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Quote from Martyn559

Same with the arena the classes thing is getting to be big as said before by others there are set classes for the race you want to be and if you don't like the class join another race ...maybe it would be good to have the assassins but they would be over powered and un- realistic as for putting a bounty out on people that would make more sence.

how would assassins be over powered and unrealistic?

Quote from Blue_Elemental

wats the ip?

they're still building it, not public quite yetone more rebel till they're maxed!

Quote from ShinyEspeolution_7566

Hmmm? I don't think I highlighted Four Kingdoms... I don't even think I had Four Kingdoms in there :/

Did anyone else notice that the map has a slight resemblance to Japan in shape?

I think when you search a topic, it highlights it. For example, when you search "Four Kingdoms" it highlights it, I could be wrong though.
And I just noticed the resemblance the Map has with Japan xD

LOL, I just realized that I had the Undead and the Dwarves in the wrong places in my mental map. *headdesk* xD

What, no nightly census from Espeon?

I'm still wondering whether or not the main gameplay will be in Adventure Mode or not. I feel that, (like in Minez) it would encourage more exploration of the land, and also would create more focus on the actual gameplay. If freebuilding was allowed across the server, then i think it would degenerate into the generic Factions PvP kinda thing.

For anyone who's played on a MineZ server before, it shifts the focus alot more from doing things by yourself, to "how will i survive today, who do i trust, and how do I achieve this goal" It can create alot more teamwork and growth together. Try it out, you'll see you skeptics.

Adventure Mode would also would encourage a better Economy. Insteaod of mining and farming everything yourself, you would have too think "where can i trade for this, how can i get the most money from this" and money will be something to be saved and considered.

Thi i just how i view things. I hope these suggestions are taken into consideration.

you could press that green arrow ---------------------------------------->

-Nom

Tyyr please check your skype for messages from proskillgod, there are numerous amounts of responses/concerns about the server. I have explained some of the possible things that can be created and things that cannot be used, also I created a idea and talked about it with Cj, by the looks of it Cj has not notified you of this idea. Please check your Skype messages from proskillgod immediately, thank you for your corporation.

-proskillgod

And just for the sake of making sure you get it, I'll be posting the ideas here:

Few points to clear up in the chat when i was reading it
mnmaxon and homebrewds, Mnmaxon is our plugin coder just a fyi and homebrewds is helping me build justa fyi

Residence is a bit complicated to use, just telling you
And I allways assumed that diamonds would be allowed and enchantments banned
going to be a whole lot simpler to code
Mnmaxon is allready haveing a slightly difficult time coding the plugin
If we ban diamonds I will need mnmaxon to rewrite the world generation code
limited enchantments, I don't think we can do that at all unless we modify the client
and one more thing
GET SOMEONE TO MAKE A WEBSITE

I have a sugestion to ban natuarly generating ores
and put in "caves" which have ores that regenerate
this will help combat x'ray
Get someone to work on something as a global flexible economy
that works with stock/demand
you can only sell stuff when someone requests your item

ban the ability to craft weponds/armor
and make npcs/certain people who choose to become a smither do it
These "Smithers" will gain the ablility to choose how many "Exp" Points they wish to forge into the item
Depending on the amount of levels they put into the item the enchanted level will vary

^ oh and always feel free to criticize my ideas and give suggestions.

We still have a bad incoming people rate... *cries*

Population Changes:
+1 Human: gabrieldumi

Population Overall:
Population Overall:
Elves: 11: CJkirocracer, 4everlink, Monekybanana, Martyn559, Popinjazz, questorhank/Four_Kingdoms_Domo, LizardlyPepper, Thunderthehorse, TookieMonster1, Papasmurf1017, me!
Humans: 9: Tyyr, Z3r05t4r, Link55, Yaddie, McCar14, xmoonx03, Helcahun, Adam1998815, gabrieldumi!
Undead: 8: imVultra, Stormbolt, PwnageBacon, twentyfour77, pizzatiger, iluvmining, Dec6eption, Zombie7575!
Dwarves: 10: Thedesstroier, Bithindel, ike709, Minenut1, Samesquirrel, A_Fruitbowl, bengalspd, moly2355, Gobby28, a_slice_of_toast!
Rebels: 4: Ravenide, MrOmNom, DogsRNice, michaelc166!
Undecided: 3: LadyNarwhal, roddy116, JHLO!
Overall: 45 people! Whoooo! Great to have everyone with us.

THERE'S ONLY ONE MORE SPOT ON TEAM REBELS! Reserve yourself a place TODAY! Just leave your IGN and what race you want to be!
Sorry about no census last night, I did a post before I got around to my homework then spent up to 3 in the morning working on my Minecraft Rube Goldberg Machine of Science. It was a pretty bad fail, I didn't even get the finale on my iTouch (I was using my iTouch to record it lol). Hopefully it gets a decent grade, my science teacher is really cool

Anywho, we hit 45 people! We only need 5 more to hit 50! If you are post #50, you will automatically be the only person entered to get a really, really cool prize! (probably a nonsensical PM from me or something lol). So... yeah, post it here xD

Quote from psgts

^ oh and always feel free to criticize my ideas and give suggestions.

*begins writing down a fifty page essay about the flaws in your ideas*

JK, they're all pretty cool to me

I'd like to switch from undecided to rebel, please.
Does this count as a population increase?

Quote from psgts

^ oh and always feel free to criticize my ideas and give suggestions.

I support your call for Tyyr.
I was just wondering what Residence is (sounds like a plugin)
Diamonds just don't seem realistic. Gold could be changed to be stronger than iron. Overall, it's just gives it a more meieval based feel.

I feel that certain things should get enchantments, like Bows, so Elves could be renowned for their "Elven Bows" which would be the only way you could get an enchantment on your bow.

I suggest you guys look into the NPC Plugin. (dont know real name) Its a plugin that can create Player NPC's, which can be set to do give quests and things like that.

If you want to see it, Savage Realms has a RPG server that uses it.

To GOBBY: thanks?

Feel free to criticize this forever and ever till the nether freezes over.

I like your idea of regenerating mines (If you've been on a Prison server before, they have mines that reset every half hour. Just a 40x40x40 cube of stone with randomized ores tossed in.

I think the dwarves should have the Inherant Skill of Blacksmithing. So only dwarves will be able to craft armor and wepons above stone and leather.

Each race/Empire should have an Inherant Skill, that no other race has, which would stimulate trading and the economy.

Leather should be alot more accessible, because leather armor should be the most the easiest to get (and it can be dyed a different color for each faction).

I liek the "Smithers" idea. But, if you want to learn the "smithing" skill, you must go to the Dwarfs NPC teacher to learn, and to do that, you would have to be allies (or not at war)

The same would go for all the other Races. Each race would have a certain skill (or skills) that they can teach. Then each Empire would have to consider if War is a good alternative or not. POLITICS

For instance:Elves can teach Bow Crafting/Crop Farming
Dwarves can teach Smithering.
Humans can teach Animal Domestication (for leather and food)
Undead can teach...(fill in the blank)

Quote from ShinyEspeolution_7566

Yes, but the trees pigs cows etc. would give less credits than the PvP arena, so doing the Gladiator work would help you get out faster. But now I'm getting beside the point: we already have a group for rulebreakers, the Rebels. This is rather obsoleted when you consider that... Oh, and if you initiate combat on another group's land and they kill you, then you aren't allowed to /petition them. Or the /petition command could be like a /ticket (goes straight to an Admin's inbox so they can reply to you as fast as possible) something like:

Bob the Elf is killed by John the Undead in Elven territory.
Bob types: /petition I was killed by John the Undead while I was in my territory. I request a battle.
If the Admins think that the server needs a bit of spice, then they can accept the battle. If not, they can reply "no" and nothing happens. Also, the leaders of both factions are alerted and may deal with it as they please.

Or:

Bob the Elf attempts to assassinate John the Undead in revenge in Elven territory.
John types: /petition I was killed by Bob the Elf. I request a battle.
The Admin notices that the petition lacks a location of death, so asks John and Bob where the fight occured. He finds out that it happened in Elven territory, so he puts John in jail for a while as punishment.

The passage through Hell only happens when you die in a large-scale battle, but skirmishes and assassinations don't have to go through Hell.


Good to see some Anovians coming in!

wait who are you?

Quote from LadyNarwhal

I'd like to switch from undecided to rebel, please.
Does this count as a population increase?

No, it is a Population Change. At the moment, you are an Undecided, but are still a part of the overall group. I'll put you in tonight's census

Quote from ShinyEspeolution_7566

No, it is a Population Change. At the moment, you are an Undecided, but are still a part of the overall group. I'll put you in tonight's census

you were from anovia? sorry if i dont remember you lol. its been a while.

Quote from kingsmurf1017

wait who are you?

Hah! I'm pinkrats xD My other account had several... umm... bans/reports, I guess, stacked on from a heated debate between me and a server admin. In my defense, I say that it was ridiculously unfair- it was a semi-RPG/adventure thing with "event" people and stuff. I was getting totally screwed over by an "invincible" mob, so I asked a higher-ranked person for help. While I was running, I accidentally turned on my caps-lock, so it turned out all caps. He banned me for that, and we took it to the MCForums. I lost control of my shitty temper, and I hate it when that happens. Regardless to say, I lost the debate xD

I have seen many Ideas but I Disagree with only certain people being able to do certain things. It's true it would stimulate the economy but say no smiters or dwarves are on? My vote is for certain groups are better at doing certain things, for example, for Humans or Elves Crops grow faster and give more drops, and for Dwarves Each time you get 2 chestplates Etc for 8 iron instead of one Etc. Also I believe MrNomNom stated that since there are no enchants Elves with archery would have a problem LOL, I completely agree, my solution is give Elves an Mcmmo Type skill, not the one where you level up but one where A bow for Elves does Extra damage and has a chance to light Enemies on fire etc, same with humans and swords and dwarves with axes. Maybe there could be An npc that teacher you clans skill to you? Kinda of like a night in training, or maybe tips that pop up in the chat, and the better you get and you clans weapon the higher status (really getting carried away lol)? Since E

Quote from Z3r05t4r

Two things:

1. WoT (Wall of Text).
2. Please read or re-read what I wrote and what MrOmNom wrote.

By "limited enchants" do you mean that there would be extremely rare Enchanting Tables scattered around in dungeons or something?

Quote from ShinyEspeolution_7566

Hah! I'm pinkrats xD My other account had several... umm... bans/reports, I guess, stacked on from a heated debate between me and a server admin. In my defense, I say that it was ridiculously unfair- it was a semi-RPG/adventure thing with "event" people and stuff. I was getting totally screwed over by an "invincible" mob, so I asked a higher-ranked person for help. While I was running, I accidentally turned on my caps-lock, so it turned out all caps. He banned me for that, and we took it to the MCForums. I lost control of my shitty temper, and I hate it when that happens. Regardless to say, I lost the debate xD

pinkrats!! i kno you haha. are you working for this server now? whats new?

Quote from ShinyEspeolution_7566

By "limited enchants" do you mean that there would be extremely rare Enchanting Tables scattered around in dungeons or something?

I think its just only certain enchantements will be available to certain races :/

Quote from Z3r05t4r

I have asked Tyyr about several things, which have been running around recently.

1. Diamonds won't be available.
2. Enchantments limited.
3. Iron Bars/Grates as base-material for chainmail would be a rather good idea (It fits, doesn't it?).

For your ideas Nomnom:

The Elven Bow Enchantments are a good idea. I'd support that, to have bows crafted by Elves with minor enchantments.

The NPC question is something for its own, I don't mind to have NPCs.

Regenerating mines seem fair to me. To avoid the immense "uglyfication" of the landscape.

For the Dwarves, I'd say they should be the only ones able to craft Gold Tools and Armor, Weapons likewise. As for Iron, only the dwarves would be allowed to craft Iron Picks, Shovels and Hoes. Armor, Swords and Axes should be open for all other nations, to have it balanced in terms of warfare. Otherwise the Dwarves could try to monopolize on Iron tools and have a strong force whilst Elves, Undeads and Humans are roaming around in Leather and Stone. Chainmail Armor exclusive for Dwarves then though. Stronger than Leather, lighter than Iron.

For the rest, I generally agree.

Just to confirm this, Chain is WEAKER than IRON. so, just as in medieval times, it should be easier to make chain mail than it is to make full iron armor (correct me if im wrong, but one usually sees grunts and footmen in chain, whilst Knights are decked out in full iorn glory)

So, i think dwarves should be able to have the Inherant skill of Iron and Gold Smithing.

But chain and leather shoudl be open for all. Also, if one made a recipe using iron grates for chain, it would be ALOT more economical for armor crafting.

So, from what i read above, Enchanting Tables will be available.
In that case, they would be very highly valued. It would be cool to see a select few towns or strongholds with only one enchanting table.

They could be the whole basis of a war, over who gets the town with the power to ENCHANT.

A forgotten Relic made with the GOD-CRYSTAL: DIAMOND

Sorry, just got a little Lore-y there. Enchantming tables will be something to consider.

-Nom

P.S. have you been in contact with Tyyr recently?

i think chain mail should automaticly reduce arrow damage a little, cuz wasn't it a very good guard vs arrows?

Quote from MrOmNom

Just to confirm this, Chain is WEAKER than IRON. so, just as in medieval times, it should be easier to make chain mail than it is to make full iron armor (correct me if im wrong, but one usually sees grunts and footmen in chain, whilst Knights are decked out in full iorn glory)

So, i think dwarves should be able to have the Inherant skill of Iron and Gold Smithing.

But chain and leather shoudl be open for all. Also, if one made a recipe using iron grates for chain, it would be ALOT more economical for armor crafting.

So, from what i read above, Enchanting Tables will be available.
In that case, they would be very highly valued. It would be cool to see a select few towns or strongholds with only one enchanting table.

They could be the whole basis of a war, over who gets the town with the power to ENCHANT.

A forgotten Relic made with the GOD-CRYSTAL: DIAMOND

Sorry, just got a little Lore-y there. Enchantming tables will be something to consider.

-Nom

P.S. have you been in contact with Tyyr recently?

Untrue...Chain has the purpose for stopping swords and slicing damage. The plate on knights you see if used for stopping arrows and bolts which chain does not do. Those knights that you see who wear plate will almost always have chain underneath. The full weight of armor for a knight was 80+ which caused them to be slow.

Secondly to accurately project these characteristics of the armor types in minecraft major coding changes would be needed and very intense adminship.

Just shedding some light on it.