But these really speak to having a dedicated graphics card, I can't really find anything with recommendations for an integrated graphics card, just people/articles saying it's not ideal, but I know it can be done, because I play it on a LenovoThinkpad with an integrated graphics card and it does pretty good for about an hour or two then I'll have to shut the game down and restart it, and it works fine again.
The card in my Thinkpad just has the name Intel HD graphics family, so, doesn't give me much to go off of.
So, can someone give me an idea of what integrated graphics card minimum/recommended specs would be on a 2 in 1? Thank you!
Well, my desktop has integrated graphics, and it runs Minecraft just fine, even heavily modded versions.
I also have a 2-in-1 laptop with integrated graphics, that I know can run Minecraft decently (not greatly) but I've never tried it with mods on my laptop. Aside from the graphics card, the second best factor of performance is probably how much RAM is dedicated to Minecraft, so choose a laptop with at least 4 GB RAM.
If you want to know what my 2-in-1 is, I have an HP Pavilion, one of the older models, I got it from Walmart for 3 or 4 hundred. Like I said, it's able to run Minecraft fairly well, but I wouldn't recommend it if you want to PvP, because the latency will get you killed.
Actually, you can find mid-range cards like that in business laptops. Business and work laptops do tend to come with somewhat beefy GPUs to support a workload that would benefit off of that, such as video editing or rendering. I know because my old multimedia teacher had a business-oriented laptop with an 860M in it. It was minimalistic with brushed aluminium, and a small keyboard.
But these really speak to having a dedicated graphics card, I can't really find anything with recommendations for an integrated graphics card, just people/articles saying it's not ideal, but I know it can be done, because I play it on a LenovoThinkpad with an integrated graphics card and it does pretty good for about an hour or two then I'll have to shut the game down and restart it, and it works fine again.
The card in my Thinkpad just has the name Intel HD graphics family, so, doesn't give me much to go off of.
So, can someone give me an idea of what integrated graphics card minimum/recommended specs would be on a 2 in 1? Thank you!
So long as the CPU isn't a total deadweight, you can run the game on anything, no matter the GPU. A dedicated GPU will help with FPS, but it isn't necessary to play it smoothly. My laptop with an i5 4210U, a rather low to mid end mobile processor, with its Intel HD 4400 integrated GPU, can run the game just fine at about 80 FPS in a normal world. Compared to my 840M, which runs at about 200 FPS. There is a pretty big difference, but the HD 4400 is still beyond playable.
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Thanks for the information. Most of the laptops I have been looking at have had at least 8 GB of RAM, and I've learned how to attribute more of the memory to the game during play sessions. Also, this section about the CPU recommended levels:
CPU: Intel Core i3 or AMD Athlon II (K10) 2.8 GHz
Most of the laptops have been looking at have had the Intel Core i5 or above, not sure how much that helps.
PVP isn't an issue for me, I want to be able to just link up with my kids just at my home and play with them, we have several adventure maps that we've enjoyed playing individually, and we'd like to be able to play those together. That's the primary thing we're looking for.
The reason I would like a 2 in 1 is the work that I do I carry a tablet around to use several apps to calculate things out, check references, etc. Well, my tablet has just about run it's life expectancy, and I can get a 2 in 1 for just a couple hundred dollars more than a tablet, and then have it perform double duty for me. I can take it work to run the apps I need via something like blue stacks, and then when I get home in the evening, I can play minecraft on it with my kids.
Thank you for the link, I appreciate you going that extra mile for me!
So long as the CPU isn't a total deadweight, you can run the game on anything, no matter the GPU. A dedicated GPU will help with FPS, but it isn't necessary to play it smoothly. My laptop with an i5 4210U, a rather low to mid end mobile processor, with its Intel HD 4400 integrated GPU, can run the game just fine at about 80 FPS in a normal world. Compared to my 840M, which runs at about 200 FPS. There is a pretty big difference, but the HD 4400 is still beyond playable.
This is good to know about the CPU, I will keep that in mind, most that I have been looking at have been at I5 or above with at least 8GB RAM. I used to think that that is what mattered and felt pretty confident in looking, but then I started seeing people say that the GPU or having an integrated graphics card was more important, and, I'm not techy enough to be able to investigate that confidently, so, again, I appreciate your examples and help
This is good to know about the CPU, I will keep that in mind, most that I have been looking at have been at I5 or above with at least 8GB RAM. I used to think that that is what mattered and felt pretty confident in looking, but then I started seeing people say that the GPU or having an integrated graphics card was more important, and, I'm not techy enough to be able to investigate that confidently, so, again, I appreciate your examples and help
The GPU only becomes an important factor if the CPU isn't bottlenecking things. That's why there was a 130 FPS difference between my HD 4400 and my 840M, the i5 4210U was sufficiently quick enough to allow the GPU to flex a bit more. If I were running some low-end i3 or Pentium processor, on the other hand, I doubt the GPU would make that big of a difference.
The story does change with mods, though, which demonstrates my point even more. With 221 mods under 1.7.10, the 840M, and slightly lower settings than I'd usually run with (6 render distance instead of 8), my FPS hovers right around 50-60. The mods impose such an impact to the load on the CPU, that it makes the CPU a bottleneck, so the GPU doesn't matter at all.
With shaders, however, GPU plays a far more important role. At roughly 800x600, with my own shader (which can be considered a high end shader), 8 render distance, I'm getting anywhere between 20-40 FPS in a normal world. Compared to 180+ FPS without shaders, full screen, in the same world. Shaders impose a lot more work on the GPU, to the point where it becomes an even bigger bottleneck than what it normally would be.
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Alright, I've been trying to find information on line about this myself, but, just can't find a clear answer, so, can you please help.
I would like to be a 2 in 1 laptop that can handle Minecraft with a fair selection of mods. I'm aware of the system requirements:
https://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-minecraft-system-requirements
But these really speak to having a dedicated graphics card, I can't really find anything with recommendations for an integrated graphics card, just people/articles saying it's not ideal, but I know it can be done, because I play it on a LenovoThinkpad with an integrated graphics card and it does pretty good for about an hour or two then I'll have to shut the game down and restart it, and it works fine again.
The card in my Thinkpad just has the name Intel HD graphics family, so, doesn't give me much to go off of.
So, can someone give me an idea of what integrated graphics card minimum/recommended specs would be on a 2 in 1? Thank you!
Well, my desktop has integrated graphics, and it runs Minecraft just fine, even heavily modded versions.
I also have a 2-in-1 laptop with integrated graphics, that I know can run Minecraft decently (not greatly) but I've never tried it with mods on my laptop. Aside from the graphics card, the second best factor of performance is probably how much RAM is dedicated to Minecraft, so choose a laptop with at least 4 GB RAM.
If you want to know what my 2-in-1 is, I have an HP Pavilion, one of the older models, I got it from Walmart for 3 or 4 hundred. Like I said, it's able to run Minecraft fairly well, but I wouldn't recommend it if you want to PvP, because the latency will get you killed.
If you don't play games in full screen,few mods should run 60+fps @ sth like 720p i guess
MY MODPACK! ~300 MODS! 1.10.2-1.12.2, 1.15.2!
Why do you want a 2-in-1? I have a normal Dell with a GeForce GTX 960M and it runs wonderfully. It runs a normal world with max settings at 50-70 FPS.
My Processor (i7-6700HQ) has Intel HD Graphics 530, which does seem to run minecraft fairly well.
This should be able to run it not at max but playable.
I don't think latency has much to do with your computer. I think it'd be where you are in the world, what ISP you have, what router you have, etc.
Yours one is 'gaming laptop'
But he is using a Thinkpad
MY MODPACK! ~300 MODS! 1.10.2-1.12.2, 1.15.2!
Actually, you can find mid-range cards like that in business laptops. Business and work laptops do tend to come with somewhat beefy GPUs to support a workload that would benefit off of that, such as video editing or rendering. I know because my old multimedia teacher had a business-oriented laptop with an 860M in it. It was minimalistic with brushed aluminium, and a small keyboard.
So long as the CPU isn't a total deadweight, you can run the game on anything, no matter the GPU. A dedicated GPU will help with FPS, but it isn't necessary to play it smoothly. My laptop with an i5 4210U, a rather low to mid end mobile processor, with its Intel HD 4400 integrated GPU, can run the game just fine at about 80 FPS in a normal world. Compared to my 840M, which runs at about 200 FPS. There is a pretty big difference, but the HD 4400 is still beyond playable.
Author of the Clarity, Serenity, Sapphire & Halcyon shader packs for Minecraft: Java Edition.
My Github page.
The entire Minecraft shader development community now has its own Discord server! Feel free to join and chat with all the developers!
Thanks for the information. Most of the laptops I have been looking at have had at least 8 GB of RAM, and I've learned how to attribute more of the memory to the game during play sessions. Also, this section about the CPU recommended levels:
Most of the laptops have been looking at have had the Intel Core i5 or above, not sure how much that helps.
PVP isn't an issue for me, I want to be able to just link up with my kids just at my home and play with them, we have several adventure maps that we've enjoyed playing individually, and we'd like to be able to play those together. That's the primary thing we're looking for.
The reason I would like a 2 in 1 is the work that I do I carry a tablet around to use several apps to calculate things out, check references, etc. Well, my tablet has just about run it's life expectancy, and I can get a 2 in 1 for just a couple hundred dollars more than a tablet, and then have it perform double duty for me. I can take it work to run the apps I need via something like blue stacks, and then when I get home in the evening, I can play minecraft on it with my kids.
Thank you for the link, I appreciate you going that extra mile for me!
This is good to know about the CPU, I will keep that in mind, most that I have been looking at have been at I5 or above with at least 8GB RAM. I used to think that that is what mattered and felt pretty confident in looking, but then I started seeing people say that the GPU or having an integrated graphics card was more important, and, I'm not techy enough to be able to investigate that confidently, so, again, I appreciate your examples and help
seuman can I see something you're looking at, like something you're leaning towards?
i3, i5, and i7 don't always say how good they are like, there are some i5 processors and that better than some i7s.
Sure, I don't have access to them right now, but will upload something as soon as I do.
The GPU only becomes an important factor if the CPU isn't bottlenecking things. That's why there was a 130 FPS difference between my HD 4400 and my 840M, the i5 4210U was sufficiently quick enough to allow the GPU to flex a bit more. If I were running some low-end i3 or Pentium processor, on the other hand, I doubt the GPU would make that big of a difference.
The story does change with mods, though, which demonstrates my point even more. With 221 mods under 1.7.10, the 840M, and slightly lower settings than I'd usually run with (6 render distance instead of 8), my FPS hovers right around 50-60. The mods impose such an impact to the load on the CPU, that it makes the CPU a bottleneck, so the GPU doesn't matter at all.
With shaders, however, GPU plays a far more important role. At roughly 800x600, with my own shader (which can be considered a high end shader), 8 render distance, I'm getting anywhere between 20-40 FPS in a normal world. Compared to 180+ FPS without shaders, full screen, in the same world. Shaders impose a lot more work on the GPU, to the point where it becomes an even bigger bottleneck than what it normally would be.
Author of the Clarity, Serenity, Sapphire & Halcyon shader packs for Minecraft: Java Edition.
My Github page.
The entire Minecraft shader development community now has its own Discord server! Feel free to join and chat with all the developers!