I have to ask, WHY is MLP so popular? Especially amongst people on here.
It seems to girly, gay and childish....
Do the same people also like anime?
imma let you finish, but let me spam a link to my blog in response. Basically, that tries to cover a lot of it. I go off-track some though and end up somehow talking about Star Trek but oh well.
Like I note in the post, I went in with very low expectations, just like I did for minecraft, actually.
Now, as to your three points:
"girly":
Well, there certainly isn't a hard argument one can make against it- after all, it's not filled with macho robots or explosions or superheroes with superpowers. Well, I guess it sort of has the last one but that is something of a stretch. For the most part, all the "girly" ness can easily be attributed to corporate meddling; after all, they weren't trying to make a gender-neutral television show, they were targeting a specific market at the time to try to sell their wares. The difference, I think, between the earlier version and the new version (which I base on assumptions about the first version from the 80's because there is no way in hell I'm going to be watching those, low expectations or otherwise) will likely be that this newer version basically tries to skin the limits of the limitations they put on, and some bits easily slip under the radar; whereas the earlier ones probably didn't need limitations set at all and they (the producers/animators/etc) went to create a show designed specifically for selling the toys, possibly with very little pride in their work. Now, naturally, it's not for everybody. The ponies themselves are usually coloured in various hues such as purple, pink, and pastels that are often associated with the female gender. A better question is why that is the case, but I digress. They are however, animated ****ing beautifully; the realistic animation of their manes during movement left me flabberghasted that the bloody thing was done in flash. Having experienced the creation of flash videos and realizing just how much work it is to add some minute, and innocuous details made me feel that there was a lot of pride on the part of the creators; after all, they could have easily gotten away with just moving the symbol up and down, say, when Rainbow dash or another pegasus pony is hovering, but they took the time, in each instance, the animate their manes and tail reacting to their oscillation; same with walking, running, moving their head. I can still watch it now and notice such little nuances and am still blown away by the expertise that went into it. Yes, there are some pithy bits like the letters at the end and a few tidbits here and there, but personally I like the contrast that sort of thing can provide with my other favourite shows, compare, for example, Charles Lister from Red Dwarf With Twilight Sparkle.
"gay"
Freddie Mercury was a Homosexual. That doesn't mean Queen's music isn't ****ing awesome, though. Well, unless you are a homophobe, I suppose.
"childish...."
Now, I will contend that you MAY have something of a point here, given that the show is, obviously, intended for that demographic. But I can't help but wonder, personally, why they would pay such close attention to little details like the manes/tails swaying in response to movement/wind/etc and so forth, when clearly their "target demographic" isn't going to nitpick that type of thing. Again, they take pride in their work, and this extends to the writers, who try to make things appeal to nearly any audience. In particular the various puns that wouldn't be "got" by most in the "childish "bracket, such as the "nightmare moon"/"mare in the moon" which works not only because mare is the name for a female horse but also because mare is the singular latin word for "sea" and is used to describe the patches, or "maria" of plains on the moon. Hell I didn't even get the equine->Equestria reference at all until a few days ago. I also rather liked the exploration of the ideas of Critical Thinking in the "Bridle Gossip" episode, even if they sort of took a backwards step in that regard with "Feeling Pinkie Keen", which is my least favourite episode, Aesop-wise. Have I personally learned anything from it? Well, aside from the fact that book titles with long, alliterative and possibly redundant names are kind of funny, no. But compared to the cartoons I would watch as a kid, I feel this one is better done. Even if the theme song isn't as catchy as Duck Tales, it makes up for it by not being STUCK IN YOUR HEAD AT THE WORST TIMES. Like, say you are at the altar and the minister says "And do you, XXX take this woman to be your lawfully wedded wife", would you rather accidentally blurt out "DUCK TALES WOOHOO" or, "I used to wonder what love could be, until you shared it's magic with me" etc. I mean, see, the second one might actually pass for a vow. IT COULD SAVE YOUR MARRIAGE.
Do the same people also like anime?
Don't get me started, man. I honestly find anime, just weird. People say "oh I like the style" but the "style" they refer to a lot of the time is just sheer laziness. Now, that said, there is a GOOD anime style, but I haven't seen a lot of it. Perhaps that has changed. The problem is some people lump them together. I mean, really, "Pokemon" and "Dragonball Z" and "Yu Gi Oh" are nowhere near the awesomeness of, say, "Spirited away". Hell the former 3 make me laugh my ass off even if I just stumble upon them changing channels. what is it with their animators and hair?
Naturally, in closing, MLP itself isn't for everyone. But there are definitely likable qualities to some people, and there is certainly no need for generalization of it's fans.
Don't be trolling Soulfox, we all know that won't happen.
*Nudges people to stop spamming pics*
Am I right guys?
Hopefully. I've been wanting to tell you people to stop with the chatting, pic and video posting, but I know you people would've ignored it. Unfortunately, I've not come across any important, discussable pieces of information for use in this thread, so I myself cannot start a topic.
He told me he's deleting the Religion thread and the Furry thread too, in addition to this one. So... Piratebay thinks he knows what's best for the board, even though he never uses it.
Hopefully. I've been wanting to tell you people to stop with the chatting, pic and video posting, but I know you people would've ignored it. Unfortunately, I've not come across any important, discussable pieces of information for use in this thread, so I myself cannot start a topic.
Well make one up using the daily topic then.
To go on the new suggestion for a topic, my favorite flash back in the Cutie Mark Chronicles was actually Rarity's.
In Cutie Mark Chronicles, remember when she did the sonic rainboom? Honestly, you would think RD would be famous to present day for it.
Remember when these 6 ordinary Ponies ventured out to stop an ancient evil from bringing eternal darkness? You think they'd all be famous to present day for it.
Remember when these 6 ordinary Ponies ventured out to stop an ancient evil from bringing eternal darkness? You think they'd all be famous to present day for it.
He told me he's deleting the Religion thread and the Furry thread too. So... Piratebay thinks he knows what's best for the board, even though he never uses it.
So in a sense then, he is going to delete the three threads that generally stick to the main thread made for said topic. That's just dumb.
This is the second time I've had to tell you now, ask him yourself if you think I'm a troll.
It's not that hard, if you aren't extremely lazy.
Would it be too much to ask for you to quote your recent PM exchange with Piratebay? There have been recent reports of Piratebay not acting like Piratebay regularly would, and I'm feeling a bit paranoid.
Would it be too much to ask for you to quote your recent PM exchange with Piratebay? There have been recent reports of Piratebay not acting like Piratebay regularly would, and I'm feeling a bit paranoid.
He told me it over IRC, right after locking my thread for the General Off Topic IRC channel and calling me an untrustworthy IRC channel owner.
Since you've failed to provide the necessary proof, I'm going to disregard everything you've said.
But still, fellow Bronies, this is a fair warning for what might happen if we continue to use this thread for chatting.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/disregard
Disregard means you're not going to take it as a fair warning, it means you're going to take it as 0 warning. Get on the IRC if you need convincing ._. if you knew about Piratebay's behavior you'd have no trouble simply saying "Okay. Now back to talking about ponies."
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/disregard
Disregard means you're not going to take it as a fair warning, it means you're going to take it as 0 warning. Get on the IRC if you need convincing ._. if you knew about Piratebay's behavior you'd have no trouble simply saying "Okay. Now back to talking about ponies."
Sorry, I didn't have a dictionary on me at the time. :tongue.gif:
And there's nothing wrong with being a tad bit paranoid, especially when someone arrives at a thread you love saying it's going to be deleted.
imma let you finish, but let me spam a link to my blog in response. Basically, that tries to cover a lot of it. I go off-track some though and end up somehow talking about Star Trek but oh well.
Like I note in the post, I went in with very low expectations, just like I did for minecraft, actually.
Now, as to your three points:
"girly":
Well, there certainly isn't a hard argument one can make against it- after all, it's not filled with macho robots or explosions or superheroes with superpowers. Well, I guess it sort of has the last one but that is something of a stretch. For the most part, all the "girly" ness can easily be attributed to corporate meddling; after all, they weren't trying to make a gender-neutral television show, they were targeting a specific market at the time to try to sell their wares. The difference, I think, between the earlier version and the new version (which I base on assumptions about the first version from the 80's because there is no way in hell I'm going to be watching those, low expectations or otherwise) will likely be that this newer version basically tries to skin the limits of the limitations they put on, and some bits easily slip under the radar; whereas the earlier ones probably didn't need limitations set at all and they (the producers/animators/etc) went to create a show designed specifically for selling the toys, possibly with very little pride in their work. Now, naturally, it's not for everybody. The ponies themselves are usually coloured in various hues such as purple, pink, and pastels that are often associated with the female gender. A better question is why that is the case, but I digress. They are however, animated ****ing beautifully; the realistic animation of their manes during movement left me flabberghasted that the bloody thing was done in flash. Having experienced the creation of flash videos and realizing just how much work it is to add some minute, and innocuous details made me feel that there was a lot of pride on the part of the creators; after all, they could have easily gotten away with just moving the symbol up and down, say, when Rainbow dash or another pegasus pony is hovering, but they took the time, in each instance, the animate their manes and tail reacting to their oscillation; same with walking, running, moving their head. I can still watch it now and notice such little nuances and am still blown away by the expertise that went into it. Yes, there are some pithy bits like the letters at the end and a few tidbits here and there, but personally I like the contrast that sort of thing can provide with my other favourite shows, compare, for example, Charles Lister from Red Dwarf With Twilight Sparkle.
"gay"
Freddie Mercury was a Homosexual. That doesn't mean Queen's music isn't ****ing awesome, though. Well, unless you are a homophobe, I suppose.
"childish...."
Now, I will contend that you MAY have something of a point here, given that the show is, obviously, intended for that demographic. But I can't help but wonder, personally, why they would pay such close attention to little details like the manes/tails swaying in response to movement/wind/etc and so forth, when clearly their "target demographic" isn't going to nitpick that type of thing. Again, they take pride in their work, and this extends to the writers, who try to make things appeal to nearly any audience. In particular the various puns that wouldn't be "got" by most in the "childish "bracket, such as the "nightmare moon"/"mare in the moon" which works not only because mare is the name for a female horse but also because mare is the singular latin word for "sea" and is used to describe the patches, or "maria" of plains on the moon. Hell I didn't even get the equine->Equestria reference at all until a few days ago. I also rather liked the exploration of the ideas of Critical Thinking in the "Bridle Gossip" episode, even if they sort of took a backwards step in that regard with "Feeling Pinkie Keen", which is my least favourite episode, Aesop-wise. Have I personally learned anything from it? Well, aside from the fact that book titles with long, alliterative and possibly redundant names are kind of funny, no. But compared to the cartoons I would watch as a kid, I feel this one is better done. Even if the theme song isn't as catchy as Duck Tales, it makes up for it by not being STUCK IN YOUR HEAD AT THE WORST TIMES. Like, say you are at the altar and the minister says "And do you, XXX take this woman to be your lawfully wedded wife", would you rather accidentally blurt out "DUCK TALES WOOHOO" or, "I used to wonder what love could be, until you shared it's magic with me" etc. I mean, see, the second one might actually pass for a vow. IT COULD SAVE YOUR MARRIAGE.
Don't get me started, man. I honestly find anime, just weird. People say "oh I like the style" but the "style" they refer to a lot of the time is just sheer laziness. Now, that said, there is a GOOD anime style, but I haven't seen a lot of it. Perhaps that has changed. The problem is some people lump them together. I mean, really, "Pokemon" and "Dragonball Z" and "Yu Gi Oh" are nowhere near the awesomeness of, say, "Spirited away". Hell the former 3 make me laugh my ass off even if I just stumble upon them changing channels. what is it with their animators and hair?
Naturally, in closing, MLP itself isn't for everyone. But there are definitely likable qualities to some people, and there is certainly no need for generalization of it's fans.
EDIT: oh yeah, 2 to the power of 10th post!
Don't be trolling Soulfox, we all know that won't happen.
*Nudges people to stop spamming pics*
Am I right guys?
Edit: Also, since you posted the same exact thing in the furry thread, I know you are not telling the truth.
I'm not trolling at all. Ask him yourself if you don't believe me. And the reason he gave was "So the forums will be less spammy."
Hopefully. I've been wanting to tell you people to stop with the chatting, pic and video posting, but I know you people would've ignored it. Unfortunately, I've not come across any important, discussable pieces of information for use in this thread, so I myself cannot start a topic.
Well make one up using the daily topic then.
To go on the new suggestion for a topic, my favorite flash back in the Cutie Mark Chronicles was actually Rarity's.
"A ROCK!"
Remember when these 6 ordinary Ponies ventured out to stop an ancient evil from bringing eternal darkness? You think they'd all be famous to present day for it.
Equestria needs newspapers and red carpet.
So in a sense then, he is going to delete the three threads that generally stick to the main thread made for said topic. That's just dumb.
You know what these newspapers should be called? Equestria Daily.
Also, to keep on topic: I'd say my favorite flashback was RD's, because her squeaky voice is just so adorable.
He's quite an oblivious fellow.
This is the second time I've had to tell you now, ask him yourself if you think I'm a troll.
It's not that hard, if you aren't extremely lazy.
Would it be too much to ask for you to quote your recent PM exchange with Piratebay? There have been recent reports of Piratebay not acting like Piratebay regularly would, and I'm feeling a bit paranoid.
He told me it over IRC, right after locking my thread for the General Off Topic IRC channel and calling me an untrustworthy IRC channel owner.
Since you've failed to provide the necessary proof, I'm going to disregard everything you've said.
But still, fellow Bronies, this is a fair warning for what might happen if we continue to use this thread for chatting.
I know you're an idiot, but what am I?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/disregard
Disregard means you're not going to take it as a fair warning, it means you're going to take it as 0 warning. Get on the IRC if you need convincing ._. if you knew about Piratebay's behavior you'd have no trouble simply saying "Okay. Now back to talking about ponies."
Sorry, I didn't have a dictionary on me at the time. :tongue.gif:
And there's nothing wrong with being a tad bit paranoid, especially when someone arrives at a thread you love saying it's going to be deleted.