19 votes for "AMG YES SPACE EXPLORATION IS SO RELEVENT!!" Is this serious? What have people actually done in space? Plant a flag? Take pictures? Bring back rocks? FIND ALIENS AMG!?!?!?!? I'm sorry, but all space exploration programs do is throw away money.
establish weather, and GPS satellites, and a global communication network. We have peered into the DEEPEST regions of the visible universe and uncovered countless wonders and secrets. we have greatly expanded our knowledge of the sun, and the other planets in our solar system.
and that is only scratching the surface. so don't give me that "space is a waste" nonsense.
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Yes, completely unreasonable, hence the incredibly small number I gave for the mass ratio.
it would be likely you would reach Mars before you accelerate up to 1/4 light speed.
Yes, you would.
100% of it is converted into energy
Not usable energy. There's a big difference.
we just don't have a means to harness it efficiently as an energy source.
And we never will, unless we manage to discover a 5th fundamental force of nature which, up until this point, hasn't existed in any measurable form (also it's required that that force allow neutrinos to interact strongly with ordinary matter). The amount of energy carried away by neutrinos is some ridiculous fraction on the order of 2/3 of the total energy of the reaction.
The efficiency limit isn't some technological challenge to be overcome, it's an actual physical limitation, period. Antimatter will likely never be a viable fuel source.
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Space is life and everything. Earth isn't the center of everything and we need to explore our world, not just Earth. When I say world I mean the universe or most likely the solar system. There's many things we can learn about it and knowledge is a great thing. We could use telescopes to find out information but we wouldn't have the actual experience to be out there in the solar system.
I think it's a great idea to continue space travel.
I'm curious, for peop who support space exploration, would you permit me to not pay for it? Or am I supposed to be forced to pay for it through taxation?
I'm curious, for peop who support space exploration, would you permit me to not pay for it? Or am I supposed to be forced to pay for it through taxation?
Would the government just permit you not too pay for the billions of dollars each year for killing each other? The trillion dollars that's been spent on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is all tax payers money. I don't think that all of that money is necessary, but it's not like they let you pass if you don't want to pay.
You aren't really being forced. They're taxes. You're being forced to pay your taxes. That's the whole point...
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19 votes for "AMG YES SPACE EXPLORATION IS SO RELEVENT!!" Is this serious? What have people actually done in space? Plant a flag? Take pictures? Bring back rocks? FIND ALIENS AMG!?!?!?!? I'm sorry, but all space exploration programs do is throw away money.
And what if Christopher Columbus hadn't decided to sail across the Atlantic? All he brought was a few slaves and food. All he did was waste money. But the whole point, is that we wanted to know what else was out there.
We've explored every corner of the Earth. Are we just supposed to stay where we are, looking at our feet, feeling no curiosity about anything? It's part of Human nature to want to learn more about the Universe. And the fact that some people don't see that saddens me.
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Carl Sagan has been a huge inspiration. He taught me everything about Space.
I love Carl Sagan. His series was what interested me in Space to begin with. I have two copies of Cosmos (Paper back and hard cover), Pale Blue Dot, and Comets. All be Carl Sagan. He was a phenomenal man.
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I think they should invest more into super-telescopes and space probes to FIND something interesting before sending a bunch of astronauts to go hang out on a space-station for three months for ten billion dollars of tax money.
Eventually we will have to expand, but I think we should wait until our advances in technology and science will allow us to do so with a reasonable cost.
establish weather, and GPS satellites, and a global communication network. We have peered into the DEEPEST regions of the visible universe and uncovered countless wonders and secrets. we have greatly expanded our knowledge of the sun, and the other planets in our solar system.
and that is only scratching the surface. so don't give me that "space is a waste" nonsense.
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Retired StaffYes, completely unreasonable, hence the incredibly small number I gave for the mass ratio.
Yes, you would.
Not usable energy. There's a big difference.
And we never will, unless we manage to discover a 5th fundamental force of nature which, up until this point, hasn't existed in any measurable form (also it's required that that force allow neutrinos to interact strongly with ordinary matter). The amount of energy carried away by neutrinos is some ridiculous fraction on the order of 2/3 of the total energy of the reaction.
The efficiency limit isn't some technological challenge to be overcome, it's an actual physical limitation, period. Antimatter will likely never be a viable fuel source.
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I think it's a great idea to continue space travel.
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Would the government just permit you not too pay for the billions of dollars each year for killing each other? The trillion dollars that's been spent on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is all tax payers money. I don't think that all of that money is necessary, but it's not like they let you pass if you don't want to pay.
You aren't really being forced. They're taxes. You're being forced to pay your taxes. That's the whole point...
And what if Christopher Columbus hadn't decided to sail across the Atlantic? All he brought was a few slaves and food. All he did was waste money. But the whole point, is that we wanted to know what else was out there.
We've explored every corner of the Earth. Are we just supposed to stay where we are, looking at our feet, feeling no curiosity about anything? It's part of Human nature to want to learn more about the Universe. And the fact that some people don't see that saddens me.
I love Carl Sagan. His series was what interested me in Space to begin with. I have two copies of Cosmos (Paper back and hard cover), Pale Blue Dot, and Comets. All be Carl Sagan. He was a phenomenal man.
The Universe is cool enough without making up crap about it - Phil Plait
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