Alright guys I have owned minecraft since infdev when it cost me a measly $5, and I have never been so frustrated and confuzed with this game. I used to play minecraft on an old crappy desktop from 2003, but a few months ago I bought a new laptop, a Dell Inspiron 17R with an i7 core which I thougth would run games like minecraft smoothly. So, after a few months of strait league of legends, I have been getting back into minecraft basically for the sole purpose of The Survival Games, they are a lot of fun and ive been doing rather well in them the last week I've been playing them.
However, after around 5 or 6 days of playing minecraft with around 60 fps consistently and loving every minute of it, suddenly after hopping into a server my FPS randomly drops down to 7-12 fps! It was the strangest thing because it happened so suddenly, I had been playing in a game around 2 minutes prior to hopping into this server, running at 50-60 fps smoothly.
Now for the past few days I have had 7-12 fps consistenly on single player or multi player servers. Please note that the FPS and performance drop has exclusively effected Minecraft, no other game including League of Legends or Prototype 2 have displayed an FPS drop of any sort, only minecraft has shown a drop in FPS.
STEPS I HAVE TAKEN TO ATTEMPT TO RAISE MY FPS, NONE OF WHICH HAVE WORKED:
-I have lowered all the Minecraft video settings.
-Installed optifine to see if it helped. It didn't even after lowering all the optifine settings.
-installed newest versions of java
-uninstalled and reinstalled minecraft
-dedicated around 4 times more ram then it was using before
-set the priority of minecraft to very high in task manager
-closed all background programs, this means the only open program was minecraft itself
-bashed my head into a wall
-shut my laptop down for 1/2 a day to let it cool down
-took a long bowel movement while sitting like the thinking man
-played single player to see if the FPS would eventually rise. After 3 hours. No.
-played different games and waited 4 days to see if eventually it would correct itself
---- there are probably more steps to get my fps to raise I have left out ----
Please help me out Minecraftians and Good samaritans of this fine block world!! The hunger games and my youtube channel depend on it!
Here is a video of one of my Survival games matches, running around 3 programs in the background, including skype AND fraps, no optifine and pretty good video settings enabled, running around 50-60 fps all game...
EDIT: Well, as I said, I've been around since infdev and I am in no way giving up on this game, and here are my current findings in my pursuit to make the game more playable, and overall more enjoyable:
-Majority of last 2-3 weeks: 5-15 FPS with random spikes of dropping to 2 fps and even rarer spikes of jumping to 100+ fps for around a couple seconds
-About a week ago I am at one of my family member's house a couple cities away with my laptop and I notice my Minecraft is running smooth as silk at 40-70 FPS - weird.
-I go home later that night to find my FPS has dropped back down to 5-15 FPS
-Yesterday I start the game, find out that I still have very low very spiky FPS even with opifine on and with smooth fps and chunk loading.
-Later that day I go over to one of my buddy's for a league of legends and mcsg trio team with another one of our buddies.
-I find that my Minecraft FPS is running on around 50-70 FPS as it use to run on. It does this all night and into the morning when we wake up and continue to play some games, it is still on the 50-70 FPS.
-I go home, today, currently to find my FPS back down to 5-15. I think to myself, maybe, just maybe, even thought it shouldn't be or have anything to do with my FPS, Maybe its my internet connection.
-I unconnect my wireless signal to my laptop so that I have no internet at all, and start up my Minecraft, entering my singleplayer world I find I'm back up to 50-70 FPS, HUH!
-I reconnect my internet, and open up minecraft, aaaaannnnd back down to 5-15. Wooptydoo.
SO in conclusion, I have no idea why my internet has anything to do with how my minecraft runs, but this is getting weird, and now I am finding myself out of my usual comfort zone when it comes to my (in)extensive computer knowledge and jurisdiction. Help me out, I hope its not just Mojang that can help me on this one, otherwise I fear I'll be in the dark for a long long time.
GG
edit: Attempts that do not work:
-moving closer/farther away from my router
-using a wired connection to my laptop from my router
-pulling my hair out.
Are you sure that Minecraft isn't using your i7's graphics all of a sudden? If you're sure that it isn't...
Try allocating LESS RAM to Minecraft!
Try using Optifine!!
Idk how to tell if it is or isnt using my i7s graphics.. but ok I allocated less ram and that did nothing.. and I already stated ive tried optifine. Im currently using it.
You and I have the same problem friend. I've done everything you listed plus fiddling with 64 and 32 bit Java runtimes, JDK's and the graphics trick. Our problem is nVidia graphics cards running on Optimus Technology (laptops) aren't assigning the GPU to Java. Thus your game is running on your integrated card and not your GPU.
My next phases of troubleshooting are;
Reinstall the nVidia drivers over a fresh install of Java7.
Retest the GPU Program Settings. Because currently even with "Always use GPU" it isn't using it for Java.
Download and test the linux Minecraft version.
Kill everyone I love.
Hopefully I never reach stage 4. I'll keep you informed after my coffee.
Note: Java7v7 used to work on Minecraft. Its only now, with Java7v9 and Minecraft 1.4.2 that this issue is occurring.
Okay so none of those options worked. I couldn't even kill my family. So I soldiered on and guess what!? It's fixed. Working 100%, no FPS drops nothing. So here's what you you should try:
Extract/Install. Do complete install and select the rewrite/new install etc. option (I forgot what its called).
Open nVidia Control Panel. Select Desktop in the top left. Check "Display GPU Activity in notification area", "Add "Run with Graphics Processor etc." and you might as well check off "Show notification tray icon" as the GPU Activity is just superior.
This will enable you to check games at a glance. If the black box in your notification area turns chromatic your GPU is active. Now, I changed no settings. Left it on auto decide. If Minecraft or MultiMC doesn't light up your taskbar, right-click and select "Run with High Performance Graphics Card". You done son.
The Why: Certain graphic drivers are modified for laptops but recently it's started to become irrelevant. What happens is your driver tries to auto-update to the newest version, updating the laptop driver with desktop drivers. This causes two problems:
Your driver can display as the newest version but actually can be much older.
nVidia Control Panel screws up and doesn't remember program profiles.
NB: I have yet to tell nVidia to auto-run GPU on MultiMC.
Okay so none of those options worked. I couldn't even kill my family. So I soldiered on and guess what!? It's fixed. Working 100%, no FPS drops nothing. So here's what you you should try:
Extract/Install. Do complete install and select the rewrite/new install etc. option (I forgot what its called).
Open nVidia Control Panel. Select Desktop in the top left. Check "Display GPU Activity in notification area", "Add "Run with Graphics Processor etc." and you might as well check off "Show notification tray icon" as the GPU Activity is just superior.
This will enable you to check games at a glance. If the black box in your notification area turns chromatic your GPU is active. Now, I changed no settings. Left it on auto decide. If Minecraft or MultiMC doesn't light up your taskbar, right-click and select "Run with High Performance Graphics Card". You done son.
The Why: Certain graphic drivers are modified for laptops but recently it's started to become irrelevant. What happens is your driver tries to auto-update to the newest version, updating the laptop driver with desktop drivers. This causes two problems:
Your driver can display as the newest version but actually can be much older.
nVidia Control Panel screws up and doesn't remember program profiles.
NB: I have yet to tell nVidia to auto-run GPU on MultiMC.
Thats great and all, but I dont have an nvidia graphics card
Bump still need help. Now it jumps from 5-12 FPS for a few days and then for 1 night I'll have my 60 fps back and play just fine its really weird guys help me out!
I have a Ati Radeon X1600. Mac OSX snow leopard 10.6.8.
3 gb ram. Nothing fancy
Pre 1.4 I was running just fine. around 20-45 fps
I have tried everything you have CaptainMKirk with no fix either. Also I tried editing the "Options.txt" file in the minecraft folder. I changed the "fps limit" which is default at 1 to 20. It helps for a while but performance still drops to unplayable levels after a few minutes. I think quite a few people, even with super computers are having performance issues with MC since the latest patch. Lets hope Mojang addresses the issue. Its been posted on their bug tracker a few times. Not sure if they are taking it seriously tho with some of the immature posters. I love this game but, the support for it seems lacking at this point.
Captain, I don't think anyone knows specifically what the problem or solution is yet. Some people have it and some don't. Changing every setting to high or low doesn't do anything. The FPS seems to always start high and end up sitting somewhere very low. 10-15 for me. Mojang will either acknowledge the issue and fix it in a future patch or, choose to ignore it. They already have our money what do they care. Its been posted multiple times in their bug tracker. All of the cases are unresolved. We can only sit, wait and hope.
I find single player to be fairly playable still. Multiplayer servers seem to have decreasing performance issues. Relogging seems to temporarily bump the fps. Id say I reconnect about 4 times an hour.
Captain. Try to find out specifically under what circumstances your games performance drops. Maby we can find something out through common variables. Or even uncommon. Lets not give up and such an awesome game
Captain, I don't think anyone knows specifically what the problem or solution is yet. Some people have it and some don't. Changing every setting to high or low doesn't do anything. The FPS seems to always start high and end up sitting somewhere very low. 10-15 for me. Mojang will either acknowledge the issue and fix it in a future patch or, choose to ignore it. They already have our money what do they care. Its been posted multiple times in their bug tracker. All of the cases are unresolved. We can only sit, wait and hope.
I find single player to be fairly playable still. Multiplayer servers seem to have decreasing performance issues. Relogging seems to temporarily bump the fps. Id say I reconnect about 4 times an hour.
Captain. Try to find out specifically under what circumstances your games performance drops. Maby we can find something out through common variables. Or even uncommon. Lets not give up and such an awesome game
Well, as I said, I've been around since infdev and I am in no way giving up on this game, and here are my current findings in my pursuit to make the game more playable, and overall more enjoyable:
-Majority of last 2-3 weeks: 5-15 FPS with random spikes of dropping to 2 fps and even rarer spikes of jumping to 100+ fps for around a couple seconds
-About a week ago I am at one of my family member's house a couple cities away with my laptop and I notice my Minecraft is running smooth as silk at 40-70 FPS - weird.
-I go home later that night to find my FPS has dropped back down to 5-15 FPS
-Yesterday I start the game, find out that I still have very low very spiky FPS even with opifine on and with smooth fps and chunk loading.
-Later that day I go over to one of my buddy's for a league of legends and mcsg trio team with another one of our buddies.
-I find that my Minecraft FPS is running on around 50-70 FPS as it use to run on. It does this all night and into the morning when we wake up and continue to play some games, it is still on the 50-70 FPS.
-I go home, today, currently to find my FPS back down to 5-15. I think to myself, maybe, just maybe, even thought it shouldn't be or have anything to do with my FPS, Maybe its my internet connection.
-I unconnect my wireless signal to my laptop so that I have no internet at all, and start up my Minecraft, entering my singleplayer world I find I'm back up to 50-70 FPS, HUH!
-I reconnect my internet, and open up minecraft, aaaaannnnd back down to 5-15. Wooptydoo.
SO in conclusion, I have no idea why my internet has anything to do with how my minecraft runs, but this is getting weird, and now I am finding myself out of my usual comfort zone when it comes to my (in)extensive computer knowledge and jurisdiction. Help me out, I hope its not just Mojang that can help me on this one, otherwise I fear I'll be in the dark for a long long time.
GG
edit: Attempts that do not work:
-moving closer/farther away from my router
-using a wired connection to my laptop from my router
-pulling my hair out.
However, after around 5 or 6 days of playing minecraft with around 60 fps consistently and loving every minute of it, suddenly after hopping into a server my FPS randomly drops down to 7-12 fps! It was the strangest thing because it happened so suddenly, I had been playing in a game around 2 minutes prior to hopping into this server, running at 50-60 fps smoothly.
Now for the past few days I have had 7-12 fps consistenly on single player or multi player servers. Please note that the FPS and performance drop has exclusively effected Minecraft, no other game including League of Legends or Prototype 2 have displayed an FPS drop of any sort, only minecraft has shown a drop in FPS.
STEPS I HAVE TAKEN TO ATTEMPT TO RAISE MY FPS, NONE OF WHICH HAVE WORKED:
-I have lowered all the Minecraft video settings.
-Installed optifine to see if it helped. It didn't even after lowering all the optifine settings.
-installed newest versions of java
-uninstalled and reinstalled minecraft
-dedicated around 4 times more ram then it was using before
-set the priority of minecraft to very high in task manager
-closed all background programs, this means the only open program was minecraft itself
-bashed my head into a wall
-shut my laptop down for 1/2 a day to let it cool down
-took a long bowel movement while sitting like the thinking man
-played single player to see if the FPS would eventually rise. After 3 hours. No.
-played different games and waited 4 days to see if eventually it would correct itself
---- there are probably more steps to get my fps to raise I have left out ----
Please help me out Minecraftians and Good samaritans of this fine block world!! The hunger games and my youtube channel depend on it!
Here is a video of one of my Survival games matches, running around 3 programs in the background, including skype AND fraps, no optifine and pretty good video settings enabled, running around 50-60 fps all game...
EDIT:
Well, as I said, I've been around since infdev and I am in no way giving up on this game, and here are my current findings in my pursuit to make the game more playable, and overall more enjoyable:
-Majority of last 2-3 weeks: 5-15 FPS with random spikes of dropping to 2 fps and even rarer spikes of jumping to 100+ fps for around a couple seconds
-About a week ago I am at one of my family member's house a couple cities away with my laptop and I notice my Minecraft is running smooth as silk at 40-70 FPS - weird.
-I go home later that night to find my FPS has dropped back down to 5-15 FPS
-Yesterday I start the game, find out that I still have very low very spiky FPS even with opifine on and with smooth fps and chunk loading.
-Later that day I go over to one of my buddy's for a league of legends and mcsg trio team with another one of our buddies.
-I find that my Minecraft FPS is running on around 50-70 FPS as it use to run on. It does this all night and into the morning when we wake up and continue to play some games, it is still on the 50-70 FPS.
-I go home, today, currently to find my FPS back down to 5-15. I think to myself, maybe, just maybe, even thought it shouldn't be or have anything to do with my FPS, Maybe its my internet connection.
-I unconnect my wireless signal to my laptop so that I have no internet at all, and start up my Minecraft, entering my singleplayer world I find I'm back up to 50-70 FPS, HUH!
-I reconnect my internet, and open up minecraft, aaaaannnnd back down to 5-15. Wooptydoo.
SO in conclusion, I have no idea why my internet has anything to do with how my minecraft runs, but this is getting weird, and now I am finding myself out of my usual comfort zone when it comes to my (in)extensive computer knowledge and jurisdiction. Help me out, I hope its not just Mojang that can help me on this one, otherwise I fear I'll be in the dark for a long long time.
GG
edit:
Attempts that do not work:
-moving closer/farther away from my router
-using a wired connection to my laptop from my router
-pulling my hair out.
Idk how to tell if it is or isnt using my i7s graphics.. but ok I allocated less ram and that did nothing.. and I already stated ive tried optifine. Im currently using it.
STILL 7 FPS
My next phases of troubleshooting are;
- Reinstall the nVidia drivers over a fresh install of Java7.
- Retest the GPU Program Settings. Because currently even with "Always use GPU" it isn't using it for Java.
- Download and test the linux Minecraft version.
- Kill everyone I love.
Hopefully I never reach stage 4. I'll keep you informed after my coffee.Note: Java7v7 used to work on Minecraft. Its only now, with Java7v9 and Minecraft 1.4.2 that this issue is occurring.
- Download http://forums.laptopvideo2go.com/topic/29840-v30697-windows-8-64bit-nvidia-oem-mobile/. The entire driver is what I did, but the INF rewrite also works if you can't download 170mb.
- Extract/Install. Do complete install and select the rewrite/new install etc. option (I forgot what its called).
- Open nVidia Control Panel. Select Desktop in the top left. Check "Display GPU Activity in notification area", "Add "Run with Graphics Processor etc." and you might as well check off "Show notification tray icon" as the GPU Activity is just superior.
This will enable you to check games at a glance. If the black box in your notification area turns chromatic your GPU is active. Now, I changed no settings. Left it on auto decide. If Minecraft or MultiMC doesn't light up your taskbar, right-click and select "Run with High Performance Graphics Card". You done son.The Why: Certain graphic drivers are modified for laptops but recently it's started to become irrelevant. What happens is your driver tries to auto-update to the newest version, updating the laptop driver with desktop drivers. This causes two problems:
- Your driver can display as the newest version but actually can be much older.
- nVidia Control Panel screws up and doesn't remember program profiles.
NB: I have yet to tell nVidia to auto-run GPU on MultiMC.Thats great and all, but I dont have an nvidia graphics card
3 gb ram. Nothing fancy
Pre 1.4 I was running just fine. around 20-45 fps
I have tried everything you have CaptainMKirk with no fix either. Also I tried editing the "Options.txt" file in the minecraft folder. I changed the "fps limit" which is default at 1 to 20. It helps for a while but performance still drops to unplayable levels after a few minutes. I think quite a few people, even with super computers are having performance issues with MC since the latest patch. Lets hope Mojang addresses the issue. Its been posted on their bug tracker a few times. Not sure if they are taking it seriously tho with some of the immature posters. I love this game but, the support for it seems lacking at this point.
I find single player to be fairly playable still. Multiplayer servers seem to have decreasing performance issues. Relogging seems to temporarily bump the fps. Id say I reconnect about 4 times an hour.
Captain. Try to find out specifically under what circumstances your games performance drops. Maby we can find something out through common variables. Or even uncommon. Lets not give up and such an awesome game
Well, as I said, I've been around since infdev and I am in no way giving up on this game, and here are my current findings in my pursuit to make the game more playable, and overall more enjoyable:
-Majority of last 2-3 weeks: 5-15 FPS with random spikes of dropping to 2 fps and even rarer spikes of jumping to 100+ fps for around a couple seconds
-About a week ago I am at one of my family member's house a couple cities away with my laptop and I notice my Minecraft is running smooth as silk at 40-70 FPS - weird.
-I go home later that night to find my FPS has dropped back down to 5-15 FPS
-Yesterday I start the game, find out that I still have very low very spiky FPS even with opifine on and with smooth fps and chunk loading.
-Later that day I go over to one of my buddy's for a league of legends and mcsg trio team with another one of our buddies.
-I find that my Minecraft FPS is running on around 50-70 FPS as it use to run on. It does this all night and into the morning when we wake up and continue to play some games, it is still on the 50-70 FPS.
-I go home, today, currently to find my FPS back down to 5-15. I think to myself, maybe, just maybe, even thought it shouldn't be or have anything to do with my FPS, Maybe its my internet connection.
-I unconnect my wireless signal to my laptop so that I have no internet at all, and start up my Minecraft, entering my singleplayer world I find I'm back up to 50-70 FPS, HUH!
-I reconnect my internet, and open up minecraft, aaaaannnnd back down to 5-15. Wooptydoo.
SO in conclusion, I have no idea why my internet has anything to do with how my minecraft runs, but this is getting weird, and now I am finding myself out of my usual comfort zone when it comes to my (in)extensive computer knowledge and jurisdiction. Help me out, I hope its not just Mojang that can help me on this one, otherwise I fear I'll be in the dark for a long long time.
GG
edit:
Attempts that do not work:
-moving closer/farther away from my router
-using a wired connection to my laptop from my router
-pulling my hair out.