What are the computer specs running the server. The behavior you describe sounds like Minecraft is not able to compute all of the player actions. If my server is bogged down, I have a hard time punching dirt, but using a shovel can work a little better sometimes.
When you use the correct tool however, it lowers the time it takes to "mine" a block, effectively created an easier load for the server to manage. It's possible that your server is sitting on the edge of being able to handle requests of block breaking/placement, but unable to do so for a longer request, when a player is punching dirt.
Does mining obsidian with a diamond pick give you any difficulties?
On my forwarding settings, it says it's forwarding both. And you forward the ports to the hosts local IP (internal)?
I can see your actual IP, meaning I'm getting to your router, and you've said your router is forwarding port 43962 to the correct computer (yes, the correct local/internal IP address)
Could any firewalls be blocking the connection?
You've already said you disabled them all, however certain programs behave differently.
Maybe list what firewalls you have installed currently
If all else fails, there is the megathread about port forwarding. Maybe trying to restart the process will help you find a number you accidentally mis-typed.
Also... recheck the port checker you used... We shouldn't be getting conflicting results.
Hmmmmmm... if you want to do that... a proxy will serve you a lot better than doing what you are trying to do... Running a Minecraft server on a really common port is not recommended. These common ports all have certain privileges associated with them, forcing root level privileges. If you managed to set up port 80 to forward another port internally (using an internal IpTunnel), then you'd have the issue that the server now has elevated privileges. While not an immediate risk, if Minecraft were to be compromised, you'd always have that risk of an outside attack achieving control over the server.
A much much safer solution is a proxy. This technique is a common one to get around a firewall/port block, by using a common port (like 80) to reach another computer, then asking that computer to get to 25565.
Port 80 is heavily used... maybe reconsider using port 80 for Minecraft, but it sounds like you've got a wild and crazy idea behind the scenes... so lets go from here.
What OS...
Windows?
Linux? (if so, what distribution)
If your current port in the sever.properties is set correctly, then make sure you are forwarding both TCP and UDP ports to the right IP... If you've only forwarded one of the two, that might cause an issue.
Also, double check you're forwarding to the same address that is running the Minecraft server... It's a simple thing to miss.
There's a good chance that restarting your computer caused your Router to DHCP again, changing your internal-IP to a different number.
If you're on windows, Open command prompt Windows XP
Start->Run->Type "cmd"->ENTER Windows Vista or newer
Start->Type "cmd" in the search bar->ENTER In command prompt, type:
ipconfig
What is your IPv4 Address? It may be different than the one the router is forwarding to. Make sure these match first.
I see that you are running through port 43962... This is not the default port that Minecraft usually runs through. It should be fine though, make sure the server properties match up with EVERYTHING you have said so far.
Is the port set in the server properties?
#Minecraft server properties
#Mon Jan 14 16:39:26 EST 2013
generator-settings=
allow-nether=true
level-name=world
enable-query=false
allow-flight=false
server-port=25565
level-type=DEFAULT
By default, the server will think it's running on 25565, if you've set everything else to run 43962, then set
Check underneath the router for a sticker. Routers usually have the default password printed somewhere on it.
I would agree though... resetting the router to simply get in it is not a good idea. If you can't find it, Google the router's name with the phrase "default login"
Exe: Linksys Wireless G router default login
If that fails, is there someone in the household who would know what the router's login is? My father from time to time will change something and not tell me, so I have to ask him what he changed the password to.
There are no recommended methods to recover a lost router password other than resetting it. (This is one step short of hacking)
Try to exhaust all other options before you reset it.
I do not think it is possible to "refind" the server's old seed. You would need to find a backup of the server's world folder, and since you don't have one, then were barking up the wrong tree here...
Secondly, whenever Minecraft updates, there is a chance that your Minecraft world will develop world scars Even if the seed is still the same. If Minecraft adds a new block, or they change how a biome is formed, the server actually interprets the seed differently. For example, if I take a number "123" and add 5 to it, then we obviously have the number 128. The "123" represents your seed, the server "processes it" and adds five to get "128". If the server updated/changed in any way, say it subtracts 6 instead, then the same seed generates a different world: "117".
Alright... now the world scars problem. Don't do anything to hasty quite yet. Minecraft is slated to update soon, so if you spent a great deal of time removing your world scars, then it's possible you'll finish only to have the problem happen again soon. Once the update rolls around, consider using VoxelSniper or McEdit. Both programs take some getting used to, but allow complex world editing. If you sat down for a while, you could probably get rid of the large scars, and leave the rest for a couple of admins/creative mode players. Watch a couple of Youtube videos to get yourself familiar with how to use these programs.
I myself Use McEdit on occasion.
Best of luck to you!
-Ps: Make backups, you'll never know when you'll need one-
When you port forward, you allow the router to send your computer data. Only the computer that is configured in the port forwarding configuration can get this data. The problem is, that if someone found a vulnerability in the server that allowed the hacker access to a shell of some kind, they could use that computer to attempt to retrieve data from the network. The computer that is port forward would be at the same risk . The likelihood of something like this happening is a billion to one, there currently are no known vulnerabilities in either Java or Minecraft that would allow something of this nature to take place. The only way to remove the risk of this potentially happening, would be to totally separate the two computers from the same network.
I wish to clarify this, because what Syfaro was was exactly correct, however he used some technical language that can be hard to understand sometimes.
If nothing is set up, (meaning no Hamachi and no port forwarding) your router is still there. If I am looking in the internet, and I get your Ip address, then I can see your router... but because the router isn't dealing with port forwarding, and Hamachi is not set up, then anything I do will probably be ignored by your router... It won't do anything if you don't tell it. You are still prone to things you click and download, but any virus's/hackers that try to get in will have to go through someone on your network, such as "click this link to download this thing". Basically, if the router is not configured, then the risk of you not knowing you are being hacked is close to zero.
If you of course download a virus and ran it, then you're still at that risk, but you'll probably figure out what happened at that point. Lets see if it's any more dangerous to port forward, or run Hamachi instead.
Port Forwarding:
If you do tell your router to port forward, then when I run communications through your Ip address, your router actually takes notice. It asks: Is this a piece of information for Minecraft (labeled port 25565 TCP/UDP)? If I send your IP some information for Minecraft, then your router will notice. (Oh hey, that guy has some stuff labeled 25565... I better move that.)
Now it will ONLY move that stuff to the computer you told it too. Your server will see: "hey, some guy said something using 25655, lets move it to that laptop around here..." Meaning if I send any data, and I tell your router that it's along 25565, it will eventually end up at the Minecraft server.
What is the worry then? Because the router is only looking at 25565, it doesn't really care what data is actually being sent... It just knows that the data has the number 25565 and that any data like that needs to go to the server.
So is there a risk? Actually... No. Even if I was trying to attack/hack your home network through your Minecraft server, my only course of action was to send information along 25565 directly to Minecraft. Basically, I'm talking to a program that runs Minecraft. Can I do anything? Sure... I can play Minecraft, because that's what the server expects me to do... If I send an attack, or try to send anything except Minecraft data, it will most likely ignore me, or send me a response back telling me I'm not sending the right data to play Minecraft.
The only loophole in this example is if Minecraft was broken in some way. If there was a way for me to send requests to your Minecraft server, and have it do something unexpected then I might be able to do something harmful. But remember, I can only send it data along 25565, and that data gets sent directly to your Minecraft server. If I could somehow ask the Minecraft server to download a virus and install it for me, then you would be at risk. But the Minecraft server is secure enough that this cannot happen.
Hamachi:
Hamachi is actually a less secure connection. A connection like Hamachi can in effect, place my computer In your home network. While it still isn't a walk in the park, the possibility that your home network could be compromised is significantly increased. This is because I'm first placing myself in your home network, then choosing to talk to Minecraft myself. The router has no control anymore. I could join the Hamachi network, and try and talk to the other computers on the home network instead of playing Minecraft. (There are still a couple of security walls that's I'd have to get through, but with enough time and computer power, they could be broken)
Conclusion:
You are always putting yourself at a slightly greater risk when you open up something to the internet, however when Minecraft is concerned, the risk is easy to manage.
If you are port forwarding, then there is not much worry about:
1. Information I send goes to your router
2. The router looks at the port I'm using (It better be 25565, or it ignores it)
3. The router moves my information directly to the server
4. The Minecraft server will take that information and either ignore it, or try to process it if it's for minecraft.
This solution leaves me feeling safe and comfortable
If you are running Hamachi, then I would actually have a couple of worries:
1. Any computer that connects to Hamachi now acts like someone connected another desktop computer in your home.
2. If that computer wanted to play Minecraft, they could do so, but they don't have to. Remember the router isn't in control here, so the person sending information doesn't exactly have to use port 25565 and they can talk to other computers other than the Minecraft server
You should still respect your Mother's decision, however from a technical standpoint, any data on her computer is quite safe. To testify, I've been running a Minecraft server for about 3 years now and have no complaints or worries yet.
Edit: My home network is port forwarding Port 25565 to the server.
I noticed that you had to convert the world from an older filetype... When you try to restart the server, does it still run through the conversion process every time?
There is quite some confusion here... The person you were talking to appears to be trying to get you to login to your networks router. Once you can log into a router, then you can set up what is known as port forwarding. Basically, it allows people from the internet to find your router's IP and then the router will "forward" those requests towards the computer that is the "minecraft" server. Could you post more details as to what other problems are occuring.
If you can't login to the router, it's quite possibe that someone in your house changed it's password. Normally, the default passwords are pretty insecure, so changing them from "admin" "password" to something else is a really good idea... especially if you are going to try and host a server in the meantime.
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- Save everything and stop your server
- Navigate where your server has saved it's files, world, and such
- If you are on a Windows OS, find the file called "server.properties"
- Right click->select edit
If this option does not appear, select "open with" and open the file with a program called "notepad"
- Find the option
and change it to
- Save and close
- Start the server up again
If you have any more questions about the server.properties file, read this.1
Enter in the address your friends are suppose to type in, as well as the port number you forwarded to get the results.
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When you use the correct tool however, it lowers the time it takes to "mine" a block, effectively created an easier load for the server to manage. It's possible that your server is sitting on the edge of being able to handle requests of block breaking/placement, but unable to do so for a longer request, when a player is punching dirt.
Does mining obsidian with a diamond pick give you any difficulties?
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I can see your actual IP, meaning I'm getting to your router, and you've said your router is forwarding port 43962 to the correct computer (yes, the correct local/internal IP address)
But this port checker seems to think otherwise
Could any firewalls be blocking the connection?
You've already said you disabled them all, however certain programs behave differently.
Maybe list what firewalls you have installed currently
If all else fails, there is the megathread about port forwarding. Maybe trying to restart the process will help you find a number you accidentally mis-typed.
Also... recheck the port checker you used... We shouldn't be getting conflicting results.
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A much much safer solution is a proxy. This technique is a common one to get around a firewall/port block, by using a common port (like 80) to reach another computer, then asking that computer to get to 25565.
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What OS...
Windows?
Linux? (if so, what distribution)
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Also, double check you're forwarding to the same address that is running the Minecraft server... It's a simple thing to miss.
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If you're on windows,
Open command prompt
Windows XP
Start->Run->Type "cmd"->ENTER
Windows Vista or newer
Start->Type "cmd" in the search bar->ENTER
In command prompt, type:
What is your IPv4 Address? It may be different than the one the router is forwarding to. Make sure these match first.
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Is the port set in the server properties?
By default, the server will think it's running on 25565, if you've set everything else to run 43962, then set
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I would agree though... resetting the router to simply get in it is not a good idea. If you can't find it, Google the router's name with the phrase "default login"
Exe: Linksys Wireless G router default login
If that fails, is there someone in the household who would know what the router's login is? My father from time to time will change something and not tell me, so I have to ask him what he changed the password to.
There are no recommended methods to recover a lost router password other than resetting it. (This is one step short of hacking)
Try to exhaust all other options before you reset it.
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You should probably check your old threads before re-posting on the same topic.
Go ahead and reply to what I send you earlier.
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1645968-need-host-help/
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Secondly, whenever Minecraft updates, there is a chance that your Minecraft world will develop world scars Even if the seed is still the same. If Minecraft adds a new block, or they change how a biome is formed, the server actually interprets the seed differently. For example, if I take a number "123" and add 5 to it, then we obviously have the number 128. The "123" represents your seed, the server "processes it" and adds five to get "128". If the server updated/changed in any way, say it subtracts 6 instead, then the same seed generates a different world: "117".
Alright... now the world scars problem. Don't do anything to hasty quite yet. Minecraft is slated to update soon, so if you spent a great deal of time removing your world scars, then it's possible you'll finish only to have the problem happen again soon. Once the update rolls around, consider using VoxelSniper or McEdit. Both programs take some getting used to, but allow complex world editing. If you sat down for a while, you could probably get rid of the large scars, and leave the rest for a couple of admins/creative mode players. Watch a couple of Youtube videos to get yourself familiar with how to use these programs.
I myself Use McEdit on occasion.
Best of luck to you!
-Ps: Make backups, you'll never know when you'll need one-
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I wish to clarify this, because what Syfaro was was exactly correct, however he used some technical language that can be hard to understand sometimes.
If nothing is set up, (meaning no Hamachi and no port forwarding) your router is still there. If I am looking in the internet, and I get your Ip address, then I can see your router... but because the router isn't dealing with port forwarding, and Hamachi is not set up, then anything I do will probably be ignored by your router... It won't do anything if you don't tell it. You are still prone to things you click and download, but any virus's/hackers that try to get in will have to go through someone on your network, such as "click this link to download this thing". Basically, if the router is not configured, then the risk of you not knowing you are being hacked is close to zero.
If you of course download a virus and ran it, then you're still at that risk, but you'll probably figure out what happened at that point. Lets see if it's any more dangerous to port forward, or run Hamachi instead.
Port Forwarding:
If you do tell your router to port forward, then when I run communications through your Ip address, your router actually takes notice. It asks: Is this a piece of information for Minecraft (labeled port 25565 TCP/UDP)? If I send your IP some information for Minecraft, then your router will notice. (Oh hey, that guy has some stuff labeled 25565... I better move that.)
Now it will ONLY move that stuff to the computer you told it too. Your server will see: "hey, some guy said something using 25655, lets move it to that laptop around here..." Meaning if I send any data, and I tell your router that it's along 25565, it will eventually end up at the Minecraft server.
What is the worry then? Because the router is only looking at 25565, it doesn't really care what data is actually being sent... It just knows that the data has the number 25565 and that any data like that needs to go to the server.
So is there a risk? Actually... No. Even if I was trying to attack/hack your home network through your Minecraft server, my only course of action was to send information along 25565 directly to Minecraft. Basically, I'm talking to a program that runs Minecraft. Can I do anything? Sure... I can play Minecraft, because that's what the server expects me to do... If I send an attack, or try to send anything except Minecraft data, it will most likely ignore me, or send me a response back telling me I'm not sending the right data to play Minecraft.
The only loophole in this example is if Minecraft was broken in some way. If there was a way for me to send requests to your Minecraft server, and have it do something unexpected then I might be able to do something harmful. But remember, I can only send it data along 25565, and that data gets sent directly to your Minecraft server. If I could somehow ask the Minecraft server to download a virus and install it for me, then you would be at risk. But the Minecraft server is secure enough that this cannot happen.
Hamachi:
Hamachi is actually a less secure connection. A connection like Hamachi can in effect, place my computer In your home network. While it still isn't a walk in the park, the possibility that your home network could be compromised is significantly increased. This is because I'm first placing myself in your home network, then choosing to talk to Minecraft myself. The router has no control anymore. I could join the Hamachi network, and try and talk to the other computers on the home network instead of playing Minecraft. (There are still a couple of security walls that's I'd have to get through, but with enough time and computer power, they could be broken)
Conclusion:
You are always putting yourself at a slightly greater risk when you open up something to the internet, however when Minecraft is concerned, the risk is easy to manage.
If you are port forwarding, then there is not much worry about:
This solution leaves me feeling safe and comfortable
If you are running Hamachi, then I would actually have a couple of worries:
You should still respect your Mother's decision, however from a technical standpoint, any data on her computer is quite safe. To testify, I've been running a Minecraft server for about 3 years now and have no complaints or worries yet.
Edit: My home network is port forwarding Port 25565 to the server.
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If you can't login to the router, it's quite possibe that someone in your house changed it's password. Normally, the default passwords are pretty insecure, so changing them from "admin" "password" to something else is a really good idea... especially if you are going to try and host a server in the meantime.