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Quote from BloodyPhoenix

Try the PC dragon. She'll fly anywhere as opposed to ours being stuck around the island. That's what needs fixing--not adding an attack, but changing the flight patterns.

Quote from RADIOACTIV56

The majority of the challenge is building a bridge to the island because your platform spawned so far away. We can all agree that the ender dragon on the Xbox 360 edition sucks, right? The PC version is even worse, but that is beside the point. I am thinking what they should do is make it pretty much arrow proof, which means the only time you can attack it is when it is sitting on the portal frame vomiting blood, or acid or whatever it is all over you.You can only attack it with a sword effectively. You all know who Lakitu is, right?

He is that annoying guy that throws down spiky monster things from his cloud thinking he is invincible. I am thinking the dragon does something similar. It throws down these things that spawn another kind of dragon that has no wings. The ender dragon will only let you hit him once, then there will be this pulse that flings you away. It will be similar to an explosion but no explosion. When this happens, all his little minions die.

Quote from Wezabi

I see why you say no cross breeding, but it'd be kind of annoying, why not make it like ocelot/cats, have a 50% chance for each type of baby when you cross breed.

Quote from IAMH4Z4RD

Maybe the ender dog can only be tamed by ender pearl/eye because I think for other dogs it makes sense but for ender dogs I personally dont think bones would tame one. Maybe an item called an ender bone. A bone with ender pearls around it?

Quote from IAMH4Z4RD

Maybe a nether dog? It would maybe only spawn in the nether and to tame it you could use a blaze rod?

Black Lab

Another possible look for a Husky

Ender Dog

Ender Bones

Possible look for "Hellhound's"

I made this list so it is easy for you guys just to copy and paste it into a document of your own, rather than having to go to the wiki every time + its a little easier to find the one you want. I hope it helps.


Enchantments ID

Armour

0 | minecraft:protection | Protection
1 | minecraft:fire_protection | Fire Protection
2 | minecraft:feather_falling | Feather Falling
3 | minecraft:blast_protection | Blast Protection
4 | minecraft:projectile_protection | Projectile Protection
5 | minecraft:respiration | Respiration
6 | minecraft:aqua_affinity | Aqua Affinity
7 | minecraft:thorns | Thorns
8 | minecraft:depth_strider | Depth Strider (1.8)
9 | minecraft:frost_walker | Frost Walker (1.9)

Weapons

16 | minecraft:sharpness | Sharpness
17 | minecraft:smite | Smite
18 | minecraft:bane_of_arthropods | Bane Of Arthropods
19 | minecraft:knockback | Knockback
20 | minecraft:fire_aspect | Fire Aspect
21 | minecraft:looting | Looting

Tools

32 | minecraft:efficiency | Efficiency
33 | minecraft:silk_touch | Silk Touch
35 | minecraft:fortune | Fortune

Bows

48 | minecraft:power | Power
49 | minecraft:punch | Punch
50 | minecraft:flame | Flame
51 | minecraft:infinity | Infinity

Fishing Rods

61 | minecraft:luck_of_the_sea | Luck of the Sea (1.8)
62 | minecraft:lure | Lure (1.8)

Everything

34 | minecraft:unbreaking | Unbreaking
70 | minecraft:mending | Mending (1.9)

As some of you may have noticed, I am no longer actively supporting this suggestion (although I'd still like to see it in-game). That means no new content will be added to this thread. Thanks for all the support! I'm surprised this thread is still alive.

For the lazy ones:

To modders:

Okay, so... I was thinking about new decoration blocks to be added in minecraft, when I thought about skull candles.

These ''candles'' would be crafted with a torch on top of a skull. They will both serve as a new light source and a decoration. Breaking a skull candle would give back a skull and a torch. They would also generate in strongholds and at the bottom of desert temples.

There is also a Nether variant: the Wither skull candle (very original name *cough*)! They are crafted the same way as a normal skull candle (but with a Wither skull) and breaking them gives back a Wither skull and a torch. They wouldn't generate anywhere, because it would be too easy to get wither skull to spawn The Wither. It would also be impossible to spawn the Wither with them.

Both types will be destroyed if water or lava attempts to flow through the skull candles. Like heads, they can be placed in 16 different directions and on walls. However, you cannot wear it on your head.

There is a Redstone variant for both the normal Skull and the Wither one. Like normal Redstone torches, they emit a dim light and give off Redstone power.

Appearances:

All these images were modified. It took me a long time to make them (though it doesn't look like it).
Normal:

Original:

•Torch on top

•Retextured torch on top

•Glowing eyes

•Glowing (Alternate)

Redstone:

•Torch on top

•Glowing eyes

Nether Variant (Wither):

Original:

•Torch on top

•Retextured torch on top

•Glowing eyes

•Glowing (Alternate)

Redstone:

•Torch on top

•Glowing eyes (I love this one)

Models:

These are models, so they're just the object itself, so no background, effects, ect.
Normal:

Oh ho ho!! Didn't expect that, did you?

Again... why not?

Wither:

Well, I wasn't going to skip this one!

Last one. I promise.

Crafting Recipes:

(Idea based on a suggestion from Kitteh6660, or someone else, I don't really remember...)
This section shows the different crafting recipes for the different Skull Candle appearances, if they were all added in the game. For now, I'll just show the recipes for the Normal type. For the Wither type, the Skeleton Skull changes to a Wither Skeleton Skull and for the Redstone variant, the Torch changes to a Redstone Torch.



"The Candle one is too complicated". I thought that the two dyes could change the Torch's color, while the string represents the wick.

•Skull Candle



•Skull Candle (Redstone variant)



•Wither Skull Candle



•Wither Skull Candle (Redstone variant)

As suggested by PatDay, The redstone variant could be turned off by right-clicking, allowing for secret switches (however, to make the switch secret, it would only work with the glowing version of the Redstone Skull Candle).

What do you guys think? You may leave some feedback if you'd like to, I'm not forcing you.

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Quote from CaptainTron

As a hard mode player, I feel there is not enough armor to protect you, and the armor is hard to get.

Quote from CaptainTron

If people are saying that we are getting the "Scary update", we will probably get the Wither, because on the Minecraft Wiki I typed in "Wither" and this is what it said: “

New Boss: The Wither. Better Craft a diaper, pal. ~ The Pretty Scary Update Promo Poster

And here is the poster:

• The Wither and wither skeletons
• Beacons
• Bats and witches
• Monsters can now pick up items, weapons, and armor
• Command block
• plus a lot more.
You can read about it on the wiki, http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Pretty_Scary_Update

Quote from CaptainTron

I propose it shouldn't be an item, it should be a host option or something.

1. The player would take the egg from the nest and bring it back to their home/cave/castle/dwelling and place it on a block of dirt underneath a torch.
2. The player would then have to wait a couple of in-game days.
3. After a few days pass, a baby Gryphon would emerge.
4. The player would then have to feed the baby Gryphon meat or fish once a day for a couple days.
5. After a couple days of feeding, the baby Gryphon would grow into an adult, ready to be saddled.
6. The player would then place a regular saddle, the type used on pigs, onto their newly raised Gryphon.
7. Upon being saddled, the player's new Gryphon is ready to be mounted. But that doesn't mean the player can have unlimited, overpowered flight. No sir.

• Instead of unlimited flight, like in creative mode, a Gryphon rider's flight would be slightly challenging yet still useful. Much like how boats function in Minecraft.
• In order to take off, and to stay in the air, the player would have to press their space bar for every flap of their Gryphon's wings. This means that the Gryphon, just like the player, is effected by the game's gravity. That way, it wouldn't feel like cheating. This may sounds difficult, but i think it would lead to a much more immersive Gryphon flying experience!
• Traveling via Gryphon would sometimes be slightly faster and more convenient than walking on foot, but in some cases it would also be a FAR worse alternative to walking. For example, trying to fly your Gryphon down into and through a cave would be a TERRIBLE idea.

• Getting past mountains a little faster than on foot, and without the need to eat as much.
• Flying over lakes or rivers instead of having to swim.
• Safe late night traveling. That is, unless you get shot by a skeleton's arrow
• Being able to leave from the top floor of your castle or other large dwelling.
• FUN! Or atleast i think it would be.

CONCEPT ART :
Standing:

Sitting:

Flying:

Model views:

Brooding box

Dimninds!

NOTE: This photo is an inside joke and purely for fun. We do NOT suggest that Gryphons should EVER shoot diamonds. Or dimninds. Click this spoiler to proceed

Roosts

Special thanks to Papertiger for all of the awesome concept art, avatars and signature banners!

SUPPORTER SUGGESTIONS:
You guys have given me many awesome suggestions so i decide to place the most game fitting and balanced ones here:

Disclaimer: I will try my best to describe your guys' ideas and list the names of the people who have suggested them. Let me know if i miss something!

Disclaimer II: This thread is rapidly gaining support and unfortunately i can't always keep track of who has suggested what. I'm most likely to miss some people who deserve credit, sorry. Let me know if i do!

0. HEALTH, HUNGER AND MORTALITY (pinballboy7, Droideka30, Papertiger, zeel, ErasmoGnome, IonicTiger): One of the most talked about suggestions. The idea that tamed Gryphons should have health, hunger and be killable by mobs, other players or enviromental conditions (lava, etc.). It has also been suggested that if your Gryphon gets hungry enough, it will bite/peck at you in frustration, buck you off if you attempt to mount it, or even go off and eat wild animals and/or livestock (pigs, chickens, sheep, cows).

1. Soaring (Papertiger, Droideka30, zeel, crazeenuthead): You should be able to hold down the space bar to make your Gryphon soar, once you have already achieved altitude and speed

2. Wild adult Gryphons in the sky (Papertiger, Paradox01010, zeel): You shoud sometimes be able to see wild Gryphons flying high up (out of reach) in the sky. Perhaps flying in the direction of where a nest and egg is. This would most likely be rare.

3. Walking (Kisdee, RobertFrans): Instead of strictly being able to fly and hop, a mounted Gryphon would be able to slowly walk on the land as well. It would be unable to move up and down blocks (like a pig), but you could just press spacebar to flap its wings in order to hop up to where ever you are trying to get.

4. Breeding (Droideka30, Papertiger, zeel): If you are lucky, and skilled enough, to obtain two Gryphon eggs, and now are the proud owner of two Gryphons, you should earn the right to breed them. Once Gryphons breed, they would lay one egg. It has also been suggested that tamed Gryphons can only breed during a full moon and that when bred in captivity, Gryphons need a "Brooding box" in which to lay their eggs. See Papertiger's brooding box concept art here

5. Gryphon melee attack (Paradox01010, zeel): Your Gryphon would be able to do damage and/or a knockback to enemies that you dive at with it. This would be hard, but if you were able to steer your Gryphon properly, you would inflict damage fairly.

6. A special way to take the egg (Moosemunchee, zeel, RobertFrans, IonicTiger, zapper990): The idea that the player shouldn't simply be able to punch the Gryphon egg until it breaks and then pick it up. Perhaps the player would have to use a pickaxe with the Silk Touch enchant, a piston, minecart and rail, diamond pickaxe, shovel or something else. It has also been suggested that Gryphon nests and eggs should spawn only in the spring and despawn in the fall, meaning that you can never find them in the winter.

7. DOGFIGHTS! / Sky Jousting/ Sky Duels (bebe33, Papertiger, Paradox01010): It would be awesome, wouldn't it?

8. Visual roll while turning (bebe33): The idea that a Gryphon should roll slightly while turning, for visual effect. Much like how a bird rolls as it turns in real life.

9. Pitch (bebe33, zeel): The idea that you should be able to pitch your Gryphon up and down while flying. Pitching it downwards will increase your forward momentum. Pitching it upwards will increase altitude.

10. Thrust (zeel): The idea that you should be able to choose the level of thrust per wing flap based on your timing and space bar usage. (Half flaps, full thrust flaps, etc).

11. Wing angle and banking (zeel):

Quote from zeel

Wing angle: Space bar controls flapping, the W A S D keys control the angle of the wings. W angles them down/forward, S andgles back, A and D angle them opposite each other (A: left down, right up. D: left up, right down). This causes role/banking, witch lets you turn, basically A and D let you turn. Flapping while holding one of the W A S D keys will cause thrust in that direction. With W flapping will thrust you forward (no keys basically only gives you upwards thrust), accelerating you. S will cause the flap to come forward, giving reverse thrust, to slow you down (or fly slightly in reverse when taking off). Flapping with A or D will tighten the turn.

Turning: I have already mentioned two ways to turn, but here is the in depth part. Holding W and looking will cause a very slow turn, holding A or D (whatever direction you wish to turn) will cause you to bank in that direction, this makes the turn much tighter. Using both turning methods at the same time is even better, and causes you to bank much more. If, once you have banked to the maximum level, then flap the wings you will turn drastically in that direction, though you will lose a lot more speed than you would in a normal turn.

See also zeel's ideas for flight mechanics

12. Armor! (zeel, papertiger, Droideka30, IonicTiger): The idea that Gryphons should be able to equip special Gryphon-only armor. There would be leather, iron, gold and diamond versions. The better the quality of the armor, the higher movement speed penalty the Gryphon would suffer due to the weight. It has been suggested that you only find these pieces of armor in Strongholds.

13. Inventory (papertiger, Droideka30, zeel, IonicTiger): The idea that you should be able to place an item similar to a saddle bag or pouch on your Gryphon's back that would act as a chest and the Gryphon's inventory. This may or may not be where you would equip Gryphon-only armor at.

14. Talon grab (SkarmorySilver, papertiger): The idea that your Gryphon should be able to grab things with it's talons on command while mounted. Possible things Gryphons could grab: mobs, players, items, blocks. To make it balanced, if your Gryphon did grab a mob or player, the mob or player would still be able to aim up and attack the Gryphon and/or it's rider. With this form of balance in mind, the player would be able to use it's Gryphon to drop mobs from great heights, inflicting falling damage. This would be at the risk of the Gryphon and the Player's health and well being, however.

15. The Spire (IonicTiger): Click here to view IonicTiger's idea for a Gryphon nest atop a spire:

What if the nest, instead of spawning on the side of a cliff, would spawn on a massive spire that, depending on the hight of the mountain it spawned on, would range any where from a mere twenty blocks high, or a staggering hundered blocks high, and wouldn't end until it reached a few blocks above cloud level, thus forcing you to fight the adult gryphon?

The spire would be a jagged piller of rock, twisted and craved by the wind, as it has stood for a millennium, awe inspiring by its sheer size.
The design of it would have to be carefully considered; if too thin in, it would look a bit... strange; I would prefer it to be at least 7 blocks by 7 blocks, but, players would be able to tunnel right under the tower (assuming that it was hollow), and build a dirt tower to come out right under the egg.
You could fill the inside of the spire with lava, but this would be massively off theme.
Possibly the easiest solution to this problem would be to have to tower made of obsidian, and it would not be hollow. You could tunnel under it, but it would be easier to just fight the mother.
Also, as a few pages back there was talk of gryphons, being the most noble of beasts, collecting treasure, why not have blocks of gold, diamond, and emerald embedded in the spire?
They (the aforermetioned valuable minerals) would randomly spawn in the outer most layer of the spire, but there would only be a maximum number of only six blocks spawning in a tower that could be a hundred blocks high, so even getting them would be a mighty challenge.

16. Lance and saddle mounted lance holder (firewave15): firewave15 has suggested that there should lances and saddle mounted lance holders that the player could use from Gryphon and also possibly Horse back. The saddle mounted lance holder would be required in order for the player to maintain control of his mount whilst using a lance. The lance would do damage based on the speed that your Gryphon is traveling upon the point of impact with an enemy. The lance would have a longer reach than a sword, making it ideal for mounted combat. But it would be useless for anything else. The mounted lance holder would most likely break after a set number of uses, perhaps 50.

17. Fear of fire (IonicTiger): The idea that Gryphon's should be afraid of fire, and will not fly within 5 blocks of any fire. This would add balance to PVP ground vs air combat, making players on the ground slightly more defended from Gryphon riders. Players on the ground would still be vulnerable to a Gryphon rider's bow and splash potions, however.

Quote from IonicTiger

It would prevent gryphon riders from totally dominating the battle-field, but would be small enough as to not render gryphon useless in PVP.

CALL TO ARMS... AND TWEETS... AND REDDITS!
I encourage all of our supporters and/or bannerlords to tweet @Dinnerbone and @Jeb_ so that they can become aware of Gryphons and perhaps add them in a future patch. It worked for the "Colored glass" suggestion. They tweeted and got noticed and now have a good shot at having their idea added. We can do it too, guys!

REDDIT:

Quote from zeel

Dinnerbone recently made mention of a subreddit for MC suggestions. With jde's permission I have posted this suggestion there:
http://www.reddit.co..._survival_mode/

I encourage you all to go check it out/up-vote it!

DON OUR BANNER!:
Copy and paste this into your signature:

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BANNERLORDS:
I shall name all those who don our banner! (Let me know if i missed ya):

Papertiger, zeel, Droideka30, empoleon53098, Pinballboy7, Ram9bo, Withnothing, IonicTiger, EmeraldDragon225, SkarmorySilver, gugus294, Xweetok_II,
Sh4rp_Blade15, Minor107, xSatuim, Concerer82, Riggzon, Zbakkar_Herobrine,
Starhowl, Mobius762, shadowyblade, theorangecreeper, EpicGamer, Sylveon,
King_Of_Wolf, enderman_guy, Rex1900Roblox, BGgames, Euclid243, Techdolpihn
purebloodedgriffin, firewave15, zeuslightning125, Jetstream_Xeno

EDIT LOG: There are now some concept screenshots further on down this page in a recent post. Added a game breaking? section. Added amazing concept art, avatar and banner by Papertiger. Added a "Supporter Suggestions" section. Added a poll. Added "tweet and support us". Added banner info and bannerlords. Added more concept art inside of spoilers. Added call to arms... And tweets, replacing the old tweet section. Added a disclaimer about this not being a mod or mod suggestion, but rather a vanilla suggestion.

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