I think that a bunch of friends of mine and I should gather up a bunch of guns, steal a large parcel of land by slaughtering the people who live there until they give us the deed, and build a town. Anyone who doesn't agree with our rules should be shot or locked in a steel cage with other people of the same sex who will inevitably start raping them. Rules are subject to change any time we feel like it. Everyone who lives in our town has to chip in money or they are shot/put into the rape cage. No one can come into our town unless we say, so rape cages or death for outside intruders who aren't like us. We also don't like that plant you have, so rape cages for people who grow or possess that plant. No one is allowed to own their house in our town. Everyone pays rent. Don't pay? Rape cage or death. If you wanna open a business? Gotta pay an extra special rent. Don't pay? Rape cage. Everyone in our town has to accept the money we print, just an FYI. If you use some other money we can't keep track of how you chip in for everything. No using other money. Do it? Rape cage up in this ****.
Here's what we give you in return -
1. If someone rapes you who we didn't permit, give us a call and we'll check it out. If we find them, we'll throw them into a rape cage for a couple years, maybe.
2. If someone murders you, we'll show up after the fact and look around and have someone look at your corpse and maybe see who did it. If we find them, rape cage or death.
3. If someone steals your ****. we'll take a report.
4. We'll make sure the roads are usable. We will of course rent you a piece of plastic that allows you to use them. If we catch you without your special piece of plastic, snap! You go into the cage.
5. We'll let you call yourself "Free"
I think that this idea is totally awesome and it's how everyone else should live. If some other town does things differently, we round up a bunch of folks from our town and send them over to this other town and have them put to death or put into rape cages. Of course you'll have to pay to get our guys over to the other town, and pay for when they get hurt, and pay for them to eat. Everybody has to chip in. Don't chip in? Rape cage or death.
So who else wants to join in with my awesome plan? (Mind you, if you don't... RAPE CAGE OR DEATH)
Better than the alternative, which is to say better than being preyed upon by those stronger than you and having no established organizations at least masquerading as attempting to defend you.
I'm sorry but I really don't get anarchism. It would work in a perfect world, but this is not a perfect world.
Anarchism, Utopiaism, even Distopiaism would never work.
We're good with what we've got now.
The fact you recognize this post is "what we've got now" and believe it is good speaks about your morals.
It's a highly dramatized version of what we have now.
If you word it correctly, you can make anything look like that.
"Great idea: Send our young people to a bleak, poorly lit building for eight hours a day to learn outdated models of the physical universe, heroically dramatized events about the past slanted to make us look like the good guys always, and how to speak exactly how everyone else should speak.
If they don't behave, we'll cage them in a room with the other delinquents and force-feed the knowledge down their throats. Then, just to drive it home, we'll give them a bit of this knowledge to take home with them every day so they don't go off learning any other ideas."
"Great idea: Send our children off to a facility run by the state free of charge to the citizens to learn about our physical universe, past events, and how to speak eloquently and correctly.
If they should misbehave, we'll isolate them from the rest of the class and give them some personal attention while keeping them focused on their studies. And so their brains don't rot at home with the television and the internet, we'll give them some work to keep it fresh in their minds at home."
Two ways of describing the public educational system, the first putting an extreme negative slant on it, the second putting a moderately positive slant on it.
Anarchism, Utopiaism, even Distopiaism would never work.
We're good with what we've got now.
The fact you recognize this post is "what we've got now" and believe it is good speaks about your morals.
I don't think you understood me.
I'm good with the system of democracy with underlying socialism we have now. A system of no rule, or no free will, wouldn't work.
I don't care much if you and a bunch of people choose to live in your system, but the current model would imprison me, or kill me, for choosing to withold my "consent".
I don't care much if you and a bunch of people choose to live in your system, but the current model would imprison me, or kill me, for choosing to withold my "consent".
There are still areas of Terra Nullius on the planet, albeit they're rather inhospitable so good luck with that.
Our current system isn't perfect, but it's still leaps and bounds ahead of removing all government. Remove the government, and everyone stronger than you has the ability to kill you or imprison you without your consent.
I mean, why the hell do you think government was even conceived in the first place? I don't mean the first major governments, I mean small conglomerates of subsistence farmers banding together to provide for each others' defense.
I don't care much if you and a bunch of people choose to live in your system, but the current model would imprison me, or kill me, for choosing to withold my "consent".
There are still areas of Terra Nullius on the planet, albeit they're rather inhospitable so good luck with that.
Our current system isn't perfect, but it's still leaps and bounds ahead of removing all government. Remove the government, and everyone stronger than you has the ability to kill you or imprison you without your consent.
I mean, why the hell do you think government was even conceived in the first place? I don't mean the first major governments, I mean small conglomerates of subsistence farmers banding together to provide for each others' defense.
How do you know government is superior to no government? Where is your evidence? I would feel the fact that democide is the second largest killer of humans in the past century speaks volumes of what you are supporting.
I find it kinda funny that you believe that killing and imprisoning individuals without their consent is wrong, but support the system that is built around it.
How do you know government is superior to no government? Where is your evidence? I would feel the fact that democide is the second largest killer of humans in the past century speaks volumes of what you are supporting.
I find it kinda funny that you believe that killing and imprisoning individuals without their consent is wrong, but support the system that is built around it.
Okay, let's say the government DOES go around exterminating those who go against it. Rape-caging them and whatnot. How is no government at all preferable for the majority that is left untouched?
They go unnoticed by our NAZI DICATORSHIP GOVERNMENT, but once that's removed anyone stronger or better armed than them can barge down their doors and kill them on a whim.
Individuals who once devoted their power to enhancing their minds, researching and developing new technologies, would be squashed underfoot of the physically strong or those who had mind to stockpile firearms.
And government would eventually reform, unless you had some sort of group of people to stop new governments from arising (Thus being a government themselves, in a way).
As for the "lack of evidence", I have no evidence that running outside in the nude slathered in bacon grease wouldn't be an amazing experience, but common sense dictates it'd be ****ing stupid and probably get a large predator or two on me.
How do you know government is superior to no government? Where is your evidence? I would feel the fact that democide is the second largest killer of humans in the past century speaks volumes of what you are supporting.
I find it kinda funny that you believe that killing and imprisoning individuals without their consent is wrong, but support the system that is built around it.
Okay, let's say the government DOES go around exterminating those who go against it. Rape-caging them and whatnot. How is no government at all preferable for the majority that is left untouched?
They go unnoticed by our NAZI DICATORSHIP GOVERNMENT, but once that's removed anyone stronger or better armed than them can barge down their doors and kill them on a whim.
Individuals who once devoted their power to enhancing their minds, researching and developing new technologies, would be squashed underfoot of the physically strong or those who had mind to stockpile firearms.
And government would eventually reform, unless you had some sort of group of people to stop new governments from arising (Thus being a government themselves, in a way).
As for the "lack of evidence", I have no evidence that running outside in the nude slathered in bacon grease wouldn't be an amazing experience, but common sense dictates it'd be ****ing stupid and probably get a large predator or two on me.
I think you need to research more. It's like if I tried to argue about cars. You obviously base your judgements on common sense and not rationality.
I think you need to research more. It's like if I tried to argue about cars. You obviously base your judgements on common sense and not rationality.
And that's a bad thing? Common sense has gotten me this far in life. The only major bodily injuries I've ever suffered were suffered during lapses of common sense. The only major misfortunes I've had have been suffered during lapses of common sense, or were resultant of circumstances out of my control.
But I'll agree, I do probably need to research more. Perhaps you could point me in the right direction, give me an unbiased source of information on the subject.
Why rape?
I always thought the best form of government is one where the punishment is the same no matter what the crime: death.
And that counts for all infractions, even petty things like jaywalking and littering, although most enforcers would probably turn a blind eye to those.
I think you need to research more. It's like if I tried to argue about cars. You obviously base your judgements on common sense and not rationality.
And that's a bad thing? Common sense has gotten me this far in life. The only major bodily injuries I've ever suffered were suffered during lapses of common sense. The only major misfortunes I've had have been suffered during lapses of common sense, or were resultant of circumstances out of my control.
But I'll agree, I do probably need to research more. Perhaps you could point me in the right direction, give me an unbiased source of information on the subject.
There is no such thing as unbiased. My first intellectual introduction to liberty was with reading Defending the Undefendable. It's a fantastic book, here's the free pdf.
I think that a bunch of friends of mine and I should gather up a bunch of guns, steal a large parcel of land by slaughtering the people who live there until they give us the deed, and build a town. Anyone who doesn't agree with our rules should be shot or locked in a steel cage with other people of the same sex who will inevitably start raping them. Rules are subject to change any time we feel like it. Everyone who lives in our town has to chip in money or they are shot/put into the rape cage. No one can come into our town unless we say, so rape cages or death for outside intruders who aren't like us. We also don't like that plant you have, so rape cages for people who grow or possess that plant. No one is allowed to own their house in our town. Everyone pays rent. Don't pay? Rape cage or death. If you wanna open a business? Gotta pay an extra special rent. Don't pay? Rape cage. Everyone in our town has to accept the money we print, just an FYI. If you use some other money we can't keep track of how you chip in for everything. No using other money. Do it? Rape cage up in this ****.
Here's what we give you in return -
1. If someone rapes you who we didn't permit, give us a call and we'll check it out. If we find them, we'll throw them into a rape cage for a couple years, maybe.
2. If someone murders you, we'll show up after the fact and look around and have someone look at your corpse and maybe see who did it. If we find them, rape cage or death.
3. If someone steals your ****. we'll take a report.
4. We'll make sure the roads are usable. We will of course rent you a piece of plastic that allows you to use them. If we catch you without your special piece of plastic, snap! You go into the cage.
5. We'll let you call yourself "Free"
I think that this idea is totally awesome and it's how everyone else should live. If some other town does things differently, we round up a bunch of folks from our town and send them over to this other town and have them put to death or put into rape cages. Of course you'll have to pay to get our guys over to the other town, and pay for when they get hurt, and pay for them to eat. Everybody has to chip in. Don't chip in? Rape cage or death.
So who else wants to join in with my awesome plan? (Mind you, if you don't... RAPE CAGE OR DEATH)
http://anarchyinyourhead.com/
http://www.strike-the-root.com/
http://mises.org/
I'm sorry but I really don't get anarchism. It would work in a perfect world, but this is not a perfect world.
We're good with what we've got now.
The fact you recognize this post is "what we've got now" and believe it is good speaks about your morals.
http://anarchyinyourhead.com/
http://www.strike-the-root.com/
http://mises.org/
I don't think you understood me.
I'm good with the system of democracy with underlying socialism we have now. A system of no rule, or no free will, wouldn't work.
It's a highly dramatized version of what we have now.
If you word it correctly, you can make anything look like that.
"Great idea: Send our young people to a bleak, poorly lit building for eight hours a day to learn outdated models of the physical universe, heroically dramatized events about the past slanted to make us look like the good guys always, and how to speak exactly how everyone else should speak.
If they don't behave, we'll cage them in a room with the other delinquents and force-feed the knowledge down their throats. Then, just to drive it home, we'll give them a bit of this knowledge to take home with them every day so they don't go off learning any other ideas."
"Great idea: Send our children off to a facility run by the state free of charge to the citizens to learn about our physical universe, past events, and how to speak eloquently and correctly.
If they should misbehave, we'll isolate them from the rest of the class and give them some personal attention while keeping them focused on their studies. And so their brains don't rot at home with the television and the internet, we'll give them some work to keep it fresh in their minds at home."
Two ways of describing the public educational system, the first putting an extreme negative slant on it, the second putting a moderately positive slant on it.
I don't care much if you and a bunch of people choose to live in your system, but the current model would imprison me, or kill me, for choosing to withold my "consent".
http://anarchyinyourhead.com/
http://www.strike-the-root.com/
http://mises.org/
There are still areas of Terra Nullius on the planet, albeit they're rather inhospitable so good luck with that.
Our current system isn't perfect, but it's still leaps and bounds ahead of removing all government. Remove the government, and everyone stronger than you has the ability to kill you or imprison you without your consent.
I mean, why the hell do you think government was even conceived in the first place? I don't mean the first major governments, I mean small conglomerates of subsistence farmers banding together to provide for each others' defense.
How do you know government is superior to no government? Where is your evidence? I would feel the fact that democide is the second largest killer of humans in the past century speaks volumes of what you are supporting.
I find it kinda funny that you believe that killing and imprisoning individuals without their consent is wrong, but support the system that is built around it.
http://anarchyinyourhead.com/
http://www.strike-the-root.com/
http://mises.org/
Okay, let's say the government DOES go around exterminating those who go against it. Rape-caging them and whatnot. How is no government at all preferable for the majority that is left untouched?
They go unnoticed by our NAZI DICATORSHIP GOVERNMENT, but once that's removed anyone stronger or better armed than them can barge down their doors and kill them on a whim.
Individuals who once devoted their power to enhancing their minds, researching and developing new technologies, would be squashed underfoot of the physically strong or those who had mind to stockpile firearms.
And government would eventually reform, unless you had some sort of group of people to stop new governments from arising (Thus being a government themselves, in a way).
As for the "lack of evidence", I have no evidence that running outside in the nude slathered in bacon grease wouldn't be an amazing experience, but common sense dictates it'd be ****ing stupid and probably get a large predator or two on me.
I think you need to research more. It's like if I tried to argue about cars. You obviously base your judgements on common sense and not rationality.
http://anarchyinyourhead.com/
http://www.strike-the-root.com/
http://mises.org/
And that's a bad thing? Common sense has gotten me this far in life. The only major bodily injuries I've ever suffered were suffered during lapses of common sense. The only major misfortunes I've had have been suffered during lapses of common sense, or were resultant of circumstances out of my control.
But I'll agree, I do probably need to research more. Perhaps you could point me in the right direction, give me an unbiased source of information on the subject.
I always thought the best form of government is one where the punishment is the same no matter what the crime: death.
And that counts for all infractions, even petty things like jaywalking and littering, although most enforcers would probably turn a blind eye to those.
There is no such thing as unbiased. My first intellectual introduction to liberty was with reading Defending the Undefendable. It's a fantastic book, here's the free pdf.
http://mises.org/books/defending.pdf
It's not quite about anarchy, but it's a good place to start to understand why the state is against freedom. Just a glance at it is worthwhile.
http://anarchyinyourhead.com/
http://www.strike-the-root.com/
http://mises.org/
I assume you do realize that this is a joke on how this is the system people support when they support government. It's not my style, i took it from:
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/general/say-gang-i've-got-this-great-idea!/
http://anarchyinyourhead.com/
http://www.strike-the-root.com/
http://mises.org/
You're attacking logical statements with horseshit, tropez. If you believe he's wrong, explain why, instead of plugging your ears and shouting.