Did anyone realize that there are actually 3 forms of exodia?
-Exodia the Forbidden One
-Exodius the Ultimate Forbidden Lord
-Exodia Necross
All of these are in the first two series. Necross is terrible, you need to have a whole deck built around it to make it work, seeing as you have to have all 5 in your grave to summon him as well as a spell card, "Contract with Exodia".
Did anyone realize that there are actually 3 forms of exodia?
-Exodia the Forbidden One
-Exodius the Ultimate Forbidden Lord
-Exodia Necross
All of these are in the first two series. Necross is terrible, you need to have a whole deck built around it to make it work, seeing as you have to have all 5 in your grave to summon him as well as a spell card, "Contract with Exodia".
By your logic, most cards, and most decks, suck. Lightsworns need you to build around lightsworns, inzektors need you to build around inzektors, Judgment Dragon, the most Broken card in the game, needs you to build around lightsworns. Dark Armed Dragon, an extremely powerful/broken card, requires a build that can fit its high needs(Being able to control your graveyard, and dark monsters) to ever fit in your deck. Synchros and Xyz, which we've all agreed are ridiculously broken, require you run a deck based around them, or they just don't work that way. Ultimate Axon Kicker, a 2900 that is immune to traps, pierces, and heals you, requires a deck that is run around synchros AND fusion in order to be used. E Heros will never work unless you run your deck around them. Shi En requires a deck run around Six Sams.
You saying ALL OF THOSE suck?
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By your logic, most cards, and most decks, suck. Lightsworns need you to build around lightsworns, inzektors need you to build around inzektors, Judgment Dragon, the most Broken card in the game, needs you to build around lightsworns. Dark Armed Dragon, an extremely powerful/broken card, requires a build that can fit its high needs(Being able to control your graveyard, and dark monsters) to ever fit in your deck. Synchros and Xyz, which we've all agreed are ridiculously broken, require you run a deck based around them, or they just don't work that way. Ultimate Axon Kicker, a 2900 that is immune to traps, pierces, and heals you, requires a deck that is run around synchros AND fusion in order to be used. E Heros will never work unless you run your deck around them. Shi En requires a deck run around Six Sams.
You saying ALL OF THOSE suck?
He means you have to build a whole deck around one card all those decks will have many cards and options to play.
I have to disagree with synchros and xyz being broken they have good effects sure but the better ones have costs you have to pay. Besides you need 2+ monsters for synchros and one of them have to be a tuner at that, and you need 2/3 monsters for xyzs so you have to already have mosters out and you have to get rid of more than you get so I can't see how they are broken.
He means you have to build a whole deck around one card all those decks will have many cards and options to play.
I have to disagree with synchros and xyz being broken they have good effects sure but the better ones have costs you have to pay. Besides you need 2+ monsters for synchros and one of them have to be a tuner at that, and you need 2/3 monsters for xyzs so you have to already have mosters out and you have to get rid of more than you get so I can't see how they are broken.
Yes, thank you for clearing that up. Also, seeing as you can only have 1 of each exodia part, it would be a pain to get them all in the grave. However, people just load their decks with three of special summonable tuners, which basically makes everything crazy. I agree about the Axon Kicker thing, that is just OP. Even though the requirements are high, those are easily met using the right deck.
Yes, thank you for clearing that up. Also, seeing as you can only have 1 of each exodia part, it would be a pain to get them all in the grave. However, people just load their decks with three of special summonable tuners, which basically makes everything crazy. I agree about the Axon Kicker thing, that is just OP. Even though the requirements are high, those are easily met using the right deck.
He means you have to build a whole deck around one card all those decks will have many cards and options to play.
I have to disagree with synchros and xyz being broken they have good effects sure but the better ones have costs you have to pay. Besides you need 2+ monsters for synchros and one of them have to be a tuner at that, and you need 2/3 monsters for xyzs so you have to already have mosters out and you have to get rid of more than you get so I can't see how they are broken.
There are cards that special summon themselves just by you summoning another monster. There are monsters that special summon by having no monsters on the field. There are monsters that special summon by Discarding, Drawing, having monsters in the grave, removing monsters from the grave, synchroing, xyzing,and just because they can be there. Draw power is huge. The 2+ monsters is not an issue. Compare these cards:
Superconductor Tyranno.
Effect Monster.
2 monsters required.
3300 ATK
Once per turn, can inflict 1000 points of damage, but can't attack that turn.
Cannot be summoned the same turn as the monsters you need to sacrifice without additional support.
Naturia Barkion
Synchro Monster
2 Earth monsters required. (Not an issue, since it's the most common element in the game)
2500 ATK
Can negate traps, except counter traps(Which includes Solemn Judgment, Solemn Warning, but does NOT include Mirror Force, Dimensional Prison, Magic Cylinder, Raigeki Break, Phoenix Wing Wind Blast, Icarus Attack, etc), by discarding two cards from your deck to the graveyard(Which the majority of players regard a good thing). Also note that the traps you negate still have to be payed for by the player.
CAN be played the same turn as it's materials without additional support.
Photon Strike Bounzer
Xyz Monster
2 level 6 Monsters required.
2700 ATK
Twice while on the field, can negate the effect of a monster when it activates, AND inflict 1000 points of damage. Compare to Superconductor Tyranno, which cannot attack after it's effect, while this card can.
CAN be summoned the same turn as it's materials without additional support.
Tell me. Which one seems the weakest? Which monster is the best option to include in a deck that can use it? Do any of the monsters seem to be considerably more powerful than the others? Which ones can be summoned on the first turn, and how easily? What is the lifespan of each card?
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There are cards that special summon themselves just by you summoning another monster. There are monsters that special summon by having no monsters on the field. There are monsters that special summon by Discarding, Drawing, having monsters in the grave, removing monsters from the grave, synchroing, xyzing,and just because they can be there. Draw power is huge. The 2+ monsters is not an issue. Compare these cards:
Superconductor Tyranno.
Effect Monster.
2 monsters required.
3300 ATK
Once per turn, can inflict 1000 points of damage, but can't attack that turn.
Cannot be summoned the same turn as the monsters you need to sacrifice without additional support.
Naturia Barkion
Synchro Monster
2 Earth monsters required. (Not an issue, since it's the most common element in the game)
2500 ATK
Can negate traps, except counter traps(Which includes Solemn Judgment, Solemn Warning, but does NOT include Mirror Force, Dimensional Prison, Magic Cylinder, Raigeki Break, Phoenix Wing Wind Blast, Icarus Attack, etc), by discarding two cards from your deck to the graveyard(Which the majority of players regard a good thing). Also note that the traps you negate still have to be payed for by the player.
CAN be played the same turn as it's materials without additional support.
Photon Strike Bounzer
Xyz Monster
2 level 6 Monsters required.
2700 ATK
Twice while on the field, can negate the effect of a monster when it activates, AND inflict 1000 points of damage. Compare to Superconductor Tyranno, which cannot attack after it's effect, while this card can.
CAN be summoned the same turn as it's materials without additional support.
Tell me. Which one seems the weakest? Which monster is the best option to include in a deck that can use it? Do any of the monsters seem to be considerably more powerful than the others? Which ones can be summoned on the first turn, and how easily? What is the lifespan of each card?
I like you picked one of the worst non synchro/xyz monster for this example also how many decks run those 2 monster very few photon is a rank 6(a uncommonly used level) and i see very few deck that run Naturia synchros one of them being six sams.
Six sams is already a great deck.... using naturia barkon with it would basically win you the game. About Tyranno, he just picked that because it needs two monsters to summon. Another example would be sacred pheonix of nepthys, easily powered up with equip spells so it isnt destroyed by battle, and if destroyed by effect comes back and destroys all spell and traps, leaving no resistance.
6 sams are good but I have said this before and I will say it again I beat decks that pump out either xyzs or synchros, and sometimes both all the time with older decks not elemental heros though becuase I don't like the deck and the deck I use most often is venom so if a venom deck can beat say rescue rabbit they can't be that bad now can they.
as ive said I use a deck for negating effects so what decks will everyone go for once they really start getting their cards
Elemental heros and dragons earlier it was said we would be using a old ban list and I think red-eyes darkness metal dragon will be at 3 these will be most likely the decks most people will try to make. I will be going for a few diffrent decks venom,dragon,amazoness and a few others I like to have options with my deck choices.
-Exodia the Forbidden One
-Exodius the Ultimate Forbidden Lord
-Exodia Necross
All of these are in the first two series. Necross is terrible, you need to have a whole deck built around it to make it work, seeing as you have to have all 5 in your grave to summon him as well as a spell card, "Contract with Exodia".
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Retired StaffBy your logic, most cards, and most decks, suck. Lightsworns need you to build around lightsworns, inzektors need you to build around inzektors, Judgment Dragon, the most Broken card in the game, needs you to build around lightsworns. Dark Armed Dragon, an extremely powerful/broken card, requires a build that can fit its high needs(Being able to control your graveyard, and dark monsters) to ever fit in your deck. Synchros and Xyz, which we've all agreed are ridiculously broken, require you run a deck based around them, or they just don't work that way. Ultimate Axon Kicker, a 2900 that is immune to traps, pierces, and heals you, requires a deck that is run around synchros AND fusion in order to be used. E Heros will never work unless you run your deck around them. Shi En requires a deck run around Six Sams.
You saying ALL OF THOSE suck?
Would you rather read a story of knights and dragons, or be in one?
I'm glad people support my dragon raising. Could I ask for assistance with this one now?
Check out my dragon scroll(http://dragcave.net/user/Heric) if you want to see the dragons I have. I may get more dragons later.
He means you have to build a whole deck around one card all those decks will have many cards and options to play.
I have to disagree with synchros and xyz being broken they have good effects sure but the better ones have costs you have to pay. Besides you need 2+ monsters for synchros and one of them have to be a tuner at that, and you need 2/3 monsters for xyzs so you have to already have mosters out and you have to get rid of more than you get so I can't see how they are broken.
Yes, thank you for clearing that up. Also, seeing as you can only have 1 of each exodia part, it would be a pain to get them all in the grave. However, people just load their decks with three of special summonable tuners, which basically makes everything crazy. I agree about the Axon Kicker thing, that is just OP. Even though the requirements are high, those are easily met using the right deck.
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Retired StaffThere are cards that special summon themselves just by you summoning another monster. There are monsters that special summon by having no monsters on the field. There are monsters that special summon by Discarding, Drawing, having monsters in the grave, removing monsters from the grave, synchroing, xyzing,and just because they can be there. Draw power is huge. The 2+ monsters is not an issue. Compare these cards:
Superconductor Tyranno.
Effect Monster.
2 monsters required.
3300 ATK
Once per turn, can inflict 1000 points of damage, but can't attack that turn.
Cannot be summoned the same turn as the monsters you need to sacrifice without additional support.
Naturia Barkion
Synchro Monster
2 Earth monsters required. (Not an issue, since it's the most common element in the game)
2500 ATK
Can negate traps, except counter traps(Which includes Solemn Judgment, Solemn Warning, but does NOT include Mirror Force, Dimensional Prison, Magic Cylinder, Raigeki Break, Phoenix Wing Wind Blast, Icarus Attack, etc), by discarding two cards from your deck to the graveyard(Which the majority of players regard a good thing). Also note that the traps you negate still have to be payed for by the player.
CAN be played the same turn as it's materials without additional support.
Photon Strike Bounzer
Xyz Monster
2 level 6 Monsters required.
2700 ATK
Twice while on the field, can negate the effect of a monster when it activates, AND inflict 1000 points of damage. Compare to Superconductor Tyranno, which cannot attack after it's effect, while this card can.
CAN be summoned the same turn as it's materials without additional support.
Tell me. Which one seems the weakest? Which monster is the best option to include in a deck that can use it? Do any of the monsters seem to be considerably more powerful than the others? Which ones can be summoned on the first turn, and how easily? What is the lifespan of each card?
Would you rather read a story of knights and dragons, or be in one?
I'm glad people support my dragon raising. Could I ask for assistance with this one now?
Check out my dragon scroll(http://dragcave.net/user/Heric) if you want to see the dragons I have. I may get more dragons later.
That is what has already been said.
I like you picked one of the worst non synchro/xyz monster for this example also how many decks run those 2 monster very few photon is a rank 6(a uncommonly used level) and i see very few deck that run Naturia synchros one of them being six sams.
Elemental heros and dragons earlier it was said we would be using a old ban list and I think red-eyes darkness metal dragon will be at 3 these will be most likely the decks most people will try to make. I will be going for a few diffrent decks venom,dragon,amazoness and a few others I like to have options with my deck choices.