If you believe creationism, you're delusional.
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Gee thanks, that's like saying
If you're an atheist, you're retarded.
Doesn't matter who's right, no one listens to an insult.
There's a difference between 'retarded' and 'delusional.' It wasn't an insult, it's a fact. You believe stories written 2,000 years ago by bronze age sheep herders, but deny, just blatantly deny, well tested scientific fact. That is delusional.
If you believe creationism, you're delusional.
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Gee thanks, that's like saying
If you're an atheist, you're retarded.
Doesn't matter who's right, no one listens to an insult.
There's a difference between 'retarded' and 'delusional.' It wasn't an insult, it's a fact. You believe stories written 2,000 years ago by bronze age sheep herders, but deny, just blatantly deny, well tested scientific fact. That is delusional.
Herr Derr, maybe you should read my feelings on this whole thing. I think I explained how I believe in both quite well.
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"...But don’t worry, you’re not alone, there are many men like you left in the world, and some of them even used to be your friends. After all, this is America, and we only kill our friends." - Immortal Technique
'Belief' doesn't necessarily have Religious connotations, just most of the time.
Since it is the Theory of Evolution, do you 'believe' in Evolution would be the proper way to ask it.
Our understanding of the word "belief" is Christian. That same understanding has, since, been applied to science. Also, the same sort of persecution that went along with the importance of once's beliefs has also migrated from Christianity.
Example: the poor treatment of people who don't "believe" in evolution.
Perhaps we need a new word for "acceptance of and adherence to a position is probably true." I suggest something Latin-y. Unless your friend Heidegger already came up with one in German.
If you believe creationism, you're delusional.
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Gee thanks, that's like saying
If you're an atheist, you're retarded.
Doesn't matter who's right, no one listens to an insult.
There's a difference between 'retarded' and 'delusional.' It wasn't an insult, it's a fact. You believe stories written 2,000 years ago by bronze age sheep herders, but deny, just blatantly deny, well tested scientific fact. That is delusional.
Yet science made back at that time is crystal. I find it hard to see your reasoning.
Gee thanks, that's like saying
If you're an atheist, you're retarded.
Doesn't matter who's right, no one listens to an insult.
There's a difference between 'retarded' and 'delusional.' It wasn't an insult, it's a fact. You believe stories written 2,000 years ago by bronze age sheep herders, but deny, just blatantly deny, well tested scientific fact. That is delusional.
Yet science made back at that time is crystal. I find it hard to see your reasoning.
Gee thanks, that's like saying
If you're an atheist, you're retarded.
Doesn't matter who's right, no one listens to an insult.
There's a difference between 'retarded' and 'delusional.' It wasn't an insult, it's a fact. You believe stories written 2,000 years ago by bronze age sheep herders, but deny, just blatantly deny, well tested scientific fact. That is delusional.
Yet science made back at that time is crystal. I find it hard to see your reasoning.
What science? Going to quote that "geysers under the sea" thing from Job that Alcatraz (or maybe it was xxEyesightxx; I can hardly tell them apart) loved?
Herr Derr, maybe you should read my feelings on this whole thing. I think I explained how I believe in both quite well.
Ok? You're not as delusional as the rest. Congratulations. To believe that there is a creator is enough, but to believe that the creator of the universe, the perfect, all knowing, creator of the universe, actually wrote a book? And a mediocre one at that. If god is perfect, why would he give us this cryptic, poorly written ******** to interpret? Wouldn't he know that his poor writing would cause argument, and doubt? Obviously he would. It's just a rediculous notion.
Perhaps we need a new word for "acceptance of and adherence to a position is probably true." I suggest something Latin-y. Unless your friend Heidegger already came up with one in German.
Hypothesis (ὑπόθεσις) is a good Greek word for the task.
"I hypothesize that evolution is true."
See? No overzealous Dawkins-crazed dogmas asserted with that.
Ok? You're not as delusional as the rest. Congratulations. To believe that there is a creator is enough, but to believe that the creator of the universe, the perfect, all knowing, creator of the universe, actually wrote a book? And a mediocre one at that. If god is perfect, why would he give us this cryptic, poorly written ******** to interpret? Wouldn't he know that his poor writing would cause argument, and doubt? Obviously he would. It's just a rediculous notion.
Just to get you red in the face.
Ron Paul is a creationist. Look it up.
Also, his son is named Rand. Rand. As in Ayn Rand. The crazy one. With the insane economic philosophy. You can look that one up, too.
The point: Nobody is consistent and reasonable. Not even you.
I've rephrased the Poll title. Hopefully it doesn't connote Science as a Religious belief anymore.
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Going to quote that "geysers under the sea" thing from Job that Alcatraz (or maybe it was xxEyesightxx; I can hardly tell them apart) loved?
'Twas both. They were both a big fan of that one. Alcatraz (speaking of which, haven't seem him in a while. Was he banned for flaming?) also commonly used the dinosaurs in Job (I believe that's the chapter) argument as well.
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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. -Carl Sagan
The Universe is cool enough without making up crap about it - Phil Plait
If you believe creationism, you're delusional.
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Gee thanks, that's like saying
If you're an atheist, you're retarded.
Doesn't matter who's right, no one listens to an insult.
I stopped reading here to post this because im SOO ****ING SICK of creationists saying "Oh well if you're gonna down talk us, we wont talk to you athiests" and then they go on and downtalk EVERYTHING except the bible's word, which couldnt possibly have been changed in the 6k years they believe the worlds been around, could it? I can do it with a pen, and would if i didnt have respect for every religion.
To put this in perspective: Imagine that this was gravity. I'll use the the only argument any creationist has ever provided me-
"How can you be sure it's true? We don't really know, it's just a theory!"
Ok. What we think cause gravity is just a theory, too. It could be all wrong. It could actually be invisible dragons that are blowing on the Earth, keeping everything down. But, where are the dragons, you might ask. Where is the proof? And we have all this research, and evidence pointing to another conclusion!
If you're talking about the origin of life, I would say neither. If you're talking about how life got to where it is now, with all of it's variety, then evolution. Regardless, I don't believe in magic.
Ok? You're not as delusional as the rest. Congratulations. To believe that there is a creator is enough, but to believe that the creator of the universe, the perfect, all knowing, creator of the universe, actually wrote a book? And a mediocre one at that. If god is perfect, why would he give us this cryptic, poorly written ******** to interpret? Wouldn't he know that his poor writing would cause argument, and doubt? Obviously he would. It's just a rediculous notion.
Just to get you red in the face.
Ron Paul is a creationist. Look it up.
Also, his son is named Rand. Rand. As in Ayn Rand. The crazy one. With the insane economic philosophy. You can look that one up, too.
The point: Nobody is consistent and reasonable. Not even you.
I know he is. But he doesn't want to involve his religion in politics, nor does it effect his other principles that I agree with.
Basic math, chemistry, I mean really, it's not that hard to start listing them.
Basic metallurgy, irrigation, the wheel
But it is exceedingly obvious that they couldn't even begin to comprehend things that were bigger than their little patch of dirt. They thought the world was flat, for example. And yet, they know the origin of life.
and thats it. Many people believing in the same thing does not make it true. what more is there?
*there may or may not be cake
There's a difference between 'retarded' and 'delusional.' It wasn't an insult, it's a fact. You believe stories written 2,000 years ago by bronze age sheep herders, but deny, just blatantly deny, well tested scientific fact. That is delusional.
Herr Derr, maybe you should read my feelings on this whole thing. I think I explained how I believe in both quite well.
Perhaps we need a new word for "acceptance of and adherence to a position is probably true." I suggest something Latin-y. Unless your friend Heidegger already came up with one in German.
You heard that, green and red.
Yet science made back at that time is crystal. I find it hard to see your reasoning.
Yeah, and now it's not.
There's no definitive proof that evolution is true, either. In some sense, evolutionists are delusional, too.
What science? Going to quote that "geysers under the sea" thing from Job that Alcatraz (or maybe it was xxEyesightxx; I can hardly tell them apart) loved?
You heard that, green and red.
Ok? You're not as delusional as the rest. Congratulations. To believe that there is a creator is enough, but to believe that the creator of the universe, the perfect, all knowing, creator of the universe, actually wrote a book? And a mediocre one at that. If god is perfect, why would he give us this cryptic, poorly written ******** to interpret? Wouldn't he know that his poor writing would cause argument, and doubt? Obviously he would. It's just a rediculous notion.
Hypothesis (ὑπόθεσις) is a good Greek word for the task.
"I hypothesize that evolution is true."
See? No overzealous Dawkins-crazed dogmas asserted with that.
Nothing in science is ever completely proven. But there is a huge amount of evidence for evolution, enough to know that is happens.
Just to get you red in the face.
Ron Paul is a creationist. Look it up.
Also, his son is named Rand. Rand. As in Ayn Rand. The crazy one. With the insane economic philosophy. You can look that one up, too.
The point: Nobody is consistent and reasonable. Not even you.
'Twas both. They were both a big fan of that one. Alcatraz (speaking of which, haven't seem him in a while. Was he banned for flaming?) also commonly used the dinosaurs in Job (I believe that's the chapter) argument as well.
The Universe is cool enough without making up crap about it - Phil Plait
I stopped reading here to post this because im SOO ****ING SICK of creationists saying "Oh well if you're gonna down talk us, we wont talk to you athiests" and then they go on and downtalk EVERYTHING except the bible's word, which couldnt possibly have been changed in the 6k years they believe the worlds been around, could it? I can do it with a pen, and would if i didnt have respect for every religion.
"How can you be sure it's true? We don't really know, it's just a theory!"
Ok. What we think cause gravity is just a theory, too. It could be all wrong. It could actually be invisible dragons that are blowing on the Earth, keeping everything down. But, where are the dragons, you might ask. Where is the proof? And we have all this research, and evidence pointing to another conclusion!
Now apply that to Evolution.
I know he is. But he doesn't want to involve his religion in politics, nor does it effect his other principles that I agree with.
Basic math, chemistry, I mean really, it's not that hard to start listing them.
Basic metallurgy, irrigation, the wheel
What.
But it is exceedingly obvious that they couldn't even begin to comprehend things that were bigger than their little patch of dirt. They thought the world was flat, for example. And yet, they know the origin of life.
Clearly..