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There you have it.
This is exactly what I am looking at for about two hours now.
The CPU seems working, RAM is changing, nothing seems to be frozen at the time.
But damn.
So now the further Informations.
I use the latest Version of Forge with Optifine and Liteloader for MC 1.10.2.

MC is using 160 Mods at the moment, I always double check and preload every added mod

to see if anything changed. The last time I tried to load a new world it took about 2 minutes with about 155 mods.

I am trying to get a list of all mods, but for now the heaviest mods I got are:

AmbientSounds

Ad Inferos

ArsMagica22

MoCreatures

JurassiCraft

AbyssalCraft

Decocraft

CustomNPC'S

MrCrayFishs Furniture

My settings:

-Xmx6G -Xms1G -Xmn800M -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:+UseNUMA -XX:+CMSParallelRemarkEnabled -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=15 -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=30 -XX:GCPauseIntervalMillis=150 -XX:+UseAdaptiveGCBoundary -XX:-UseGCOverheadLimit -XX:+UseBiasedLocking -XX:SurvivorRatio=8 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=15 -Dfml.ignorePatchDiscrepancies=true -Dfml.ignoreInvalidMinecraftCertificates=true -XX:+UseFastAccessorMethods -XX:+UseCompressedOops -XX:+OptimizeStringConcat -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:ReservedCodeCacheSize=2048m -XX:+UseCodeCacheFlushing -XX:SoftRefLRUPolicyMSPerMB=10000 -XX:ParallelGCThreads=10 -d64

I am letting MC keep loading the new world.
But during that time, I want to discuss it a bit here.

Thank you for your help guys

Quote from KeyEX99»

There you have it.
This is exactly what I am looking at for about two hours now.
The CPU seems working, RAM is changing, nothing seems to be frozen at the time.
But damn.
So now the further Informations.
I use the latest Version of Forge with Optifine and Liteloader for MC 1.10.2.

MC is using 160 Mods at the moment, I always double check and preload every added mod

to see if anything changed. The last time I tried to load a new world it took about 2 minutes with about 155 mods.

I am trying to get a list of all mods, but for now the heaviest mods I got are:

AmbientSounds

Ad Inferos

ArsMagica22

MoCreatures

JurassiCraft

AbyssalCraft

Decocraft

CustomNPC'S

MrCrayFishs Furniture

My settings:

-Xmx6G -Xms1G -Xmn800M -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:+UseNUMA -XX:+CMSParallelRemarkEnabled -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=15 -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=30 -XX:GCPauseIntervalMillis=150 -XX:+UseAdaptiveGCBoundary -XX:-UseGCOverheadLimit -XX:+UseBiasedLocking -XX:SurvivorRatio=8 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=15 -Dfml.ignorePatchDiscrepancies=true -Dfml.ignoreInvalidMinecraftCertificates=true -XX:+UseFastAccessorMethods -XX:+UseCompressedOops -XX:+OptimizeStringConcat -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:ReservedCodeCacheSize=2048m -XX:+UseCodeCacheFlushing -XX:SoftRefLRUPolicyMSPerMB=10000 -XX:ParallelGCThreads=10 -d64

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I am letting MC keep loading the new world.
But during that time, I want to discuss it a bit here.

Thank you for your help guys

Leave the java arguments as default, expect for Xmx that might need to be up to 2GB. Everything else doesnt do what you think, makes it worse or replaces a previous option you set.

Xmx under 6 always result in a java memory error.

Quote from KeyEX99»

Xmx under 6 always result in a java memory error.

because of the other arguments, leave it as default, then increate Xmx as needed, too much it worse than just enough

Quote from urielsalis»

Leave the java arguments as default, expect for Xmx that might need to be up to 2GB. Everything else doesnt do what you think, makes it worse or replaces a previous option you set.

I now stopped the loading and removed everything till -Xmx6G -Xms1G -Xmn800M and try that.

Quote from urielsalis»

because of the other arguments, leave it as default, then increate Xmx as needed, too much it worse than just enough

Hm alright, I am already on my way, atm it loads 3gb ram and is loading the mods with no probs at phase 5/7.

Loading done.

Builds op world, surprisingly the mod loading went way faster.

Atm it uses 5gb ram for world loading.

Ok, world is loaded, again pretty fast.
Just waiting for all the chunks tobe build up.

*Starring at the sky

Took a bit too long, I restarted and removed the other two arguments except xmx.

No it is stuck at loading the mods, keeping 100% cpu at

Loading 7/7

Reloading ModelManager

ModelLoader: blocks - playableitems:block_dragon_(the rest is covered up by the forge logo T_T )

Closed and changed xmx from 3 to 4G.

Retry.

Changing it resulted in a less stressed CPU, faster loading and I got to the title screen now.

Quote from KeyEX99»

Hm alright, I am already on my way, atm it loads 3gb ram and is loading the mods with no probs at phase 5/7.

Loading done.

Builds op world, surprisingly the mod loading went way faster.

Atm it uses 5gb ram for world loading.

Ok, world is loaded, again pretty fast.
Just waiting for all the chunks tobe build up.

*Starring at the sky

Took a bit too long, I restarted and removed the other two arguments except xmx.

No it is stuck at loading the mods, keeping 100% cpu at

Loading 7/7

Reloading ModelManager

ModelLoader: blocks - playableitems:block_dragon_(the rest is covered up by the forge logo T_T )

Closed and changed xmx from 3 to 4G.

Retry.

Changing it resulted in a less stressed CPU, faster loading and I got to the title screen now.

So it works now?

Quote from urielsalis»

So it works now?

Sooo, after about 40 min of Gameplay minecraft starts to get some hard lag peaks.
Five minutes after that the game was unplayable stuttering.

Trying to turn the game off ingame was not able.

Computer froze.
Hard reset.

Meh, everything else is now working like a charm

but I am back at the 30min gameplay problem because of some reason my pc

just starts lagging like hell and freezes while trying to turn off minecraft.

;/

Can you see if CPU or GPU is maxed while that happens? Memory usage using f3 might be helpful too

Quote from urielsalis»

Can you see if CPU or GPU is maxed while that happens? Memory usage using f3 might be helpful too

Alright, I'll do that later on, had to go do some real life boyfriend adult stuff T^T

I make a screenshot, should be enough right, as far as I know you should see everything needed ingame.

Sure

Quote from urielsalis»

Sure

So going to do the test run now.
I also forgot to mention, that the Waila mod seems broken now.
The blue textbox is in the top middle as before, but the given text is now
above each other texts in the top left corner and makes this mod unusable now, sadly.
Screenshot is going up as soon as I reach some lag peaks.

Quote from KeyEX99»

So going to do the test run now.
I also forgot to mention, that the Waila mod seems broken now.
The blue textbox is in the top middle as before, but the given text is now
above each other texts in the top left corner and makes this mod unusable now, sadly.
Screenshot is going up as soon as I reach some lag peaks.

Sure, in imgur.com please

Quote from Thyriel27»

With max 6GB allocated, already 5 being used after a new world is generated and 160 mods it does not wonder me that you can't play for longer then half an hour until it begings to stutter. More mods need more RAM, and the RAM usage goes usually up while playing as a lot of mods are not perfectly flushing their memory and have small memory leaks.

You will either need less mods or more RAM

Thats not how it works. The more RAM you have the longer stutters are. Java uses the GC(Garbage collector) when its past a certain usage, that GC has to freeze everything, clean up, then return. While its doing that, you see a stutter. If you allocate 4GB when you are using 1GB only, then the GC has to freeze and check 4GB of memory instead of just 1GB.

Java also uses another GC that cleans up in another thread while not freezing, something that runs regularly when you are near the limit, but gets lazy and its not run until is too late when you allocate that much, so stutters are more frequent too

Quote from Thyriel27»

That's nice to know, but it doesn't sound like it's related to what i wrote. I suppose that GC is the thing you notice when playing with debug info displayed and you see the RAM usage all the time going up and down pretty fast.
And while that GC is working pretty well in vanilla (at least i never had more RAM used after several hours then soon after launching) there are a lot of mods out there that have issues with their RAM usage. The RAM usage (minimum after it drops again due to GC) is slowly but steady increasing then and after a while playing you end up with more and more RAM being used up. Until you get close to the maximum allocated memory (-Xmx). Then the game begings to stutter heavily as it freezes quite a long time everytime that GC is running.
Simple test so see what i mean: Install 1.10 with agricraft mod (a10 version), plant a field of agricraftcrops and wait 5 minutes while looking at the RAM usage in F3

Thats you not configuring it correctly, you have to fine tune the GC, adding more RAM to the problem doesnt do anything more than delay it

Sry!!

Internet was configured new, more speed and stuff.
Wasn't able to read and upload, going to do it soon.

It is always a wonder how fast a discussion comes up here :'D

Quote from OreCruncher»

Try using FoamFix. It can do wonders if the pack uses lots of models and whatnot.

FoamFix was already in and it realy did it's job good after deleting all those unneded arguments.

Quote from Thyriel27»

With max 6GB allocated, already 5 being used after a new world is generated and 160 mods it does not wonder me that you can't play for longer then half an hour until it begings to stutter. More mods need more RAM, and the RAM usage goes usually up while playing as a lot of mods are not perfectly flushing their memory and have small memory leaks.

You will either need less mods or more RAM

Also began to stutter with only 80 mods around the same amount of mods, so..

Quote from Thyriel27»

That's nice to know, but it doesn't sound like it's related to what i wrote. I suppose that GC is the thing you notice when playing with debug info displayed and you see the RAM usage all the time going up and down pretty fast.
And while that GC is working pretty well in vanilla (at least i never had more RAM used after several hours then soon after launching) there are a lot of mods out there that have issues with their RAM usage. The RAM usage (minimum after it drops again due to GC) is slowly but steady increasing then and after a while playing you end up with more and more RAM being used up. Until you get close to the maximum allocated memory (-Xmx). Then the game begings to stutter heavily as it freezes quite a long time everytime that GC is running.
Simple test so see what i mean: Install 1.10 with agricraft mod (a10 version), plant a field of agricraftcrops and wait 5 minutes while looking at the RAM usage in F3

Sadly yeah, but well, even so another load of 8g ram is on the way, but either way. I'd like to know why and how to avoid it so thanks for all the explanation so far.