this has been annoying me for some time now, everytime someone brings up what video game you like, and I mention halo, everyone will say something along the lines of "OMg halo r wurst game ever"
what the hell is going on?
was just in IRC not long ago, and after some people talking about video game develepors for some time, I said "I admire bungie for there ability to implement game balance to such an extent" and about 20 users said something along the lines of : Oh halo sucks, you must be nine, go die . etc etc. and when confronting them the next day I asked why they said these things and they said it was because I was a "halo fanboy"
(for one quick sentence that didn't even compare halo to other games?)
Seriously? its one thing to "dislike a game" its another thing to assume that its a "bad" game because you dislike it.
if you read this and you "hate" halo, seriously, keep it to your self, atleast say you dislike it, do not imply that because you and your gang of "super cool friends" dislike it, its a bad game.
some people dont like minecraft because they dont like the idea of building things/they dont like the graphics.
does that mean minecraft is a "bad" game? no.
whats even worse is some of the excuses for hating halo. I can handle a simple "I dislike the gameplay mechanics/story etc" but stupid things like, "ITS SO UNreAlistic LOL!" and "because it just sucks" really show that you only hate it because its a "cool" thing to do.
who ever started this "hating popular things is cool" trend needs to shut up, seriously ; popular things are popular for a reason, and no matter how many fans you flame/abuse, its still going to be popular.
I'd like to support anti "hating popular things is cool"; but skinny jeans, sideways hats, and this trend itself are all gaining popularity...I still in no way support any of these.
Bungie did do an amazing thing for console multiplayer matchmaking, which streamlined the process enough that it did become popular to the masses of console users. Unfortunately, when you make things accessible to the lowest common denominator you end up having a lot of them. A lot like how these forums have quite a few people who have never heard of Google, or even links from threads they reading. A browser based multiplayer game? As easy to access as anything.
But yeah, Halo. First one was a fun little romp whose only real flaw was extreme laziness on part of the level designers. Then the monster of a problem that was the executives rushing the release of the sequels before the games were fully developed. Then due to the extreme easy of playing and the relative success of the first game a bunch of idiots started to converge on it and proclaim it as the best game ever. From here the popularity of the game seemed to be from idiots. From there other idiots who didn't have access to it noticed that people who didn't play the game accused it of many things, and assumed it was the cool thing to do. Much like how our own idiots began to be harsh to the less verbally competent idiots here, trying to be popular by being harsh.
Ultimately a knee-jerk reaction should be regarded as something an idiot does. Either have a reason behind your hate or don't express it. And it needs to be YOUR reason that something earned your dislike. If you peronally played some online matches that you are allowed to criticize the playerbase. If you played the single-player campaigns then you are allowed to complain about the level design.
Bungie did do an amazing thing for console multiplayer matchmaking, which streamlined the process enough that it did become popular to the masses of console users. Unfortunately, when you make things accessible to the lowest common denominator you end up having a lot of them. A lot like how these forums have quite a few people who have never heard of Google, or even links from threads they reading. A browser based multiplayer game? As easy to access as anything.
But yeah, Halo. First one was a fun little romp whose only real flaw was extreme laziness on part of the level designers. Then the monster of a problem that was the executives rushing the release of the sequels before the games were fully developed. Then due to the extreme easy of playing and the relative success of the first game a bunch of idiots started to converge on it and proclaim it as the best game ever. From here the popularity of the game seemed to be from idiots. From there other idiots who didn't have access to it noticed that people who didn't play the game accused it of many things, and assumed it was the cool thing to do. Much like how our own idiots began to be harsh to the less verbally competent idiots here, trying to be popular by being harsh.
Ultimately a knee-jerk reaction should be regarded as something an idiot does. Either have a reason behind your hate or don't express it. And it needs to be YOUR reason that something earned your dislike. If you peronally played some online matches that you are allowed to criticize the playerbase. If you played the single-player campaigns then you are allowed to complain about the level design.
The fact I actually got an Intelligent post regarding this topic made my day (or night :3)
mu entire ****ing school follows me around just to tell me that they think halo sucks this is a load of **** that they do ths anmd they do it because:
1:they play football im a nerd so they associate halo with nerds
2:they play cod.they tell me halo sucks just becauese once a week they get on modernwarfare and lose at matchmaking
3:they are assholes no more its just the truth
if people dont like the game good for them but its not bad just becaue they play an entirely different game and im even a bit of a call of duty hater its all just like each new one is a dlc and the newest one is just sitting on your back with a blurred screen while ais duke it out but seriosly im tired of halo i dont play it anymore but its not game its a universe books.read them? try the halo ones its not a game its a universe and seriosly in cod its jockeys playing a game about a war they dont even know about until they get the gamebut seriosly back ontopic halo and other things should not be hated for absalutely no reason its just *pardon my launguage* ****ing stupid
mu entire ****ing school follows me around just to tell me that they think halo sucks this is a load of **** that they do ths anmd they do it because:
1:they play football im a nerd so they associate halo with nerds
2:they play cod.they tell me halo sucks just becauese once a week they get on modernwarfare and lose at matchmaking
3:they are assholes no more its just the truth
if people dont like the game good for them but its not bad just becaue they play an entirely different game and im even a bit of a call of duty hater its all just like each new one is a dlc and the newest one is just sitting on your back with a blurred screen while ais duke it out but seriosly im tired of halo i dont play it anymore but its not game its a universe books.read them? try the halo ones its not a game its a universe and seriosly in cod its jockeys playing a game about a war they dont even know about until they get the gamebut seriosly back ontopic halo and other things should not be hated for absalutely no reason its just *pardon my launguage* ****ing stupid
Yup, your right, its not a just a series of games, its a universe, anime, books (story's and encyclopedia)
and yes, I have read A large part o the halo books :biggrin.gif:
If I was at your school I would probably have ended up fighting with every single one of those douchebags :/
I generally dislike Halo for the same reason I only play MW2 with friends, XBL is filled with ****ing idiots.
Heh... so is mw2 but No-one ever talks when I play mostly...
I honestly don't mind halo but its user bases really irks me into a homicidal rampage and then I bandwagon until I calm down at the idiots in the community..
Theres hate and love going back and forth, i just play it for the story and rarely i'll do some LAN MP with some friends just to beat them to death with a shotgun against their helmets.
I had tons of fun on PC multiplayer for halo one. The above description of it is not true. I love halo one.
For the rest of the series, I do the same as I do with Bioshock. I force the memory that sequels were made into the back of my mind. That way, I can look at them and think, "that was a really great game".
I enjoy playing halo with noobs because after they spawn snipe me a few times I learn where they all are and I just snipe them back and hunt the same person over and over again to claim vengance untill he gets all like "OMG HAXORS!!!!! U R A FAG N I COM @ UR HOUSE AND KILLZ U!!! *ragequit*
I lol at them then everyone else is all like "lol. He deserved it"
Anyone else like noob hunting?
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I was mostly left wondering what was so great about it. As far as I could tell, it brought almost nothing new to the table and didn't really do anything particularly well. It was an unremarkable game, a vanilla FPS, if you will. Why would people play it when games like Perfect Dark or Half Life existed?
So when a large group of people go around thinking it's the best game ever made simply because they've never played any good games before, yes, I'm going to try to tell them that it really isn't that great.
Of course, I never actually finished the single-player campaign of the game. I was doing it co-op with my brother, but we both got bored of it rather early on.
MrQuizzles, I'm surprised you mentioned Half-Life as something to reinforce your "Halo is a vanilla FPS" arguement. I'm damned sure I didn't find anything in HL or HL2 that wasn't something generic, the physics "puzzles" if you can call them puzzles, don't really constitute something "new". It was a minor feature that they wet their panties over and proclaimed it to be some mega-über feature that has never been seen before!
However, I still agree that Halo is as standard as any other FPS - it doesn't revolutionize FPS gaming, and it's fan-base is unfounded. The story isn't really that great, gameplay gets boring after you finish the story. The game isn't "bad" it's just filler material that got popular by chance -- and the sheep system of, if a couple of people like it, their friends will like it, and their friends friends, so and so forth.
Also, ALL ONLINE COMMUNITIES SUCK. Yes, that includes Minecraft, Halo, CoD and even the in-beta APB. Mhm, let me point out - APB is in a closed beta, so the community is pretty exclusive. Even though this is technically an NDA breach it's pretty obvious information. I was doing a "mission" and a cop got dispatched on me and killed me 5 times in a row (****ing camping sniper with no way to get to him with my crappy SMG). So I just let the mission fail. Then I got the SAME GUY dispatched on me. THE SAME ****ING GUY WHO KILLED ME 5 TIMES IN A ROW NOT 2 MINUTES AGO. So I said "Ugh, the matchmaking system sucks". Here are but a few of the replies I got:
Suck it up
Go cry about it
GTFO then go back to WoW
lrn2play (which they typed l2play. Fail, lrn2type)
In fact I didn't get a single intelligent reply -- and this is in a close community. Puts everything in perspective really, doesn't it.
What a lot of people don't seem to understand, is that a game doesn't have to be revolutionary for it to be good. It was a generic FPS, yes, but it was because it was a fairly simple system and the controls were easy to pick up that it became so mainstream. The multiplayer system at the time of Halo 2, for console, was something new because it did multiplayer/LAN and it did it well. I say this not because it was a completely new system, I say this because it was, again, easy to use. It took very little brains to set it up and jump online or set it up on LAN and play against your friends. Also, 4 player splitscreen multiplayer. Yes it was a major factor because this meant that it only took 4 friends with an xbox and a copy of the game, to enable 16 friends to play a single game against each other.
Most of this is about Halo 2 though. Halo CE was a solid game, and by the time Halo 3 rolled around the Halo name was immensely popular. Halo 3 did bring some innovation to the console though with the Theatre and Forge (I still don't understand why other games don't try to implement something like the Theatre.)
Also, when I was in HS, everybody played Halo 2 and Guitar Hero and in fact some of the most stereotypical jocks in the school were also some of the best at the games. You were pretty much laughed at if you hadn't played one of those two games.
I hate Modern Warfare 2 but I find Modern Warfare (1) to be acceptable. It's just, they focused too much on Multiplayer for my liking. Most games seem to these days. It's a sad loss for all of us who like a great story with our games.
I only play halo against my cousin. It's a compitition we have.
Gravity hammer vs. energy sword. Hell yeah.
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MrQuizzles, I'm surprised you mentioned Half-Life as something to reinforce your "Halo is a vanilla FPS" arguement. I'm damned sure I didn't find anything in HL or HL2 that wasn't something generic, the physics "puzzles" if you can call them puzzles, don't really constitute something "new". It was a minor feature that they wet their panties over and proclaimed it to be some mega-über feature that has never been seen before!
This is because you take it for granted nowadays. That wasn't true back in 1998 when Half Life originally came out.
what the hell is going on?
was just in IRC not long ago, and after some people talking about video game develepors for some time, I said "I admire bungie for there ability to implement game balance to such an extent" and about 20 users said something along the lines of : Oh halo sucks, you must be nine, go die . etc etc. and when confronting them the next day I asked why they said these things and they said it was because I was a "halo fanboy"
(for one quick sentence that didn't even compare halo to other games?)
Seriously? its one thing to "dislike a game" its another thing to assume that its a "bad" game because you dislike it.
if you read this and you "hate" halo, seriously, keep it to your self, atleast say you dislike it, do not imply that because you and your gang of "super cool friends" dislike it, its a bad game.
some people dont like minecraft because they dont like the idea of building things/they dont like the graphics.
does that mean minecraft is a "bad" game? no.
whats even worse is some of the excuses for hating halo. I can handle a simple "I dislike the gameplay mechanics/story etc" but stupid things like, "ITS SO UNreAlistic LOL!" and "because it just sucks" really show that you only hate it because its a "cool" thing to do.
who ever started this "hating popular things is cool" trend needs to shut up, seriously ; popular things are popular for a reason, and no matter how many fans you flame/abuse, its still going to be popular.
But yeah, Halo. First one was a fun little romp whose only real flaw was extreme laziness on part of the level designers. Then the monster of a problem that was the executives rushing the release of the sequels before the games were fully developed. Then due to the extreme easy of playing and the relative success of the first game a bunch of idiots started to converge on it and proclaim it as the best game ever. From here the popularity of the game seemed to be from idiots. From there other idiots who didn't have access to it noticed that people who didn't play the game accused it of many things, and assumed it was the cool thing to do. Much like how our own idiots began to be harsh to the less verbally competent idiots here, trying to be popular by being harsh.
Ultimately a knee-jerk reaction should be regarded as something an idiot does. Either have a reason behind your hate or don't express it. And it needs to be YOUR reason that something earned your dislike. If you peronally played some online matches that you are allowed to criticize the playerbase. If you played the single-player campaigns then you are allowed to complain about the level design.
The fact I actually got an Intelligent post regarding this topic made my day (or night :3)
1:they play football im a nerd so they associate halo with nerds
2:they play cod.they tell me halo sucks just becauese once a week they get on modernwarfare and lose at matchmaking
3:they are assholes no more its just the truth
if people dont like the game good for them but its not bad just becaue they play an entirely different game and im even a bit of a call of duty hater its all just like each new one is a dlc and the newest one is just sitting on your back with a blurred screen while ais duke it out but seriosly im tired of halo i dont play it anymore but its not game its a universe books.read them? try the halo ones its not a game its a universe and seriosly in cod its jockeys playing a game about a war they dont even know about until they get the gamebut seriosly back ontopic halo and other things should not be hated for absalutely no reason its just *pardon my launguage* ****ing stupid
Yup, your right, its not a just a series of games, its a universe, anime, books (story's and encyclopedia)
and yes, I have read A large part o the halo books :biggrin.gif:
If I was at your school I would probably have ended up fighting with every single one of those douchebags :/
Heh... so is mw2 but No-one ever talks when I play mostly...
I honestly don't mind halo but its user bases really irks me into a homicidal rampage and then I bandwagon until I calm down at the idiots in the community..
Former #minecraft channel operator.
For the rest of the series, I do the same as I do with Bioshock. I force the memory that sequels were made into the back of my mind. That way, I can look at them and think, "that was a really great game".
I lol at them then everyone else is all like "lol. He deserved it"
Anyone else like noob hunting?
So when a large group of people go around thinking it's the best game ever made simply because they've never played any good games before, yes, I'm going to try to tell them that it really isn't that great.
Of course, I never actually finished the single-player campaign of the game. I was doing it co-op with my brother, but we both got bored of it rather early on.
However, I still agree that Halo is as standard as any other FPS - it doesn't revolutionize FPS gaming, and it's fan-base is unfounded. The story isn't really that great, gameplay gets boring after you finish the story. The game isn't "bad" it's just filler material that got popular by chance -- and the sheep system of, if a couple of people like it, their friends will like it, and their friends friends, so and so forth.
Also, ALL ONLINE COMMUNITIES SUCK. Yes, that includes Minecraft, Halo, CoD and even the in-beta APB. Mhm, let me point out - APB is in a closed beta, so the community is pretty exclusive. Even though this is technically an NDA breach it's pretty obvious information. I was doing a "mission" and a cop got dispatched on me and killed me 5 times in a row (****ing camping sniper with no way to get to him with my crappy SMG). So I just let the mission fail. Then I got the SAME GUY dispatched on me. THE SAME ****ING GUY WHO KILLED ME 5 TIMES IN A ROW NOT 2 MINUTES AGO. So I said "Ugh, the matchmaking system sucks". Here are but a few of the replies I got:
Suck it up
Go cry about it
GTFO then go back to WoW
lrn2play (which they typed l2play. Fail, lrn2type)
In fact I didn't get a single intelligent reply -- and this is in a close community. Puts everything in perspective really, doesn't it.
Most of this is about Halo 2 though. Halo CE was a solid game, and by the time Halo 3 rolled around the Halo name was immensely popular. Halo 3 did bring some innovation to the console though with the Theatre and Forge (I still don't understand why other games don't try to implement something like the Theatre.)
Also, when I was in HS, everybody played Halo 2 and Guitar Hero and in fact some of the most stereotypical jocks in the school were also some of the best at the games. You were pretty much laughed at if you hadn't played one of those two games.
Gravity hammer vs. energy sword. Hell yeah.
The cushion is comfy and the works don't rust
With a straight line of vision to my Elvis bust
Watch the kingdom, eat the bread crust
This is because you take it for granted nowadays. That wasn't true back in 1998 when Half Life originally came out.
This. I could give my reasons, but most of it has already been said. (Generic FPS + too many ways to instant kill)
They're the halo equivalent to spiders.