ME! No, that would be idiotic. Almost more so than spelling **** with two "k"s, or than running in the street. The real answer needs to be found out. When? I sure hope soon. The excitment is getting to me! I VOTED VIROS!
Hey everybody.... Some issues have arisen and i wont be able to get on for 2 weeks as of today. Sorry for any inconvienence I may be causing with my temporary departure.
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Ok guys, I can get on within the 2 weeks Im suppose to be gone... But I will not be on for the long time periods I was on before. So I will be on Minecraft as much as possible, but not as often as before for the remainder of these 2 weeks. Thank you
YAY VIROS! Now about P.o.t.I.H, we really like you, and loved back when we were pals, coencadentally during Viros's last reign! So now, as a friend, as a clan, and as a tradition, will you accet us as an alliance?
First, congratulations to VIROS on the election, and to the other candidates for participating. Let's make 2012 the Golden Year for KoA!
Secondly, like I have said, I think Alesgan needs reform, and we need it now. And regardless if I'm King, I think the people are ready. It's the citizens right to present to Council so I would like to do so. I just want to first propose some changes to the Alesgan Charter. My proposed changes are in red, and anything I agree with or simply want to comment on is in green.
It is within the rights and power of the Monarch to bypass popular vote and appoint Council Members provided the amount appointed never exceeds the amount elected by popular vote of the People. All laws should be passed through majority vote of the Council. The Monarch is free to present any legislation or laws.
It is within the rights and power of the Monarch to alter, abolish, or create any law at his or her discretion. All laws should be created, altered, and destroyed by majority vote of Council. The Monarch can certainly present ideas and give reasonings for any proposals.
It is within the rights and power of the Monarch to remove a Council member from office at his or her discretion. Should be a Council vote based on the citizens input.
It is within the rights and power of the Monarch to mete out bans at his or her discretion. Should be a Council vote. Although temporary bans with a max of 24 hours should be allowed for the Monarch and Council.
It is within the rights and power of the Monarch to issue orders to any Citizen of Alesgan which cannot be disobeyed without penalty. No. We don't need a dictator, rather a leader to represent us.
The Monarch will never appoint his or her own successor; Monarchs must always be elected by popular vote of the People. Agreed. Leave as is.
The number of Council Members elected by popular vote of the people must always exceed the number of Council Members appointed by the Monarch. Like stated before, all Council should be voted in by citizens.
The Council must always be composed of an odd number of Citizens. In the event the Council is composed of an even number of citizens, all Conciliar votes will be put on hold until an odd number of Council members can be reached. Agreed. We should have an odd number to act as a 'tie-breaker' for voting. After the Council passes something, the Monarch should be able to be the deciding vote to pass or veto. And if he vetoes, the Council should be able to re-vote and pass it with a 2/3 majority.
The Council reserves the right to veto any mandate enacted by the Monarch by majority vote. A mandate shall be defined as any act of the Monarch which exorcises his or her powers listed above. Yup.
The Council reserves the right to remove any member of Council from office by majority vote. The Council member in question of firing continues to be considered a Council member and continues to vote on all issues including their firing until they have been successfully voted out of office. Agreed.
The Council reserves the right to depose the monarch with a majority vote. Agreed. Also maybe consider a maximum term limit for Monarch/Council? Example, two terms and a three month max per term. Need citizens input on this.
The Monarch will have no vote in the Council. Like proposed, Monarch would vote after and pass/veto.
The Monarch may never be a member of Council. Agreed. Might want to add that they may not be Council while Monarch. It'd be fine if they were elected to Council after they had finished their term as Monarch.
The Council will never appoint a Monarch; Monarchs must always be elected by popular vote of the People. +1
The Council will never appoint a member of Council; Council members must always be appointed by the Monarch or elected by popular vote of the People. Yup.
It is the right of any Citizen to plead their case before the Council when banned. +1
It is the right of any Citizen to run for public office such as Council Member or Monarch. +1
It is the right of any Citizen to request an arbitrator from the Council to mediate disputes. +1
It is the right of any Citizen to present petition before the Council or Monarch. +1 Agreed citizens should get more involved.
Voting System Agree with it.
Sorry for the length. Tried to take out the titles to shorten it. Please comment on my comments and debate if you disagree with anything.
Otherwise, I would like to submit this to Council for a vote. Thank you.
Alright, thanks to all of your for your congratulations! I really do appreciate your votes and opinions. I'm getting straight to business now, going to make a few changes to make sure the clan is working at fullest capacity.
The Pirates of the Infinite Horizons' request for an alliance is accepted, we look forward to future association with them.
As is my right as King detailed in the Charter, I will be replacing the two appointed Counselors, Gousby and SookilV2, with Zoomzen and Ilaniol. The demoted Counselors will become Citizens, and I hope they will continue to participate in and improve on the clan.
With the unanimous consent of the Council and express permission of the reigning Monarch, the Alesgan Charter has had its first revision! Besides some changes in grammar and layout, the most important changes are these;
The election period is 3 days for a Counselor and 5 days for the Monarch.
The Council may decrown the Monarch with a unanimous vote.
The Council and Monarch are both granted the power to give and take citizenship with either a majority vote or a mandate, respectively.
Approved as of the 14th of January, 2012 at 4:21 PM EST by Counselor Zoomzen, Counselor Ilaniol, Counselor Mai2500, Counselor Church521, Counselor Wizardy, and King VIROS.
With the unanimous consent of the Council and express permission of the reigning Monarch, the Alesgan Charter has had its first revision! Besides some changes in grammar and layout, the most important changes are these;
The election period is 3 days for a Counselor and 5 days for the Monarch.
The Council may decrown the Monarch with a unanimous vote.
The Council and Monarch are both granted the power to give and take citizenship with either a majority vote or a mandate, respectively.
Approved as of the 14th of January, 2012 at 4:21 PM EST by Counselor Zoomzen, Counselor Ilaniol, Counselor Mai2500, Counselor Church521, Counselor Wizardy, and King VIROS.
This wasn't unanimous. First, Zoom stepped down, second, i wasn't even informed. Also, Does resigning from king automatically place you on council? That is three votes you are missing, unless I am completely wrong in some respect. Clear this up for me...
BTW: not saying I am against the changes, just saying that this isn't how it should be passed: with false votes. If I am not on (because I am a social teenager) send me a message on the forum, please.
SookilV2
Council (or maybe not, because no one told me.)
This wasn't unanimous. First, Zoom stepped down, second, i wasn't even informed. Also, Does resigning from king automatically place you on council? That is three votes you are missing, unless I am completely wrong in some respect. Clear this up for me...
BTW: not saying I am against the changes, just saying that this isn't how it should be passed: with false votes. If I am not on (because I am a social teenager) send me a message on the forum, please.
SookilV2
Council (or maybe not, because no one told me.)
If you read above, you and gous were fired, and zoom and il were hired.
That would be best for everybody.
ME! No, that would be idiotic. Almost more so than spelling **** with two "k"s, or than running in the street. The real answer needs to be found out. When? I sure hope soon. The excitment is getting to me! I VOTED VIROS!
No, we're not all dumb enough to fall for his **** again.
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Ok guys, I can get on within the 2 weeks Im suppose to be gone... But I will not be on for the long time periods I was on before. So I will be on Minecraft as much as possible, but not as often as before for the remainder of these 2 weeks. Thank you
Huzzah for viros
yeah...i think he might run into the street now.
He'll be fine.
Secondly, like I have said, I think Alesgan needs reform, and we need it now. And regardless if I'm King, I think the people are ready. It's the citizens right to present to Council so I would like to do so. I just want to first propose some changes to the Alesgan Charter. My proposed changes are in red, and anything I agree with or simply want to comment on is in green.
Sorry for the length. Tried to take out the titles to shorten it. Please comment on my comments and debate if you disagree with anything.
Otherwise, I would like to submit this to Council for a vote. Thank you.
Was wonderig that asecond ago
Approved as of the 14th of January, 2012 at 4:21 PM EST by Counselor Zoomzen, Counselor Ilaniol, Counselor Mai2500, Counselor Church521, Counselor Wizardy, and King VIROS.
This wasn't unanimous. First, Zoom stepped down, second, i wasn't even informed. Also, Does resigning from king automatically place you on council? That is three votes you are missing, unless I am completely wrong in some respect. Clear this up for me...
BTW: not saying I am against the changes, just saying that this isn't how it should be passed: with false votes. If I am not on (because I am a social teenager) send me a message on the forum, please.
SookilV2
Council (or maybe not, because no one told me.)
If you read above, you and gous were fired, and zoom and il were hired.