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Dude, these results are old news. How has nobody hear been to the annual wither slap salmon run before?

Im disappointed.

Q. Is this a reference to Monty Pythons Holy Grail? Knights who say Ni? Cut down a tree... With a herring!!!

And honestly, how many times have you used leather, gold or even chain armour pvping? This would be awesome.

Could gold armour potentially have more of a buff in some way here? Given that one hit can damage your gold armour to the point of no return, this sneak thing could pump it up?

A white Christmas? Never experienced that. Don't forget us Southern Hemisphere legends.

What about the old Aussie Christmas season?

You can't walk on cobble, stone or dark blocks without lighting on fire

Having iron in your inventory or any iron/metal block ie hoppers, iron blocks, cause both fire damage on contact and light other things on fire!

Spiders and cockroaches quadruple in spawn rate and size

In all seriousness, I like the idea. But I think this would work best as an option, toggle able at world generation. This will allow regular play aswell as enhanced seasons.

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that doesnt make sense to me, if gold apples are op and gold farms are op the comunity can regulate them in the servers where they are a problem, that is what has been happening on minecraft since the game was in alpha. in single player, you can play with an extra ruleset that prevents you from abusing the op mechanics if you dont want to abuse them, for example, the solution to gold farms being op is to not use one if you dont want them. the same for notch apples, if they are to op for you then dont craft them and you are good to go. but there are people that want these things and i dont see why they have to stop them from having their fun.

for example, i remenber that when 1.5 came, hoppers were banned in a lot of skyblock type servers, because of lag and op-ness. the same could happen on the servers on 1.9, if notch apples are op then you ban notch apples in the server, and if gold farms are op then you change the pigmen to only being able to drop gold if killed by a player or something like that and everything would be fine. you can also set a command that kills any player that is located beyond Y130 when they are in the nether and you kill gold farms in that server. a good addition to 1.9 would be a set of commands that lets players disable crafting recipes at will, that way everyone could regulate the game, instead of forcing a specific regulation.

right now we have a give command, if they add a "craftable" command that works in the same way (/craftable minecraft:golden_apple false) they could make all the comunity happy.

Who doesn't love biomes? Minecraft has a good variety of them, and I enjoy being creative... So here's my idea!

Scorched Forest

Overworld OR Potential nether biome (CriticalPrime9)

The scorched forest is a new biome that spawns as often as a Mesa, so it is decently rare but is also as spectacular. These forests consist of charred oak trees but without leaves. These trees would be new generated style of oak,math the branches growing upwards and random, and of course without leaves. In order to get saplings, you have to dig up ash with a 1/20 chance of getting a charred oak sapling. Charred oak is a slight grey in colour with the centre being a darker shade of brown. The plank version and fence/fence gate versions are the grey colour.

Charred oak is fire resistant and will not burn, but will spread fire.

The grass colour and foliage shade is a dark shade, dark like soul sand. On top of this dirt floor would be a new 1/8 block called 'soot' or 'ash'. This ash can only be picked up by either a shovel, with a 1/15 chance of yielding 1 ash, or broken by silk touch to receive the block. It is essentially a black/grey snow layer that spawns naturally in the biome but not as abundant and drops ash instead of snowballs. Ash stacks to 64, unlike snowballs. Placing 9 ash in a crafting grid will craft 1 charcoal.

Scorched forests have naturally spawning fire that doesn't burn the charred oak. This fire is newly generated, spawned like mobs where it spawns in a 128 block radius of the player but no closer than 24. Spontaneous combustion is a slight problem in some cases. It's a hostile environment.

In this biome, many flowers grow in the burnt soil.

I'll accept any critiscism and after all, I had fun thinking of this

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I agree that minecraft is in need of more biomes, and blocks... (1.10 The building update (PLS)) However, I think they should focus on adding biomes to the NETHER, in 1.7 we got new overworld terrain/generation, in 1.9 we got new end terrain/generation, so I think its past time that the nether got its overhaul. However, some of the suggestions here would make a great addition to the nether. So, I guess that would be considered partial support? Great idea!

OP and have you heard of the Elytra? Allows Gliding and goes in the chest slot.

and as many will say, any form of flight that allows you to gain altitude is massively OP

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Name all of newtons laws for me please. see if you know them all. what i meant was its just common physics. everyone whos over at least 13 should know that simple rule. plus, i have a flying license so im pretty sure i know how a plain works no offense, just dont hate.

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so basically the people that want the notch apple to stay uncraftable want that because they either think that is was too op for the game or to easy to obtain right? well you can always not use it is that is the case, if you do regularly pvp and notch apples are such a disbalance on these games fear not, the administrators of those sites or you if you are the administratos can always ban their use and problem solved. that is the right thing to do, is what this game has been about really, if you dont want something is perfectly ok, but there are other people that maybe want it, so when in doubt, leave everything in the game and people will regulate themselves.

i for example have never really tinkered a lots with rails and stuff, but that doesnt mean that is they remove the hopper minecart recipe in the next update im going to be ok with it, maybe i am not really affected by that, but there are going to be people that actually use that thing.

if you want another example, i usually play with the natural regeneration off, the game is too easy for me otherwise, but i would never aprove of he natural regeneration to be out of the game, what i want is a command that lets everyone play the way they want to play.

this notch apple issue is not being done well, is ok to have them as dungeon loot, but removing the crafting recipe from an item that has been there since 2012 is not a good thing, adding the recipe was actually a feature that 1.3 added, removing it now in 1.9 is ilogical.

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Most people made gold farms in the nether. None of the changes make sense, they nerf everything thats fun about Minecraft then watch as people either get enraged or don't care and accept the coming fate.

I think our posts kinda' crossed over. I did not see your reply to my first posts when I made my second one.

A flushing farm is better then a walk-off-the-edge farm (like mine) so what you are planning should work (I have not seen any of the farms you mentioned)

As far as an up-in-the-sky AFK platform, it will work better then AFKing where you were planning. You just have to be careful to keep both farms in range while avoiding as many caves as possible. You may have to light a few, but not as many as if you were at y35. You can then light up the rest as time goes by. It will take a long time, but it is possible to do. I did it in my old base.

And about the drop rate thing someone else mentioned in your other thread. You may get a reduced drop rate on one type of mob, but overall, I don't think it will be too bad. You just have to wait a little longer to accumulate drops, You could also add off switches to your farm, to increase drops from whatever spawner you want. If building a combined farm affect drops rates (I am not certain of the claim). At least your farm will be different (unique) from everybody else's. And it's your idea. Go with it. Don't let someone else goad you into following the masses. I love my farm because it's mine. My idea, my build, my problems. At least it's not like everyone else's.

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Derman your new avatar threw me off until I saw the pics and realized those builds looked like your style.

Sorry dude. Let me know when you've got used to my new avatar, then i'll change it again

D_Jolls18 - in the end I AFK waited near my iron farm for two half hour sessions, and I average 75-100 iron ingots per hour. My farm does have 23 villagers which means it has a two golem spawn cap, and although this happens rarely, I do sometimes get a second golem spawn whilst the first is still in the farm, although on the odd occasion the farm has been jammed because the two golems reached the drop chute at the same time and stopped each other from descending (If I had my time again, I'd make the chute 3x3/the farm 17x17 so this wouldn't happen). So that hourly rate may be 5-10% higher than a single golem spawn cap farm ...

You can also build a duplicate farm (minus the chute/sorting) directly above the first farm, a certain number of blocks (I forget how many) so they don't merge, and have the golems drop thru the hole and get processed in the lower farm. It does mean cosmetically it might be a pain, but you would have 4 spawning pads instead of 2 ...

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few questions regarding iron farms I would like to know (no hate please)

How big is the spawn chunks area?

How would one efficiently get enough villagers and get them into the pocket of sorts?

What golem farm is easy to build but has balanced rates (I don't want more iron than I would ever need, like an iron titan but not 5 iron an hour sort of stuff)

Creative decoration for an iron golem farm?

They are pretty ugly tbh and it being in the spawn chunks? Blairgowrie

Q: How big is the spawn chunks area?

A: It's 12x12 chunks*, or 96 blocks in every direction from the center of your spawn chunks.

*: Technically it's 16x16 chunks, but 12x12 is the area you want to build farms and machines in.

Q: How would one efficiently get enough villagers and get them into the pocket of sorts?

A: I built portals into my villager pods and then just pushed them in from the Nether (removed the portals after, of course).

I have a Nether hub, which is a series of tunnels leading to portals at key locations, including the village I kidnapped the villagers from. It was pretty simple to push a villager into a portal near the village, then down a tunnel (hint, hold shift/sneak and you can push continuously) and through a portal at the other end. That last portal was positioned to link to the portals in the farm pods (moved as needed).

I also made my pods farms so that I only needed 2 villagers per pod and they'd feed themselves and breed unattended. As for how I got enough villagers, I found a village and then expanded on it by adding lots of doors and buildings and let the villagers breed.

Q: What golem farm is easy to build but has balanced rates (I don't want more iron than I would ever need, like an iron titan but not 5 iron an hour sort of stuff)?
A: The simplest farms are the best if you want something that will not break every few updates. If you want more iron, stack them.

I updated an old design by jl2579 and docm77 to be simpler and more 1.7+ friendly. The farm uses dual 18x18 spawn platforms, which covers the maximum 16x16x6 area (with an extra row around the edge) and a 2x2 drop in the center. The original design used 4 villager pods, but I only used 2 since at least half the doors are in range of each pod. I also turned the pods into farms so that the villagers could feed themselves and breed without my interaction. Each villager pod has a 4x3 dirt floor encased in glass which I till and plant with carrots. With 48 doors each pod will breed 7 to 10 villagers, which is more than enough for golem spawning.

A single farm of this design will produce an average of around 1 iron golem every 6 minutes (10 per hour) with a yield of roughly 40-50 iron ingots/hour. To improve upon that, I stacked additional spawners one above the other. There is enough room to stack 3 such spawners while remaining under the build limit. I also built 2 towers for a total of 6 golem spawners, then added a Redstone Jazz style gold farm as well.

This is about as simple as it gets for a decent yield of iron. There is no redstone involved, and no bugs, mods or exploits required. It follows the basic rules of village mechanics and golem spawning so it's unlikely to break in the future. I did use redstone for the sorting system, but that's completely optional.

If the centers of two villages are at least 66 blocks they shouldn't merge. Why not make it an even 70.

http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Village

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Wowowowow

ive seen your world on a thread somewhere and holy moly I'm impressed!

How much iron does yours bring in (rough estimate) if you don't mind telling me

Very very impressive. Thanks for the info, I'll surely try and get a 16x16 going

On a side note, how did YOU clear out your ocean monument water in your avatar image?

Thanks!

Its difficult to guess even a rough estimate of the iron rate as i've never really measured it, my farm has enough doors to spawn a max of two golems at anyone time (although the golem cap is rarely reached as no golem stays in the farm for more than a few seconds). I'll try a test tonight where i'll stay by the farm for a minecraft day & night and see how much iron i get.

lol, as for the ocean monument ... well, i had a friend help me a few times (we are currently doing a second one close by) and we used mainly sand, dropped in in rings from the outside inwards, obviously a lot of sand needed, but we had a desert nearby. And obvs with each ring, you can mine an outer ring away once you've done an inner ring and re-use the sand. Part of the way thru the water clearance, i started using this machine ...

(we had divided the remaning water into sections) which although is a bit cumbersome and requires a bit of care in use, actually worked quite well, just a pain in the ass to keep dismantling and rebuilding for the next section, plus you couldnt go right to the edge on either side as the machine would jam if the slime blocks contacted any other block apart from those on the machine. I changed the profile from 5x2 to 3x3 blocks so it took away 3 levels of water each pass, and it worked quite well, although when you dismantled it, you often had to retrieve dropped bits of it from the guardian infested water which was a pain. So using it, managed to lower some sections by quite a few blocks, and we finished off with dropped sand again. I also set up a temporary 4-way beacon with appropriate powers enabled to help with mining speed and movement and we both had the best enchanted spades and helmets/boots for optimum efficiency, however the damn guardians are a pain, and their thorn damage does deplete your armour wear faster, so we did a lot of repairing! Still took ages tho!

I built the NimsTut one and it worked fine for my by myself in my single player world.

I eventually built another one directly above it and it doubled the yield, as you would expect.

easy to build and decent pay off

I originally started with the NIMS one ...

... which is quite simple to build (but inefficient with 10x10 spawn pads) so I extended the pads to take advantage of the full golem spawning area (16x16) which will require more water and a village pod on two opposite sides - there are a few on youtube which have done this and you should be able to find them easily enough.

Getting villagers into the pods can be quite tricky, a temp rail system is usually the only good way, however its easier to lure a zombie villager to the pods and cure him, section him off and lure a second one, cure him, then allow them to mingle and breed (and by throwing them food if your playing 1.8+).

I dont know about spawn chunks much, but i assume they are full depth/height of the map, so you could build the farm just underground (using glass or some other transparent blocks above the farm doors on the outside so light can get thru and they will be accepted as valid houses.). Mine is not in the spawn chunks, but it is embedded in the side of a small hill and circular on the outside to match the rest of my base layout. It depends on how much you want to do with it ...

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Thanks!

i took a look at sliders and chocapic and sliders drops my fps down to 19 on lite but chocas drops me down to just 30 on lite. so is choices lower quality?

Problems:

Im using choices lite version because the medium version says Error: invalid program composite1 and the screen is black.

also, in chocas lite, my inventory items look drowned out and overexposed swell as the armour durability not showing.

any ideas on how to fix it?

Not exactly lower quality, just does things different and (yes) sacrifices quality where it isn't entirely needed. SEUS has a fairly high shadow resolution (2048 for 10.1 Standard) with no filtering, so while you have fairly accurate shadows, there's a lot of pixelation and jagged edges on the shadow. Chocapic13's drops that to 512 and uses shadow filtering, so while it's not 100% accurate, it still looks smoother than SEUS's. That drop in resolution improves performance quite a bit.

The black screen is an issue you can't fix and is caused by the fact that you're on a Mac, high-end packs have issues with Mac as Apple has broken OpenGL support. Your other issue, not sure of. Do keep in mind shaders are more so designed to look pretty, they're not exactly designed to play survival using.

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I'm running on a Mac and I've installed shadersmod. What is the best shader for a Mac?

also, I ran a shader and I had about 20 fps. Is there any setting to potentially bring that number up so it runs smoothly? I didn't want to mess with settings I don't know.

Because you're on a Mac, immediate nope for pretty much all SEUS packs. SEUS does not play nice with Macs.

Otherwise, what graphics card you got? If a decently powered one, you can give high end packs a try like KUDA or Chocapic, or if you have an underpowered but dedicated one you can try lower end packs like Sildur's, Paeleo's Lagless or the lite variants of both KUDA and Chocapic. And for your other question, apart from lowering in-game video settings, not really.

Shaders are inherently intensive for your computer to process, especially considering Minecraft is not designed to run them. SEUS, which is the standard pack for benchmarking and possibly the most technologically advanced pack available (having several features other packs don't, and being authored by a professional graphics programmer who has worked in the industry on games before and is an official, professional Unity workshop author), has been compared to Battlefield 4 on Ultra in terms of graphical intensiveness.