haha thanks! I'm downloading linux 13.04 right now. I'm going to see how I like it and play some minecraft see how it goes on the old pentium laptop from who know's 2008? Thanks
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Oh BTW Im doing it with a thumbdrive
Probably a good idea to install from a thumb-drive, as you don't need to "waste" a CD/DVD.
I don't know what Pentuim cpu you have, but I have built a computer with 2,3 GB of RAM, Pentium 4 and Nvidia GT 210, and it's able to run minecraft at maybe 30 FPS average.
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I <3 Mechanical Keyboard (Tesoro Durandal G1NL) Just have to love it when someone changes the specs when comparing with and without optifine..
Probably a good idea to install from a thumb-drive, as you don't need to "waste" a CD/DVD.
I don't know what Pentuim cpu you have, but I have built a computer with 2,3 GB of RAM, Pentium 4 and Nvidia GT 210, and it's able to run minecraft at maybe 30 FPS average.
Im on a lagtop and I have a p6200 at 2.13ghz and its sucks. I play minecraft at fast and tiny at 25 fps max
If you plan to use to computer for mostly gaming, windows is the way to go.
If you only want to play minecraft, and other non-gaming stuff, you can use a Ubuntu-based linux distro. (Ubuntu has a large community, its easy to find help if you need it.)
If you need all the juice out your computer, try Xubuntu or Lubuntu. (Xubuntu is better, XFCE looks better than LXDE)
I personally use Ubuntu 12.04 w/cinnamon desktop environment. But the great thing about linux is that you can customize EVERYTHING.
If you do make the switch to linux, remember that you will need to do some command-based stuff, but after learning it, you'll be doing things in terminal more often. (Its quicker)
Or you can dual-boot windows and Linux.
I haven't had a problem with linux since I started.
Linux has good performance in most things. Viruses are rare, and if you happen to get one, they usually don't do damage unless they get root.
If you plan to use to computer for mostly gaming, windows is the way to go.
If you only want to play minecraft, and other non-gaming stuff, you can use a Ubuntu-based linux distro. (Ubuntu has a large community, its easy to find help if you need it.)
If you need all the juice out your computer, try Xubuntu or Lubuntu. (Xubuntu is better, XFCE looks better than LXDE)
I personally use Ubuntu 12.04 w/cinnamon desktop environment. But the great thing about linux is that you can customize EVERYTHING.
If you do make the switch to linux, remember that you will need to do some command-based stuff, but after learning it, you'll be doing things in terminal more often. (Its quicker)
Or you can dual-boot windows and Linux.
I haven't had a problem with linux since I started.
Linux has good performance in most things. Viruses are rare, and if you happen to get one, they usually don't do damage unless they get root.
Ok, then I think Ill be going with xubuntu. Also I know this is off subject and kinda nooby, but what is an nVidia telsa meant for? Is it good for gaming anyway?
Ok, then I think Ill be going with xubuntu. Also I know this is off subject and kinda nooby, but what is an nVidia telsa meant for? Is it good for gaming anyway?
Not really meant for gaming. Just stick with the Geforce GTX or Radeon HD for GPUs.
Can't you have like 10 telsa's in one machine though? I know that Im going to stick with gtx or radeon hd I just wanna know
Tesla is far stronger then quadros. Tesla is mostly designed for extreme of the extreme computer processing simple said. As said, Tesla is NOWHERE gaming grade, it will act like intel graphics in gaming. Tesla is made for directly using the GPU as a CPU basically.
CPUs consist of a few cores and threads.
GPUs now a days, consist of up to thousands.
Get it out of your head now, Tesla is designed for extreme. Mostly laboratories and places in which high precision and performance parrallel caclulations/processing is needed. One example is protein folding.
Threads are not CPU-level... "Hyper-threading" as a CPU feature doesn't have anything to do with threads at all, but simply duplicates some of the architectural parts of the ALU pipeline, while sharing an execution core.
Linux has good performance in most things. Viruses are rare, and if you happen to get one, they usually don't do damage unless they get root.
In other words, exactly like Windows. Privilege escalation exploits notwithstanding. (Not to mention that any distro that has a 'sudo' command is about as hard to get into as a tin can.
But the great thing about linux is that you can customize EVERYTHING.
True. But only if you want to waste time basically working on other people's software. Most of the software I find on Linux is entirely unconfigurable, or changes have occured that make it unworkable. I had to write a python script just to cycle wallpapers- all of the available applications for it didn't work with my desktop environment, and the one thing I found was a patch file to patch Drapes to work with it- which didn't work at all. The "configurability" argument falls flat on it's face when you realize that it actually entails making your own distro half the time.
If you do make the switch to linux, remember that you will need to do some command-based stuff, but after learning it, you'll be doing things in terminal more often. (Its quicker)
In other words, Linux's Desktop capabilities suck in terms of GUI tools, so it's better to use the same command shell that was used over 30 years ago. And people try to say Linux has progressed.
That's kind of a major misnomer, CPU cores are not the same as GPU cores.
It's like comparing a car to a field of skateboards.
Nowhere did I say this, not that I recall.
While the CPU may be doing serial processing, the GPU can do parrallel processing. Utilize that, and you can use the modern GPU in a way in which it never was really intended.
Threads are not CPU-level... "Hyper-threading" as a CPU feature doesn't have anything to do with threads at all, but simply duplicates some of the architectural parts of the ALU pipeline, while sharing an execution core.
Sadly I should have said such. But yes, the CPU does not have actual physical dual threads or "pipelines". It just simply to say, or the way I comprehend it, takes turns processing 2 different threads at once, instead a entire thread and then the next in line in a line.
It is not in my knowledge really, so I really should not bother to comment on such. As my information is probably wrong anyway.
While the CPU may be doing serial processing, the GPU can do parrallel processing. Utilize that, and you can use the modern GPU in a way in which it never was really intended.
CPU's are rarely doing serial processing anymore, they've been superscalar for a long time. It took awhile for GPU's to even become superscalar. They were only really parallel due to feeding groups of instructions to things like CUDA cores.
Though that's a bit of a misnomer too since the multiple logic units in a cpu core are about equal to groups of GPU cores, so they're not really that different. GPU's are just designed to repeat simple instructions in mass number as opposed to the complex fetch and decoding of CPU's.
Again, cars vs skateboards, skateboards have a lot of wheels to use that do very little while cars can turn and utilize their powerful engines rather than numbers. But of course the skateboards would probably be better at carrying a whale than one car would.
Holy crap! I don't even know about all of these 'piplelines' or crap. I just know the good parts and the good price. I was just asking a simple question about the tesla. Not a whole wikipage! We are here to talk about ubuntu! (sorry that I mentioned the tesla) That was just a quick question. I was'nt going to start all whole new thread on that. So back to the software (Ik not HARWARE!) But Im thinkiing about installing xubuntu so I can get all of the performance out of my computer withoout having to pay $90 for windows. The problem is is how do you install it? I cant instll it on a windows like I did with ubuntu. Help?!
Holy crap! I don't even know about all of these 'piplelines' or crap. I just know the good parts and the good price. I was just asking a simple question about the tesla. Not a whole wikipage!
If it were able to be expanded upon as simply as you asked the question, this forum would not exist and everyone would understand all aspects of computing without needing any education.
These things are complex, it's not like back in the day when you could say "x is better than y", there is much, much, much more to it now, as is what happens with advances in technology.
But Im thinkiing about installing xubuntu so I can get all of the performance out of my computer withoout having to pay $90 for windows. The problem is is how do you install it? I cant instll it on a windows like I did with ubuntu. Help?!
If you have to ask how to install a Linux distribution, it's not for you.
People are going to jump down my throat for this, but I actually recommend Windows 8. It's secure, it's supported, the Metro App store has some useful stuff in it, and the 8.1 update for it is coming out soon that will fix the niggling little doubts everyone's had about it. I fixed the Start button issue with a $2 application and it works great. The metro start screen isn't all that bad either (same with the start button, it's made better with a few modifications, I like the one where I can set up all my Steam games in their own private rectangles)
I also dual boot with the latest linux mint packages, but I've run minecraft servers with CentOS and Ubuntu Server. If you want to play minecraft in a linux enviroment, you should already see speed increases with a Ubuntu install.
For Gaming pick windows 7, If not then I suggest you use Ubuntu, I always enjoy using Linux compared to using Windows, But that's personal preference, so try Linux and see if you like it, if not just use Windows 7.
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Probably a good idea to install from a thumb-drive, as you don't need to "waste" a CD/DVD.
I don't know what Pentuim cpu you have, but I have built a computer with 2,3 GB of RAM, Pentium 4 and Nvidia GT 210, and it's able to run minecraft at maybe 30 FPS average.
Just have to love it when someone changes the specs when comparing with and without optifine..
Im on a lagtop and I have a p6200 at 2.13ghz and its sucks. I play minecraft at fast and tiny at 25 fps max
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If you only want to play minecraft, and other non-gaming stuff, you can use a Ubuntu-based linux distro. (Ubuntu has a large community, its easy to find help if you need it.)
If you need all the juice out your computer, try Xubuntu or Lubuntu. (Xubuntu is better, XFCE looks better than LXDE)
I personally use Ubuntu 12.04 w/cinnamon desktop environment. But the great thing about linux is that you can customize EVERYTHING.
If you do make the switch to linux, remember that you will need to do some command-based stuff, but after learning it, you'll be doing things in terminal more often. (Its quicker)
Or you can dual-boot windows and Linux.
I haven't had a problem with linux since I started.
Linux has good performance in most things. Viruses are rare, and if you happen to get one, they usually don't do damage unless they get root.
http://lubuntu.net/ good for low specs
http://xubuntu.org/ good for low specs
http://www.ubuntu.com/ good for everything
http://linuxmint.com/ good for everything
Ok, then I think Ill be going with xubuntu. Also I know this is off subject and kinda nooby, but what is an nVidia telsa meant for? Is it good for gaming anyway?
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Not really meant for gaming. Just stick with the Geforce GTX or Radeon HD for GPUs.
Can't you have like 10 telsa's in one machine though? I know that Im going to stick with gtx or radeon hd I just wanna know
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Tesla is far stronger then quadros. Tesla is mostly designed for extreme of the extreme computer processing simple said. As said, Tesla is NOWHERE gaming grade, it will act like intel graphics in gaming. Tesla is made for directly using the GPU as a CPU basically.
CPUs consist of a few cores and threads.
GPUs now a days, consist of up to thousands.
Get it out of your head now, Tesla is designed for extreme. Mostly laboratories and places in which high precision and performance parrallel caclulations/processing is needed. One example is protein folding.
Threads are not CPU-level... "Hyper-threading" as a CPU feature doesn't have anything to do with threads at all, but simply duplicates some of the architectural parts of the ALU pipeline, while sharing an execution core.
In other words, exactly like Windows. Privilege escalation exploits notwithstanding. (Not to mention that any distro that has a 'sudo' command is about as hard to get into as a tin can.
True. But only if you want to waste time basically working on other people's software. Most of the software I find on Linux is entirely unconfigurable, or changes have occured that make it unworkable. I had to write a python script just to cycle wallpapers- all of the available applications for it didn't work with my desktop environment, and the one thing I found was a patch file to patch Drapes to work with it- which didn't work at all. The "configurability" argument falls flat on it's face when you realize that it actually entails making your own distro half the time.
In other words, Linux's Desktop capabilities suck in terms of GUI tools, so it's better to use the same command shell that was used over 30 years ago. And people try to say Linux has progressed.
That's kind of a major misnomer, CPU cores are not the same as GPU cores.
It's like comparing a car to a field of skateboards.
Nowhere did I say this, not that I recall.
While the CPU may be doing serial processing, the GPU can do parrallel processing. Utilize that, and you can use the modern GPU in a way in which it never was really intended.
Sadly I should have said such. But yes, the CPU does not have actual physical dual threads or "pipelines". It just simply to say, or the way I comprehend it, takes turns processing 2 different threads at once, instead a entire thread and then the next in line in a line.
It is not in my knowledge really, so I really should not bother to comment on such. As my information is probably wrong anyway.
You didn't differentiate them at all, to me that seems like an implied statement.
CPU's are rarely doing serial processing anymore, they've been superscalar for a long time. It took awhile for GPU's to even become superscalar. They were only really parallel due to feeding groups of instructions to things like CUDA cores.
Though that's a bit of a misnomer too since the multiple logic units in a cpu core are about equal to groups of GPU cores, so they're not really that different. GPU's are just designed to repeat simple instructions in mass number as opposed to the complex fetch and decoding of CPU's.
Again, cars vs skateboards, skateboards have a lot of wheels to use that do very little while cars can turn and utilize their powerful engines rather than numbers. But of course the skateboards would probably be better at carrying a whale than one car would.
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These things are complex, it's not like back in the day when you could say "x is better than y", there is much, much, much more to it now, as is what happens with advances in technology.
If you have to ask how to install a Linux distribution, it's not for you.
I also dual boot with the latest linux mint packages, but I've run minecraft servers with CentOS and Ubuntu Server. If you want to play minecraft in a linux enviroment, you should already see speed increases with a Ubuntu install.