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I created this very huge world with villages, monsters (using custom npc and "mincraft comes alive") and other mods. I also added schematics to create these large villages using the program Mcedit and changed my main village's biome type. It is single-player and all mods, forge are for 1.7.10 that I want to use. I use resource packs and optifine, all up to date.
Everything works fine except for one thing: I run around my main village sometimes, and suddenly Minecraft "shuts down" and "a fatal error has occured, this connection is terminated" and then I end up at the Multiplayer section (even though this is a single player world).
I sometimes don't get a bug report, but yesterday I got one :
---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// Why did you do that?
java.lang.NullPointerException: Unexpected error
at net.minecraft.client.network.NetHandlerPlayClient.func_147282_a(NetHandlerPlayClient.java:243)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.client.PacketEventsClient.handlePacket(PacketEventsClient.java:106)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.core.PacketEvents.handlePacketEvent(PacketEvents.java:179)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.core.PacketEvents.handlePacket(PacketEvents.java:134)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.core.PacketEvents.handlePacket(PacketEvents.java:129)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.core.event.EventProxy$2.$event00032(Unknown Source)
at net.minecraft.network.play.server.S01PacketJoinGame.func_148833_a(SourceFile)
at net.minecraft.network.NetworkManager.func_74428_b(NetworkManager.java:212)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71407_l(Minecraft.java:2061)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71411_J(Minecraft.java:973)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:898)
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:148)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:497)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:135)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:28)
A detailed walkthrough of the error, its code path and all known details is as follows:
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-- Head --
Stacktrace:
at net.minecraft.client.network.NetHandlerPlayClient.func_147282_a(NetHandlerPlayClient.java:243)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.client.PacketEventsClient.handlePacket(PacketEventsClient.java:106)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.core.PacketEvents.handlePacketEvent(PacketEvents.java:179)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.core.PacketEvents.handlePacket(PacketEvents.java:134)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.core.PacketEvents.handlePacket(PacketEvents.java:129)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.core.event.EventProxy$2.$event00032(Unknown Source)
at net.minecraft.network.play.server.S01PacketJoinGame.func_148833_a(SourceFile)
at net.minecraft.network.NetworkManager.func_74428_b(NetworkManager.java:212)
-- Affected level --
Details:
Level name: MpServer
All players: 1 total; [EntityClientPlayerMP['Jessicaksch'/24305, l='', x=0.50, y=66.62, z=0.50]]
Chunk stats: MultiplayerChunkCache: 0, 0
Level seed: 0
Level generator: ID 04 - BIOMESOP, ver 0. Features enabled: false
Level generator options:
Level spawn location: World: (8,64,8), Chunk: (at 8,4,8 in 0,0; contains blocks 0,0,0 to 15,255,15), Region: (0,0; contains chunks 0,0 to 31,31, blocks 0,0,0 to 511,255,511)
Level time: 0 game time, 0 day time
Level dimension: 0
Level storage version: 0x00000 - Unknown?
Level weather: Rain time: 0 (now: false), thunder time: 0 (now: false)
Level game mode: Game mode: survival (ID 0). Hardcore: false. Cheats: false
Forced entities: 1 total; [EntityClientPlayerMP['Jessicaksch'/24305, l='', x=0.50, y=66.62, z=0.50]]
Retry entities: 0 total; []
Server brand: ~~ERROR~~ NullPointerException: null
Server type: Integrated singleplayer server
Stacktrace:
at net.minecraft.client.multiplayer.WorldClient.func_72914_a(WorldClient.java:425)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71396_d(Minecraft.java:2444)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:927)
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:148)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:497)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:135)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:28)
The Meaning of Life, the Universe, and Everything.
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alright, I deleted this liteloader file and played Minecraft for a while. It worked for a good time and I thought it was solved: but then I get the error where I get logged out of the game (and no crash report comes up because the game just shuts down)
I created this very huge world with villages, monsters (using custom npc and "mincraft comes alive") and other mods. I also added schematics to create these large villages using the program Mcedit and changed my main village's biome type. It is single-player and all mods, forge are for 1.7.10 that I want to use. I use resource packs and optifine, all up to date.
Everything works fine except for one thing: I run around my main village sometimes, and suddenly Minecraft "shuts down" and "a fatal error has occured, this connection is terminated" and then I end up at the Multiplayer section (even though this is a single player world).
I sometimes don't get a bug report, but yesterday I got one :
---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// Why did you do that?
Time: 17/09/18 4:08 PM
Description: Unexpected error
java.lang.NullPointerException: Unexpected error
at net.minecraft.client.network.NetHandlerPlayClient.func_147282_a(NetHandlerPlayClient.java:243)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.client.PacketEventsClient.handlePacket(PacketEventsClient.java:106)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.core.PacketEvents.handlePacketEvent(PacketEvents.java:179)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.core.PacketEvents.handlePacket(PacketEvents.java:134)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.core.PacketEvents.handlePacket(PacketEvents.java:129)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.core.event.EventProxy$2.$event00032(Unknown Source)
at net.minecraft.network.play.server.S01PacketJoinGame.func_148833_a(SourceFile)
at net.minecraft.network.NetworkManager.func_74428_b(NetworkManager.java:212)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71407_l(Minecraft.java:2061)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71411_J(Minecraft.java:973)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:898)
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:148)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:497)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:135)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:28)
A detailed walkthrough of the error, its code path and all known details is as follows:
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-- Head --
Stacktrace:
at net.minecraft.client.network.NetHandlerPlayClient.func_147282_a(NetHandlerPlayClient.java:243)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.client.PacketEventsClient.handlePacket(PacketEventsClient.java:106)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.core.PacketEvents.handlePacketEvent(PacketEvents.java:179)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.core.PacketEvents.handlePacket(PacketEvents.java:134)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.core.PacketEvents.handlePacket(PacketEvents.java:129)
at com.mumfrey.liteloader.core.event.EventProxy$2.$event00032(Unknown Source)
at net.minecraft.network.play.server.S01PacketJoinGame.func_148833_a(SourceFile)
at net.minecraft.network.NetworkManager.func_74428_b(NetworkManager.java:212)
-- Affected level --
Details:
Level name: MpServer
All players: 1 total; [EntityClientPlayerMP['Jessicaksch'/24305, l='', x=0.50, y=66.62, z=0.50]]
Chunk stats: MultiplayerChunkCache: 0, 0
Level seed: 0
Level generator: ID 04 - BIOMESOP, ver 0. Features enabled: false
Level generator options:
Level spawn location: World: (8,64,8), Chunk: (at 8,4,8 in 0,0; contains blocks 0,0,0 to 15,255,15), Region: (0,0; contains chunks 0,0 to 31,31, blocks 0,0,0 to 511,255,511)
Level time: 0 game time, 0 day time
Level dimension: 0
Level storage version: 0x00000 - Unknown?
Level weather: Rain time: 0 (now: false), thunder time: 0 (now: false)
Level game mode: Game mode: survival (ID 0). Hardcore: false. Cheats: false
Forced entities: 1 total; [EntityClientPlayerMP['Jessicaksch'/24305, l='', x=0.50, y=66.62, z=0.50]]
Retry entities: 0 total; []
Server brand: ~~ERROR~~ NullPointerException: null
Server type: Integrated singleplayer server
Stacktrace:
at net.minecraft.client.multiplayer.WorldClient.func_72914_a(WorldClient.java:425)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71396_d(Minecraft.java:2444)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:927)
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:148)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:497)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:135)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:28)
-- System Details --
Details:
Minecraft Version: 1.7.10
Operating System: Windows 10 (amd64) version 10.0
Java Version: 1.8.0_51, Oracle Corporation
Java VM Version: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (mixed mode), Oracle Corporation
Memory: 1993070560 bytes (1900 MB) / 3204448256 bytes (3056 MB) up to 11811160064 bytes (11264 MB)
JVM Flags: 8 total; -XX:HeapDumpPath=MojangTricksIntelDriversForPerformance_javaw.exe_minecraft.exe.heapdump -Xmx11G -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:G1NewSizePercent=20 -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=50 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=16M
AABB Pool Size: 0 (0 bytes; 0 MB) allocated, 0 (0 bytes; 0 MB) used
IntCache: cache: 26, tcache: 0, allocated: 13, tallocated: 96
FML: MCP v9.05 FML v7.10.99.99 Minecraft Forge 10.13.4.1614 Optifine OptiFine_1.7.10_HD_U_E7 63 mods loaded, 63 mods active
States: 'U' = Unloaded 'L' = Loaded 'C' = Constructed 'H' = Pre-initialized 'I' = Initialized 'J' = Post-initialized 'A' = Available 'D' = Disabled 'E' = Errored
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UCHIJAAAAAAAAA FML{7.10.99.99} [Forge Mod Loader] (forge-1.7.10-10.13.4.1614-1.7.10.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA Forge{10.13.4.1614} [Minecraft Forge] (forge-1.7.10-10.13.4.1614-1.7.10.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA CodeChickenCore{1.0.7.47} [CodeChicken Core] (minecraft.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA ivtoolkit{1.2.1} [IvToolkit] (minecraft.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA NotEnoughItems{1.0.5.120} [Not Enough Items] (NotEnoughItems-1.7.10-1.0.5.120-universal.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA mod_ThreadedLighting{1.7.10-1.0} [Threaded Lighting] (minecraft.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA psychedelicraftcore{1.4} [Psychedelicraft Core] (minecraft.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA gilded-games-util{1.7.10-1.1} [Gilded Games Utility] (gilded-games-util-1.7.10-1.7.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA bspkrsCore{6.16} [bspkrsCore] ([1.7.10]bspkrsCore-universal-6.16.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA Treecapitator{1.7.10} [Treecapitator] ([1.7.10]Treecapitator-universal-2.0.4.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA Baubles{1.0.1.10} [Baubles] (Baubles-1.7.10-1.0.1.10.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA adventurebackpack{1.7.10-0.8b} [Adventure Backpack] (adventurebackpack-1.7.10-0.8b - Copy.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA aether{1.7.10-1.5.1} [Aether II] (aether-1.7.10-1.5.1.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA AnimationAPI{1.2.4} [AnimationAPI] (AnimationAPI-1.7.10-1.2.4.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA Aquaculture{1.2.6} [Aquaculture] (Aquaculture-1.7.10-1.2.6.21.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA thehunt{Pre-Alpha} [The Hunt] (Arkif - The Hunt [1.7.10] [v0.3].jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA Artifacts{1.1.3} [Artifacts] (Artifacts-1.1.3.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA BetterFoliage{1.0.15} [Better Foliage] (BetterFoliage-mc1.7-1.0.15.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA BiomesOPlenty{2.1.0} [Biomes O' Plenty] (BiomesOPlenty-1.7.10-2.1.0.1396-universal.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA birdsnests{1.4} [Bird's Nests] (BirdsNests1.7.10-1.4.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA butterflymania{1.0.1} [Butterfly Mania] (Butterfly-Mania-Mod-1.7.10.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA CosmeticArmor{1.0.5} [Cosmetic Armor] (CosmeticArmor-1.7.10-1.0.5.B8-universal.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA CustomSpawner{3.3.0} [DrZhark's CustomSpawner] (CustomMobSpawner 3.3.0.zip)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA customnpcs{1.7.10d} [CustomNpcs] (CustomNPCs_1.7.10d(29oct17).jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA doggytalents{1.14.2.317} [Doggy Talents] (DoggyTalents-1.7.10-1.14.2.317-universal.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA MoCreatures{6.3.1} [DrZhark's Mo'Creatures Mod] (DrZharks MoCreatures Mod v6.3.1.zip)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA DynamicLights{1.3.8} [Dynamic Lights] (DynamicLights-1.7.10.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA DynamicLights_onFire{1.0.4} [Dynamic Lights Burning Entity Module] (DynamicLights-1.7.10.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA DynamicLights_creepers{1.0.4} [Dynamic Lights Creeper Module] (DynamicLights-1.7.10.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA DynamicLights_dropItems{1.0.8} [Dynamic Lights EntityItem Module] (DynamicLights-1.7.10.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA DynamicLights_entityClasses{1.0.1} [Dynamic Lights Entity Light Module] (DynamicLights-1.7.10.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA DynamicLights_mobEquipment{1.0.8} [Dynamic Lights Mob Equipment Light Module] (DynamicLights-1.7.10.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA DynamicLights_flameArrows{1.0.0} [Dynamic Lights Fiery Arrows Light Module] (DynamicLights-1.7.10.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA DynamicLights_floodLights{1.0.2} [Dynamic Lights Flood Light] (DynamicLights-1.7.10.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA DynamicLights_otherPlayers{1.0.8} [Dynamic Lights OtherPlayers Light Module] (DynamicLights-1.7.10.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA DynamicLights_thePlayer{1.1.4} [Dynamic Lights Player Light Module] (DynamicLights-1.7.10.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA dsurround{1.0.6.3} [Dynamic Surroundings] (DynamicSurroundings-1.7.10-1.0.6.3.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA eplus{3.0.2-d} [Enchanting Plus] (EnchantingPlus-1.7.10-3.0.2-d.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA exoticbirds{1.0} [Exotic Birds] (Exotic+Birds+1.7.10-1.4.6.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA fantastic{1.0.0} [Fantastic Fish] (fantastic-1.4.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA GrimoireOfGaia{1.0.0} [Grimoire of Gaia 3] (GrimoireOfGaia3-1.7.10-1.2.7.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA iChunUtil{4.2.3} [iChunUtil] (iChunUtil-4.2.3.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA LostBooks{1.2.2} [Lost Books] (LostBooks-1.7.10-1.2.2.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA Mantle{1.7.10-0.3.2.jenkins191} [Mantle] (Mantle-1.7.10-0.3.2b.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA RadixCore{2.1.3} [RadixCore] (RadixCore-1.7.10-2.1.3-universal.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA MCA{1.7.10-5.2.2} [Minecraft Comes Alive] (MCA-1.7.10-5.2.2-universal.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA MobAmputation{4.0.1} [MobAmputation] (MobAmputation-4.0.1.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA MobDismemberment{4.0.0} [MobDismemberment] (MobDismemberment-4.0.0.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA cfm{3.4.8} [ยง9MrCrayfish's Furniture Mod] (MrCrayfishFurnitureModv3.4.8(1.7.10).jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA harvestcraft{1.7.10j} [Pam's HarvestCraft] (Pam's HarvestCraft 1.7.10j.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA psychedelicraft{1.5.2} [Psychedelicraft] (Psychedelicraft-1.5.2.jar)
UCHIJAAAAAAAAA realtimeclock{1.7.10-0.1} [Real Time Clock] (RealTimeClock-1.7.10-0.2.jar)
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GL info: ' Vendor: 'NVIDIA Corporation' Version: '4.6.0 NVIDIA 399.24' Renderer: 'GeForce GTX 1060 6GB/PCIe/SSE2'
Mantle Environment: DO NOT REPORT THIS CRASH! Unsupported mods in environment: optifine
TConstruct Environment: Environment healthy.
Launched Version: 1.7.10
LWJGL: 2.9.1
OpenGL: GeForce GTX 1060 6GB/PCIe/SSE2 GL version 4.6.0 NVIDIA 399.24, NVIDIA Corporation
GL Caps: Using GL 1.3 multitexturing.
Using framebuffer objects because OpenGL 3.0 is supported and separate blending is supported.
Anisotropic filtering is supported and maximum anisotropy is 16.
Shaders are available because OpenGL 2.1 is supported.
Is Modded: Definitely; Client brand changed to 'fml,forge'
Type: Client (map_client.txt)
Resource Packs: [Conquest_.zip] Current Language: English (US)
Profiler Position: N/A (disabled)
Vec3 Pool Size: 0 (0 bytes; 0 MB) allocated, 0 (0 bytes; 0 MB) used
Anisotropic Filtering: Off (1)
OptiFine Version: OptiFine_1.7.10_HD_U_E7
Render Distance Chunks: 10
Mipmaps: 4
Anisotropic Filtering: 1
Antialiasing: 0
Multitexture: false
Shaders: Sildurs Vibrant Shaders v1.164 Medium.zip
OpenGlVersion: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 399.24
OpenGlRenderer: GeForce GTX 1060 6GB/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGlVendor: NVIDIA Corporation
CpuCount: 4
Mantle Environment: DO NOT REPORT THIS CRASH! Unsupported mods in environment: optifine
When in doubt remove optifine, Its know to cause crashes. The above is from your crash log.
ok thank you for the information. However, I still want to use shaders
is there a way for 1.7.10?
The error seems to be with how liteloader is handling the packet, have you tried using forge?
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Alright, I tried replacing the optifine with an older version and its still happening...I don't want to give up on using shaders at all
Liteloader? How do I see that I'm using that, because I only use forge
Crash says its on at com.mumfrey.liteloader.client.PacketEventsClient.handlePacket(PacketEventsClient.java:106)
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alright, I deleted this liteloader file and played Minecraft for a while. It worked for a good time and I thought it was solved: but then I get the error where I get logged out of the game (and no crash report comes up because the game just shuts down)
please, can anyone help me? I think it may be due to using mcedit and adding in schematics, but how can I see?