User name*: bmo2623 Age*: 16 Location/Time Zone*: U.S.A Central Did someone refer you?: No Minecraft Version (eg 1.8.1)*: 1.2.4 Land/Town: Valthraxus Job*: Armourer Race: Warrior Name: If you wish to use your exact Minecraft username, leave blank: Fletcher O'Riley Age*: 20 Bio*:Born normally, raised normally, I Worked with my dad at the blacksmith shop to grow up to be a great blacksmith, Worked dawn 'til dusk working to be the best blacksmith ever known, Always obedient, loyal, ran away once when 8 but then found later my parents were always, nice to me, and pampered, and spoiled me. I was a normal kid always never weird, awkward just plain normal, when my grandfather died, my dad explained to me what was really going on in this world, and I never thought of the place as I peaceful place anymore after that. He told me that the world was in chaos politically the world was a hard one to live on and to make the best of it.
User name*: Denkfaehigkeit Age*: 15 Location/Time Zone*: GMT -6.00 Did someone refer you?: shadowjay1 Minecraft Version (eg 1.8.1)*: 1.2.4 Land/Town: Tennebrae Job*: Farmer Race: Hunter Name: Zzuumog [Chaavuuzzog] (uuz) [Shalivee] Torfuu Age*: 26 Bio*: Born in a small town with his father and mother, Zzuumog's primary role throughout life has been providing food and bio materials for those that have needed it, mostly his father who then sold them to others, but later in life, he's made his life out of it. His father died when he was 23 and mother shortly after, both from health related issues. He keeps mostly to himself, bothering no one and tries to help out others where he can, without intruding.. He's mostly untalented except in aspects of farming and as a lumberjack and in husbandry.
User name* braner321 Age*: 15 Location/Time Zone*:USA EST. Did someone refer you?:No. Minecraft Version (eg 1.8.1)*:newest updated version Land/Town:loxaly Job*:builder Race:warroir Name:thiesis Age*:19 Bio*:Born in a little town were I was raised by my father and mother. worked with my father as a builder and trained to help defend the castle walls and fight against enemy's of my king or lord. Was raised to always be ready to contribute in anything even if it be my life.
I believe you already posted previously on our forums - if you have keep it there as its easier for us. If I'm mistaken let me know.
User name*: bmo2623 Age*: 16 Location/Time Zone*: U.S.A Central Did someone refer you?: No Minecraft Version (eg 1.8.1)*: 1.2.4 Land/Town: Valthraxus Job*: Armourer Race: Warrior Name: If you wish to use your exact Minecraft username, leave blank: Fletcher O'Riley Age*: 20 Bio*:Born normally, raised normally, I Worked with my dad at the blacksmith shop to grow up to be a great blacksmith, Worked dawn 'til dusk working to be the best blacksmith ever known, Always obedient, loyal, ran away once when 8 but then found later my parents were always, nice to me, and pampered, and spoiled me. I was a normal kid always never weird, awkward just plain normal, when my grandfather died, my dad explained to me what was really going on in this world, and I never thought of the place as I peaceful place anymore after that. SYLVANIA WINS
The last line leaves questions, add the following:
- What did your dad tell you?
- Why did it change your opinion on the world?
i fixed it. User name*: bmo2623 Age*: 16 Location/Time Zone*: U.S.A Central Did someone refer you?: No Minecraft Version (eg 1.8.1)*: 1.2.4 Land/Town: Valthraxus Job*: Armourer Race: Warrior Name: If you wish to use your exact Minecraft username, leave blank: Fletcher O'Riley Age*: 20 Bio*:Born normally, raised normally, I Worked with my dad at the blacksmith shop to grow up to be a great blacksmith, Worked dawn 'til dusk working to be the best blacksmith ever known, Always obedient, loyal, ran away once when 8 but then found later my parents were always, nice to me, and pampered, and spoiled me. I was a normal kid always never weird, awkward just plain normal, when my grandfather died, my dad explained to me what was really going on in this world, and I never thought of the place as I peaceful place anymore after that. He told me that the world was in chaos politically the world was a hard one to live on and to make the best of it.
Well, I've really been welcomed to this server. Got banned in 5 minutes. Interesting. I didn't know that finding out what the plugins were for a server was a terrible thing. Maybe you should have used your bPermissions to block out the /plugins command. Anyway, what's the point of hiding your plugins? So what if someone (such as myself) goes to servers to plan out what plugins he wants to use for his server? About 1% of your users will do that. It probably helps the users to find out all your plugins so they don't have to question what awesome plugin they are using for the rest of their time at the server. Btw, I've narrowed down that NPC plugin to Citizens and Towny. Maybe it's not one of those, but I'll continue browsing your 64 plugins. Hmmmmmmm. Maybe I should give the names of the plugins to everyone such as your HawkEye plugin which isn't enabled. Someone might grief and what will you do? Makes you think that banning me wasn't a good idea, eh? Instead of acting so rashly to someone who just joined your server from the server list, how about begging me not to give all your "secrets." Put a sign up or something saying that asking for plugins is illegal and direct someone to your site. Make a tutorial like ImDeity Kingdoms so you don't have your users going about the world not knowing the rules. I didn't know the rules because they were never given to me. Again, thanks for the plugins.
EDIT: Oh! I understand. It's April Fools today....... Then again, that's not very funny.
Well, I've really been welcomed to this server. Got banned in 5 minutes. Interesting. I didn't know that finding out what the plugins were for a server was a terrible thing. Maybe you should have used your bPermissions to block out the /plugins command. Anyway, what's the point of hiding your plugins? So what if someone (such as myself) goes to servers to plan out what plugins he wants to use for his server? About 1% of your users will do that. It probably helps the users to find out all your plugins so they don't have to question what awesome plugin they are using for the rest of their time at the server. Btw, I've narrowed down that NPC plugin to Citizens and Towny. Maybe it's not one of those, but I'll continue browsing your 64 plugins. Hmmmmmmm. Maybe I should give the names of the plugins to everyone such as your HawkEye plugin which isn't enabled. Someone might grief and what will you do? Makes you think that banning me wasn't a good idea, eh? Instead of acting so rashly to someone who just joined your server from the server list, how about begging me not to give all your "secrets." Put a sign up or something saying that asking for plugins is illegal and direct someone to your site. Make a tutorial like ImDeity Kingdoms so you don't have your users going about the world not knowing the rules. I didn't know the rules because they were never given to me. Again, thanks for the plugins.
EDIT: Oh! I understand. It's April Fools today....... Then again, that's not very funny.
Reported to moderators for threatening us.
I only banned you because I go on gut instinct with greylisters, and if I feel its not good for the server to get a guy on, I'll ban them. You proved with your post, I made the right choice. Frankly, a player who is interested in playing a server generally wont care what plugins its using, as long as they enjoy playing it - its only other servers moderators and admins who kick up as much of a fuss as you are.
So, I say two things:
1. If you are an admin or planning to become one, the server is a competitive thing to run, and originality is the key. Copying another servers plugins wont get you anywhere, because you'll never catch them on the configs which takes years to hone to perfection.
2. Assuming you ARE a geniune player, maybe forget about the plugin list and try playing a server to see if you enjoy it. The bigger servers, like ImDeity, have private plugins anyway which you've probably never heard of either way - hey, we have a fun - for all you know the NPCs are one of the private ones (Oh, all my plugins I make are hidden from the list by the way).
Anyway, TL;DR? The fact you're posting here and going through all the plugins just suggests to me you really have nothing better to do with your life. I kind of hope you are number 1, at least then you'd be doing SOMETHING "productive" (If you can call it that)
EDIT: I should also point out that anything beyond a plugin you get from our server list (eg spout textures) are copyrighted to us, and if you use them anywhere else we WILL prosecute - Go ask the guy on PlanetMinecraft who copied this forum thread, he's paying our server bills now.
Well, I've really been welcomed to this server. Got banned in 5 minutes. Interesting. I didn't know that finding out what the plugins were for a server was a terrible thing. Maybe you should have used your bPermissions to block out the /plugins command. Anyway, what's the point of hiding your plugins? So what if someone (such as myself) goes to servers to plan out what plugins he wants to use for his server? About 1% of your users will do that. It probably helps the users to find out all your plugins so they don't have to question what awesome plugin they are using for the rest of their time at the server. Btw, I've narrowed down that NPC plugin to Citizens and Towny. Maybe it's not one of those, but I'll continue browsing your 64 plugins. Hmmmmmmm. Maybe I should give the names of the plugins to everyone such as your HawkEye plugin which isn't enabled. Someone might grief and what will you do? Makes you think that banning me wasn't a good idea, eh? Instead of acting so rashly to someone who just joined your server from the server list, how about begging me not to give all your "secrets." Put a sign up or something saying that asking for plugins is illegal and direct someone to your site. Make a tutorial like ImDeity Kingdoms so you don't have your users going about the world not knowing the rules. I didn't know the rules because they were never given to me. Again, thanks for the plugins.
EDIT: Oh! I understand. It's April Fools today....... Then again, that's not very funny.
I only banned you because I go on gut instinct with greylisters, and if I feel its not good for the server to get a guy on, I'll ban them. You proved with your post, I made the right choice. Frankly, a player who is interested in playing a server generally wont care what plugins its using, as long as they enjoy playing it - its only other servers moderators and admins who kick up as much of a fuss as you are.
So, I say two things:
1. If you are an admin or planning to become one, the server is a competitive thing to run, and originality is the key. Copying another servers plugins wont get you anywhere, because you'll never catch them on the configs which takes years to hone to perfection.
2. Assuming you ARE a geniune player, maybe forget about the plugin list and try playing a server to see if you enjoy it. The bigger servers, like ImDeity, have private plugins anyway which you've probably never heard of either way - hey, we have a fun - for all you know the NPCs are one of the private ones (Oh, all my plugins I make are hidden from the list by the way).
Anyway, TL;DR? The fact you're posting here and going through all the plugins just suggests to me you really have nothing better to do with your life. I kind of hope you are number 1, at least then you'd be doing SOMETHING "productive" (If you can call it that)
EDIT: I should also point out that anything beyond a plugin you get from our server list (eg spout textures) are copyrighted to us, and if you use them anywhere else we WILL prosecute - Go ask the guy on PlanetMinecraft who copied this forum thread, he's paying our server bills now.
Oh, so you reported me to the moderators, huh? For what? Finding out what everyone else has access to. "/plugins" How hard is that? If a moderator does ban me, what is he really banning me for? Common knowledge? A person takes a candy out of a basket that says "FREE CANDY" gets his hand cut off?
Private plugins? Great! How about the plugins that you download that are available to the public? Shouldn't you and all other server admins give credit to where credit is due? I'm not asking for your own personal plugins, I just want to see what makes a good server a good server. It starts with the idea then the plugins. If a good, successful server is using a certain plugin, what makes me think that I shouldn't use that plugin? Looking through the long list of plugins and spotting the right ones may be a difficult task, so going to servers seems like a logical thing to do. I'd be an idiot if I were to try to make a server without knowing what works.
As for originality, having personal plugins doesn't make a server original, I'm pretty sure it's how you use them. Take WorldEdit for an example. The plugin is a great plugin for landscaping but if you don't do a good job, it looks terrible. I have a total of 27 plugins on my server so far and I've linked them and figured ways to have them complement each other. I'm thinking about making personal plugins some time in the future. They're nice, but it doesn't make the server. Also, think about this. Two servers have the same plugins, are they the same?
Nope.
Configs that I might never catch up to? Takes years to perfect them? Sure, I might never catch up to your configs and I might never perfect them (Perfecting configs? Really?), but who cares? I'm not trying to compete with the abnormally large servers. I'd much rather host a server that very few people play, that way, I can get to know the people I'm playing with.
I very much enjoyed playing on your server for the 5 minutes that I was on there. I saw what great setup you guys had and I might have played on it if I didn't get banned. I had just recently downloaded spout and your server was the third server I played on. In fact, it was the third large server that I played on that wasn't a private server.
So seeing that I had tried to talk to one of the guards and having him kill me, I was bothered to know what plugin you were using. As I hinted at before, I had been looking through hundreds of plugins and I found very few NPC plugins but not once did I see that you could use NPC's to defend a castle. Finding out what plugin you were using, would have been like finding a bucket of diamonds. I didn't make the diamonds, but I sure as heck can use them.
Yeah, I'll call this productive. Having a one on one chat with a server admin is a great way to get good advice on how to have a great server! I'm learning things like: not banning commands is a good way to get people off your server, larger servers compete with each other, you can hide plugins from the plugin list, and that putting textures on your server that you were forced to download isn't a good idea. Thanks for the input! I'm looking forward to your next post.
Yeah I stand by my point, your server will NEVER be successful if you just leech plugins off of other servers. The best way to do it, I'm giving you honest advise here, is to decide what kind of server you want to run, and find the plugins yourself. IT doesn't take long to get the hang of plugin searching and trust me, you'll work off a lot better for it. To kick you off, This is an absolute essential, and out of all permissions plugins it runs the best and is easiest to use: http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/bpermissions/
Now, if you apologize and stop acting like a douche, I'll be more than happy to help you as much I can to get your own unique server. Otherwise, I have no interest in what you have to say... you're arguments here are just falling over upon themselves.
@hallo746: Ok, I'm sorry I threatened to give out all the plugins to everyone. That was the biggest mistake I made in this. Although, I'm wondering how it threatens the safety of the server.
@Fleenix: I HAVE gotten the hang of plugin browsing. You have just been doing this for a long time, I have been doing this for a week or two. I know about permissions. I know about regions and security and a lot of things. Leeching, as you say it, is a negative word for what I'm doing. I'm looking for the plugins I'm missing on my server. Filling in the gaps. Looking through examples is a better phrase. (Also, aren't you a leecher too because you looked through the plugin list and you downloaded from other people's work. Stop being so hypocritical)
And you have no idea what you are talking about when you say I will NEVER be successful. So you can predict the future now? How do you know a month from now that my server won't just overtake yours. Take a look at Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. Bill worked at Mac, if I'm not mistaken. Bill left. Bill made a company. Now the two companies are competing against each other. Bill probably didn't take the original idea of mac. He made his own from scratch but he looked at the examples from the company and incorporated it in his own. I'm not stealing your plugins, I'm looking at the original idea and improving it.
And the only reason I'm posting here is because I was banned and I don't want to "sit down and take it from some server admin" who banned me for such a silly reason. Banning me because I don't seem appropriate for the server? Is that what you really thought when I asked you for the plugin(singular)? What if I was just curious? What if I was just trying to point out a hole in your server when I said "interesting /plugins"? Now that you know my reasons for going on your server, what was the benefit of kicking me? If there was any benefit, it would have been keeping me on. You and I could have talked about improving the server.
For example, one thing you can do is put your custom texture pack in dynmap in your texture pack folder so you can have your texturepack on the map. You have several outdated plugins. You have duplicates of plugins(crafting table options). I wont list them so I won't "threaten the safety of the server."
@hallo746: If you want me to leave the topic, then, fine, I will. I'm through with this. I've gotten as much help from your server as I can get.
@hallo746: Ok, I'm sorry I threatened to give out all the plugins to everyone. That was the biggest mistake I made in this. Although, I'm wondering how it threatens the safety of the server.
@Fleenix: I HAVE gotten the hang of plugin browsing. You have just been doing this for a long time, I have been doing this for a week or two. I know about permissions. I know about regions and security and a lot of things. Leeching, as you say it, is a negative word for what I'm doing. I'm looking for the plugins I'm missing on my server. Filling in the gaps. Looking through examples is a better phrase. (Also, aren't you a leecher too because you looked through the plugin list and you downloaded from other people's work. Stop being so hypocritical)*1
And you have no idea what you are talking about when you say I will NEVER be successful. So you can predict the future now? How do you know a month from now that my server won't just overtake yours. Take a look at Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. Bill worked at Mac, if I'm not mistaken. Bill left. Bill made a company. Now the two companies are competing against each other. Bill probably didn't take the original idea of mac. He made his own from scratch but he looked at the examples from the company and incorporated it in his own. I'm not stealing your plugins, I'm looking at the original idea and improving it. *2
And the only reason I'm posting here is because I was banned and I don't want to "sit down and take it from some server admin" who banned me for such a silly reason. Banning me because I don't seem appropriate for the server? Is that what you really thought when I asked you for the plugin(singular)? What if I was just curious? What if I was just trying to point out a hole in your server when I said "interesting /plugins"? Now that you know my reasons for going on your server, what was the benefit of kicking me? If there was any benefit, it would have been keeping me on. You and I could have talked about improving the server. 3*
For example, one thing you can do is put your custom texture pack in dynmap in your texture pack folder so you can have your texturepack on the map. You have several outdated plugins. You have duplicates of plugins(crafting table options). I wont list them so I won't "threaten the safety of the server." 4*
@hallo746: If you want me to leave the topic, then, fine, I will. I'm through with this. I've gotten as much help from your server as I can get.
*1. No, a plugin list is posted to the public domain, the authors WANT you to download the plugins. A server, on the other hand, is private domain - there is no permission node for /plugins - there used to be a plugin to block the command (which we had) but it broke when 1.2 was released.
*2. This example is irrelivant - Bill WORKED at mac, he had access freely to all the internals and stuff. What you did would be more like Bill buying a mac, hacking through the OS to find out how it works and basing microsoft off of that.
*3 In all fairness, I have a list of what I call "ban on sights" - it generally includes people who ask for creative, people who clearly didn't read anything, people who want mod/admin rights and people who have no interest in playing the server - When you take everything else away you fall into Cat. 4 - if you don't have interest in playing the server, I don't have any interest in wasting my time with you. Trust me, if and when your server does get going, you'll know how to pick out the players who aren't worth your time. In the few moments a day you get to look at the actual game, you don't want to waste it with people who aren't going to be directly enjoying what you have created. Any other free time you have will be spent in the FTP doing configs. (Which reminds me, if you plan on using some of the plugins we have, I really hope you have a VERY high-end server to run them on, they simply wont load on a $50 VPS.)
*4. You yourself said you were getting plugins to work together - Thats exactly why, for example, we have two crafting restriction plugins - both have different functionality and are used in different ways. As for "outdated plugins" - all our plugins are up to date as of last week, any that are "out of date" on their relevant pages, I have merely updated myself for private use. If the plugins go inactive then I'll release my repaired version for the public to use, but only then.
User name*: PowerLuma Age*: 15/16 (in a few days) Location/Time Zone*: USA, CA, PST Did someone refer you?: Nope. Silvania wins? Minecraft Version (eg 1.8.1)*: 1.2.4/ 1.2.5 (When it updates very soon) Land/Town: Caelum/Harfang Job*: Arcane Enchanter Race: Battle Mage Name: Genesis Age*: 26 Bio*: I used to live in another world, known as Sol'rift. I was raised in my hometown, Oris, where magic was a power used by many of our people. When I was 15 a tragic accident has happened, in which the volcano Mt. Kraftus erupted. I was practicing my magic skills with my friend, Solstice, out in the woods, when we had seen the mighty eruption. The lava had traveled very fast as to reach us, and we had ran as fast as we could until the lava stopped flowing. We use our magic to create a frosty mist over the still lava to cool it and make a path. We slowly make it back to our hometown nearly destroyed if it hadn't been for the village elders' magic. After that incident I had devoted my life to studying the origins of magic, and creating new spells, to make sure the town could not be destroyed again. Until I wanted to seek more power, the power to control the powers of the nature. This had only lead to my fall. One day I had created a spell that was the possible spell of recreation of spirits. Instead it was too powerful for me to control, and I was warped into where I thought was the woods in which I used to be with my friend. It was not the woods, it was actually the world of Silvania. Soon enough I had encountered beings of which I was not familiar with. I had tried to interact with them, instead being barraged by arrows. I quickly try to use the magic I had created, but instead it had failed, as if my world's principles had not existed in this land. I quickly turned around and ran, but as soon as I ran 10 ft, an arrow had hit my foot. I thought I would have been done for in that spot, but suddenly lightning fell from the sky as if to protect me, and all sight had faded away, and when I regained my sight I was in a small cottage. And from then on my adventure continued to find out what happened on that day.
Age*:15 Location/Time Zone*:EST Did someone refer you?:No Minecraft Version (eg 1.8.1)*:1.2.4 Land/Town: Nation of Ramonia -- Town Job*:Armourer Race:Hunter Name: Frosted Arrow Age*: 15 Bio*: I'm just your average joe Minecraft player. I have always been good with Bows and Mid-Combat and enjoy it actually *coughSilvania Wins cough*. I enjoy factions and going to war with other factions, and thats why I would like to join this server.
User name*: PowerLuma Age*: 15/16 (in a few days) Location/Time Zone*: USA, CA, PST Did someone refer you?: Nope. Silvania wins? Minecraft Version (eg 1.8.1)*: 1.2.4/ 1.2.5 (When it updates very soon) Land/Town: Caelum/Harfang Job*: Arcane Enchanter Race: Battle Mage Name: Genesis Age*: 26 Bio*: I used to live in another world, known as Sol'rift. I was raised in my hometown, Oris, where magic was a power used by many of our people. When I was 15 a tragic accident has happened, in which the volcano Mt. Kraftus erupted. I was practicing my magic skills with my friend, Solstice, out in the woods, when we had seen the mighty eruption. The lava had traveled very fast as to reach us, and we had ran as fast as we could until the lava stopped flowing. We use our magic to create a frosty mist over the still lava to cool it and make a path. We slowly make it back to our hometown nearly destroyed if it hadn't been for the village elders' magic. After that incident I had devoted my life to studying the origins of magic, and creating new spells, to make sure the town could not be destroyed again. Until I wanted to seek more power, the power to control the powers of the nature. This had only lead to my fall. One day I had created a spell that was the possible spell of recreation of spirits. Instead it was too powerful for me to control, and I was warped into where I thought was the woods in which I used to be with my friend. It was not the woods, it was actually the world of Silvania. Soon enough I had encountered beings of which I was not familiar with. I had tried to interact with them, instead being barraged by arrows. I quickly try to use the magic I had created, but instead it had failed, as if my world's principles had not existed in this land. I quickly turned around and ran, but as soon as I ran 10 ft, an arrow had hit my foot. I thought I would have been done for in that spot, but suddenly lightning fell from the sky as if to protect me, and all sight had faded away, and when I regained my sight I was in a small cottage. And from then on my adventure continued to find out what happened on that day.
I quite like it but unfortunately it messes with our lore a little - something that I know is out of your control as you didn't know
Could you change it from "creating" spells to "discovering" them? Its generally considered impossible to create new spells on the server (unless you're a god (me, with the configs )) but you can discover them and learn them - its the core of how magic works on the server actually
Age*:15 Location/Time Zone*:EST Did someone refer you?:No Minecraft Version (eg 1.8.1)*:1.2.4 Land/Town: Nation of Ramonia -- Town Job*:Armourer Race:Hunter Name: Frosted Arrow Age*: 15 Bio*: I'm just your average joe Minecraft player. I have always been good with Bows and Mid-Combat and enjoy it actually *coughSilvania Wins cough*. I enjoy factions and going to war with other factions, and thats why I would like to join this server.
Please don't say "silvania wins" unless you actually read the guide. Which you CLEARLY didn't...
Also missing your IGN which is required
User name*:Epicspencer
Age*:14
Location/Time Zone*: America EST
Did someone refer you?: Nope
Minecraft Version (eg 1.8.1)*:1.2.5
Land/Town: Tennebrae
Job*: Farmer
Race: Pyshic
Name: Leroy Keinobe
Age*: 20
Bio*: My parents were fine and good thank you very much. My birth was normal, I came out health if a bit more aware looking than average, my parents came out alive, all fine and good. There was some weird omen about me going insane and killing my faimly in cold blood. But, really, who doesn't get that? I grew up in an average way, nothing too exicting but still enjoyable. On my 12th birthday, I met this weird crazy looking dude who said he could unlock my hidden potenial. I agree, but kept my had at my club's handle. He did some weird magiks and i woke up in my house with floating objects. After that it all kinda went downhill.
*1. No, a plugin list is posted to the public domain, the authors WANT you to download the plugins. A server, on the other hand, is private domain - there is no permission node for /plugins - there used to be a plugin to block the command (which we had) but it broke when 1.2 was released. *2. This example is irrelivant - Bill WORKED at mac, he had access freely to all the internals and stuff. What you did would be more like Bill buying a mac, hacking through the OS to find out how it works and basing microsoft off of that. *3 In all fairness, I have a list of what I call "ban on sights" - it generally includes people who ask for creative, people who clearly didn't read anything, people who want mod/admin rights and people who have no interest in playing the server - When you take everything else away you fall into Cat. 4 - if you don't have interest in playing the server, I don't have any interest in wasting my time with you. Trust me, if and when your server does get going, you'll know how to pick out the players who aren't worth your time. In the few moments a day you get to look at the actual game, you don't want to waste it with people who aren't going to be directly enjoying what you have created. Any other free time you have will be spent in the FTP doing configs. (Which reminds me, if you plan on using some of the plugins we have, I really hope you have a VERY high-end server to run them on, they simply wont load on a $50 VPS.) *4. You yourself said you were getting plugins to work together - Thats exactly why, for example, we have two crafting restriction plugins - both have different functionality and are used in different ways. As for "outdated plugins" - all our plugins are up to date as of last week, any that are "out of date" on their relevant pages, I have merely updated myself for private use. If the plugins go inactive then I'll release my repaired version for the public to use, but only then.
You say very many untrue things. I had an interest in playing your server. Maybe for a day or two. Maybe I would have played it later when I fully develop my server. The plugin got my mind off the server. I just started to use Spout and if I had known more about Spout and all the info it held I might have known not to ask. But, it's your loss to be banning admins or soon to be admins and not getting help from many more people who have experience. I'll leave the ones on my server who do not have this "direct interest" because, who knows?, they may just develop it.
Now for this bit of info that disproves point 1 and partially disproves point 4. That plugin that blocks plugins that you mentioned. It has been updated since March 6. A whole month to implement the plugin. I've tested it on my server and it works. Maybe you didn't see that it was updated or maybe you didn't "perfect" that config file in the *plugin name* folder. Not going to use that plugin though. Not interested in hiding my plugins.
And I'm not hacking into the OS. I'm looking at the parts that are available to everyone, seeing if my computer can have that certain feature, and going out and "buying" them, not siphoning your custom made parts. (i.e. the usb port, the speakers. Not the logo, the hard drive, the power circuit.)
You say very many untrue things. I had an interest in playing your server. Maybe for a day or two. Maybe I would have played it later when I fully develop my server. The plugin got my mind off the server. I just started to use Spout and if I had known more about Spout and all the info it held I might have known not to ask. But, it's your loss to be banning admins or soon to be admins and not getting help from many more people who have experience. I'll leave the ones on my server who do not have this "direct interest" because, who knows?, they may just develop it.
Now for this bit of info that disproves point 1 and partially disproves point 4. That plugin that blocks plugins that you mentioned. It has been updated since March 6. A whole month to implement the plugin. I've tested it on my server and it works. Maybe you didn't see that it was updated or maybe you didn't "perfect" that config file in the *plugin name* folder. Not going to use that plugin though. Not interested in hiding my plugins.
And I'm not hacking into the OS. I'm looking at the parts that are available to everyone, seeing if my computer can have that certain feature, and going out and "buying" them, not siphoning your custom made parts. (i.e. the usb port, the speakers. Not the logo, the hard drive, the power circuit.)
That plugin was an exception to the last week - Until now, it didn't have a Bukkit Dev page so I'd been watching its forum page, he only put the notice for bukkit dev up there 3 days ago which is when I installed it.
"I had an interest in playing your server. Maybe for a day or two. Maybe I would have played it later... But, it's your loss to be banning admins or soon to be admins and not getting help from many more people who have experience."
If you were planning on playing for a day or two, you were looking in the wrong place anyway. You don't play a RP/town server for "a day or two", because it takes that long to get settled into a house. Also, it is actually another one of our servers rules that we ban anyone asking for mod/admin rights or privelages. We have a team of very capable mods and admins, I have no interest or desire to get any more on bored or get "constructive critisism" from any others - you'll find that a lot of most servers actually, generally the admin doesn't like it when another admin comes on and goes "oh hey, you're doing this wrong" - generally because that new guy has no idea of the internal structure of the server at all.
Anyway, back to my original point: I'm really not THAT bothered if you use our plugins, because it is the configs that make it unique. For example, our custom block plugin ships with 19 blocks - we have 500+. The magic plugin comes with 55 spells, we have 200, and so on. The only reason I'm still replying is because I find it funny, that you're so upset about being banned to start with that you're STILL raging here. Frankly, you strike me as the kind of "admin" who is either:
- A 13-14 year old, who'll have a server for a month, realize how much hard work it is and give up;
- Not an admin at all, just saying it to **** me off, and failing miserably.
Frankly I find it quite pathetic really... you're acting like you're so big and tough and to be honest, I really don't care. You keep trying to point out "errors" without our server such as doubled up plugins, when there is a reason for everything we have. Oh, and you didn't get the entire list anyway, one of our biggest plugins is still out of date and that one is a complete gamechanger. So yeah, keep posting as much as you want, its quite funny, but for now I'm making you as a troll.Oh, and I forgot to say - your little rage is getting us free bumps. I'd actually given up on MCF, we're getting apps here again now all thanks to you
User name*:Epicspencer
Age*:14
Location/Time Zone*: America EST
Did someone refer you?: Nope
Minecraft Version (eg 1.8.1)*:1.2.5
Land/Town: Tennebrae
Job*: Farmer
Race: Pyshic
Name: Leroy Keinobe
Age*: 20
Bio*: My parents were fine and good thank you very much. My birth was normal, I came out health if a bit more aware looking than average, my parents came out alive, all fine and good. There was some weird omen about me going insane and killing my faimly in cold blood. But, really, who doesn't get that? I grew up in an average way, nothing too exicting but still enjoyable. On my 12th birthday, I met this weird crazy looking dude who said he could unlock my hidden potenial. I agree, but kept my had at my club's handle. He did some weird magiks and i woke up in my house with floating objects. After that it all kinda went downhill.
Silvania
Bio all seems a bit.... strange. It leaves a LOT unanswered, like who's the old man, why did you kill your parents and quite a bit more. If you could add that it'd be great
Also, Tennebrae has merged into Valthraxus as of the new map.
That plugin was an exception to the last week - Until now, it didn't have a Bukkit Dev page so I'd been watching its forum page, he only put the notice for bukkit dev up there 3 days ago which is when I installed it.
"I had an interest in playing your server. Maybe for a day or two. Maybe I would have played it later... But, it's your loss to be banning admins or soon to be admins and not getting help from many more people who have experience."
If you were planning on playing for a day or two, you were looking in the wrong place anyway. You don't play a RP/town server for "a day or two", because it takes that long to get settled into a house. Also, it is actually another one of our servers rules that we ban anyone asking for mod/admin rights or privelages. We have a team of very capable mods and admins, I have no interest or desire to get any more on bored or get "constructive critisism" from any others - you'll find that a lot of most servers actually, generally the admin doesn't like it when another admin comes on and goes "oh hey, you're doing this wrong" - generally because that new guy has no idea of the internal structure of the server at all.
Anyway, back to my original point: I'm really not THAT bothered if you use our plugins, because it is the configs that make it unique. For example, our custom block plugin ships with 19 blocks - we have 500+. The magic plugin comes with 55 spells, we have 200, and so on. The only reason I'm still replying is because I find it funny, that you're so upset about being banned to start with that you're STILL raging here. Frankly, you strike me as the kind of "admin" who is either:
- A 13-14 year old, who'll have a server for a month, realize how much hard work it is and give up;
- Not an admin at all, just saying it to **** me off, and failing miserably.
Frankly I find it quite pathetic really... you're acting like you're so big and tough and to be honest, I really don't care. You keep trying to point out "errors" without our server such as doubled up plugins, when there is a reason for everything we have. Oh, and you didn't get the entire list anyway, one of our biggest plugins is still out of date and that one is a complete gamechanger. So yeah, keep posting as much as you want, its quite funny, but for now I'm making you as a troll.
Oh, and I forgot to say - your little rage is getting us free bumps. I'd actually given up on MCF, we're getting apps here again now all thanks to you
"...but for now I'm making you as a troll."
The real reason I came here was to say that I got your plugins. I don't care if some were hidden because posting here has led me to better plugins than I had on my server. MobLoot was one. One of your plugins does more than that.
55 to 200 magic spells? 19 to 200 blocks? I don't care to make my server that complex.
You also didn't see my point. One to two days could turn into weeks could turn in to months. You never know.
I know a lot about the internal structure of a server. I just don't know it like the back of my hand like you do.
Oh yeah, keeping the plugins in your server and updating them is a lot like leeching.
The real reason I came here was to say that I got your plugins. I don't care if some were hidden because posting here has led me to better plugins than I had on my server. MobLoot was one. One of your plugins does more than that.
55 to 200 magic spells? 19 to 200 blocks? I don't care to make my server that complex.
You also didn't see my point. One to two days could turn into weeks could turn in to months. You never know.
I know a lot about the internal structure of a server. I just don't know it like the back of my hand like you do.
Oh yeah, keeping the plugins in your server and updating them is a lot like leeching.
"Your little rage is getting us free bumps."
You scratch my back, I scratch yours.
...How is keeping the plugins up to date anything like leeching? At least I put in the effort to find the list of plugins I have myself.
Trust me when I say that across the entire server community leeching is heavily frowned upon. Frankly, I don't care to share lists of that kind of stuff with other servers, I'm just saying that if another server found you to be leeching they may not feel quite the same - MCbans can be a very useful tool, or a very powerful enemy - and leeching IS something they will globally ban for (meaning you couldn't use their plugins either).
And if you're an admin with an active server, you don't have the time to spend a day on another server. Just sayin'.
Age*: 16
Location/Time Zone*: U.S.A Central
Did someone refer you?: No
Minecraft Version (eg 1.8.1)*: 1.2.4
Land/Town: Valthraxus
Job*: Armourer
Race: Warrior
Name: If you wish to use your exact Minecraft username, leave blank: Fletcher O'Riley
Age*: 20
Bio*:Born normally, raised normally, I Worked with my dad at the blacksmith shop to grow up to be a great blacksmith, Worked dawn 'til dusk working to be the best blacksmith ever known, Always obedient, loyal, ran away once when 8 but then found later my parents were always, nice to me, and pampered, and spoiled me. I was a normal kid always never weird, awkward just plain normal, when my grandfather died, my dad explained to me what was really going on in this world, and I never thought of the place as I peaceful place anymore after that. He told me that the world was in chaos politically the world was a hard one to live on and to make the best of it.
Silvania Wins (did I spell that right?)
Simple but works, accepted.
I believe you already posted previously on our forums - if you have keep it there as its easier for us. If I'm mistaken let me know.
The last line leaves questions, add the following:
- What did your dad tell you?
- Why did it change your opinion on the world?
Also, its "Silvania"
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User name*: bmo2623
Age*: 16
Location/Time Zone*: U.S.A Central
Did someone refer you?: No
Minecraft Version (eg 1.8.1)*: 1.2.4
Land/Town: Valthraxus
Job*: Armourer
Race: Warrior
Name: If you wish to use your exact Minecraft username, leave blank: Fletcher O'Riley
Age*: 20
Bio*:Born normally, raised normally, I Worked with my dad at the blacksmith shop to grow up to be a great blacksmith, Worked dawn 'til dusk working to be the best blacksmith ever known, Always obedient, loyal, ran away once when 8 but then found later my parents were always, nice to me, and pampered, and spoiled me. I was a normal kid always never weird, awkward just plain normal, when my grandfather died, my dad explained to me what was really going on in this world, and I never thought of the place as I peaceful place anymore after that. He told me that the world was in chaos politically the world was a hard one to live on and to make the best of it.
Silvania Wins (did I spell that right?)
EDIT: Oh! I understand. It's April Fools today....... Then again, that's not very funny.
Reported to moderators for threatening us.
I only banned you because I go on gut instinct with greylisters, and if I feel its not good for the server to get a guy on, I'll ban them. You proved with your post, I made the right choice. Frankly, a player who is interested in playing a server generally wont care what plugins its using, as long as they enjoy playing it - its only other servers moderators and admins who kick up as much of a fuss as you are.
So, I say two things:
1. If you are an admin or planning to become one, the server is a competitive thing to run, and originality is the key. Copying another servers plugins wont get you anywhere, because you'll never catch them on the configs which takes years to hone to perfection.
2. Assuming you ARE a geniune player, maybe forget about the plugin list and try playing a server to see if you enjoy it. The bigger servers, like ImDeity, have private plugins anyway which you've probably never heard of either way - hey, we have a fun - for all you know the NPCs are one of the private ones (Oh, all my plugins I make are hidden from the list by the way).
Anyway, TL;DR? The fact you're posting here and going through all the plugins just suggests to me you really have nothing better to do with your life. I kind of hope you are number 1, at least then you'd be doing SOMETHING "productive" (If you can call it that)
EDIT: I should also point out that anything beyond a plugin you get from our server list (eg spout textures) are copyrighted to us, and if you use them anywhere else we WILL prosecute - Go ask the guy on PlanetMinecraft who copied this forum thread, he's paying our server bills now.
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Best. Response. Ever.
Put into the GGF thread on our forums.
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Oh, so you reported me to the moderators, huh? For what? Finding out what everyone else has access to. "/plugins" How hard is that? If a moderator does ban me, what is he really banning me for? Common knowledge? A person takes a candy out of a basket that says "FREE CANDY" gets his hand cut off?
Private plugins? Great! How about the plugins that you download that are available to the public? Shouldn't you and all other server admins give credit to where credit is due? I'm not asking for your own personal plugins, I just want to see what makes a good server a good server. It starts with the idea then the plugins. If a good, successful server is using a certain plugin, what makes me think that I shouldn't use that plugin? Looking through the long list of plugins and spotting the right ones may be a difficult task, so going to servers seems like a logical thing to do. I'd be an idiot if I were to try to make a server without knowing what works.
As for originality, having personal plugins doesn't make a server original, I'm pretty sure it's how you use them. Take WorldEdit for an example. The plugin is a great plugin for landscaping but if you don't do a good job, it looks terrible. I have a total of 27 plugins on my server so far and I've linked them and figured ways to have them complement each other. I'm thinking about making personal plugins some time in the future. They're nice, but it doesn't make the server. Also, think about this. Two servers have the same plugins, are they the same?
Nope.
Configs that I might never catch up to? Takes years to perfect them? Sure, I might never catch up to your configs and I might never perfect them (Perfecting configs? Really?), but who cares? I'm not trying to compete with the abnormally large servers. I'd much rather host a server that very few people play, that way, I can get to know the people I'm playing with.
I very much enjoyed playing on your server for the 5 minutes that I was on there. I saw what great setup you guys had and I might have played on it if I didn't get banned. I had just recently downloaded spout and your server was the third server I played on. In fact, it was the third large server that I played on that wasn't a private server.
So seeing that I had tried to talk to one of the guards and having him kill me, I was bothered to know what plugin you were using. As I hinted at before, I had been looking through hundreds of plugins and I found very few NPC plugins but not once did I see that you could use NPC's to defend a castle. Finding out what plugin you were using, would have been like finding a bucket of diamonds. I didn't make the diamonds, but I sure as heck can use them.
Yeah, I'll call this productive. Having a one on one chat with a server admin is a great way to get good advice on how to have a great server! I'm learning things like: not banning commands is a good way to get people off your server, larger servers compete with each other, you can hide plugins from the plugin list, and that putting textures on your server that you were forced to download isn't a good idea. Thanks for the input! I'm looking forward to your next post.
http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/bpermissions/
Now, if you apologize and stop acting like a douche, I'll be more than happy to help you as much I can to get your own unique server. Otherwise, I have no interest in what you have to say... you're arguments here are just falling over upon themselves.
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@Fleenix: I HAVE gotten the hang of plugin browsing. You have just been doing this for a long time, I have been doing this for a week or two. I know about permissions. I know about regions and security and a lot of things. Leeching, as you say it, is a negative word for what I'm doing. I'm looking for the plugins I'm missing on my server. Filling in the gaps. Looking through examples is a better phrase. (Also, aren't you a leecher too because you looked through the plugin list and you downloaded from other people's work. Stop being so hypocritical)
And you have no idea what you are talking about when you say I will NEVER be successful. So you can predict the future now? How do you know a month from now that my server won't just overtake yours. Take a look at Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. Bill worked at Mac, if I'm not mistaken. Bill left. Bill made a company. Now the two companies are competing against each other. Bill probably didn't take the original idea of mac. He made his own from scratch but he looked at the examples from the company and incorporated it in his own. I'm not stealing your plugins, I'm looking at the original idea and improving it.
And the only reason I'm posting here is because I was banned and I don't want to "sit down and take it from some server admin" who banned me for such a silly reason. Banning me because I don't seem appropriate for the server? Is that what you really thought when I asked you for the plugin(singular)? What if I was just curious? What if I was just trying to point out a hole in your server when I said "interesting /plugins"? Now that you know my reasons for going on your server, what was the benefit of kicking me? If there was any benefit, it would have been keeping me on. You and I could have talked about improving the server.
For example, one thing you can do is put your custom texture pack in dynmap in your texture pack folder so you can have your texturepack on the map. You have several outdated plugins. You have duplicates of plugins(crafting table options). I wont list them so I won't "threaten the safety of the server."
@hallo746: If you want me to leave the topic, then, fine, I will. I'm through with this. I've gotten as much help from your server as I can get.
*1. No, a plugin list is posted to the public domain, the authors WANT you to download the plugins. A server, on the other hand, is private domain - there is no permission node for /plugins - there used to be a plugin to block the command (which we had) but it broke when 1.2 was released.
*2. This example is irrelivant - Bill WORKED at mac, he had access freely to all the internals and stuff. What you did would be more like Bill buying a mac, hacking through the OS to find out how it works and basing microsoft off of that.
*3 In all fairness, I have a list of what I call "ban on sights" - it generally includes people who ask for creative, people who clearly didn't read anything, people who want mod/admin rights and people who have no interest in playing the server - When you take everything else away you fall into Cat. 4 - if you don't have interest in playing the server, I don't have any interest in wasting my time with you. Trust me, if and when your server does get going, you'll know how to pick out the players who aren't worth your time. In the few moments a day you get to look at the actual game, you don't want to waste it with people who aren't going to be directly enjoying what you have created. Any other free time you have will be spent in the FTP doing configs. (Which reminds me, if you plan on using some of the plugins we have, I really hope you have a VERY high-end server to run them on, they simply wont load on a $50 VPS.)
*4. You yourself said you were getting plugins to work together - Thats exactly why, for example, we have two crafting restriction plugins - both have different functionality and are used in different ways. As for "outdated plugins" - all our plugins are up to date as of last week, any that are "out of date" on their relevant pages, I have merely updated myself for private use. If the plugins go inactive then I'll release my repaired version for the public to use, but only then.
Paving the way to a better world!
Age*: 15/16 (in a few days)
Location/Time Zone*: USA, CA, PST
Did someone refer you?: Nope. Silvania wins?
Minecraft Version (eg 1.8.1)*: 1.2.4/ 1.2.5 (When it updates very soon)
Land/Town: Caelum/Harfang
Job*: Arcane Enchanter
Race: Battle Mage
Name: Genesis
Age*: 26
Bio*: I used to live in another world, known as Sol'rift. I was raised in my hometown, Oris, where magic was a power used by many of our people. When I was 15 a tragic accident has happened, in which the volcano Mt. Kraftus erupted. I was practicing my magic skills with my friend, Solstice, out in the woods, when we had seen the mighty eruption. The lava had traveled very fast as to reach us, and we had ran as fast as we could until the lava stopped flowing. We use our magic to create a frosty mist over the still lava to cool it and make a path. We slowly make it back to our hometown nearly destroyed if it hadn't been for the village elders' magic. After that incident I had devoted my life to studying the origins of magic, and creating new spells, to make sure the town could not be destroyed again. Until I wanted to seek more power, the power to control the powers of the nature. This had only lead to my fall. One day I had created a spell that was the possible spell of recreation of spirits. Instead it was too powerful for me to control, and I was warped into where I thought was the woods in which I used to be with my friend. It was not the woods, it was actually the world of Silvania. Soon enough I had encountered beings of which I was not familiar with. I had tried to interact with them, instead being barraged by arrows. I quickly try to use the magic I had created, but instead it had failed, as if my world's principles had not existed in this land. I quickly turned around and ran, but as soon as I ran 10 ft, an arrow had hit my foot. I thought I would have been done for in that spot, but suddenly lightning fell from the sky as if to protect me, and all sight had faded away, and when I regained my sight I was in a small cottage. And from then on my adventure continued to find out what happened on that day.
Location/Time Zone*:EST
Did someone refer you?:No
Minecraft Version (eg 1.8.1)*:1.2.4
Land/Town: Nation of Ramonia -- Town
Job*:Armourer
Race:Hunter
Name: Frosted Arrow
Age*: 15
Bio*: I'm just your average joe Minecraft player. I have always been good with Bows and Mid-Combat and enjoy it actually *coughSilvania Wins cough*. I enjoy factions and going to war with other factions, and thats why I would like to join this server.
I quite like it but unfortunately it messes with our lore a little - something that I know is out of your control as you didn't know
Could you change it from "creating" spells to "discovering" them? Its generally considered impossible to create new spells on the server (unless you're a god (me, with the configs )) but you can discover them and learn them - its the core of how magic works on the server actually
Please don't say "silvania wins" unless you actually read the guide. Which you CLEARLY didn't...
Also missing your IGN which is required
Paving the way to a better world!
Age*:14
Location/Time Zone*: America EST
Did someone refer you?: Nope
Minecraft Version (eg 1.8.1)*:1.2.5
Land/Town: Tennebrae
Job*: Farmer
Race: Pyshic
Name: Leroy Keinobe
Age*: 20
Bio*: My parents were fine and good thank you very much. My birth was normal, I came out health if a bit more aware looking than average, my parents came out alive, all fine and good. There was some weird omen about me going insane and killing my faimly in cold blood. But, really, who doesn't get that? I grew up in an average way, nothing too exicting but still enjoyable. On my 12th birthday, I met this weird crazy looking dude who said he could unlock my hidden potenial. I agree, but kept my had at my club's handle. He did some weird magiks and i woke up in my house with floating objects. After that it all kinda went downhill.
Silvania
You say very many untrue things. I had an interest in playing your server. Maybe for a day or two. Maybe I would have played it later when I fully develop my server. The plugin got my mind off the server. I just started to use Spout and if I had known more about Spout and all the info it held I might have known not to ask. But, it's your loss to be banning admins or soon to be admins and not getting help from many more people who have experience. I'll leave the ones on my server who do not have this "direct interest" because, who knows?, they may just develop it.
Now for this bit of info that disproves point 1 and partially disproves point 4. That plugin that blocks plugins that you mentioned. It has been updated since March 6. A whole month to implement the plugin. I've tested it on my server and it works. Maybe you didn't see that it was updated or maybe you didn't "perfect" that config file in the *plugin name* folder. Not going to use that plugin though. Not interested in hiding my plugins.
And I'm not hacking into the OS. I'm looking at the parts that are available to everyone, seeing if my computer can have that certain feature, and going out and "buying" them, not siphoning your custom made parts. (i.e. the usb port, the speakers. Not the logo, the hard drive, the power circuit.)
That plugin was an exception to the last week - Until now, it didn't have a Bukkit Dev page so I'd been watching its forum page, he only put the notice for bukkit dev up there 3 days ago which is when I installed it.
"I had an interest in playing your server. Maybe for a day or two. Maybe I would have played it later... But, it's your loss to be banning admins or soon to be admins and not getting help from many more people who have experience."
If you were planning on playing for a day or two, you were looking in the wrong place anyway. You don't play a RP/town server for "a day or two", because it takes that long to get settled into a house. Also, it is actually another one of our servers rules that we ban anyone asking for mod/admin rights or privelages. We have a team of very capable mods and admins, I have no interest or desire to get any more on bored or get "constructive critisism" from any others - you'll find that a lot of most servers actually, generally the admin doesn't like it when another admin comes on and goes "oh hey, you're doing this wrong" - generally because that new guy has no idea of the internal structure of the server at all.
Anyway, back to my original point: I'm really not THAT bothered if you use our plugins, because it is the configs that make it unique. For example, our custom block plugin ships with 19 blocks - we have 500+. The magic plugin comes with 55 spells, we have 200, and so on. The only reason I'm still replying is because I find it funny, that you're so upset about being banned to start with that you're STILL raging here. Frankly, you strike me as the kind of "admin" who is either:
- A 13-14 year old, who'll have a server for a month, realize how much hard work it is and give up;
- Not an admin at all, just saying it to **** me off, and failing miserably.
Frankly I find it quite pathetic really... you're acting like you're so big and tough and to be honest, I really don't care. You keep trying to point out "errors" without our server such as doubled up plugins, when there is a reason for everything we have. Oh, and you didn't get the entire list anyway, one of our biggest plugins is still out of date and that one is a complete gamechanger. So yeah, keep posting as much as you want, its quite funny, but for now I'm making you as a troll.Oh, and I forgot to say - your little rage is getting us free bumps. I'd actually given up on MCF, we're getting apps here again now all thanks to you
Bio all seems a bit.... strange. It leaves a LOT unanswered, like who's the old man, why did you kill your parents and quite a bit more. If you could add that it'd be great
Also, Tennebrae has merged into Valthraxus as of the new map.
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"...but for now I'm making you as a troll."
The real reason I came here was to say that I got your plugins. I don't care if some were hidden because posting here has led me to better plugins than I had on my server. MobLoot was one. One of your plugins does more than that.
55 to 200 magic spells? 19 to 200 blocks? I don't care to make my server that complex.
You also didn't see my point. One to two days could turn into weeks could turn in to months. You never know.
I know a lot about the internal structure of a server. I just don't know it like the back of my hand like you do.
Oh yeah, keeping the plugins in your server and updating them is a lot like leeching.
"Your little rage is getting us free bumps."
You scratch my back, I scratch yours.
...How is keeping the plugins up to date anything like leeching? At least I put in the effort to find the list of plugins I have myself.
Trust me when I say that across the entire server community leeching is heavily frowned upon. Frankly, I don't care to share lists of that kind of stuff with other servers, I'm just saying that if another server found you to be leeching they may not feel quite the same - MCbans can be a very useful tool, or a very powerful enemy - and leeching IS something they will globally ban for (meaning you couldn't use their plugins either).
And if you're an admin with an active server, you don't have the time to spend a day on another server. Just sayin'.
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