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Gorgen and/or Keen, either of you feel like selling me some tanks and planes?

Oh, and evan - if Pergamese Greece is going to end up seceding from the Ottomans, it's highly likely that they'd end up in some sort of civil union with Greece, which would mean that they could logically declare the re-establishment of the Byzantine Empire, which would be sick. Someone do this.

Huggles already put the stomp on them.

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I'm fairly sure Hirohito already had cancer or some other illness that would make him die soon, so the AIDS is a bit of an overkill. Also, Feo made Japan allied with Poland back when he played, although with Akihito in place now it would be no problem to sever the ties if you so wish.

If your cancer has AIDS, would your cancer just die and you'd be okay?

Yeah. Hirohito's ads is a bit overkill and questionable on his person. He already has cancer, he's dying already.

Also it'd be amusing if you jumped into Japan during whatever civil unrest and to not quench it too early. We could use stuff like this playing out:


And I forget the name of that guy who tried to reinstate the Emperor's power so he attacked a police station with a katana. He eventually killed himself when the Emperor said, "No."


Japan is a pretty old-school place. There'd probably be enough political opposition within the nation that it'd break down into a mild civil-war. It's also a nation that very recently would have come out of feudalism.

A quick summary

After years of constant bickering among political figures, a decision was made. This decision would, of course, have some benefit to the canadian people and, in some cases would be common sense. Yet, before that decision is discussed, a summary of the recent four years of bad economy is in order.


First, crime, it has appeared and is causing some quite serious problems for canada. But, then again, every country has to deal with crime so Canada should be fine (hopefully). Second, the economy, it is, honestly unchanged over the years, with inflation and cold weather slowing economic growth, things are going just fine. Then there is the most popular issue of the nation’s military. Due to the financial constrictions of the nation, Canada has taken inspiration from the colonial-era british and currently, have their soldiers on a low wage. This, would make some people turn this wonderful opportunity down, but that isn’t anything a little desperation and drafting cannot fix, and yes, this may lower the morale of the troops, it saves Canada a pretty penny on situations such as recruiting more soldiers. Then the second to last item on the list, scientific development. This, is quite the interesting topic. A few months ago, seeing as they have already put so much research into it, have reopened bases on antarctica. Now, this isn’t for the lost cause of “finding fuel in the ice” that was being researched years ago. This is for the research in which the public would throw a fit about if they caught wind of such acts. Then that leads to the final subject, the culture. So far, Canada is in a state of preferring the old 40’s style of life. With the people listening to jazz and dancing out the nights. They think that the world is satisfactory, nothing more, nothing less.


Now, after going through a summary (very long for a summary though) of what has happened over the years that have passed, it is time to learn the decision that Canada that has made to hopefully reaffirm the trust of the people. That decision, is the “politician’s plan”. A plan in which Jaret Arnold (the crazy man) is to be eliminated. The genius of the plan is that it gets rid of a bad leader, and the only political repercussions that could happen are news articles and some rumors. So in theory, this is a decent plan. Of course, there is the little detail of why someone would do something like this. For some people, it is to reassure the trust of the people by not having a madman as head of state. For others, it is the opportunity to become prime minister.

Wow i leaned North Finland is making an arms factory, i must stop this.

Have electric guitars been invented yet? I want to do something similar to and maybe popularize orchestral metal. Because that'd be rad af.

I don't know... I think the few references to guitars that have been made have been acoustic.

The thing is, we haven't invented rock yet so metal is a ways a way. Right now China is pioneering the blues guitar and Africa has a sort of proto-jazz. Since Blues guitar begat Rock, Chinese music would probably be the catalyst for the appearance of a Precipice Elvis.

So instead of there being Thai Elvis impersonators, Elvis would actually be Thai.

China's favorite Africa has an old-school electric guitar. I'm pretty sure electrically amplified guitars are early enough in the lore/pre-lore that they'd exist.

The only issue is to evolve music to that point.

As Vilage said China took the blues and has been molding it into sort of proto-rock and roll. Ethiopia - through the southern blacks they took - have a sort of alternate form of jazz music going on. Europe I believe is likely to pick up bluegrass and other folk figures from white American conservatives who fled the violence of the North American wars and to get out of a socialist nation. Though in that event: their most likely stopping point would be Spain.

Armenia would probably be another place for psuedo-American music since American-Armenians went to Armenia to support the Armenian revolution.

The cultural influences and references are pretty scattered hard-core. Though the relationship between the US and China and the trade between them would get the Chinese Blues in touch with the original American blues, jazz, and folk mixtures and also taking them to China.

Yiaoliang Chen is the current big-name. He's something like the Chinese Paul McCartney.

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I don't know... I think the few references to guitars that have been made have been acoustic.

The thing is, we haven't invented rock yet so metal is a ways a way. Right now China is pioneering the blues guitar and Africa has a sort of proto-jazz. Since Blues guitar begat Rock, Chinese music would probably be the catalyst for the appearance of a Precipice Elvis.

That's the point - the guitar would simply back up the orchestra. It wouldn't be true metal, just orchestra with another instrument.

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That's the point - the guitar would simply back up the orchestra. It wouldn't be true metal, just orchestra with another instrument.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_guitar#History

Early experiments are certainly old enough, and the patents for the telephone transmitters in violins and banjos would most certainly be canonical.

And if you're going something like that, then I imagine it'd be bred from the kind of white-alteration of jazz that's stuff like Rhapsody in Blue. But with more electric...


But I imagine it'd be made to be more classical and "civilized". So maybe at a stretch, high-society Long Island flavored jazz.

Do basically: Rhapsody in Blue is Europe...

Africa and parts of the Mediterreanean will have something like this...


...but with some influences from Ethiopian coffee house music and a few African string instruments.

And China has...


...but with a mixture of Chinese folk music and communist propaganda.

Chinese Propoganda most likely being relegated to anything official to the government. This genre being referred to as xuānchuán. And will most likely take the form of the Opera Post.

Otherwise, there's censors to keep stuff like drug-abuse out, or anything that'd make cultural division and provoke anger in a state as diverse as China. And the censors real requirement in instrumentation is that it homages native style and instruments.

/me being corrective.

I return again!

And what's this about invading Mother Finland? HMM, Moose?

I imagine Italy's got a strong enough musical history to stand on its own, although there'd certainly be a lot of Spanish influence. Electric guitars playing Latin music would be orgasmic.

I think it's probably wrong to assume that music will eventually end up with the same genres we've got IOTL. There are a ton of unexplored possibilities with music; what's a concept album irl could be mainstream stuff in PoW.

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I imagine Italy's got a strong enough musical history to stand on its own, although there'd certainly be a lot of Spanish influence. Electric guitars playing Latin music would be orgasmic.

I think it's probably wrong to assume that music will eventually end up with the same genres we've got IOTL. There are a ton of unexplored possibilities with music; what's a concept album irl could be mainstream stuff in PoW.

I have no doubt you are right.

But I don't think any of us are qualified to come up with new genres. We are all inevitably going to have to mix what we know.

That being said, these things do develop in a certain order. I think we are copying traditional jazz and blues concepts because it is the most intuitive way we know of that gets us to modern forms of music. Without that, the typical genres of music could have went in very different directions.

Things could very well stick heavily to localized European tradition. So a lot of Accordion and Mandolin for the pop-music of Italy.

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I have no doubt you are right.

But I don't think any of us are qualified to come up with new genres. We are all inevitably going to have to mix what we know.

That being said, these things do develop in a certain order. I think we are copying traditional jazz and blues concepts because it is the most intuitive way we know of that gets us to modern forms of music. Without that, the typical genres of music could have went in very different directions.

Oh, yeah, we're definitely gonna have to use what we know. Just saying that maybe a mixture of a few genres would be better than the progression of music that happened irl.

For the most part too the progression of music has always sort of been the utilization of different genres. A few changes made to the new genre itself throughout its history could play a role too: such as the invention of the Power Chord. Though as a concept that took maybe ten years to reemerge after Link Wray first developed the Power Chord and the concept of the Overdrive without there being any equipment that'd actually do that, so he had to do it himself.

Music is one of those fun things because you can create a concept for an existing genre, but it'd ultimately be left forgotten by the greater pop-scene because it wasn't written by a popular personality.