One problem that minecraft has always had is how in-depth it does. How long you can play before it gets old. I know minecraft is a sandbox game and you can't beat it, but after you go to the end, get diamonds, raid dungeons and do all of that the game just gets old.
Here is my grand idea: After you reach a certain point in the game, you reach the Industrial age. This means that you use metal and machines instead of manually doing things (probably after you set up 10 furnaces each melting massive amounts of iron). This will make some things like unobtainable, but also add new things. When you pass to this new age, a chime or other random sound will play and text saying "Industrial Age Reached" will occur. This idea is in alpha in my brain, so suggestions and feedback would be appreciated (feedback besides 'You are dumb' or 'This is such a stupid idea!')! Watch for edits! Also keep in mind that if this does get implemented, It will be a game mode, making it completely optional for those who love vanilla minecraft..
Edit: When I say industrialization, I mean things like steam-powered boats that would be far larger than your average wooden boat. You could also make steam powered elevators (Freight and passenger variants).
Another thing to be added is trains: Linkable and massive mine carts that use rails, are powered by coal and water (possibly lava), and carry massive amounts of items from place to place for you. Its like moveable large chests, but quite a bit bigger.
Edit: This update would work a lot like the Better than Wolves mod, for the industrial age. Right now, I have only thought of
1)The Archaic age: This is directly after you spawn. Nights would be more harsh and random, adding to the feel of being a newbie. The only requirement to getting here is spawning. Any NPC's you find will be living in tents, and will be hostile toward you. They will attack with flint-tipped spears.
2)The Mythic age: Magic and mythical creatures are stronger in this era. Enchantments appear here, and you have the ability to chose three minecraft gods to worship for their blessings. There is Notch, god of creation/good. Herobrine, god of evil/destruction. Lastly, there is _____, god of randomness (the blank is for a random name that I can't think of yet). The NPC villagers will form ancient cities and build statues of their chosen deity. Endermen will be 25% harder to kill here. To get here, you have to have a nether portal, have a full set of steel tools, and have a enchanting table.
3)Renaissance age: Villager's populations would increase, and they would build castles and have kings. They would also have wars with one another. Crossbows, catapults, and larger boats (ancient battleships) would appear, and enchantments would start to become weaker due to advancements in science. This doesn't mean that they will become completely obsolete, but they will be 25% weaker. Explosives will become 50% stronger, creepers and zombies will be more rare, and skeletons will become more common. A new type of enemy will also appear: Bandits. Bandits will work in teams, and there will be three varients:
A. The standard, armed-with-a-blade bandit. They will be similar to zombies, only faster and slightly weaker.
B. Archers, armed with bows, will attempt to kill you at long range. They are blessed with the gift of good sight, so they can and will attempt to snipe you from 50 blocks away. If you get too close, they will pull a knife on you. There will be four sub-types, each with different skills.
I. The average archer will have the stats listed above, and a spawn rate of 1/2, so they aren't uncommon.
II. The sniper will be weaker, but have more range (75 blocks), more accuracy and higher damage because it uses a superior bow. As a rare drop, he/she may drop part of a bow-sight, which will increase the amount of zoom-in when pulling back on the bow. It's spawn rate is 1/6
III. The crossbow archer. He will do massive amounts of damage with wide-tipped crossbow bolts. Sometimes he/she might decide to use explosive bolts, so it would be a good idea to keep them away from your house. They have quite a bit of range (70 blocks), but be slow in both walking and reloading. At close range, they will attempt to back up to use explosive bolts. They have a spawn rate of 1/20
IV. Exotic tribesman. Deadly assassin of foreign lands, the tribesman uses a blowpipe. The blowpipe darts aren't terribly damaging, , but they can be poisoned or have a knockout-serum on them (if hit by a knockout dart, the player will fall unconscious on the ground until day. When they wake up, some of their items will be missing). The tribesmen are fast, and they shoot fast too. They have a spawn rate of 1/100
C.Wizards will use magic to hinder you. They aren't very threatening, but they will debuff you and give bonuses to the rest of the bandit group they are with, so it is important to kill them before any other member of the group. They will be able to teleport, like endermen.
To arrive at this age, you must kill the EnderDragon
4) Industrial age: Large scale manufacturing, smoke, dangerous large machines. This era would include machines and more in-depth redstone mechanics. This era would also eliminate enchanting and mythical creatures due to advances in science. Instead of enchanting, a weapon could be processed in a machine. This would give it a prefix (ie: Sharp, Steel, Annoying, Brittle) that would affect how it works. The void would be replaced with infinite lava at this point in the game, to represent the earths interior. Mobs like zombies and creepers (the first enemies) will be replaced by soldiers, serial killers, terrorists, and mad scientists (no, not the one from More creeps and Weirdos). Requirement is coming soon!
Since normal minecraft ends in the Mythic age, this would make minecraft last twice as long with twice as much content.
Remember to vote in the poll! If you leave a comment, I will probably answer it pretty fast.
Edit: I just took out the space age since I figured nobody would like it anyway. And if they did...then I don't know. Now I will work on improving what I already have.
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Kaskade posted a message on Half Slabs, Tall Slabs ?With the new step mechanic, it'd be nice to be able to attach a half slab to a block above it, as the stairs now do, giving you a space at the bottom.Posted in: Suggestions
It would also be nice to have tall slabs, that place like steps do, based on direction facing, but are half as thick.
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Libertycrab posted a message on Can we start calling Beta 1.9 by its real name now?I sometimes pee on the side of the toilet to make less noise.Posted in: Survival Mode -
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Smashingzwan posted a message on How 1.8 has affect my views of MojangConcerning potential future moderation of this thread, Mods please read spoiler.Posted in: 1.8 Update Discussion
To any Moderators concerned with the location of this thread. I wasn't sure where it belonged since it could easily be put in both the "discussion" forum and the "1.8 discussion" forum (and I can just as easily see it being deleted for not being in the right one). If I have put this thread in an improper forum/subforum, I would really appreciate it if it could be moved to the proper place. If it for some reason breaks forum guidelines and you decide it should be deleted, please let me know what about it is inappropriate so I can refrain from repeating the same mistake in the future. I say this because I've had a number of posts deleted recently and I've received zero notifications or warnings letting me know why. If a post I make is deleted it should be because it breaks a forum guideline/rule and I should therefore receive a warning detailing why, correct?
I spent a good deal of time writing and rewriting this thread (I started pretty enraged, so the first draft was pretty inappropriate) so that it was as to the point and polite (as much as a thread like this can be polite anyway) as I could make it.
UPDATE: I've added some comments concerning the release of the 1.8 pre-release of the leaked beta test version of the beta (I think I said that right) at the end of the post
Summary:
-Notch takes 2 week break from Minecraft development during crunch time of 1.8 release to work on another game.
-Notch details why his cash shop would destroy the Minecraft community if those who played the game on steam couldn't access it.
-1.8 is arriving later than expected, and it doesn't appear that we'll be getting a "complete" 1.8 for some time to come. (Lets not forgot we've still got bugfixes and promises from previous updates that haven't materialized yet)
Because of these and other issues, I have lost a great deal of respect for Mojang and will avoid purchasing any of their products in the future.
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It is *CLEARLY* obvious that the eFame and millions of dollars Minecraft has made for Mojang has gotten to Notchs head, and by extension, the companies. He catches the most flak (and also, not to be forgotten or taken lightly, the most praise and worship) because he has set himself up as the face of Mojang/Minecraft. He is, to the average Minecrafter, the dude who made/developed/invented the game (regardless of whether it's true). This is in part due to the mindless zealotry with which some of the community speak of him on the forums here and all over the internet, and also due to Notchs own inability to put his ego aside and set people straight about the true nature of the games development.
Having said that.. Here are a few things about 1.8 and things that have come to light recently that have really soured my opinion of Mojang/Notch.
From Notchs twitter~
Jens will be the lead minecraft dev for a while because of a super secret project I will be working on for two weeks.
Yes, you read that correct. Notch is "taking a break" (as if he hasn't had enough) from Minecraft to work on an entirely different project... I'd imagine Notch is wealthy enough from Minecraft sales alone that he doesn't *need* to produce a new game right away from any sort of financial point of view. Let's not forget he's involved in the development of the more recently announced Mojang title "Scrolls" as well.
So to clarify: Even though Minecraft development seems slow and unsatisfying these days, Notch is of the opinion that he has no real obligation to help speed the progress along. Instead he chooses to enter weekend long game contests and work on his other (non-minecraft) game projects.
To any person with a conscious, that mountain of wealth (earned from Minecraft sales) would be an incredible motivator to complete the project that so many millions have paid him in good faith to complete. Yes, we knowingly purchased a product that was incomplete, but that purchase also included a promise of continued development for an unnamed period of time. Unfortunately we were never given any sort of development schedule and the guys at Mojang seem to be cool with a decidedly lazy approach to pretty much everything concerning Minecraft.
Where's the customer appreciation?
It doesn't exist, and I'll tell you why.
The mindless fanbase of Minecraft (No i'm not implying that everyone other than me, or that everyone who disagrees with me, is mindless. But I'd like you to tell me with a straight face that a large part of the community isn't infatuated with Notch to the point of overlooking any shortcomings he or the game might have) seems to see no evil in their dear old leader. They have been caught up in a great social tidal wave of euphoric eCelebrity worship not unlike the "two minutes hate" in the book by George Orwell, "1984". They will take whatever Notch and co. give them and they will rant and rave about how it's the greatest thing ever without even stopping to consider if it's actually any good. It is, I'm sure to some degree, this very idol-worship behavior which has gotten to the mans head and made him think he can behave however he wants without consequence.
Wait, 1.8 is delayed, is probably going to come to us in incomplete chunks, and there's no mention of resolving any of the longstanding bugs/issues that we've been dealing with? (pistons pushing pistons, redstone wiring circuit-autocomplete, etc)
I'm not sure I really need to expand on that. At least Notch is somewhat consistent in that he promises greatness and pretty much never actually delivers.
Lastly, this is another quote from Notch, concerning Minecraft being available on Steam:
"Being on Steam limits a lot of what we’re allowed to do with the game, and how we’re allowed to talk to our users. We (probably?) wouldn’t be able to, say, sell capes or have a map market place on minecraft.net that works with steam customers in a way that keeps Valve happy. It would effectively split the Minecraft community into two parts, where only some of the players can access all of the weird content we want to add to the game." ~Notch
If the thought of Notch considering a minecraft cash shop while the game itself is still incomplete doesn't get your blood boiling... Then his pathetic excuse about why he can't bring himself (We should be thankful he's so diligently trying to protect his cash shop for us, right?) to let the community be torn asunder because some people might not have access to virtual items for cash... This man has gotten *RICH* off of an incomplete game and is not only content to just let it putter along while the money keeps pouring in, he's trying to figure out ways to make MORE money from it.
Shame on you Notch.
Shame on you Mojang.
You suckered me in with an interesting game and all sorts of wild promises that never seem to fully materialize.
Won't happen again!
Was fun while it lasted.
If you made it this far, thank you for taking the time to read my thread. Feel free to post and tell me why you think I'm wrong or overreacting. Also feel free to chime in if you feel similarly to me and are rather let down.
Please try to keep discussion civil and orderly. I realize it can be an emotional subject for some (myself included), but let's try and argue with our brains, not our hearts. My disgust is pointed directly at Mojang, and not at any individual of the community, so please refrain from making personal attacks towards me or anyone else who posts in this thread and the favor will be returned.
I've read through this post about 20 times just to make sure I've toned down anything that could be considered insulting (except I guess towards Notch *rage*). If I somehow missed something or you take offense at something I've said, please let me know and I will try to promptly make the necessary changes.
It's not my intention to lash out at the community, it is my intention to express my disgust at Mojang/Notchs business practices in a place that they are most likely to see it.
Thanks again if you actual read my novel. Happy posting!
Leaked 1.8 Pre-release beta test version of beta impressions:
Firstly, I wonder what Jeb was thinking when he gave his original 8th of September release date guess. If it wasn't before, it's obvious now that 1.8 isn't anywhere near completion. This sort of poor communication is exactly what I was trying to bring up with this thread.
How did they NOT figure out that XP orbs lag the hell out of the server whenever someone that has a few levels worth dies?
How did they NOT figure out the furnace bug?
These kinds of blatantly obvious bugs/design flaws making it through their debugging/coding process is kind of amateurish and embarrassing in my opinion.
I'd also like to take a moment to point out that within a number of hours of the leaked 1.8 pre-release beta test version of the beta being released there were COMMUNITY MADE bugfixes for these issues. Again, kind of embarrassing (for Mojang).
Why is it that a company raking in $200,000 a day is unable to produce a stable update after months (since 1.8 has been in the works since the June/July time frame according to Notch and Co.) of development. Why is it that they're unable to properly communicate?
I could go on about multiple other aspects of 1.8 that are ridiculously buggy or just flat out poorly implemented (mineshafts/fortresses/ravines, limited visibility at lower altitudes, outrageous amount of crashing, etc), but I feel like I've already made my point and further reinforced my original argument.
Believe what you will, but 1.8 has been nothing but one fiasco after another since it was conceived.
Thanks for your time.
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Apterygiformes posted a message on Notch and Elin's Wedding - Our gift to themPosted in: Videos -
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Moonster posted a message on Clay Man Arena!Well this is a larger arena for some people that want to watch epic battles, it requires the CLayMan mod, you can get it here:Posted in: Maps
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/495553-173-kodas-clay-soldier-mod-v2-new-stuff/
Video(s):
Thanks for downloading if you do, feedback is appreciated, i will do more of these maps if people want me to ^^
Pictures:
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http://www.mediafire.com/?li9tcaco6euji52\
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V1: Released first map.
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binaryferret posted a message on minecraft inventory tinyPress f8, and set GUI scale to normal/medium.Posted in: Legacy Support - To post a comment, please login.
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Name it Wilson.
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You deserve a High 5 for that.
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Ok, I'll stop trying to log in.
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You have it, you just can't see it.
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I vote yes.
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Gas Mask Soldier
Cthulhu thing
Do whatever you want with 'em.
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All of the fools who are telling you to spend thousands on 'Gaming' Computers, are ignorable, and irrelevant. Just save up a couple hundred more dollars and get a nice computer with a good amount of RAM (about 4-5GB will be fine.), a good video card, and a decent hard drive.
$1500 on a computer? Absurd.
$700 should do nicely.
Also, don't get a laptop, ever, you will deeply regret it.
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