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Quote from Lord_Garak»

We add what fits in the developer's vision and possibly the communities' standards.

Quote from Lord_Garak»

Being unnecessary doesn't make them bad.

Quote from Lord_Garak»

Physics are necessary. Controls are necessary. Mob AI is necessary.

Should we never add anything else? And if not, what is worth adding and what is not? What are your standards? Are they consistent? If not, why should anyone listen to you?

Quote from SamsterBirdies»

I hate the new updates. All they do is make unnecessary changes just so their boss thinks they are doing work and can get their paycheck.

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Quote from bobotheboss111111»

I feel like this is slowly sort've happening. But only sort've. Let me explain (before you attempt to roast me).

The game is in a crucial moving stage of its community. 5 years ago, the community was maybe 1/2 people under the age of 10. And 1/2 people over 10. I get that these aren't statistics, but just keep reading. As time has gone on, more and more people from the over 10 demographic have been leaving, and more and more people under 10 have been taking their place. For the servers, this really isn't a massive difference. Newbs playing on their server and buying ranks are the same as pros doing it. For communities like this one however, it has been very bad. Because the newbs don't go straight to the forum, because they want to play more, and discuss less. And the more experienced older players leaving, are the ones on this forum site! What we need is either enough people to cling on, or the newbs to start coming onto the forums and learning. Just my theory.

That's unfortunate.

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It's definitely disturbing.

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The endgame for me is the point where I could feasibly do whatever I want, where all previous restrictions are gone. A cycle begins in which I choose a project, collect resources, build it, and then start a new project all over again.

This period is usually after:

-At least one of every possible kind of block is collected.

-My armor and tools are enchanted just the way I like them.

-My base of operations is more-or-less complete.

D.

Quote from Is2005»

I talked about my own empirical experience. I've seen friends try to change to the newest versions and realize they were way heavier than the old ones. I have people with whom I'm close where I could see those issues manifest first-hand. I'm not a professional coder either, but I have classes in school so I know just enough to be able to recognize an elegant design as opposed to a complicated one. Minecraft code is becoming more and more complicated, and without any real advantage. The whole JSON thing, for example, is kind of weird. JSON is meant mainly for data transmission, not as config/database format. Minecraft was never a master piece of coding, and what they are doing now is to build on top of what was a very simple engine, adding implementation of modern coding patterns to it.

This is what I see. I have no way (and nobody does) of providing you with proof. You don't want to believe me, that's 100% fine, I salute you, and we go our separate ways. Don't try to discredit my words by claiming I don't support them with statistics, because it makes you look like a person who just recently discovered critical thinking and wants to show off to the world.

But for your benefit, I'll be testing Minecraft version performances in the near future, and I'll present the results I obtain here, just to be told my testing strategy was wrong.

Okay that's kinda funny.

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Quote from Is2005»

I don't think so, do you want me to provide you the statistics or would you rather go take a look for yourself, cause I don't think any peer-reviewed studies have ever been made on this. So If I went to all the trouble to compile a bunch of statistics, would you then believe me? I could use a flawed methodology to skew the result to prove my hypothesis, right? So if you don't believe me now, I assume any statistics I can gather myself would also be of little help to the credibility of what I'm saying... right? So, unless you find an independent study on this, which, I'm not gonna raise your hopes, I don't believe even Mojang has the statistics you're demanding. You know, it's cool and all to be objective and to look for hard proof (or, in your case, statistical proof, which is considered to be the same as nothing by many), but sometimes, specially in a thread about Minecraft, you have to admit asking for statistics just sound pedantic, pseudo-intellectual and extremely silly. Do like I did, and go see for yourself.

I'd take a look myself, but I don't see anything to look at. The loudest voices are the ones I see, and they're all shouting different things with a sense of superiority. What should I be looking at? The hundred pages of people complaining for reasons that are purely emotional? FPS info which varies for everyone, even two people with the exact same computer, for no discernible reason? Mojang, who made the updates? The Optifine guys, who complain about it? Perhaps I should look at the code itself... except oh wait, I'm not a programmer. I could understand the context of Minecraft's code, but no one's giving it.

There's a reason I'm asking for proof: I don't know. I cannot say one way or another what's going on. Given my own personal experience, I do not think what you are saying is true. However, given that, and I quote myself, "info varies for everyone, even two people with the exact same computer, for no discernible reason," I am more than willing to believe that I am holding onto a false point of view based on limited data, if you can prove what you're saying.

I don't care what proof you want to give. Just give more than none and stop tossing unsupported assertions into an echo chamber. If you are so confident in what you are saying, then prove it. Where are you getting your info? "Seeing for yourself?" What are you seeing? How? How can you know that you are right? Anecdotal evidence that's worthless? Emotional arguments based on interpretation? At the very least please make it so that I don't have to read your mind to know what you're talking about. If you have enough reason for me to believe you, then I will.