I'm currently playing on Beta Version 1.6.5 - yes, I know, practically prehistoric, but I'm working on a couple of very specific projects in my world, have been for years, and updates that came out following that version would have changed or ultimately broken things I'm trying to do. I play offline consistently so I don't even update by accident, and I'm using a Macbook Pro, OSX Yosemite. While trying to continue with my gargantuan project a couple of weeks ago, something I did caused the world to crash; now, every time I try to boot up that world, it immediately crashes, the program report only visible for a split second before the whole window goes black, so I can't even share what the official problem log is. I have a backup of my hard drive from six months ago; reverting to my Minecraft save file as it was back then would cost me some progress, but it's nothing I wouldn't happily redo. Apple technicians, however, are not sure if reverting my hard drive to a backup version from months ago would revert the state of my Minecraft world, given that it's a third-party program. I was advised to ask people more knowledgeable about the subject before doing anything, so here I am.
Again, it's Beta Version 1.6.5, I'm on a Macbook, I will not update (for a number of reasons), and I cannot afford to start over given how much work I've put into what I'm trying to do. All I want to know is if my Minecraft world is saved on my computer's hard drive so that reverting to a backed-up version of the hard drive would revert to an older save file on my Minecraft world; I don't see how that could be affected by what version I'm playing, but I wanted to make it clear anyway. Please and thank you.
I'm currently playing on Beta Version 1.6.5 - yes, I know, practically prehistoric, but I'm working on a couple of very specific projects in my world, have been for years, and updates that came out following that version would have changed or ultimately broken things I'm trying to do. I play offline consistently so I don't even update by accident, and I'm using a Macbook Pro, OSX Yosemite. While trying to continue with my gargantuan project a couple of weeks ago, something I did caused the world to crash; now, every time I try to boot up that world, it immediately crashes, the program report only visible for a split second before the whole window goes black, so I can't even share what the official problem log is. I have a backup of my hard drive from six months ago; reverting to my Minecraft save file as it was back then would cost me some progress, but it's nothing I wouldn't happily redo. Apple technicians, however, are not sure if reverting my hard drive to a backup version from months ago would revert the state of my Minecraft world, given that it's a third-party program. I was advised to ask people more knowledgeable about the subject before doing anything, so here I am.
Again, it's Beta Version 1.6.5, I'm on a Macbook, I will not update (for a number of reasons), and I cannot afford to start over given how much work I've put into what I'm trying to do. All I want to know is if my Minecraft world is saved on my computer's hard drive so that reverting to a backed-up version of the hard drive would revert to an older save file on my Minecraft world; I don't see how that could be affected by what version I'm playing, but I wanted to make it clear anyway. Please and thank you.
If the world not to big (under 300-500Mb) Put the world (u world folder) in an Pack archife (like ZIP,RAR, ACE, 7ZIP) upload it to an filehoster (like https://www.mediafire.com/) and send my the link. I try to fix it for u.
edit profile -> set launcher to hide and re-open on game exit. then you can see the log.
Not sure if this would work if she's using the old launcher.
I'm not so sure this would work for a version that old, but crash reports are stored in .minecraft/crash-reports. Check for the most recent one and do a pastebin link, then we might be able to figure out what's going on.
Not sure if this would work if she's using the old launcher.
I'm not so sure this would work for a version that old, but crash reports are stored in .minecraft/crash-reports. Check for the most recent one and do a pastebin link, then we might be able to figure out what's going on.
Is that online? Because if so, I can tell you right now, the site doesn't recognize my program when I start it up anymore - when trying to figure out what was going on with this, I booted up the game without turning off my internet for the first time in well over a year I think, and when I tried to log in, it said it couldn't connect and I HAD to play offline. That would be great - a relief, even, knowing I can't update by accident - were it not for this problem…Maybe that's why the display only stays up for a split second before going black? This is what I get for being so determined to stay in Beta 1.6.5, I guess. I'm sorry I had to make this so difficult. Specifically, I broke some sandstone to make sand a couple of blocks underwater fall into a skeleton dungeon, that's what crashed everything, if that helps…
Honestly, though, even if we could figure out exactly what the problem was, I'm not sure anything could be done to fix it. I want to know if reverting to a backup version of my hard drive from months ago would revert the save file. Would that work, or no? Again, I don't at all mind losing some progress, I've worked on this for years and a setback of a few months isn't much at this point - it's my own fault for sticking with such an old version anyway - and as far as the rest of the files on my computer go, I've already put everything I'd want to preserve on a flash drive. I just want to get back to work, doing things the hard way.
The icons are also slightly different. The new launcher's icon is a bit brighter looking.
The new launcher allows you to set up profiles so that you can keep using Beta 1.6.5 for your main world, and update to release 1.8.9 for other things.
As for repairing a world that's crashing on startup, the only luck I've ever had is using MCEdit to remove the block that's causing the crash. The only problem is, you have to know which block(s).
einsteinsci is talking about a subfolder inside the .minecraft folder. You'll be happy to know that it isn't stored online, its on your hard drive. And you'll also be happy to know that the Apple technicians you talked to know nothing about computers or how they work. Your minecraft world is saved to your computer. Its inside a subfolder in the .minecraft folder. Even if you don't know how to find it, it is stored on your hard drive, so restoring the backup would restore the world file to the backup point, provided you did a full backup and not just a partial backup.
However, since you probably wouldn't enjoy losing 6 months of work, I'll tell you how to find the world file and the crash report. Here's how to find it on Lion or later, 10.7+ (Not sure where Yosemite falls on this, but I'd assume its after Lion.)
I would advise against this first method, as it will show all the hidden files on your computer.
Open "Terminal" (located at /Applications/Utilities) and execute this command (shows all hidden folders and files): defaults write com.apple.Finder AppleShowAllFiles TRUE
Then in "Terminal" use this command to close your find process: killall Finder
Restart Finder and all hidden folders should now be visible.
Now, in Finder, click on your User folder, then Library, Then Application Support. Your Minecraft folder is listed here.
To hide hidden files/folders in Finder execute this command in Terminal (then restart Finder): defaults write com.apple.Finder AppleShowAllFiles FALSE
Alternatively, you can execute this command from Terminal to open your "Application Support" folder in a Finder window: open ~/Library/Application\ Support/
You can also use this command in Terminal to just unhide the library folder:
chflags nohidden ~/Library
Keep in mind that once you're in Application Support, there is no .minecraft folder. That folder is specific to Windows operating systems. You're looking for a folder called minecraft, without the . in front. Inside there you should find folders called bin, saves, and possibly crash-reports. If the crash-reports folder is in there, please post the crash reports for us so we can help you figure out what's causing the crash.
Hope this helps. And as a future-mistake-proofing tip, I'd recommend becoming familiar with the minecraft folder on your Mac. Once you get the world working again, you can make a copy of your world before playing. If you keep 2 to 3 old copies of the world then you can restore those if you run into future issues. This will only set you back a day or two, instead of a possible 6 months.
einsteinsci is talking about a subfolder inside the .minecraft folder. You'll be happy to know that it isn't stored online, its on your hard drive. And you'll also be happy to know that the Apple technicians you talked to know nothing about computers or how they work. Your minecraft world is saved to your computer. Its inside a subfolder in the .minecraft folder. Even if you don't know how to find it, it is stored on your hard drive, so restoring the backup would restore the world file to the backup point, provided you did a full backup and not just a partial backup.
However, since you probably wouldn't enjoy losing 6 months of work, I'll tell you how to find the world file and the crash report. Here's how to find it on Lion or later, 10.7+ (Not sure where Yosemite falls on this, but I'd assume its after Lion.)
I would advise against this first method, as it will show all the hidden files on your computer.
Open "Terminal" (located at /Applications/Utilities) and execute this command (shows all hidden folders and files): defaults write com.apple.Finder AppleShowAllFiles TRUE
Then in "Terminal" use this command to close your find process: killall Finder
Restart Finder and all hidden folders should now be visible.
Now, in Finder, click on your User folder, then Library, Then Application Support. Your Minecraft folder is listed here.
To hide hidden files/folders in Finder execute this command in Terminal (then restart Finder): defaults write com.apple.Finder AppleShowAllFiles FALSE
Alternatively, you can execute this command from Terminal to open your "Application Support" folder in a Finder window: open ~/Library/Application\ Support/
You can also use this command in Terminal to just unhide the library folder:
chflags nohidden ~/Library
Keep in mind that once you're in Application Support, there is no .minecraft folder. That folder is specific to Windows operating systems. You're looking for a folder called minecraft, without the . in front. Inside there you should find folders called bin, saves, and possibly crash-reports. If the crash-reports folder is in there, please post the crash reports for us so we can help you figure out what's causing the crash.
Hope this helps. And as a future-mistake-proofing tip, I'd recommend becoming familiar with the minecraft folder on your Mac. Once you get the world working again, you can make a copy of your world before playing. If you keep 2 to 3 old copies of the world then you can restore those if you run into future issues. This will only set you back a day or two, instead of a possible 6 months.
Okay, I followed your directions and found the folder, but I can't find anything called "Crash Reports", or even anything remotely resembling that. Given that, what can I do with the files to fix the world? I honestly don't understand what most of the documents in here mean, and under the "region" folder there are about a gazillion of what I assume are chunks…? I've expanded the world to a ridiculous size trying to gather the rare materials I'm using for my project, I'm not sure if that affects anything…this was interesting, though, and I appreciate you leading me this far! I'm just not sure what to do from here. Any further advice?
Okay, I followed your directions and found the folder, but I can't find anything called "Crash Reports", or even anything remotely resembling that. Given that, what can I do with the files to fix the world? I honestly don't understand what most of the documents in here mean, and under the "region" folder there are about a gazillion of what I assume are chunks…? I've expanded the world to a ridiculous size trying to gather the rare materials I'm using for my project, I'm not sure if that affects anything…this was interesting, though, and I appreciate you leading me this far! I'm just not sure what to do from here. Any further advice?
It could also be under 'logs' - that version of minecraft may not actually generate proper crash reports
It could also be under 'logs' - that version of minecraft may not actually generate proper crash reports
Nope, nothing like that at all - there's a folder called "data", which is full of map data; a folder called DIM-1, which is full of what I assume are superchunks or something; a file called level.dat and a file called level.dat_old that I'm afraid to open because they're files; a folder called "region", which is full of the probably-chunks I mentioned in the previous post; and a file called session.lock, which I'm also afraid to open because it's a file. The idea of opening a file from within a bigger program just to see what it is makes me nervous, it feels like taking out part of a machine without knowing what it does or how it goes into the whole…but maybe the session.dat files are what you're looking for, they were made the last two times I booted up the game based on the time stamps. Is it safe to open them? I'm sorry, I'm horrible with computer stuff. V_V
Nope, nothing like that at all - there's a folder called "data", which is full of map data; a folder called DIM-1, which is full of what I assume are superchunks or something; a file called level.dat and a file called level.dat_old that I'm afraid to open because they're files; a folder called "region", which is full of the probably-chunks I mentioned in the previous post; and a file called session.lock, which I'm also afraid to open because it's a file. The idea of opening a file from within a bigger program just to see what it is makes me nervous, it feels like taking out part of a machine without knowing what it does or how it goes into the whole…but maybe the session.dat files are what you're looking for, they were made the last two times I booted up the game based on the time stamps. Is it safe to open them? I'm sorry, I'm horrible with computer stuff. V_V
Oh you're looking inside the save folder! You should be looking in "/Users/(username)/Library/Application Support/minecraft"
Opening any of the files is safe provided you don't edit or save the files once you're done looking inside them. However, opening those files may not always be an easy task. Most of those files are not readable by humans, even if you manage to open them. I believe you are correct about the region files. I know in the current version of minecraft, those files store large sections of chunks, however, you are using an old version that may have predated the whole MCRegion style. Beta 1.6.5 isn't really really old though, so there is a good chance it might be saved using MCRegion.
Unfortunately, I'm not very knowledgeable about map repair; I took the back up often and don't worry about having to fix it approach. You could try making a copy of your save on your desktop and compressing it as Ritter_Kaldor suggested. Make sure you copy the save data, and not cut it. If you cut it, then you're essentially moving the file, but copying it will create another version of it. That way if you mess up something during compression it won't have any affect on the world. Once its compressed, I'd suggest having Ritter_Kaldor take a look at it.
Oh you're looking inside the save folder! You should be looking in "/Users/(username)/Library/Application Support/minecraft"
Ah. Yes…in the entire minecraft folder, there are files called ".DS_Store", "options.txt", and "lastlogin"; there are also folders called "bin", "resources", "saves", "screenshots", "stats", and "texture packs". Again, nothing remotely resembling "crash reports", unless that "lastlogin" file is it…do you want me to open that?
Opening any of the files is safe provided you don't edit or save the files once you're done looking inside them. However, opening those files may not always be an easy task. Most of those files are not readable by humans, even if you manage to open them. I believe you are correct about the region files. I know in the current version of minecraft, those files store large sections of chunks, however, you are using an old version that may have predated the whole MCRegion style. Beta 1.6.5 isn't really really old though, so there is a good chance it might be saved using MCRegion.
Unfortunately, I'm not very knowledgeable about map repair; I took the back up often and don't worry about having to fix it approach. You could try making a copy of your save on your desktop and compressing it as Ritter_Kaldor suggested. Make sure you copy the save data, and not cut it. If you cut it, then you're essentially moving the file, but copying it will create another version of it. That way if you mess up something during compression it won't have any affect on the world. Once its compressed, I'd suggest having Ritter_Kaldor take a look at it.
Thank you. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to compress OR back up anything - like I said, I'm horrible with computers, that's why I use a Mac. V_V
Ah. Yes…in the entire minecraft folder, there are files called ".DS_Store", "options.txt", and "lastlogin"; there are also folders called "bin", "resources", "saves", "screenshots", "stats", and "texture packs". Again, nothing remotely resembling "crash reports", unless that "lastlogin" file is it…do you want me to open that?
try the 'stats' folder, since that seems to be the only folder remotely close to a 'crash reports' or 'logs' folder.
try the 'stats' folder, since that seems to be the only folder remotely close to a 'crash reports' or 'logs' folder.
Umm…"stats_player_unsent.dat" and "stats_player_unsent.old" were made around the time I last tried to play - there are two other files from two years ago, I doubt they're relevant. Should I look at these?
Umm…"stats_player_unsent.dat" and "stats_player_unsent.old" were made around the time I last tried to play - there are two other files from two years ago, I doubt they're relevant. Should I look at these?
nope. looks like that version of minecraft doesn't save logs.
nope. looks like that version of minecraft doesn't save logs.
Oh. Okay then - thank you for leading me through these files in any case, it's been very educational. Without the log, is there anything else I can do? Or should I just restore my old hard drive? If the latter, I would really appreciate instructions on how to copy my Minecraft world in case this happens again. Also, that copy and compress and send thing would be a bit much for me to try, I don't trust myself even with the most detailed instructions for something like that…again, I'm sorry for making this difficult. V_V Thank you again for all your help either way, though!
I'm currently playing on Beta Version 1.6.5 - yes, I know, practically prehistoric, but I'm working on a couple of very specific projects in my world, have been for years, and updates that came out following that version would have changed or ultimately broken things I'm trying to do. I play offline consistently so I don't even update by accident, and I'm using a Macbook Pro, OSX Yosemite. While trying to continue with my gargantuan project a couple of weeks ago, something I did caused the world to crash; now, every time I try to boot up that world, it immediately crashes, the program report only visible for a split second before the whole window goes black, so I can't even share what the official problem log is. I have a backup of my hard drive from six months ago; reverting to my Minecraft save file as it was back then would cost me some progress, but it's nothing I wouldn't happily redo. Apple technicians, however, are not sure if reverting my hard drive to a backup version from months ago would revert the state of my Minecraft world, given that it's a third-party program. I was advised to ask people more knowledgeable about the subject before doing anything, so here I am.
Again, it's Beta Version 1.6.5, I'm on a Macbook, I will not update (for a number of reasons), and I cannot afford to start over given how much work I've put into what I'm trying to do. All I want to know is if my Minecraft world is saved on my computer's hard drive so that reverting to a backed-up version of the hard drive would revert to an older save file on my Minecraft world; I don't see how that could be affected by what version I'm playing, but I wanted to make it clear anyway. Please and thank you.
If the world not to big (under 300-500Mb) Put the world (u world folder) in an Pack archife (like ZIP,RAR, ACE, 7ZIP) upload it to an filehoster (like https://www.mediafire.com/) and send my the link. I try to fix it for u.
Oh, it's much too big - over 2,000MB. Like I said, I've been working on it for years. V_V Thank you anyway.
edit profile -> set launcher to hide and re-open on game exit. then you can see the log.
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Not sure if this would work if she's using the old launcher.
I'm not so sure this would work for a version that old, but crash reports are stored in .minecraft/crash-reports. Check for the most recent one and do a pastebin link, then we might be able to figure out what's going on.
If it have not to mutch big chunk files it will go down to 500Mb after using RAR Compressing.
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If the problem are only an defect level.dat file the file that i sand back is only some KB big.
If u have the time upload the world (but pleas as on compress file) and give my some time to Download and fix it.
Is that online? Because if so, I can tell you right now, the site doesn't recognize my program when I start it up anymore - when trying to figure out what was going on with this, I booted up the game without turning off my internet for the first time in well over a year I think, and when I tried to log in, it said it couldn't connect and I HAD to play offline. That would be great - a relief, even, knowing I can't update by accident - were it not for this problem…Maybe that's why the display only stays up for a split second before going black? This is what I get for being so determined to stay in Beta 1.6.5, I guess. I'm sorry I had to make this so difficult. Specifically, I broke some sandstone to make sand a couple of blocks underwater fall into a skeleton dungeon, that's what crashed everything, if that helps…
Honestly, though, even if we could figure out exactly what the problem was, I'm not sure anything could be done to fix it. I want to know if reverting to a backup version of my hard drive from months ago would revert the save file. Would that work, or no? Again, I don't at all mind losing some progress, I've worked on this for years and a setback of a few months isn't much at this point - it's my own fault for sticking with such an old version anyway - and as far as the rest of the files on my computer go, I've already put everything I'd want to preserve on a flash drive. I just want to get back to work, doing things the hard way.
The new launcher looks like this:
And the old one looks like this:
The icons are also slightly different. The new launcher's icon is a bit brighter looking.
The new launcher allows you to set up profiles so that you can keep using Beta 1.6.5 for your main world, and update to release 1.8.9 for other things.
As for repairing a world that's crashing on startup, the only luck I've ever had is using MCEdit to remove the block that's causing the crash. The only problem is, you have to know which block(s).
einsteinsci is talking about a subfolder inside the .minecraft folder. You'll be happy to know that it isn't stored online, its on your hard drive. And you'll also be happy to know that the Apple technicians you talked to know nothing about computers or how they work. Your minecraft world is saved to your computer. Its inside a subfolder in the .minecraft folder. Even if you don't know how to find it, it is stored on your hard drive, so restoring the backup would restore the world file to the backup point, provided you did a full backup and not just a partial backup.
However, since you probably wouldn't enjoy losing 6 months of work, I'll tell you how to find the world file and the crash report. Here's how to find it on Lion or later, 10.7+ (Not sure where Yosemite falls on this, but I'd assume its after Lion.)
I would advise against this first method, as it will show all the hidden files on your computer.
Open "Terminal" (located at /Applications/Utilities) and execute this command (shows all hidden folders and files): defaults write com.apple.Finder AppleShowAllFiles TRUE
Then in "Terminal" use this command to close your find process: killall Finder
Restart Finder and all hidden folders should now be visible.
Now, in Finder, click on your User folder, then Library, Then Application Support. Your Minecraft folder is listed here.
To hide hidden files/folders in Finder execute this command in Terminal (then restart Finder): defaults write com.apple.Finder AppleShowAllFiles FALSE
Alternatively, you can execute this command from Terminal to open your "Application Support" folder in a Finder window: open ~/Library/Application\ Support/
You can also use this command in Terminal to just unhide the library folder:
chflags nohidden ~/Library
Keep in mind that once you're in Application Support, there is no .minecraft folder. That folder is specific to Windows operating systems. You're looking for a folder called minecraft, without the . in front. Inside there you should find folders called bin, saves, and possibly crash-reports. If the crash-reports folder is in there, please post the crash reports for us so we can help you figure out what's causing the crash.
Hope this helps. And as a future-mistake-proofing tip, I'd recommend becoming familiar with the minecraft folder on your Mac. Once you get the world working again, you can make a copy of your world before playing. If you keep 2 to 3 old copies of the world then you can restore those if you run into future issues. This will only set you back a day or two, instead of a possible 6 months.
Okay, I followed your directions and found the folder, but I can't find anything called "Crash Reports", or even anything remotely resembling that. Given that, what can I do with the files to fix the world? I honestly don't understand what most of the documents in here mean, and under the "region" folder there are about a gazillion of what I assume are chunks…? I've expanded the world to a ridiculous size trying to gather the rare materials I'm using for my project, I'm not sure if that affects anything…this was interesting, though, and I appreciate you leading me this far! I'm just not sure what to do from here. Any further advice?
It could also be under 'logs' - that version of minecraft may not actually generate proper crash reports
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Nope, nothing like that at all - there's a folder called "data", which is full of map data; a folder called DIM-1, which is full of what I assume are superchunks or something; a file called level.dat and a file called level.dat_old that I'm afraid to open because they're files; a folder called "region", which is full of the probably-chunks I mentioned in the previous post; and a file called session.lock, which I'm also afraid to open because it's a file. The idea of opening a file from within a bigger program just to see what it is makes me nervous, it feels like taking out part of a machine without knowing what it does or how it goes into the whole…but maybe the session.dat files are what you're looking for, they were made the last two times I booted up the game based on the time stamps. Is it safe to open them? I'm sorry, I'm horrible with computer stuff. V_V
Oh you're looking inside the save folder! You should be looking in "/Users/(username)/Library/Application Support/minecraft"
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Opening any of the files is safe provided you don't edit or save the files once you're done looking inside them. However, opening those files may not always be an easy task. Most of those files are not readable by humans, even if you manage to open them. I believe you are correct about the region files. I know in the current version of minecraft, those files store large sections of chunks, however, you are using an old version that may have predated the whole MCRegion style. Beta 1.6.5 isn't really really old though, so there is a good chance it might be saved using MCRegion.
Unfortunately, I'm not very knowledgeable about map repair; I took the back up often and don't worry about having to fix it approach. You could try making a copy of your save on your desktop and compressing it as Ritter_Kaldor suggested. Make sure you copy the save data, and not cut it. If you cut it, then you're essentially moving the file, but copying it will create another version of it. That way if you mess up something during compression it won't have any affect on the world. Once its compressed, I'd suggest having Ritter_Kaldor take a look at it.
Ah. Yes…in the entire minecraft folder, there are files called ".DS_Store", "options.txt", and "lastlogin"; there are also folders called "bin", "resources", "saves", "screenshots", "stats", and "texture packs". Again, nothing remotely resembling "crash reports", unless that "lastlogin" file is it…do you want me to open that?
Thank you. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to compress OR back up anything - like I said, I'm horrible with computers, that's why I use a Mac. V_V
try the 'stats' folder, since that seems to be the only folder remotely close to a 'crash reports' or 'logs' folder.
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Umm…"stats_player_unsent.dat" and "stats_player_unsent.old" were made around the time I last tried to play - there are two other files from two years ago, I doubt they're relevant. Should I look at these?
nope. looks like that version of minecraft doesn't save logs.
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Oh. Okay then - thank you for leading me through these files in any case, it's been very educational. Without the log, is there anything else I can do? Or should I just restore my old hard drive? If the latter, I would really appreciate instructions on how to copy my Minecraft world in case this happens again. Also, that copy and compress and send thing would be a bit much for me to try, I don't trust myself even with the most detailed instructions for something like that…again, I'm sorry for making this difficult. V_V Thank you again for all your help either way, though!