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come on! the tsunamis are great! i support, it will be good if it destroys a bit randomly the soils, and everything that water would wash away, it will force the players to build dams or reservoirs, and have a nice and intereresting phenomenon, also its not necessay to completely change the water mechanics, for example w = water ________wwww________ → ________________wwww a

I was thinking they should add some ambient mobs to the game, like as in bugs and such that are very small and don't drop anything, but maybe give some xp, for example, fireflies, they are little yellow dots that light up the game in forests at night in small amounts, or maybe in swamps, little gray bugs like mosquitos that are very small, and don't do anything but for the general feel of the atmosphere, I personally think these would have little negative effects and would fit in and make a better game atmosphere. I also think that there should be stuff like small little fish in water that don't give anything (like very small stuff like in swamps, tadpoles), just to make the water more lively, that way its minimal game changing, and makes the atmosphere feel better like I mentioned before, I think if properly done this idea would work out well.

EDIT: By bugs I mean only the ones specified, and also as Wolftopia sugested, I think small birds would work great.

In my opinion, the armor system in Minecraft is too simple. We have five basic armor sets, but only two (Iron and Diamond) are ever really used. I feel that the game could benefit from more armor variety. My intention when creating this suggestion is to create a sixth armor set that has a specific purpose in game, without it being too overpowered or underpowered.

Unlike the others, I got this picture from Images- so it isn’t perfect. My version of Bedrock Armor would be less black and more gray, without any white spots.

Bedrock Armor (name pending) would be a late-game, “legendary” armor that would be significantly stronger than Diamond Armor. In fact, a full set of Bedrock Armor would prevent players from taking nearly any certain damage. I know this may seem ridiculously overpowered, but hear me out.

Typically, a bedrock chestplate would reduce damage by 39.5%, leggings by 29.7%, and a helmet and boots by 14.9%. Overall, a full set of armor would result in 99% damage resistance to most physical attacks. In comparison, the maximum you can (theoretically) achieve in game is 80%*. Examples of this include:

• Direct attacks from mobs and players- 99% damage reduction
• Getting hit with an arrow, chicken eggs, or a fishing rod- 99% damage reduction
• Touching a cactus or armor with thorns- 99% damage reduction
• Fall damage- 75% damage reduction (see edits for reasoning of change)

*In the game, Diamond Armor has a value known as “toughness” which decreases damage reduction. The wiki has a complicated algorithm to damage reduction with Diamond Armor, and if you’re interested you can find said information here: Armor_Toughness. All that matters is that Bedrock Armor

would not be affected by toughness.

Yes, this means with a full set of Bedrock Armor (which would be incredibly rare) you would suffer nearly no damage. Despite this, some of the more “powerful” attacks would result in only a 50% damage reduction. In this case, a chestplate would only reduce damage by 20%, leggings by 15%, and helmet and boots by 7.5%. These include:

• Explosions- 50% damage reduction
• Getting struck by lightning- 50% damage reduction
• Getting hit by a falling anvil- 50% damage reduction
• Touching fire or lava- 50% damage reduction
• Getting hit by a fireball from a ghast or blaze- 50% damage reduction

While Bedrock Armor prevents players from taking physical damage, it is vulnerable to magic. Taking on the Wither with Bedrock Armor would be a bad idea…

• Potion effects- No damage reduction
• Potion tipped arrows- 100% damage reduction on the arrow, but no reduction on the effect.

In addition, Bedrock Armor slows down the player. A chestplate slows down the player by 10%, leggings by 7.5%, and helmets and boots by 3.75%. Overall, a full set will slow down the player by 25%- 5% short of a slowness 2 potion. Unlike the potion effect, Bedrock Armor slowness does not affect the FOV.

Despite this slowness penalty, the player would receive 50% knockback resistance from a full set of armor. A chestplate would reduce knockback by 20%, leggings by 15%, and helmet and boots by 7.5%.

Bedrock Armor would have a durability 1.5x that of diamond. A helmet would have 546 uses, a chestplate 794, leggings 744, and boots 645 uses. After the armor breaks, it would be replaced by a "broken" variant that cannot be worn. The "broken" piece can then be fixed on an anvil, or function as a trophy item.

It should also be noted that Bedrock Armor cannot be enchanted. This means that a highly enchanted diamond chestplate may be stronger than a normal bedrock chestplate.

Bedrock Armor as an item.

Also, there wouldn’t be any bedrock weapons or tools.

When equipped, additional armor bars would appear- like how golden hearts appear after eating a golden apple. The additional bars would stay with the player until they take off the armor)

Updating Gold Armor (new!):

I think that the slowness, complete lack of enchantments, and the fire/potion weaknesses of Bedrock Armor will help balance out its strengths. The idea is that you can still win a fight against someone with Bedrock Armor- you just need to think about it strategically. Trapping a player in lava or using a potion effect will be easier than usual, as the player is slower. I hope that this will create more variety in combat, as currently potions and lava traps are, in my opinion, underutilized and forgotten in favor of swords.

So, with that out of the way, let’s discuss how to get Bedrock Armor.

Finding Bedrock Armor

Piercing

Other Uses

Conclusion

In my Introduction, I said I wanted to create a sixth armor set that has a specific purpose in the game. Bedrock Armor accomplishes this by specializing in combat. Even if you’re lucky enough to find a full set of Bedrock Armor, when you’re mining, building, farming, etc, you wouldn’t be wearing it. The slowness makes it an inconvenience to use on an everyday basis. Instead, you’d chose a simple set of Diamond Armor for other tasks. Bedrock Armor would be used for combat purposes only.

For example, say you’re mining. Why suffer from a 25% slowness penalty when you have a relatively strong set of Diamond Armor at your disposal? You would mine with your Diamond Armor, until you see a series of dungeons and countless mobs charging at you. Now it’s time to switch to Bedrock Armor, where you can take down the mobs with ease.

The most common complaint I found when researching sixth, stronger-than-diamond armor suggestion threads was that the armor made diamond useless, or that the armor was useless because enchanted diamond was stronger. Bedrock Armor, instead of trying to be better (or worse) than Diamond Armor, serves as a specialized armor for a specific task. That way, you can have both Diamond and Bedrock sets at the player’s disposal, and they can evaluate and decide on the proper armor based on the situation.

Thanks for reading!

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I thoght we were done with all this Minecraft 2 crap already. Just put the 2 away...

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Ask yourself, what popular game out there has this timed attack system, there wouldn't be many of not one..

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I can go on for days. Best part about those timed combat games? Most of them are fast paced, similar to the "timed combat" here. The only thing you guys are dragging yourself down with is "There's a visible bar muh spamkliking bring bak noa!"

But it's obvious everyone here is against removing it, I can agree being against it, but let's find some actual reasons to hate the combat system and use those reasons as an excuse to give combat an overhaul or to remove it, because I can't really agree with anything you've just said, op.

Let's start off easy, with the biggest legitimate complaint... The sweep attack works automagically. It should not work automagically, but I mean you guys did want simple combat.

Shields making you 100% resistant to damage also I feel hurts the combat system, before it was just 66% damage reduction, but my gripe with this is that shields are now a nerf to all mobs. You can stand in a corner and be immortal for as long as you want, not that you'd need to since mobs (almost) never swarm you or deal enough damage to justify blocking over attacking. Except creepers. Shields should only reduce creeper damage

On top of that, there's the sweeping edge enchantment, which basically is a buff for players that was extremely unnecessary. Shields blocking too much of the screen I guess is a valid complaint...

There's also a lack of depth to the combat. There is a LOT more than before, but it's still nothing great. I feel combat should be "easy to use, hard to master", that way competitive pvp isn't a joke and there's an actual skill ladder larger than 5 seconds of work. But it's again unnecessary because Minecraft generally is a single player focused game, barring realms and realms only, and mobs are too simple to justify the game's extra depth. Plus "Muh simplicity"

On top of that, some can say there's a lack of weapons. Sure we got an expensively different and not worth it type of throwable potion, and an equally expensive and not worth it tippable arrows, but we really don't have much. We got DPS/Area of Attack swords, then we got high base damage axes. There was a lot of untapped potential here.

Some could also say the golden apple nerf was just slightly too much, and I can ever so slightly agree, but not enough to care. A valid fix is to simply re-implement the recipe and keep it in its nerfed state.

There we go, we've successfully came up with 6 reasons to hate the combat system! So what happens when we remove the current system? The issues get worse. Even if you hated the combat system with your every burning passion, removing it does not fix the issues you wanted to be fixed. It makes those issues even bigger issues.

So I could of agreed with you op if you were willing to think for a moment and try to consider an overhaul rather than an outright removal, but as of now, I can't actually support you even if I wanted to.

Herobrine thread number 8,976,543... Herobrine isn't being added into the game in any way shape or form, Closest you get is the -removed herobrine changelog text...

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Hi

This next potion is going to be kind of resistence potion, only that it changes your skin and its more powerful.

Let's make a potion more OP than an unobtainable one!

Its brewed by iron block, brewing stand melts the iron block into the water bottle.

That sounds extremely toxic.

Water bottle + netherwart and then add iron block and glowstone or redstone after it. It changes your skin into a littlebit iron. Your skin model and some things still will be same, but you have iron texture.

As opposed to every other potion having particles.

With this potion youre slower and cant swim, these are the minuses.

Which is why I didn't bother with Ironflesh on Dark Souls.

PLus in this is that you have resistence 4, strength 2 and regeneration 2

So an overpowered enchanted golden apple for way less cost.

+ you take very very small fall damage. Like 2hearts from 9block height with no armor on.

So it removes a heart of fall damage.

Its good to be used in pvp, as it makes you to a tank and i believe that its balanced as well

Not at all. Hunger and golden apples are obnoxious as is. Having someone with maxed armour and now 80% damage absorption is just stupid.

WHen the effect time runs out, the iron around you will disappear like the iron particles will come, when you break an iron block + anvil sound

Whatever.

Quote from GHXman»

Hi

I dont really want to run to next things before the thing before it havent even came out. But this is important. This isn't important

1.13 will be named : combat and biome update No. We already got the biome update, we also got the combat update. Why again.

So, the thing mc really need are weapons, We have weapons bcs pvp is mainly the basic thing of mc and server minigames. Pvp isn't the main thing of minecraft. Surviving and building are the main things of minecraft. Pvp is a thing that was created by the community We just need to add tons of weapons, ok not tons but much weapons. We don't need to add that Mc barely has sword and bow, all famous youtubers are making videos about mods what should come to vanilla mc about new items. The reason these things are mods is because it wouldn't fit in the game. Think of the mutant mobs mod. It is fun for 1 time, but would you really like spawning these mobs again and again? Like really, much weapons, every weapons should have a special ability, to make it moer special than others. Weapons shouldn't have special abilities. That is why we have enchantments. And diamond should always be the best tier

Biomes: ill be honest, we dont have really much biomes. But we have We need more custom landscape and modern, a littlebit modern Minecraft is set in the wild. In the wild there is no 'modern biomes'

THose 2 should be the point of the update 1.13 Not "those things should be", it should be "I want those things"