the look better.
• This version also works with 1.10
Older versions and changelog:
Download ChunkBorders 0.2.2 [1.8]
• Fixed border height keys not being configurable
ChunkBorders 0.2.1 for Minecraft 1.8
• Update to Minecraft 1.8
Download ChunkBorders 0.2.0 for Minecraft 1.7.10
• Update to Minecraft 1.7.10
• Added option to show spawn chunks as well as the 20x20 spawn area
Download ChunkBorders 0.1.1 for Minecraft 1.7.2
• Made the manual border height keys configurable
ChunkBorders 0.1.0 for Minecraft 1.7.2
• Initial release
Feel free to post any suggestions, feedback, and questions in this thread.
Mar 31, 2011It appears that we lack a big guide/help/advice thread on making cities, and quite often does this section get a thread relating to "What do I build in my city?" Here is my fix:Posted in: Creative Mode
- This will not tell you how to build your city block-by-block, but aid you in constructing one of your own
- Feel free to use this thread as discussion for city building. Please make any posted images relevant to your point
- This thread may not cover all known ways, but it will be a good start. If you have something to add/discuss, feel free to post it here
- When the thread refers to anything related to textures, it assumes you are using the original texture pack unless it is said otherwise
- This has plenty of room to change, especially in the image department. Please feel free to comment or criticize in a constructive manner
- Looking for a list of things to build and could care less about everything else in the thread? See The List
Currently at [v3.0b] with updates coming in early 2015. Not forgotten
Table of Contents
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Your world is huge and contains plenty of plains to create upon. It also features vast forests, deep ravines, towering mountains, twisting rivers and endless oceans. It has pigs, sheep, cows, chickens, zombies, skeletons, spiders and creepers. You have grown an attachment to this world, and TNT or restarting is just not an option; there must be another way. You have built multiple houses in your ventures, started a castle that quickly felt the wrath of the creepers, and you even have a laboratory for your short encounter with redstone. However, there is one last thing you should try before you let the world drop to the bottom of your worlds list: cities.
Cities can be anything from simple to complex, from copy&paste NPC villages to highly unique. You don’t need to have anything specific before you build a city, town or village, you CAN simply think one day, “I want to build a city here!”
Before you start planning/building a city, you should know what you are getting yourself into. This thread will make building cities an art, having sections dedicated to parts that you could care less about. These are all guidelines and can be overlooked, just don’t expect the awesome metropolis that UserX built if you skip over everything. To start building cities, all you need to start off is time... lots of it. Building just about anything in Minecraft is a lengthy task, and when you are building many individual structures, it will take a while. So why spend the time creating them? They will do wonders for your world, especially if you put the time into making your save “Digital Diamond” worthy. You could give your world a background story, cultures and civilizations. If you are willing to go the distance, they can even show relationships between locations/countries, economies and politics. The best part? You don’t need to write that all out, simply plan/build it.
There are many people who struggle with constructing cities, however. These reasons extend past time constraints and limited creativity. I’ll highlight some:
-Creepers love cities. It is a fact. They will hunt you down and blow a hole in your work. No exceptions
-Cities will take large chunks of time to complete, and not everyone is willing to put that much effort into them
-Is the glass half full or half empty? You will likely come face to face with reality: is that city dead, lacking all life, or are you building new civilizations with your bare hands?
-BUILDER'S-BLOCK! See below. It’s a horrible Minecraft sickness that mentally prevents you from building anything
Cities do take a lot of time to build, and they can take a lot of work done right. This guide will attempt to help you build a city right the first time so you don’t need to redo them. It will also assist in making cities more intriguing to other forum users. I will attempt to keep up to date so long as there is the need to keep it so.
Cities, Towns and Villages
There are numerous definitions for cities, towns and alike, and there really isn’t a fine line to tell them apart in the real world. However, we can define them to our liking. For a general outline, I’ll recommend this:
- Metropolis: Bigger than a city, a metropolis is a hub of economy, politics and culture. These would only exist in modern and maybe industrial styles/time periods.
- Cities: Large population centers, and (depending on the time period/style you are using) will have the toughest defences (a Roman city would have had massive walls, but does any modern city?) having walls, turrets and active guards at all times.
- Towns: Towns are lesser cities; being less grand and having not as much defence when applicable (think walls and a watch tower). Generally, a town would hold a population about five-eighths to two-thirds of the population of an average city.
- Villages: Think of Mob Villages already in Minecraft; tiny gatherings of houses with a minimal population. They would have poor to no defence, and would have a maximum of half an average cities population.
You may not be aware of this disease, but I guarantee you have encountered it. The Builder’s Block mental sickness has affected almost every Minecraft player at least once, and it is quite common. The disease is contagious, but in an odd manner; it will force someone to present the sickness publicly through a very uninformative and rushed forum thread. Humans are not susceptible to this form of transmission, however, and often find themselves trying to assist the victim by replying to the poorly created thread, often failing to do so. Fortunately, the sickness has not been proven to be fatal, but it has been known to mentally strain players who are affected.
There is a vague list of symptoms one might expect to feel. You may have Builder’s Block if you have something along the lines of the following:
- Lack of ideas to keep you busy in Minecraft
- The sudden disinterest of continuing a project in Minecraft
- Feeling bored
- The urge to hit one’s head against a nearby wall for ideas
- Uncontrollable urges to press [ESC] and [ALT]+[F4]
Treating Builder’s Block is usually harmless. First, attempt to ‘mine it off’. That is, mine for resources you may/may not need. If you are not willing to spend up to 3 hours trying to heal your sickness, try one of the following to get inspiration:
- Google: Look into random things like your favorite video game level or let’s play person.
- Minecraft Forums: Search the forum for other people’s projects and opt to help them out. DO NOT POST A THREAD; it will probably be overlooked or turn for the worst.
- Minecraft: Explore. See if something demands a structure or statue. That overhang is screaming at you to become an awesome hanging city.
- “THE LIST”: Directly below this section is “The List”. It is a massive compilation of things you can build
Looking for a list of things you can add to/build in your world? Below is a massive collection of structures, landmarks and other man-made ideas that are not limited by themes/styles/time periods. Feel free to use Google to learn about the things you do not know of.
Aether Portal LaboratoryFeel free to post your additions to this list.
Airport Control Tower
Asylum (Comes in a variety of purposes)
Bomb Shelter/Safe House
College (Academics, Magic, Mining…etc.)
Explosives Testing Flat
Flag Pole (With flag)
Government Building (Ex. Parliament Buildings, White House)
Meteor Impact Site
Mill (Lumber, Reed, Wheat...etc.)
Mine (Open Pit, Shaft, Strip)
Mob Examination/Testing Facility
Mob Spawn Building
Nether Portal Laboratory
Nuclear Missile Drop Tower
Nuclear Missile Testing Town
Oil Rig (on sea)
Orchard (Apple, Cherry, Orange...etc.)
Power Plant (Coal-Powered, Nuclear, Wind Turbines...etc.)
Redstone Facility (Place for redstone mechanics)
Space Ship Launch Pad
Store (Food, Supplies/Blocks, Tools, Weapons)
Subway/Mine Cart System
Tool Manufacturing Factory
Train Repair Facility
Walking Path (Through a forest/park)
Water Treatment Plant
Water Wheel Building
Basis of Building
There are a few things that form the very base of building a good looking and functioning city. The Elements and Principles of Building are what make up a city in theoretical manners. You should never just toss an element in because you like it, but work it into your plans. Otherwise your city will look bad and will not attract much positive attention.
The Basics of Building are basic elements that make a city look more like a city. They are small details that are not noticed until they are not there. Add them in where possible, but remember not to overuse things.
Elements and Principles of Block Building
Something to keep in mind if you are looking for a very awesome city is the Elements and Principles of Art/Design. Of course, these are mostly for cities that are being laid out before they are even built, but they can also be used unintentionally. To make the elements and principles more relevant to 3D pixel/block construction, I have altered the names and details of “The Elements and Principles of Design.”
- Layout: How easy it is to get around the city If your city has an unorganized layout, it may be difficult to get to a certain point. A good layout will allow players to get around easily, not deterring them from exploring. This is derived from “Line”, the connection from point A to point B.
- Shape/Form: The shape of buildings The shape of buildings will define a city. Square structures are very common, but triangular roofs are god houses, and long, flat roof houses are nice desert structures.
- Colour: The colours that define the city; could be used as a flag This will assist in unifying the city. It does not need to be complex, a simple 3-colour pattern can do (the French and Italian flags are just that). The colours could also determine relationships between cities (where colour selections from the colour wheel dictate friends/foes/neutrality).
- State: The state of the city: ruined, thriving, forgotten, ‘gold rush’…etc. The state of the city is very important when planning out a city. A thriving city will be much different than a deserted town, and it will also look different. This is derived from “Value”, using the lightness or darkness of colours to create contrast.
- Texture: The type of blocks used in buildings, streets, city clocks...etc. Making buildings look like they belong is a very important thing. Correctly using blocks to unify everything will make a good city great. This is a redefinition of “Texture”, which is implying texture on an artwork.
- Space/Perspective: How the city is built (Location, size/style) Using plains, cliff overhangs, floating islands and everything will affect the perspective on the city. A town built on a plain will be thought of as a ‘cookie-cutter city’ that lacks anything unique (which could be what you are looking for). The city built on the tip of a cliff overhang will seem superior and powerful. My personal favourite (which I still have yet to build) is the hanging city. It appears as a stealthy city holding something that doesn’t want to be found, like amazing architecture or treasures. This a redefinition of “Space/Perspective”, in which one manipulates positive and negative space, and uses perspective to give a 2D or 3D look.
- Pattern: The style of buildings and how they relate to the rest of the city Going hand in hand with “Unity” and “Texture”, pattern is used to make the city not look boring and uninteresting, but unique. Yet, not so unique as to make everything seem different in a bad way. Add unique patterns to a base building blueprint to refresh interest in your city.
- Rhythm/Movement: How easily the city can be navigated without a map Generally, if you need to hand out a map to every visitor, your city is way too confusing. Label structures, have some form of Main Street, and make popular things easy to access. Also, you should keep a realistic approach to building locations. Factories are not built beside a suburban location, nor are mine shafts right outside the town hall (well, this might be an exception; the game is MINEcraft).
- Proportion/Scale: Fitting the city to a proper size Don’t unendingly expand your city. Fit the city to the landscape and its purpose. A logging town isn’t going to be more than a gathering of a few houses and required mills, nor will that easily fit inside a dense forest. And that huge flat plain can be a creative location for a city, assuming it is built correctly.
- Balance: How effective the city building layout is Balancing the building layout is integral to planning a city. You don’t want to get people only to visit one half of your city, nor do you want to have to hand out maps so people can find buildings, so balance things out. Spread out important structures and draw attention to otherwise unnoticed ones.
- Unity: How well the city seems to relate to itself Unifying your buildings is important so that people know where they are. An un-unified city will have people getting lost, or, even worse, not know which city is which. Unifying your world of cities could create distinct countries or cultures.
- Emphasis: Emphasize buildings to have them stand out Emphasize the importance of buildings. Banks, stores and government buildings are very important, and you want them to stand out. Office buildings, houses and warehouses are expendable, so don’t needlessly make them over-detailed. On the other hand, if a big corporation owns the town, do you think they would have a copy&pasted design, or a towering 50 floor skyscraper with oversize windows.
The basics of building cities are really what make it look real. This isn’t about the actual basics, but what is missed when it’s not there. These are, rather, small details that will help you differentiate one city from another, and will help your city not look like you used MCEdit to copy&paste a building over and over.
- Names: Simple and straight forward. Adding a name will not only help you know which city you are in, but it can also develop background, allude to the towns purpose and give a sense on how big the cityis. Really large modern cities may have districts which differentiate the purpose of sections (seeing as modern cities are more self-sufficient).
- Unique Architecture: Cities shouldn’t be cookie-cutter buildings. Square/rectangular structures are fine, but they can get really repetitive fast. Having a variety of architectural designs (like rounded buildings) can only go so far to avoid this. Have cities with their very own architecture not seen elsewhere. This will help create an interesting atmosphere and gain the interest of more users. Some searches on Google for abstract architecture can really pay off.
- Organization: Keep things well organized. The last thing you want is to get lost in your own city because, chances are, any other person will only get more lost. Lay out plans that are logical and easy to understand (ever wonder why roads are really straight with buildings on the side nicely labeled?). Keeping things well labeled and sensible will aid in making a user-friendly environment which will get you more popularity.
- Standards: Should be used sparingly. Standards are how you build/construct/place one thing over and over. Having to many standards will give you a very bland and repetitive city, while not having enough will leave one wondering if one city is five. Leave the bigger things standard-free, like buildings and statues, but put standards on the small things like roads, lampposts and signs. You could even make rooftops the same colour to denote a certain kingdom.
- Locations: To prevent a city from being a building after building scenario, try adding unique locations like parks, statues and monuments. This will spike interest and likely grab the attention of more users. The amount of unique locations you need varies on the size of your city (tiny cities need next to none, while huge metropolises will need tons).
"Don't build a building for a purpose, put purpose into a building."
Styles and Themes
First off, this is my opinion and should not be considered official.
Styles and Themes are important for constructing many cities in one world. Though they sound very similar they are actually very different. Essentially, STYLES are how you build something and THEMES are what you build.
Use of styles and themes can really help make your world look good as a whole.
Styles in Minecraft are important because they denote a medieval town from a modern city. A style is how you build something. Below I will describe a few styles – not all of them, just some unique ones that I can come up with. It should be noted that these styles will be based off North American/European history (as I know them the best, and it seems most people already favour it).
- -Minecraft Old is slightly different from Minecraft New. Minecraft Old is the Medieval version of Minecraft. Cities hardly exist, instead Castles are built with towns inside their outer walls. When building walls, they should be tall and thick while the corners of a wall (the inner wall at the bare minimum) should contain a turret. A nice wall for a Minecraft castle is about 2x12 with turrets that go about 15 blocks high, of course you can set your own standards too. Just to point out, a castle doesn't always have a moat, it was used for defence for castles that rested close to the sea level/where built on fields. Common building materials include wood/log and cobblestone.
- -Minecraft New is the time of the New Land (North America) settlement. Contrary to Minecraft Old, castles are extremely rare. Forts are constructed as a replacement and differ because a fort is more of a military force than a place under someone's rule. Forts usually do not have towns next to them like castles did. Settlements in Minecraft New vary in their size, but are usually surrounded by some form of light defense (such as a fence or short cobblestone wall). Light defensive towers do exist in larger towns, but nothing of the massive stone turrets a fortress may have. The most common building materials include wood, cobblestone and brick (on occasion). Smooth stone should not be used for a building material (people carried rocks to build a wall, not rock walls).
- -Redstone Punk is a hate-able name for Minecraft’s style of steam punk. Steam punk is a cross of fantasy and science fiction where steam-power is prominent. Redstone punk is Minecraft where redstone use is huge and fantasy exists. The world thrives off the existence of one or two massive metropolises, and cities look like towns with industry thrown on it. The fantasy bits come in because it would be perfect to have a huge metropolis on that floating island.
- -Industrial is a more modern feel, think around the era of WWII. Factories, warehouses, companies and all are very big, while castles and forts are historical sights. Buildings in these cities should be huge in comparison to those in the other styles, and these cities should not be surrounded by a wall or such. Often a city will have districts that keep things organized. The main building materials include smooth stone, ore blocks (iron, gold, diamond and lapiz lazuli so long as these ore blocks are not abused), brick and glass. You may also consider making districts (sections of the city for specific purposes, eg. industrial, housing..etc.) as it is very rare that there are houses next to factories or ports.
- -Modern is a recreation of right now back to the post-cold war era. The world isn’t all about new, it’s about better. The economy is rather stable, and rebuilding/refurbishing old castles and forts is affordable. Architecture is being revisited with new ideas, and big industry has turned into environmental concerns. The materials are parallel to the Industrial style, but skyscrapers and office buildings feature huge amounts of glass. When you build a large skyscraper, it should avoid the classic box design (think round, triangular, angled…etc.). Building a few castles that are being rebuilt can also be a good investment.
Themes are not necessary in every city you have, but they do help make a difference between cities. Themes are ideas your city is built around. A good example of a theme for Minecraft is a mining town theme. This would mean that most of the buildings are wooden shacks with a mineshaft/pit nearby or inside the town among other utilities for miners (tool shed, warehouse...etc.). I'm not going to list a bunch of themes (I don't feel the need to), just remember not every city needs a theme, otherwise everything is so different that nothing seems to connect.
Anyone who has ever played Minecraft knows how important materials. For instance, cobblestone is the best building material because you are always trying to get rid of it (or at least when playing survival). Materials are a critical part of a city, and not just because they determine how good your city looks. To make the best city possible, it is important to determine the materials to use and how to use them. Do note: This section is not written in stone, and can easily be debated, please feel free to share your opinion.
There are 3 basic categories of materials: Base Materials, Secondary Materials and Detail Materials. Whether or not you use them is your call, but they all do something to a building. The last thing I want to say before I begin is that rules can be broken when done right. If you know what you are doing, feel free to ignore every single thing I say not to do.
We all know what a Base Material is: whatever you want to build the building out of. Usually, the base material is some form of raw block like cobblestone. As you need stacks upon stacks of this material, it is highly advised not to go with something less common than brick, and even then it may be difficult to amass enough of it.
I recommend avoiding expensive blocks, even if you aren’t in survival. The block value greatly decreases in large amounts and has a much higher probability of being an eyesore. Diamond, gold and obsidian blocks are these kinds of materials.
As you probably know, different base materials define the style of building. You remember styles, right? Wooden planks, cobblestone and wool all give a more medieval look to a building while smooth stone, stone brick, glass and clay brick can look quite modern. From what I have seen, iron bocks, white wool and obsidian seem to be big for science fictional creations (well, a wooden spaceship would just look stupid).
Generally, a builder will construct the creation with the base material and then add the secondary and detailing materials afterwards. However, if you’re working with difficult blocks (smooth stone or obsidian (I warned you)) then it may be much faster to incorporate them as you build
For example, here is your wall. The base material is smooth stone.
You have you cube household of wood, but it looks boring and uninteresting. Secondary materials will add the interest that the base material cannot achieve alone. We all know 1 material on a wall is boring, but checkering between 2 materials grabs people eyes. Welcome to Secondary Materials.
The use of secondary materials is to change up the solid block wall you have, whether it is by crossing 2 materials or outlining a buildings edge. Once you have you base material, replace appropriate blocks with a secondary material. As you will not need stacks upon stacks of secondary material, you can get more expensive. Gold trimming might just be what you’re office building lacks. Some ideas are smooth stone, wood logs, ore blocks, cloth, obsidian and so on. DO not forget to stand back and see how your creation looks. The worst thing to do is outline everything in obsidian and realize the building looks horrible and you need to tear it down.
So now you have an interesting wall. The next step is detail materials. You want windows, you want furniture, you want an entrance. Fill that empty shell of a building you have: use glass or glass panes for windows, wood stairs for chairs, a fence with pressure plate on top to make a table and even more. I told you this wasn’t an interior decorators guide so find out what looks good for yourself.
The idea for detailing materials is to add the function or extra bit of interest in your creation. Whether it be window sills, shutters, tables, chairs, fire places or whatever, put function into that building
Typical techniques in building require patterns, as I said above. What a pattern does is make something stick out (such as obsidian against stone), and so a smooth stone/cobblestone checkered wall will get the first look over a plain cobblestone wall. You don’t need much imagination, an easy checkerboard pattern will work, or maybe you want to seem imaginative and go for some patchwork of cobblestone on the smooth stone wall to make it look aged and ruined.
You would be surprised at the amount of people that hate the use of certain blocks for their looks. If you decide to use these as building materials, expect a lot of mad posters.
-Cobblestone: Apparently a small portion the community thinks it looks ugly, period. If you use it at all, they will either post their hate or ignore it completely. However, it is generally accepted that it looks bad when used excessively (like as a base material). Cobblestone is best used in patterns (whether as the base or secondary material).
-Gravel: Well, since this thread began, gravel received a nice texture-fix. Although still not pleasing to build with, it can be used well for flooring or regenerating walls.
-Diamond/Gold Block: When overused, it tends to scream hacking and looks terrible. It’s good to build with, don't get me wrong; just don't make a building of mostly diamond/gold. Iron tends to be more acceptable, but still add some limits.
-Using anything in large quantities will gather a load of complaints. Space things out well, and add patterns and people might accept your iron/gold/diamond wall.
Texture packs: the bane of the Minecraft Builder. If you ever plan on releasing a world file to the public, you must be very careful in what texture pack you are using. Why is this? Because texture packs have the tendency to make blocks look very different.
The above image is split between a custom texture pack and the default (left being the custom one and the right being default). The place looks a bit different with the texture packs, especially the brick. In the custom texture pack, clay bricks are grey and change the atmosphere of the place. In the default, the brick stands out against the grey everything-else, while the custom texture pack sees it being more fitting.
This is the kind of thing you want to be weary of when building a “public world”. There is a basic rule for this situation: have the default texture pack in mind when building. Most texture packs follow the default textures, so it is the safest bet. If you have a very specific texture pack that steers away from the default texture pack, include it and tell people to use it. The worst thing is to have people looking at your creation the wrong way.
One of the first things to consider when building a city is how you design it. There are 3 used plans, and a 4th that is just not bothering to plan it out. You can follow a certain design, make a hybrid or make your own design with some of the guidelines here. I'll outline the patterns, not tell you how to build them.
Designing a city does have some standards that you may wish to follow: Town halls are always in a city, while churches should be used for the Minecraft New & Old styles. A main road should connect these buildings to the main exit of the town, and it is very plausible to have smaller roads branching off for larger cities.
Suggested Style: Industrial
-Easy to expand
-Looks neat and organized
-Easy to traverse
-Only effective when there are a dozen or more buildings
-It gets repetitive fast if you don't have new building plans
The grid-line pattern is a pretty basic pattern for anybody to use. Many cities today use it which is why I recommend using the Industrial Style, not to say that it wouldn't work with others. The entire city follows similar guidelines to keep things looking organized (all main roads are 3 blocks wide, while side roads are only 2), but this also means things get boring fast unless you have interesting building designs. Once you have 5 buildings in a row of very similar materials, shapes and sizes your city becomes repetitive and thus an eyesore.
Suggested Style: Minecraft New & Old
-Easy to expand
-Little planning required
-Doesn't need lots of buildings
This pattern is really just a collection of buildings with roads winding through it. It is highly effective in giving a village the "this is a remote" atmosphere to it. This design has no cons, but peoples preferences may lead to them avoiding this. There isn't any specific guidelines that must be followed, just put buildings here and there and have roads between them.
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Suggested Style: Any
-Looks really good
-Easy to defend
-Easy to traverse
-Tedious work to setup
-Can't really expand
The tiered pattern is a really interesting pattern. It uses different heights to show what life-style the people live in. Imagine a castle on a hill. At the bottom you have houses, above that are markets and smiths, and at the top is the keep. Take this, but down-scale it and it might not have the keep. The idea is to have houses on the lowest level, markets and higher labor workers (smiths, tailors and craftsmen) on the second, and the king/government/church at the top. However, setting this up requires large amount of landscaping, so don't expect an easy job.
Note: you can get away with having 1 road from the entrance to the top tier, just ensure to leave walking room between buildings.
Suggested Style: Non-Industrial/Modern
-Looks really good and unique
-Easy to traverse
-Simple building style
-Size is limited by time
The radial pattern works in a similar way to districts, but everything is branching out from a central point. You can arrange this pattern to function like the tiered pattern, both function like an onion: layers. The tiered pattern focuses on authority/riches/royalty while the radial pattern focuses on importance/defence. The focus of the radial pattern is the center point. Usually, the center would be something akin to a political structure, but if your city has a theme it could change (to a massive mine for a mining town, or a military headquarters for a military city). Expanding is easy, the only thing to be cautious about is centralizing the important structures.
It doesn't matter what design you pick, but I'm going to reference the standards I went over before as they come in handy when designing a city. Pick how you want your city to look. Do you want to give houses yards in front/back or have them right up against the "curb". Do you want all buildings in an area to be two or more stories to make it look like downtown, or keep them to one story suburbs? These things will denote exactly what you can do to your city later.
Districts have been mentioned more than once during this guide, and yet I think I can still make a section out of it. The point of having districts is to concentrate buildings of a certain type to keep your city organized. Usually, labeling districts isn’t required; the change of materials/structures should be a give-away. However, one may still wish to add in signs for aesthetics.
Determining if you need districts
Only really large cities are required to have districts, especially in Minecraft. Small cities would not be ideal for districts, but a huge metropolis would be confusing without them. A city that one builds casually will not run into the need for districts, but a city coming from an expert builder (in scale) is highly likely to include such a feature.
A couple projects I have found can give you an idea on how large a project must be to create districts:
The Horizon City zombie apocalypse map: When completed, the city is supposed to be 1000x1000 blocks. The only way to keep players sane (and not lost) is to separate the city into districts.
The Mineton city: It’s massive, it’s based off real architecture, and it’s quite cool to look at. Although it lacks specified districts it does separate out into downtown, suburban and farmland locations.
Building a city with districts
Casual players be warned: planning is a keystone with districts. And not the 2-seconds-in-MSPaint kind, the hour-long-brainstorming variety.
To build districts, you need to plan, heavily plan. What do I mean? You need to know what you are building, where you are building it, and how big it is. In other words:
- You need to know what buildings are going into your city. The whole point of districts is to separate different types of buildings (mining, processing, storage, housing…etc.)
- You need a location, and design around that. If your city is by the coast, you’ll probably want some form of docks incorporated. If you’ve got a narrow space, you shouldn’t design a large city to find out it won’t fit.
- You need to scale your districts appropriately. Cities will often focus around a few key districts, and so they will be larger than others. Also, you need to make sure there are enough buildings in each district and make sure the player can always know which district they are in and when they enter a new one (you can do walls, signs, different building materials, different building architecture…etc.)
This is mainly for those interested in making kingdoms and alike, but it can apply to cities/town. Giving your city history can make the world more interesting. If you are making a city, then you can add monuments/memorials/statues for certain wars/battles/events. Maybe there was a huge Creeper War where half the city was destroyed (in which case you would build a statue of a Creeper or have a blasted building/wall), or was there an earthquake that split 1 island into 2? Adding these can take up empty spaces and make potential players more interested in exploring the city. The theme of the city could also be related to any events that happened (a miner town with lots of gold left over from a gold rush). The city could even be named after events (using the previous gold rush example, the town could be named Yellow Cliff).
If you are making a kingdom, you can go a bit farther with this because you are not limited to the city limits (not that you were before). You could make the events rather than represent them only in cities. Maybe there was a meteor shower that demolished a town, leaving behind lit netherrack and lava, or perhaps it was there a gold rush near a mountain, in which there are many abandoned mining towns lying around with mines speckled with gold. You could even make cities enemies of each other by creating battlefields between them (whether crater filled plains or empty, collapsed trenches).
Ancient Golem, created by FirstBreed
Going past the basics of building would mean you wish to do architecture. Of course this is optional, as you only really need the basics to make amazing things, but architecture tends to make them different. Making nice building designs is what this section talks about.
When talking architecture in Minecraft, you talk about many things. Basic architecture is the shape of your building. Average player architecture brings around things like roofing (using steps), shutters for windows, fenced yard...etc. Advanced architecture is above all of these. Adding things like second story balconies, interesting columns, statues and grand staircases are example of advanced architecture. A good thing to note is that architecture really makes something stand out and adds a level of detail into the structure, making it much more eye pleasing (meaning people will look at it longer).
Advanced architecture is a great way to create an economically diverse city. Higher class buildings would have a lot more architecture than a lower class home (assuming the lower class has any). These upper class buildings may also include higher ceilings, art galleries, new ways for lighting (glowstone hanging from a pillar of fence posts)...etc.
Detailing a City
Bringing architecture into the entire city is not only easy, but it is very effective. There are plenty of small things people don’t always notice directly, but it adds to the entirety of the area. Lamp posts, a common example, aren’t individually noticed, but without them the city looks barren and deserted. In combination with seemingly small details, you can add history to an area.
To expand, one can add architecture and structures that aren’t so common. Roman aqueducts and underground sewers heavily inspire players to explore the corners of your city to see if you added secrets. Combine that with secret rooms, some “easter eggs” and your city will reward players if they look around your creation.
Building with Pistons and Redstone
Redstone can do some interesting things to a city, although more limited to non-historical styles. With the addition of redstone lamps and pistons, there are many more things you could do past the few I mention below.
Have you ever built a large warehouse? You may not know how to make a 3x3 opening door, but try a 2x2 piston door attached to a lever. Or perhaps have hanging lamps you can turn on/off. Of maybe you don’t have a warehouse, but that mansion is missing something. Try having pistons pushing and retracting lamps along the yard; a sort of night light system.
Having a redstone punk world changes lots of things. Automated doors and lights are likely what you’d start with, but dispenser storage, redstone detection systems and traps shouldn’t go unnoticed. And what happens when the main power is cut off inside the massive airship you built? Think you are clever enough to make an emergency lighting system (redstone torches activated when the main lights are not)?
Not to forget the classic hidden doorways stashed around servers. And with the upcoming tripwires, more things become possible.
Building to a Scale
There are a couple ways to build to a scale in Minecraft. The first way is to rebuild something, usually an image or graphic, using blocks (represented in an image by single pixels). This is commonly done through, but not limited to, pixel art. This is easy to accomplish and requires minimal amounts of skill in the game. The second way, however, is much different: it is rebuilding an object in Minecraft using recorded dimensions, images and alike. This requires extensive knowledge on the topic and a large amount of resources to complete. There are many projects where people try and recreate buildings or vehicles in Minecraft (such as the U.S.S. Enterprise or the Titanic). Advanced players will use a hybrid system in which they use given details of an object combined with fitted images to complete their project accurately.
System 1 – The Grid Line Technique
When planning a large project, many people use simple image editing programs (such as MSPaint or Gimp) to make blueprints. This technique is very effective as each pixel in the image becomes a block in Minecraft. However, people often want to recreate stuff from real life, and so it becomes a lot more complicated than building it pixel by pixel. The fix for that is a technique widely used that is based off the Grid Method created by Leonardo Da Vinci (where you would draw grid lines on an artwork and copy the image over square by square). The Grid Line Technique (as I shall call it) is a method of blocking out an image by using squares (so that you can build it in Minecraft square by square).
First you find a reference image to use (make a back-up in case you need to refer to the original). For this example I shall use the older Mojang Logo. Do note I am using Gimp.
Next you create a grid. Gimp carries a useful tool that allows you to configure a grid on the image. This is useful because MSPaint may have the grid option, but it shrinks as you zoom, and I don't have Photoshop to comment on it. To access Gimps grid (for the image) go to "Image>Configure Grid..." and "View>Show Grid" to see it. I have set my grid to 12px X 12px as the image is 200 pixels large.
The last step is to decide what a block is and what isn't, because I guarantee that the image doesn't perfectly fit the grid. The general rule is that if the square has most of the object inside it, you make it a block. If the object is barely/somewhat in the square, blank it out. If it’s 50/50, then make it a block (or half block if it works). Tip: if you use this technique for graphics (as these images were originally intended, not to say this won't work as a statue) then you use the colour at 50% alpha/transparency.
I removed the grid to see the final plan, and this is how it turned out. Now you have a Minecraft friendly image of the Mojang Logo (or whatever you used as an image).
But wait! This isn't building to scale, just remaking buildings in Minecraft. Why did I go over the above despite the section being titled Building to a Scale? Because you need to get your building plan before you can scale it. The task is much easier now that you have the Minecraft friendly plan.
Right now your image is blocks, and if the image is 6 squares wide but the image is supposed to be a house that's 18 blocks wide. Because you just spent awhile making the plans from above, you just want to build it and avoid redoing what you already did. Since the image is in equal blocks, it’s safe to assume you see it with a 1:1 ratio for scale, meaning every block in Minecraft is a grid square on your image. Basic math tells us that 6x3=18, so a 3:1 ratio fixes your problem because 3 blocks in Minecraft equals 1 square in the image.
Let’s change the example so that the image is 18 grid squares in width, and your statue is supposed to be 6 blocks wide. You can reverse the 3:1 ratio so that you get a 1:3 (where every block in Minecraft represents 3 grid squares). Now down-scaling is not optimal as the above Grid Line Technique does just this, and you lose a lot more detail when 1 block means 3 squares.
System 2 – Realistic Scale
Welcome to engineering class, where your simple Minecraft creation becomes a massive project despite being the size of a fishing boat. Using realistic scale is very, very helpful when building massive structures or vehicles (like the Titanic, the U.S.S. Enterprise, or New York). In a nutshell, you gather as much information on the creation in question: dimensions, materials/colours, builders… mostly dimensions.
Minecraft is great for rebuilding things as everything in the game is the same size: 1 meter x 1 meter cubes. Like the gridline technique, you’re converting real dimensions into MC Cubes. I don’t need diagrams or pictures, just know that having a 1.5 kilometer spaceship does not mean a 1.5 kilometer Minecraft creation (unless you want that).
Oh, one last technique: eyeball it. Double check your vision and rebuild the creation just as you see. It might not be scaled or too detailed, but it’s quick and easy to do (although, not easy to do well ).
Versions are changed on the amount changed (so if a new section is added, expect the version to go up, while a few additions to some of the existing sections will just be an update)
V3.0b<br>-This is now in a spoiler and a code tag<br>-Complete revision following the ‘Materials’ section<br>-New ‘Texture Pack’ section<br>-New ‘Building with pistons and redstone’ sub-section<br>-New text<br>-New images<br>-Spelling/Grammar fixes<br><br>V3.0a<br>-Complete revision up to ‘Materials’ section<br>-New ‘Elements and Principles of Block-Building’ section<br>-New ‘Cities, Towns and Villages’ subsection<br>-New images (need more)<br>-Converted final blurb into ‘Final Notes’<br><br>V2.2<br>-A couple spelling fixes<br>-Minor grammar fix<br>-Added more to the building list<br><br>V2.1<br>-Fixed post up for new formatting<br>-Added more to the building list<br>-Minor spelling/grammar edits<br><br>V2.0<br>-Added ‘City Designs’ section<br>-Added ‘Detailing a City’ sub-section under Advanced Architecture<br>-Added more to the buildings list<br>-Image layout changes (added/moved...etc)<br><br>v1.1<br>-Added Change Log<br>-Added more images<br>-Minor text modifications<br><br>v1.0<br>-Public release
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I’m happy to receive comments or criticism of all forms. The only way for this to get batter is with feedback from those who see this and spread it around.
What if you have something to add to this Hints&Tips guide? I’d be glad to receive some more material for this post. Whether it is a new section, a note or two to expand on an existing one, or useful/related screenshots of your own work, I’ll see how I can add it in. Do note that images must be either 800x600px (long) or 600x800px (tall).
Apparently my updates on this thread are quite spread out (think months), but I do try and make any update a big update. I’ll keep this up and going as long as there is a need be for it, so don’t be afraid to bump this thread to post something useful (make sure the mods would approve of it; I am not responsible if you get warned (or worse)).
Oct 17, 2014Personally, I'm a big fan of this mob grinder by TheSmokingKoala.Posted in: Survival Mode
Alternitavely, you could just browse google with the search terms "mobgrinder" and "minecraft" for one that suits you more, but in my opinion this one is the best. The tutorial is very easy to follow.
Sep 5, 2014So you may have heard that as of Java 8 update 20, a bug came to light in Forge which causes a crash at startup. This appears to affect both Minecraft 1.6 and 1.7. Fortunately, later versions of Forge for 1.7.10 correct the issue. But 1.6.4 and 1.7.2 are still affected, as are many versions for 1.7.10 still in use. You could easily just use Java 7, or Java 8 update 11, and not be affected by this bug. But for future-proofing sake, in case someone wants to run Java 8 but a security issue is discovered at some point in the future which makes update 11 not very safe, I decided to just fix Forge.Posted in: Minecraft Mods
Only one file is the problem, so that's all you need:
CoreModManager.class, for Forge #965 for Minecraft 1.6.4.
CoreModManager.class, for Forge #1121 / #1147 for Minecraft 1.7.2
CoreModManager.class, for Forge #1208 for Minecraft 1.7.10
-- Vanilla --
I'm going to assume you already have Forge installed into the vanilla launcher for these instructions.
From here you need to find your way into your libraries directory for Forge. On Windows, the direct route would be:
For 1.6.4: %appdata%\.minecraft\libraries\net\minecraftforge\minecraftforge\220.127.116.115
For 1.7.2: %appdata%\.minecraft\libraries\net\minecraftforge\forge\1.7.2-10.12.2.1147 (or switch 1147 for the version you're using)
For 1.7.10: %appdata%\.minecraft\libraries\net\minecraftforge\forge\1.7.10-10.13.0.1208
If you use Linux then you know your way around your home directory. And if you use OSX, then I'm sure someone else can help you find it, but I imagine that your base Minecraft directory is in your home directory somewhere as well like Linux.
You can make a backup of the JAR if you want at this point. But now open up the JAR in WinRAR or what ever program you use for such things. First, go ahead and delete the META-INF directory in the root of the JAR, or you'll get a crash related to security, just like in the old JAR-modding days. Now navigate your way through cpw/mods/fml/relauncher. You should see a CoreModManager.class in here. Just drop this patched version on top, and you should be good to go!
-- FTB --
This is relatively identical to the above instructions. The only difference is that you have to find the libraries directory inside your FTB directory instead. Then do the same process as above, and this should fix every related pack on the launcher.
-- Technic --
This is a bit different. You need to patch individual modpacks. And every time a pack is updated, you'll probably have to patch it again. But it's not a big deal. For this, first go into your packs directory. For Windows this is: %appdata%\.technic\modpacks
Now go into whichever pack you want to fix. For this example we'll use the main Tekkit. So navigate into tekkitmain, then into bin. You should see a modpack.jar here. This is basically your Forge JAR. Follow the process of above for patching the JAR, of deleting META-INF and adding the class file into the appropriate place, and your pack should now run again.
-- ATLauncher --
Again, this is slightly different, requiring you to fix per-instance like Technic. Go to your ATLauncher directory, then into instances. Find the instance you want to repair, then go into jarmods. You should see the Forge JAR here. So do the above mentioned process to patch the JAR, and the pack should be fixed. Like Technic, updates might break it.
-- MultiMC --
I have no easy fix for this at this time, because it automatically redownloads the Forge JAR after it detects modification, which is both nice and annoying depending on the situation!
-- Servers --
In this case, Forge will already be in the server JAR. You won't want to erase all of META-INF or the server won't launch, just deleting FORGE.DSA is enough according to DAOWAce's post below. Then just copy the class file you downloaded into the appropriate place in the JAR.
-- Misc --
Now for the technical details of what this does, for those interested. Java 8 update 20 changed the way Collections.sort works, no longer cloning a List but modifying it in-place. Since FML is iterating this list at this particular moment, you get the crash. So what this patch does is replace Collections.sort with a wrapper function inside CoreModManager.
It does this:
public static <T> void sort(List<T> list, Comparator<? super T> c)
T toSort = list.toArray((T)new Object[list.size()]);
for (int j = 0; j < toSort.length; j++) list.set(j, toSort[j]);
This is basically a modified version of the same code used to fix later versions of FML, just implemented differently for the sake of a patch.
What I did was compile this bit of code in an otherwise empty class, then used Java Bytecode Editor to extract the bytecode from that class and create the identical method in CoreModManager. Lastly I modified the sortTweakList method to invoke cpw/mods/fml/relauncher/CoreModManager/sort instead of java/util/Collections/sort. You can use JBE to confirm youself that that's the only difference between this patched file and the original if you're concerned at all.
There's a chance that the 1.6.4 patch will work on other versions of Forge for 1.6.x, you would just have to try it and see. The two 1.7.2 builds are the 'latest' and 'recommended' ones, and both had an identical version of CoreModManager, though it might work on earlier builds for that version as well if necessary.
Hope this helps!
Feb 14, 2014guiguilyon posted a message on OptiFine HD (FPS Boost, Dynamic Lights, Shaders and much more)Posted in: Minecraft ModsQuote from DanSparrow
Sadly I can't make this work with Forge. I'm using 1.7.2 latest stable version of it, and now it loads, but I get tons of visual errors inside. That with the 1.7.2 optifine 'cause 1.7.4 obviously won't even load. Bottom half of the chests are invisible, legs, pants and boots are glitchy, cows are shown as 4 legs and nothing else, and some other weird stuff. It mostly works but that errors make it really annoying to play. Too bad D:
Same issue here.
Jan 26, 2014redstonevet90 posted a message on All automation is bad and you should feel bad for spending absolutely any time not mining in Minecraft, even for a few secondsThis is an explanation to those unenlightened ones (the majority of the player base) who actually use exploits and hacks such as redstone and hoppers, which were always intended to be pointless items.Posted in: Recent Updates and Snapshots
All automation is bad because people like me complain and we are all-knowing. I have prayed on this many nights at my Iron Shrine of Notch. I would even sacrifice my first born in Jeb's name in support of this cause. So, allow me to explain why automation is cheating.
I get greedy when I see people with iron. I want what they have. If I find out that it’s farmed iron, I rage because I refuse to build an iron farm of my own. I play Minecraft to dig holes to get more materials, so I can keep digging holes. It's the only way to play.
They ask me, “Why all the rage? Why does it matter if I enjoy building farms? You can still dig holes for iron. We all know how much you enjoy doing that. Besides having extra iron armour sets gives me no advantage whatsoever. It's low-tier armour, plus I can only wear one at a time. You don't build farms, so you have no need for hoppers. Also, iron is extremely common anyway.”
Squinting from all that mining in low light, I tell them that they’re not surviving properly, referencing their nice home and various supplies. I will probably even call them a cheater. Confused they ask me, "What does my home have to do with iron? It's built out of stone, wood, and brick."
Then in a jealous rage I tell them that building farms shouldn't be allowed, otherwise it's unfair. I rage while throwing around terms like "hacker" and "exploit." I still don’t know what those words mean.
But, all the while I’m thinking, “That guy has more stacks of iron than I have."
EDIT: I just I found out about the new automatic villager farms where the villagers replant and harvest crops automatically. It made the blood shoot out of my eyes! I haven't slept, or eaten since I watched that tutorial! To think that players would have the nerve to use the mechanics that the Devs created to play the game is just absurd!
When someone comes up with a new iron farm design I'll need to be sedated!
Jan 26, 2014BC_Programming posted a message on All automation is bad and you should feel bad for spending absolutely any time not mining in Minecraft, even for a few secondsPosted in: Recent Updates and SnapshotsQuote from Spade285
Minecraft was intended to be a Sandbox game that encompasses the idea that you can do WHAT EVER YOU WANT
Sep 8, 2013Gamer_of_the_Future posted a message on 1.7 Redstone Help (Only Command Blocks At the moment but has DataTags already)!Posted in: Recent Updates and SnapshotsI assume most of you are confused as to the NBT Format for /summon and /give! I was also confused so, I gathered info and made a short little map.This map explains the BASIC Format and how to do basic stuff, look in the command blocks to figure out what the command is!This Map Includes:Riding
Changing Falling Sand IDDownload Link(First-Newest,Last-Oldest):New updates!v2.0 includes:Custom VillagersSpawnersSpawning a Structure using Many Command Blocksv1.3 includes:/tellraw/testforblock/setblockCustom PotionsCommand Block Tutorial:This Map Includes:
Basic Command Block commands and funcionalityDownload Link(First-Newest,Last-Oldest):
Sep 28, 2013Ha. Foolish mortal fool.Posted in: Recent Updates and Snapshots
If you really think this thread is gonna stop people from complaining, it isn’t.
I’ve also never heard somebody compare snapshots to “mini-updates”. I don’t even know what a “mini-update” is. If it has “update” in there somewhere, it’s an update, not a “mini-update”.
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