Thanks guys, but I think I have my system down. I'm saving a ton by getting two superclocked 2GB EVGA Nvidia GeForce 560ti's with VRAM really cheap. The only thing that you could help me with is a version of the above build with a motherboard that can do SLI.
my last post is it. mobo with SLI. IF you happen to find one that is cheaper with SLI, it is probably **** unless there is some ridiculous sale going on.
I meant more of the gpu really. Either way, with a $900 price tag on it, don't buy it. Either they don't know what they are doing or they are trying to make a serious profit off of you (what I expect them to be doing)
EDIT: just realized that 7700 is not a GPU but a series. Just to show their level of expertise (and mine for that matter, at least on the lower end of the spectrum)
usd yes, i thought it was pretty good, you can't even get any decent computers around here for less then 1500
Completely wrong. The GPU is complete **** for a $900 budget (you can get a 7790 for around $80 on sale)
The CPU is good for like $450-$500 builds, definitely not a $900.
They probably used parts that they that had spare inventory of from a few years back and am trying to scam cash out of you.
I buy that build for $400, certainly not $900.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($134.29 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($99.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($225.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($82.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $836.64
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Just about to build almost the exact same build lol.
I personally would drop to a 6300 and get a beefier gpu like the R9 280X, but the 270X will do just fine for your needs (plus you get that 8 core madness)
yes and no. the CPU CAN be upgraded to a AMD FX-8320/8350, however that might be it for the CPU.
Rest is like any other computer, easily replaceable.
at that point, if you want to upgrade it past the 8350 (do not recommend the 9xxx), you would have to leave the am3+ platform and go for whatever AMD (or go Intel) puts out since you wont need to upgrade for 2-3 years with the processor really if you are only gaming. IF you do need to upgrade, max without upgrading the motherboard would be a 8350 (again do not recommend the 9xxx series as they are just overclocked 83xx).
So really, everything is upgradable, just some things need to upgrade with it.
CPU: AMD FX-4300 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: AZIO Large Print Tri-Color Illuminated Keyboard Wired Ergonomic Keyboard ($19.99 @ Amazon)
Speakers: Syba CL-SPK20115 6W 2ch Speakers ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $349.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-03 20:43 EST-0500)
Ignore what I said in the previous post lol.
You'll only be able to SLI in games that support it. That is why you may end up playing some games with only one card. So just letting you know as one 560ti isn't as good as one 7850.
CPU: AMD FX-4300 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($81.42 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: AZIO Large Print Tri-Color Illuminated Keyboard Wired Ergonomic Keyboard ($19.99 @ Amazon)
Speakers: Syba CL-SPK20115 6W 2ch Speakers ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $381.34
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-03 19:49 EST-0500)
Better to ditch the FM2 platform altogether. Only the top tier FM2 mobos have SLI.
The FX-4300 performs basically around the same as the 760K (recommend getting a 6300 if you can afford it)
The EVGA seems to be good build and reliability, I could be wrong.
$381, then factor in that $100.
So yeah, the 560 ti SLI would be better but in actuality, it actually costs more since the mobo has to support it, the psu needs to be higher watt, etc, etc.
Meh. Either way the 7850, regardless of bad benchmarking, It offers better price to performance and is good for your budget.
(I am not familiar with Nvidia's lower spectrum of cards so I don't know, but Nvidia really doesn't much ground in the sub $150ish range, at least from what I have seen, so your best bet is on AMD and the 7850s)
CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($59.91 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($127.55 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: AZIO Large Print Tri-Color Illuminated Keyboard Wired Ergonomic Keyboard ($19.99 @ NCIX US)
Speakers: Syba CL-SPK20115 6W 2ch Speakers ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $462.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-02 21:30 EST-0500)
The Radeon 7850 curbstomps the GTX 650 and any other Nvidia card for the price range (uses more power, but really isn't much if you live any modern country/area as usually power is quite cheap)
Also has 2GB of dedicated ram for GPU compared to 650's 1. Even against the 650 Ti Boost, the 7850 still for the most part is better. (not fanboying here, it is the truth)
Fast RAM is unneeded as only APU really take advantage of it in most circumstances. (especially this budget and use)
The CPU is much better for the buck since its performs better than the A10 for $40 around less(just doesn't have integrated graphics which you dont need with a graphics card.)
I don't have a need for a case or optical drive, but I do need speakers and a keyboard. Thanks for the idea of using Ripjaws RAM, though. It reduced my build's price to $416. Also, since I plan on upgrading almost everything over time, I was thinking I should get a 500W power supply. After adding in the CPU you used I got it to be THIS. Is there any way I can get a lower price out of it?
Don't get the 650 if you are going with an APU build. Defeats the purpose of it. Stick with just the A10 or just a dedicated build because you are wasting money with that build.
Don't look at Ghz, they practically mean nothing unless you are looking at the two CPU/GPU from the same family (even then there still could be wild factors that a lower clocked one could outperform the higher clocked one)
CPU: AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($59.91 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($23.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq 350W ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $455.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-02 20:27 EST-0500)
Assuming budget is $460
Assuming you don't need peripherals
Assuming you aren't going to upgrade to an dedicated graphics card(power will not be enough)
Assuming you just need a no frills pc that will get the job done.
The 2133 mhz RAM is good for APUs (faster would be better but 2133 is good for budget.)
Assuming you are not overclocking (otherwise get a CPU cooler and a better motherboard for that matter, again budget)
However, I would suggest just running an Ethernet cable from the router if possible because that would give you the best connection possible and since its a desktop, it isn't really going anywhere. But again, if you can't then get a $10 card and that will really will be fine.
Good. Best bang for the buck laptop I have seen in a long time.
It'll play BF3 at decent settings and decent framerates.
And maybe even BF4 too, but definitely lower than in BF3 (obviously)
The resolution is 1366 by 768 which isn't bad at all for a 15.6 inch screen. This will look fine unless you are coming from already being used to 1080p (which i doubt with your old laptop is)
Beta 1.8 (played before a bit, but 1.8 was when I really got into it.) The glory days. First thing I did was punch wood (and continued to do so until one of the later versions of the official) and made some basic tools, a sword and pickaxe. I hollowed out a small mountian (probably 15 by 15 in size) and made a small home. I remember it having a stairway spiraling down the mountain into the water of my reed farm. How I miss it so. I died in honor against the evil foes of Minecraftia. Then Minecraft took a dump on me and my bed was missing and/or obstructed. I tried to use Cartographer to search for it, but never did I find it again.
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Also spending some time with HTML & CSS to build a website.
But I am not an expert in any of these by any means, but I am continuing to improve in Java and HTML & CSS.
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my last post is it. mobo with SLI. IF you happen to find one that is cheaper with SLI, it is probably **** unless there is some ridiculous sale going on.
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I meant more of the gpu really. Either way, with a $900 price tag on it, don't buy it. Either they don't know what they are doing or they are trying to make a serious profit off of you (what I expect them to be doing)
EDIT: just realized that 7700 is not a GPU but a series. Just to show their level of expertise (and mine for that matter, at least on the lower end of the spectrum)
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Completely wrong. The GPU is complete **** for a $900 budget (you can get a 7790 for around $80 on sale)
The CPU is good for like $450-$500 builds, definitely not a $900.
They probably used parts that they that had spare inventory of from a few years back and am trying to scam cash out of you.
I buy that build for $400, certainly not $900.
Just about to build almost the exact same build lol.
I personally would drop to a 6300 and get a beefier gpu like the R9 280X, but the 270X will do just fine for your needs (plus you get that 8 core madness)
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Yes. Thats the wonders of PCs in general.
You'll be able to swap out any of the parts later on if you need to.
at that point, if you want to upgrade it past the 8350 (do not recommend the 9xxx), you would have to leave the am3+ platform and go for whatever AMD (or go Intel) puts out since you wont need to upgrade for 2-3 years with the processor really if you are only gaming. IF you do need to upgrade, max without upgrading the motherboard would be a 8350 (again do not recommend the 9xxx series as they are just overclocked 83xx).
So really, everything is upgradable, just some things need to upgrade with it.
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2eADu
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2eADu/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2eADu/benchmarks/
CPU: AMD FX-4300 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: AZIO Large Print Tri-Color Illuminated Keyboard Wired Ergonomic Keyboard ($19.99 @ Amazon)
Speakers: Syba CL-SPK20115 6W 2ch Speakers ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $349.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-03 20:43 EST-0500)
Ignore what I said in the previous post lol.
You'll only be able to SLI in games that support it. That is why you may end up playing some games with only one card. So just letting you know as one 560ti isn't as good as one 7850.
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Pretty much sums it up.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2eys3
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2eys3/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2eys3/benchmarks/
CPU: AMD FX-4300 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($81.42 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: AZIO Large Print Tri-Color Illuminated Keyboard Wired Ergonomic Keyboard ($19.99 @ Amazon)
Speakers: Syba CL-SPK20115 6W 2ch Speakers ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $381.34
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-03 19:49 EST-0500)
Better to ditch the FM2 platform altogether. Only the top tier FM2 mobos have SLI.
The FX-4300 performs basically around the same as the 760K (recommend getting a 6300 if you can afford it)
The EVGA seems to be good build and reliability, I could be wrong.
$381, then factor in that $100.
So yeah, the 560 ti SLI would be better but in actuality, it actually costs more since the mobo has to support it, the psu needs to be higher watt, etc, etc.
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Meh. Either way the 7850, regardless of bad benchmarking, It offers better price to performance and is good for your budget.
(I am not familiar with Nvidia's lower spectrum of cards so I don't know, but Nvidia really doesn't much ground in the sub $150ish range, at least from what I have seen, so your best bet is on AMD and the 7850s)
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http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7850-vs-GeForce-GTX-650-Ti-Boost ?
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Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....BP/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker....WBP/benchmarks/
CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($59.91 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($127.55 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: AZIO Large Print Tri-Color Illuminated Keyboard Wired Ergonomic Keyboard ($19.99 @ NCIX US)
Speakers: Syba CL-SPK20115 6W 2ch Speakers ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $462.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-02 21:30 EST-0500)
The Radeon 7850 curbstomps the GTX 650 and any other Nvidia card for the price range (uses more power, but really isn't much if you live any modern country/area as usually power is quite cheap)
Also has 2GB of dedicated ram for GPU compared to 650's 1. Even against the 650 Ti Boost, the 7850 still for the most part is better. (not fanboying here, it is the truth)
http://www.hwcompare...radeon-hd-7850/
http://www.hwcompare.com/13797/geforce-gtx-650-ti-2gb-vs-radeon-hd-7850/
Fast RAM is unneeded as only APU really take advantage of it in most circumstances. (especially this budget and use)
The CPU is much better for the buck since its performs better than the A10 for $40 around less(just doesn't have integrated graphics which you dont need with a graphics card.)
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Don't get the 650 if you are going with an APU build. Defeats the purpose of it. Stick with just the A10 or just a dedicated build because you are wasting money with that build.
Plus get a better power supply (at least 80+ Bronze)
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-hive550
If you want a dedicated graphics build, I'll post one soon.
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will max out Minecraft at over 60fps.
Don't look at Ghz, they practically mean nothing unless you are looking at the two CPU/GPU from the same family (even then there still could be wild factors that a lower clocked one could outperform the higher clocked one)
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Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....YQ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker....SYQ/benchmarks/
CPU: AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($59.91 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($23.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq 350W ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $455.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-02 20:27 EST-0500)
Assuming budget is $460
Assuming you don't need peripherals
Assuming you aren't going to upgrade to an dedicated graphics card(power will not be enough)
Assuming you just need a no frills pc that will get the job done.
The 2133 mhz RAM is good for APUs (faster would be better but 2133 is good for budget.)
Assuming you are not overclocking (otherwise get a CPU cooler and a better motherboard for that matter, again budget)
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something like this :http://pcpartpicker.com/part/encore-wireless-network-card-enewi1xn42
would be more than sufficient if you are close to the access point's router (aka a home router)
However, I would suggest just running an Ethernet cable from the router if possible because that would give you the best connection possible and since its a desktop, it isn't really going anywhere. But again, if you can't then get a $10 card and that will really will be fine.
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Good. Best bang for the buck laptop I have seen in a long time.
It'll play BF3 at decent settings and decent framerates.
And maybe even BF4 too, but definitely lower than in BF3 (obviously)
The resolution is 1366 by 768 which isn't bad at all for a 15.6 inch screen. This will look fine unless you are coming from already being used to 1080p (which i doubt with your old laptop is)