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    posted a message on [1.1] - Survival Multiplayer United [Factions] [RP] [mcMMO] [Whitelisted] [MSP] [HoTB] [20+ slot] [Website] [Ventrilo/Teamspeak]
    White list updated.

    Welcome to SMP-U Mcknight58. See you online.
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    posted a message on [1.1] - Survival Multiplayer United [Factions] [RP] [mcMMO] [Whitelisted] [MSP] [HoTB] [20+ slot] [Website] [Ventrilo/Teamspeak]
    White list updated.

    Confirmed your friend is unicornodoom. Welcome to SMP-U xoapsoccer33. See you online.
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    posted a message on Heroes of the Basement
    HotB Minecraft - Ep28 - Goodbye to Fairhaven

    "Heroes of the Basement" The heroes have slept but they awaken to the grim site of their city in near total ruin. The heroes consider what to do next when reality sets in. They cannot rebuild with the constant undead and worse attacking. They meet up with Dragonslayer251 who has taken a dream potion. As night falls they climb one of the remaining towers to see the incoming horde. Andue sees his boat mostly intact and the heroes set out to escape. Season Finale.

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    posted a message on [1.1] - Survival Multiplayer United [Factions] [RP] [mcMMO] [Whitelisted] [MSP] [HoTB] [20+ slot] [Website] [Ventrilo/Teamspeak]
    The server staff would like to congratulate Jkilla2013 on his persistence in finding the Goblin, Dark Dwarf and Dark Elf shrines and opening the undercity city raid area of Kallazzarath for all. The First Foray got repulsed by the goblins at the gate with two player deaths but we know you guys will return and get deeper into the city! Good luck.
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    posted a message on [1.1] - Survival Multiplayer United [Factions] [RP] [mcMMO] [Whitelisted] [MSP] [HoTB] [20+ slot] [Website] [Ventrilo/Teamspeak]
    A group adventure/raiding area with a tiered quest/reward system is now in place. Be one of the first to help open Kallazzarath and take it back.
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    posted a message on 12w08a Snapshot Released
    Quote from wyrmhole

    Of course I want to count all of the ores -- all of these items in their block form you find in the ground are "ores". Since the point of mining is to find resources underground, then these all count as stuff you find mining. And there's already enough.
    So, what exactly do we need more ores for?


    I think I made a pretty good case. There should at the very least be a nether ore. Currently there is no good reason to mine in the nether except to gather netherrack for eternal fires. It is so plentiful one trip covers you for a life time of a play for the environement you are in. I think it is pretty clear that something is missing here.
    Again it is called "mine" craft. I already granted that there are 6 ores if you include non-metals so restating it doesn't make the argument stronger. I love every one of them just as you state. But yes more is not less. It is more. I wouldn't mind seeing wooden items break very easily and adding a copper level that is just a little better than wood. Gold looks pretty but falls apart quickly as it should, so copper is not equal to gold.

    I just have a hard time understanding why people fight so hard for the status quo. Heck Terraraia has many times the number of ores and each one adds to the game. It creates a something to move through so you don't end up at the end game in a few hours. Unless I am in hardcore mode or on a pvp server where other players are after me I am in a full set of diamond armor and diamond tools in hours. That's too fast.

    Quote from wyrmhole

    What is another end-game option for tools going to add? "Oh it's diamond but stronger." Wow, that really added a lot to the game!


    As for better than diamond I didn't mean just stronger but with other properties. Stronger is where you start, it isn't where you end. Alloys would be great. It would be nice to take copper and tin and make bronze for instance. And look just because you haven't imagined them doesn't mean we can't. Maybe nether ore armor makes "some" nether mobs ignore you the way pigzombies do. Maybe it works if you have a full set. Maybe a mix of ores makes interesting combinations so you have to decide between the right mix of durability and protection.
    Quote from wyrmhole

    We already have 4 levels of tools that are identical except for their speed and durability stats. More of the same is not actually more.


    You half make my arguement for me. You seem to be arguing that there is little difference between the tools we have now. Yes what you say is true if strength is the only factor. Making them "merely" stronger or weaker is setting the bar too low. Use your imagination. This is Minecraft. Many things are possible. Perhaps a different ore/crystal allows you to see previous ores through only a few blocks of solid stone (say 2-3 not x-ray which is lame IMO). Perhaps another helps brewing new potions or changes an enchantment. Anything is possible if only we don't limit ourselves.

    Ask yourself this. Why would they make the visible block limit go from 256 to 4096 if they have no intention of introducing new blocks. If they are going to introduce new blocks why would they introduce no ores at all to "MINE"craft as part of that?

    Quote from wyrmhole


    "More of the same because more is inherently better even if it adds nothing to the game but 'more'" is not a philosophy the makers of Minecraft share with you, and thank God for that. There are some mod makers that agree with you though, so you should check those out.


    This is a strawman argument. At no point do I want or have ever said more of the same would be desired. More and different ores with different properties would be great. And, I have tried those mods and like pistons they added to the game and make mining worthwhile and interesting and not something to be ignored after hitting enough diamond to make a few blocks.

    Let's not talk past each other. I love Minecraft. I really like the 6 ores we have now. I think what we have now is good and I love the changes I see coming. I am merely making a suggestion to an aspect of the game that hasn't gotten a lot of love in a good while and is in the name of the product itself.
    Posted in: Minecraft News
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    posted a message on 12w08a Snapshot Released
    Quote from wyrmhole

    Um seems like the mining basics are pretty done to me. I do not think this game needs a proliferation of ores. We have sufficient ores, tools, and even enchantments to help with mining. So, what else do we need?


    I am sorry but 2 ores in a game called "mine"craft is not "sufficient ." There isn't even copper which is a far more common metal. And I'd rather there be some upper level ones, maybe even one in the Nether which would give more of a reason to go there besides getting resources for potions. Let's have ores with special properties above diamond since one of the games strong focuses is "mining".

    Everything else I agree with. 1.2 will be awesome and I can wait for another release for more ores. But let's not pretend that iron and gold (two) are enough. If you want to count the two gems (1 of which is pretty much decorative (Lapis) and the other represents the ONLY end game tool option that have been available forever then you have 4. redstone and coal to the mix and you have 6. But really that is a stretch.

    More variety will keep this game growing and interesting.
    Posted in: Minecraft News
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    posted a message on [1.1] - Survival Multiplayer United [Factions] [RP] [mcMMO] [Whitelisted] [MSP] [HoTB] [20+ slot] [Website] [Ventrilo/Teamspeak]
    Cal Posting for colafugel

    In Game name (IGN):colafugel
    Will you follow the rules:yes
    Why do you think you should be allowed to play on our server:I am friends with simen113 and want to join with them please.
    How old are you:8
    How did you find us:simen113

    You are approved and added to the white list, welcome to SMP-United
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    posted a message on Heroes of the Basement
    HotB Minecraft - Ep27 - The Battle of Fairhaven (Part 2)

    "Heroes of the Basement" a variety of yet unseen monsters continue to pummel the heroes, their allies and all the survivors in Fairhaven. While there are triumphs along the way the issue of Fairhaven's survival remains in doubt.

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    posted a message on [1.1] - Survival Multiplayer United [Factions] [RP] [mcMMO] [Whitelisted] [MSP] [HoTB] [20+ slot] [Website] [Ventrilo/Teamspeak]
    Quote from Oddball72

    A new set of rules for the server have been set into action. You may find them on our website.


    Read and agreed.
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    posted a message on [1.1] - Survival Multiplayer United [Factions] [RP] [mcMMO] [Whitelisted] [MSP] [HoTB] [20+ slot] [Website] [Ventrilo/Teamspeak]
    White list updated.

    Welcome to topher678. See you online.

    - Cal
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    posted a message on [1.1] - Survival Multiplayer United [Factions] [RP] [mcMMO] [Whitelisted] [MSP] [HoTB] [20+ slot] [Website] [Ventrilo/Teamspeak]
    White list updated.

    Welcome to SMP-U Rabley. See you online.

    Please ejoy the starter quests, factions, dungeons and world ready to explore alone or with other players. There are various projects going on that you can participate in but most of all have fun.

    - Cal
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    posted a message on [1.1] - Survival Multiplayer United [Factions] [RP] [mcMMO] [Whitelisted] [MSP] [HoTB] [20+ slot] [Website] [Ventrilo/Teamspeak]
    White list updated.

    Welcome to SMP-U TheTGage. See you online.

    There are starter quests at spawn if you want to go it alone or you can join one of the various factions and get in on what they have going. There is a faction embassy in the spawn city that gives info about some of the bigger or longer lasting factions. There are 4 dungeons for challenges and more in the works. There is an epic quest series about a Nether Incursion at the MSP faction home of Oakwood that you may want to check out after you get settled.
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    posted a message on [1.1] - Survival Multiplayer United [Factions] [RP] [mcMMO] [Whitelisted] [MSP] [HoTB] [20+ slot] [Website] [Ventrilo/Teamspeak]
    Cal Posting for lion814

    In Game name (IGN):lion814
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    Why do you think you should be allowed to play on our server:I am friends with Eross2000 and simen113 and want to join them.
    How old are you:8
    How did you find us:simen113


    You are approved and added to the white list, welcome to SMP-United
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    posted a message on [1.1] - Survival Multiplayer United [Factions] [RP] [mcMMO] [Whitelisted] [MSP] [HoTB] [20+ slot] [Website] [Ventrilo/Teamspeak]
    Cal Posting for Skarv66

    In Game name (IGN):Skarv66
    Will you follow the rules:yes
    Why do you think you should be allowed to play on our server:I am friends with Eross2000 and simen113 and want to join in the fun with them.
    How old are you:12
    How did you find us:Eross2000


    You are approved and added to the white list, welcome to SMP-United
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