ViceroyCraft is a 20-slot factions survival server, where players have the choice of creating a competitive faction where they wage war against other factions, or request that their faction be granted peaceful status, and have their land safeguarded by Worldguard. Raiding of unprotected land is allowed. The rules are fairly loose, but hacking is not tolerated in the slightest. Besides the faction plugin, and a few other miscellaneous plugins, the server is completely vanilla. No economy, minigames, or any of that silly stuff. Purely minecraft. The map is 1.3.1, and is has been largely pregenerated to minimize lag. It consists of a large central island that acts as a safe zone, with many other islands, and two continents. 6 large dungeons are hidden throughout the world.
We have a forum at viceroycraft.freeforums.org, and a Facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/pages/ViceroyCraft-Factions-SMP/453817437972282 On both pages, you can request for worldguard protection, and for your faction to be peaceful. Only a peaceful faction can have worldguard protection granted.
The server is located in the United Kingdom. Anyone from around the world is welcome, but English is the official language of the server, and playing from a far location may result in undesired latency.
If anyone is experiencing any problems, or would like to make a reccomendation, please let me know. This server is rather young, and admittedly may have issues.
Puggle, you're unbanned, but just realize that not everyone is going to agree with your religious beliefs. This isn't a mission project, and not everyone is going to want to hear about Christianity. I understand that you feel you have a duty to "save" people, but not everyone is going to want that. Just play minecraft, without stuff like that.
I'd give 2 stars for this server. I would give it 1, but for the effort and the work put into this server, I gave you an extra star.
Puggle, you're just mad because you were raided, and don't agree with the religious beliefs of some of the players. Before you got into a religious argument, you were talking about how much you liked the server. You even edited your posts to make it look like you never liked the server in the first place. I've tried to be polite, but at this point, the only thing I have to tell you is to grow up. I also find it rather funny how you played the victim, but told everyone they were "going to hell." Maybe I shouldn't have convinced Lemon_of_Fire to unban you, since now I'm starting to agree with him; you're a jerk.
Remember, every time you complain about the server, you're bumping the thread, allowing more people to see it.
1. Boohoo, we all had that, and you know what? I loved it.
2. The economy is player based. My shop is a trading post, not server ran. The thought that my shop should be taken down for any reason is dumb, especially in a PVP/Raiding Server.
3. To say Jesus loves you, when he's dead and there is no true proof that he can possible love anyone in his state implies that Christianity is true and is a form of pushing your own beliefs onto us.
4. Holy hell, have you even read a book? Open a biology book, sweet mother of jesus!
5. I didn't ban you. Also, yes, i virtually killed your brother... *Virtually* It's a game. I asked him to stop being annoying, and he wouldnt. So i killed him. Think of it as a life lesson. Better him learn this way than get sucker punched being cocky in real life, right?
6. This is pointless.
7. Way to play the lesser of two evils. This is about you, not wampers.
8. Can we rule you out? There's another rule to "lock us in", whatever that means.
9. If we had more mods, you probably wouldn't be here.
10. Considering you have to cross a long-ass PVP-Protected Bridge, and walk INTO my shop, to be in my territory, (That i claimed from wilderness, not from the spawn area), killing who i want seems pretty damn reasonable.
11. I would show more love to fake people. And, no one here is cold, we just have a strict zero tolerance no-stupidity rule. It's unwritten.
12. Personal attacks, giving no real critique, and just bashing someone for who they are personally. Because thats what Christ would do, right?
13. My dock is bigger than yours.
14. What? Stop being silly. Minecraft is MeinKraft is MindCrapht.
15. Get-get-get-get-get over it.
Jesus Christ get over yourself. We don't hate you for your beliefs. We hate you because yout talk about it too damn much.
This is spoilered to prevent a massive wall of text
In response to your 15 complaints/suggestions
1. Thats not my problem.
2. Thats a player based economy. I only said I didn't want a plugin managed economy. I don't deal with "shop scamming." If you trust someone on a PVP server, thats your own problem.
3. I never told you to not talk about Jesus. The "no religious debates" rule only came up because everyone was bickering about it. People can talk about anything on this server, I just don't want people arguing constantly.
4. Thats not how evolution works. Research it before criticizing it.
5. That has nothing to do with me, Lemon, or the server.
6. No it doesnt.
7. Army wasn't hacking, stop trying to say that. NoCheat blocks hacks, and alerts me when people are hacking. There are currently 37 players banned for hacking, so don't try to say we aren't strict about it.
8. Not quite sure what you mean by that. I'm happy where they are at the moment.
9. We may add more moderators, but without a more powerful server, you can't really stop xrayers unless you can monitor players 24/7. If they want to use it and make the game less fun, thats their own problem. Granted we do ban players when we catch them xraying, theres not much we can do.
10. There are no longer worldguard regions on nonpeaceful faction shops. Either way, nobody is forcing you to go into them.
11. Its a PVP server for goodness sake. Yes, I do care about the players. Yes, I will occasionally help them out. No, I will not give them back their inventory after someone kills them.
12. Fleecy and I have known Lemon for about a year and a half now. Granted he should probably more lenient on bans, but he is fairly mature.
13. I'm sure the tiny dock that took all of 5 minutes makes us a terrible server.
14. Perhaps you don't know what "vanilla" means. I don't want to add any gimmicky plugins. Factions serves primarily as a user-based grief prevention system here. I'm not adding anything. We may have a new map eventually, where I may build up the spawn.
15. Whatever.
In response to non-bulleted stuff
Here you go again. Of course Science isn't religious. Atheism, or at least by definition of the word, is just not believing in any God. Thats different from being against religion, which is Antitheism. You're entitled to your opinion on evolution, and I'm entitled to my opinion on it as well.
I wouldn't have cared at all if you griefed! Its a factions server, we allow that! If you had spammed, or threatened me, that would have simply resulted in a mute and jailing. No, you're not a victim. Stop feeling sorry for yourself. I unbanned you because I thought what Lemon did wasn't really the fairest thing to do.
You may not have intentionally started it, but you did.
If you would like to actually mention what rules should be changed, go ahead. All you've done is said that they need to be changed. Fleecy and many of the other admins aren't online frequently because we are rather busy with school, or work. Yes, I can read the chat logs. Yes, lemon did contribute to the flame war. Yes, it would not have fully gone off without him. But you have just as much play in it as he did. Both sides of this argument were rather rude to eachother. This is an online game, people are not guaranteed to be nice to eachother. Lemon is more qualified to be an admin than the others, because he has played with us since early 2011. Once again, Lemon did not ban you for your beliefs. You never stated any facts, only opnions. No, its not racism. Racism would be if I banned for for being of a certain race.
Here's how it started, if you want to see.
2012-08-28 01:21:49 [INFO] <**Defias crossbowsftw> an antiswearing plugin would be kinda silly
2012-08-28 01:21:57 [INFO] <**Defias crossbowsftw> Since a great deal of us are in highschool
2012-08-28 01:21:57 [INFO] <*phapsters McNuggetRage> that would be soo gay
2012-08-28 01:21:59 [INFO] <PrimedTNT Bobabob8> i think you should
2012-08-28 01:22:02 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> i know cross, but swearing is more annoying it seems
2012-08-28 01:22:05 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> I like to say whatever the **** i want.
2012-08-28 01:22:11 [INFO] <PrimedTNT Bobabob8> just a suggestion
2012-08-28 01:22:11 [INFO] <**Defias crossbowsftw> just /ignore people you dont want to see
2012-08-28 01:22:12 [INFO] <**Slackas semism> it would be ****ing useless
2012-08-28 01:22:22 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> it wouldn't be useless
2012-08-28 01:22:29 [INFO] [PLAYER_COMMAND] nicktheslayer: /home
2012-08-28 01:22:32 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> its hatred towards the world
2012-08-28 01:22:37 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> alright, its ioen
2012-08-28 01:22:39 [INFO] <**Defias crossbowsftw> not really
2012-08-28 01:22:42 [INFO] <*Defias Lemon_of_Fire> no
2012-08-28 01:22:43 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> open
2012-08-28 01:22:53 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> bob, if you're just sezieruing
2012-08-28 01:22:54 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> leave
2012-08-28 01:22:55 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> why would you allow such a terrible thing towards god
2012-08-28 01:22:58 [INFO] <*Defias Lemon_of_Fire> what you talkin bout willis!
2012-08-28 01:22:59 [INFO] <PrimedTNT Bobabob8> lol
2012-08-28 01:23:03 [INFO] <**Defias crossbowsftw> not eveyrone believes in god
2012-08-28 01:23:07 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> ill kill you bob
2012-08-28 01:23:08 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> haha but i do
2012-08-28 01:23:08 [INFO] <PrimedTNT Bobabob8> WHAT
2012-08-28 01:23:10 [INFO] <*Defias Lemon_of_Fire> like me
2012-08-28 01:23:12 [INFO] <PrimedTNT Bobabob8> me too
2012-08-28 01:23:13 [INFO] <*Defias ~AceGhost230> i do, in 360,000,000
2012-08-28 01:23:15 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> welll its not really hatred
2012-08-28 01:23:23 [INFO] /94.231.106.109:38276 lost connection
2012-08-28 01:23:31 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> cussing is not evil
2012-08-28 01:23:37 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> but its kinda disturbing
2012-08-28 01:23:38 [INFO] <PrimedTNT Bobabob8> do you want steak nick?
2012-08-28 01:23:40 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> Im an atheist, with better morals than most religious people i know.
2012-08-28 01:23:40 [INFO] <*Defias Lemon_of_Fire> if anything its a very informal way of talking
2012-08-28 01:23:43 [INFO] [PLAYER_COMMAND] nicktheslayer: /back
2012-08-28 01:23:51 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> nick rreally?
2012-08-28 01:23:58 [INFO] [PLAYER_COMMAND] nicktheslayer: /back
2012-08-28 01:24:00 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> yep
2012-08-28 01:24:02 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> haha wow
2012-08-28 01:24:07 [INFO] <PrimedTNT Bobabob8> i'm leaving this world.
2012-08-28 01:24:07 [INFO] [NoCheatPlus] Tsm20 failed NoFall: tried to avoid fall damage for ~4.11 block(s). VL 2.
2012-08-28 01:24:13 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> why dont you think there is a god nick?
2012-08-28 01:24:16 [INFO] [PLAYER_COMMAND] Bobabob8: /spawn
2012-08-28 01:24:18 [INFO] <*Defias ~AceGhost230> i believe in 360,000,000 gods
2012-08-28 01:24:19 [INFO] [PLAYER_COMMAND] semism: /f home
2012-08-28 01:24:19 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> its impossible for a big band
2012-08-28 01:24:19 [INFO] <**Defias crossbowsftw> oh boy here we go
2012-08-28 01:24:22 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> Because rape, the holocaust
2012-08-28 01:24:24 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> bang
2012-08-28 01:24:25 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> jersey shore
2012-08-28 01:24:31 [INFO] <*phapsters McNuggetRage> Puggly everyone has their own beliefs
2012-08-28 01:24:31 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> etc
2012-08-28 01:24:33 [INFO] [PLAYER_COMMAND] Bobabob8: /f home
2012-08-28 01:24:35 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> haha nick your into the worldly things
2012-08-28 01:24:38 [INFO] <**Defias crossbowsftw> ./religion debate
2012-08-28 01:24:41 [INFO] <*Defias ~AceGhost230> hahahahaha
2012-08-28 01:24:42 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> no god, who loves us, would allow that.
2012-08-28 01:24:44 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> i know
2012-08-28 01:24:52 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> so if there is a god.. hes kinda a *****, xD
2012-08-28 01:24:53 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> nick, sin entered the world because of us
2012-08-28 01:24:53 [INFO] <**Defias crossbowsftw> I dont really believe that I do bad things because some woman ate a bad apple
2012-08-28 01:24:54 [INFO] <*Defias Lemon_of_Fire> dont talk about religion and politics if you want to keep friends
2012-08-28 23:43:27 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> If people were athiests, most people, i would just kill everybody
Upon reading the logs again, I see that nobody on either side of the argument acted as civil as they should. Keep in mind though, its just as frustrating for everyone else to be told that their beliefs are invalid, as it is for you. Please though, I beg you, don't continue this conversation any further on the forums. Its completely off topic and a waste of time, and is liable to get this thread locked/deleted. If you have some sort of a reason to contact my, my skype is crossbowsftw. Also, Nick's post isn't official.
Players who want to have a peaceful faction must pay a sum of gold, iron, diamonds, and emeralds every time they want to switch to peaceful
Worldguard is no longer available outside of admins
You must wait 30 seconds between each teleportation command (/home, /spawn, /tpa)
TPA now available to Builder rank, but is unusable in enemy territory
You can open enemy chests, assuming no members of the faction are online
Obstacle Course added in the Nether
Warzone added near spawn
There is a 5 second wait from when you intitiate a teleport, and when you actually teleport. If you are hit within this timeframe, the teleportation is cancelled.
PVP logging will result in an NPC being spawned at your log-out location, with your inventory. You will lose your items if it is killed
We have a forum at viceroycraft.freeforums.org, and a Facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/pages/ViceroyCraft-Factions-SMP/453817437972282 On both pages, you can request for worldguard protection, and for your faction to be peaceful. Only a peaceful faction can have worldguard protection granted.
The server is located in the United Kingdom. Anyone from around the world is welcome, but English is the official language of the server, and playing from a far location may result in undesired latency.
IP: 109.70.149.207:26065
No, not at the moment.
Puggle, you're just mad because you were raided, and don't agree with the religious beliefs of some of the players. Before you got into a religious argument, you were talking about how much you liked the server. You even edited your posts to make it look like you never liked the server in the first place. I've tried to be polite, but at this point, the only thing I have to tell you is to grow up. I also find it rather funny how you played the victim, but told everyone they were "going to hell." Maybe I shouldn't have convinced Lemon_of_Fire to unban you, since now I'm starting to agree with him; you're a jerk.
Remember, every time you complain about the server, you're bumping the thread, allowing more people to see it.
1. Boohoo, we all had that, and you know what? I loved it.
2. The economy is player based. My shop is a trading post, not server ran. The thought that my shop should be taken down for any reason is dumb, especially in a PVP/Raiding Server.
3. To say Jesus loves you, when he's dead and there is no true proof that he can possible love anyone in his state implies that Christianity is true and is a form of pushing your own beliefs onto us.
4. Holy hell, have you even read a book? Open a biology book, sweet mother of jesus!
5. I didn't ban you. Also, yes, i virtually killed your brother... *Virtually* It's a game. I asked him to stop being annoying, and he wouldnt. So i killed him. Think of it as a life lesson. Better him learn this way than get sucker punched being cocky in real life, right?
6. This is pointless.
7. Way to play the lesser of two evils. This is about you, not wampers.
8. Can we rule you out? There's another rule to "lock us in", whatever that means.
9. If we had more mods, you probably wouldn't be here.
10. Considering you have to cross a long-ass PVP-Protected Bridge, and walk INTO my shop, to be in my territory, (That i claimed from wilderness, not from the spawn area), killing who i want seems pretty damn reasonable.
11. I would show more love to fake people. And, no one here is cold, we just have a strict zero tolerance no-stupidity rule. It's unwritten.
12. Personal attacks, giving no real critique, and just bashing someone for who they are personally. Because thats what Christ would do, right?
13. My dock is bigger than yours.
14. What? Stop being silly. Minecraft is MeinKraft is MindCrapht.
15. Get-get-get-get-get over it.
Jesus Christ get over yourself. We don't hate you for your beliefs. We hate you because yout talk about it too damn much.
In response to your 15 complaints/suggestions
1. Thats not my problem.
2. Thats a player based economy. I only said I didn't want a plugin managed economy. I don't deal with "shop scamming." If you trust someone on a PVP server, thats your own problem.
3. I never told you to not talk about Jesus. The "no religious debates" rule only came up because everyone was bickering about it. People can talk about anything on this server, I just don't want people arguing constantly.
4. Thats not how evolution works. Research it before criticizing it.
5. That has nothing to do with me, Lemon, or the server.
6. No it doesnt.
7. Army wasn't hacking, stop trying to say that. NoCheat blocks hacks, and alerts me when people are hacking. There are currently 37 players banned for hacking, so don't try to say we aren't strict about it.
8. Not quite sure what you mean by that. I'm happy where they are at the moment.
9. We may add more moderators, but without a more powerful server, you can't really stop xrayers unless you can monitor players 24/7. If they want to use it and make the game less fun, thats their own problem. Granted we do ban players when we catch them xraying, theres not much we can do.
10. There are no longer worldguard regions on nonpeaceful faction shops. Either way, nobody is forcing you to go into them.
11. Its a PVP server for goodness sake. Yes, I do care about the players. Yes, I will occasionally help them out. No, I will not give them back their inventory after someone kills them.
12. Fleecy and I have known Lemon for about a year and a half now. Granted he should probably more lenient on bans, but he is fairly mature.
13. I'm sure the tiny dock that took all of 5 minutes makes us a terrible server.
14. Perhaps you don't know what "vanilla" means. I don't want to add any gimmicky plugins. Factions serves primarily as a user-based grief prevention system here. I'm not adding anything. We may have a new map eventually, where I may build up the spawn.
15. Whatever.
In response to non-bulleted stuff
Here you go again. Of course Science isn't religious. Atheism, or at least by definition of the word, is just not believing in any God. Thats different from being against religion, which is Antitheism. You're entitled to your opinion on evolution, and I'm entitled to my opinion on it as well.
I wouldn't have cared at all if you griefed! Its a factions server, we allow that! If you had spammed, or threatened me, that would have simply resulted in a mute and jailing. No, you're not a victim. Stop feeling sorry for yourself. I unbanned you because I thought what Lemon did wasn't really the fairest thing to do.
You may not have intentionally started it, but you did.
If you would like to actually mention what rules should be changed, go ahead. All you've done is said that they need to be changed. Fleecy and many of the other admins aren't online frequently because we are rather busy with school, or work. Yes, I can read the chat logs. Yes, lemon did contribute to the flame war. Yes, it would not have fully gone off without him. But you have just as much play in it as he did. Both sides of this argument were rather rude to eachother. This is an online game, people are not guaranteed to be nice to eachother. Lemon is more qualified to be an admin than the others, because he has played with us since early 2011. Once again, Lemon did not ban you for your beliefs. You never stated any facts, only opnions. No, its not racism. Racism would be if I banned for for being of a certain race.
Here's how it started, if you want to see.
2012-08-28 01:21:57 [INFO] <**Defias crossbowsftw> Since a great deal of us are in highschool
2012-08-28 01:21:57 [INFO] <*phapsters McNuggetRage> that would be soo gay
2012-08-28 01:21:59 [INFO] <PrimedTNT Bobabob8> i think you should
2012-08-28 01:22:02 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> i know cross, but swearing is more annoying it seems
2012-08-28 01:22:05 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> I like to say whatever the **** i want.
2012-08-28 01:22:11 [INFO] <PrimedTNT Bobabob8> just a suggestion
2012-08-28 01:22:11 [INFO] <**Defias crossbowsftw> just /ignore people you dont want to see
2012-08-28 01:22:12 [INFO] <**Slackas semism> it would be ****ing useless
2012-08-28 01:22:22 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> it wouldn't be useless
2012-08-28 01:22:29 [INFO] [PLAYER_COMMAND] nicktheslayer: /home
2012-08-28 01:22:32 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> its hatred towards the world
2012-08-28 01:22:37 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> alright, its ioen
2012-08-28 01:22:39 [INFO] <**Defias crossbowsftw> not really
2012-08-28 01:22:42 [INFO] <*Defias Lemon_of_Fire> no
2012-08-28 01:22:43 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> open
2012-08-28 01:22:53 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> bob, if you're just sezieruing
2012-08-28 01:22:54 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> leave
2012-08-28 01:22:55 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> why would you allow such a terrible thing towards god
2012-08-28 01:22:58 [INFO] <*Defias Lemon_of_Fire> what you talkin bout willis!
2012-08-28 01:22:59 [INFO] <PrimedTNT Bobabob8> lol
2012-08-28 01:23:03 [INFO] <**Defias crossbowsftw> not eveyrone believes in god
2012-08-28 01:23:07 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> ill kill you bob
2012-08-28 01:23:08 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> haha but i do
2012-08-28 01:23:08 [INFO] <PrimedTNT Bobabob8> WHAT
2012-08-28 01:23:10 [INFO] <*Defias Lemon_of_Fire> like me
2012-08-28 01:23:12 [INFO] <PrimedTNT Bobabob8> me too
2012-08-28 01:23:13 [INFO] <*Defias ~AceGhost230> i do, in 360,000,000
2012-08-28 01:23:15 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> welll its not really hatred
2012-08-28 01:23:23 [INFO] /94.231.106.109:38276 lost connection
2012-08-28 01:23:31 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> cussing is not evil
2012-08-28 01:23:37 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> but its kinda disturbing
2012-08-28 01:23:38 [INFO] <PrimedTNT Bobabob8> do you want steak nick?
2012-08-28 01:23:40 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> Im an atheist, with better morals than most religious people i know.
2012-08-28 01:23:40 [INFO] <*Defias Lemon_of_Fire> if anything its a very informal way of talking
2012-08-28 01:23:43 [INFO] [PLAYER_COMMAND] nicktheslayer: /back
2012-08-28 01:23:51 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> nick rreally?
2012-08-28 01:23:58 [INFO] [PLAYER_COMMAND] nicktheslayer: /back
2012-08-28 01:24:00 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> yep
2012-08-28 01:24:02 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> haha wow
2012-08-28 01:24:07 [INFO] <PrimedTNT Bobabob8> i'm leaving this world.
2012-08-28 01:24:07 [INFO] [NoCheatPlus] Tsm20 failed NoFall: tried to avoid fall damage for ~4.11 block(s). VL 2.
2012-08-28 01:24:13 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> why dont you think there is a god nick?
2012-08-28 01:24:16 [INFO] [PLAYER_COMMAND] Bobabob8: /spawn
2012-08-28 01:24:18 [INFO] <*Defias ~AceGhost230> i believe in 360,000,000 gods
2012-08-28 01:24:19 [INFO] [PLAYER_COMMAND] semism: /f home
2012-08-28 01:24:19 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> its impossible for a big band
2012-08-28 01:24:19 [INFO] <**Defias crossbowsftw> oh boy here we go
2012-08-28 01:24:22 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> Because rape, the holocaust
2012-08-28 01:24:24 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> bang
2012-08-28 01:24:25 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> jersey shore
2012-08-28 01:24:31 [INFO] <*phapsters McNuggetRage> Puggly everyone has their own beliefs
2012-08-28 01:24:31 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> etc
2012-08-28 01:24:33 [INFO] [PLAYER_COMMAND] Bobabob8: /f home
2012-08-28 01:24:35 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> haha nick your into the worldly things
2012-08-28 01:24:38 [INFO] <**Defias crossbowsftw> ./religion debate
2012-08-28 01:24:41 [INFO] <*Defias ~AceGhost230> hahahahaha
2012-08-28 01:24:42 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> no god, who loves us, would allow that.
2012-08-28 01:24:44 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> i know
2012-08-28 01:24:52 [INFO] <**0MN1 ~N1CK> so if there is a god.. hes kinda a *****, xD
2012-08-28 01:24:53 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> nick, sin entered the world because of us
2012-08-28 01:24:53 [INFO] <**Defias crossbowsftw> I dont really believe that I do bad things because some woman ate a bad apple
2012-08-28 01:24:54 [INFO] <*Defias Lemon_of_Fire> dont talk about religion and politics if you want to keep friends
2012-08-28 23:43:27 [INFO] <*PrimedTNT ~Puggly> If people were athiests, most people, i would just kill everybody
Upon reading the logs again, I see that nobody on either side of the argument acted as civil as they should. Keep in mind though, its just as frustrating for everyone else to be told that their beliefs are invalid, as it is for you. Please though, I beg you, don't continue this conversation any further on the forums. Its completely off topic and a waste of time, and is liable to get this thread locked/deleted. If you have some sort of a reason to contact my, my skype is crossbowsftw. Also, Nick's post isn't official.