.......... But wait, that also means you can't boot directly into another OS if you "shut down" via 8, you'd need to boot 8 back up, restart, then choose an OS.
If you have any other OS including another install of 8 once you select the other option it has to restart.
"It's different, therefore it's bad" is pretty much how I read this.
It was more of a rant.. They way I see it, people are not going to have a clue, everyone has gotten used to buttons you can SEE without moving your mouse somewhere or right clicking. There are going to be so many people that have no clue how to do anything.
I will finally befriend linux when Windows 7 support ends.
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They way I see it, people are not going to have a clue, everyone has gotten used to buttons you can SEE without moving your mouse somewhere or right clicking.
Uhh... what you describing there is Windows 3.1.
There are going to be so many people that have no clue how to do anything.
And this is different from now?
I will finally befriend linux when Windows 7 support ends.
At which point you will have to break from being used to "buttons you can SEE without moving your mouse somewhere or right clicking." and switch to having to sudo apt-get or run dpkg --configure and other terminal commands.
At which point you will have to break from being used to "buttons you can SEE without moving your mouse somewhere or right clicking." and switch to having to sudo apt-get or run dpkg --configure and other terminal commands.
And 95, 98, 2000, ME, xp, vista, and 7.
Yes, things have been nearly the same since windows really started, you have an X to close. You have a start menu, you can get to the control panel here. You can see things without doing something extra.
Its not... Tap is if your on a tablet, click on a pc. It even talks about a touchscreen PC on some things when your on a DESKTOP computer. I am terrified of the people that don't understand computers,someone calls: I'm tapping it and it wont do anything.
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Its not... Tap is if your on a tablet, click on a pc. It even talks about a touchscreen PC on some things when your on a DESKTOP computer. I am terrified of the people that don't understand computers,someone calls: I'm tapping it and it wont do anything.
Functionally, it is the exact same thing.
Tap on a phone/tablet = left click on a mouse
"menu" button (or tap+hold depending on the device) = right click on a mouse
Really the only things that need to be changed are the words themselves, change "tap" to "click" unless tablet PC functionality is enabled.
Most people (trust me I have worked with some of the worst) are surprisingly not that stupid, if something says "touch here" on a desktop or laptop, they will move the mouse and click it. Not touch the screen.
Yes, things have been nearly the same since windows really started, you have an X to close. You have a start menu, you can get to the control panel here. You can see things without doing something extra.
This I partially agree on. The back arrow button meaning minimize/"close" app is a bit stupid.
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What mistake Windows 8 is faster and more efficient in resource usage then 7.
Also worth noting Windows 8 is the last version of Windows that will come in a 32bit flavor.
That isn't the mistake, it's making a tablet OS for desktops.
And who knows, they said Windows 8 was going to be 64 bit only, then decided 32 bit for ARM only, then 32 bit for all. So they may continue to do that again and again.
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Apparently squares = tablet? I don't see what's so wrong with dragging the mouse to the sides and such either. There are already similar actions in Windows 7 such as dragging windows to resize them and dragging the mouse to the bottom right to show the destkop.
It says tap. While it has been said this is the same as click, its not, with a mouse you move to something, and click. Tablets you touch where you need it. There is a major difference between these two.
The current features of dragging stuff is made to be used with a mouse.
People forget that metro is windows phone... I mean look at it.
Win 8 even treats the desktop as a secondary (and severely limited) feature.
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It says tap. While it has been said this is the same as click, its not, with a mouse you move to something, and click. Tablets you touch where you need it. There is a major difference between these two.
The current features of dragging stuff is made to be used with a mouse.
People forget that metro is windows phone... I mean look at it.
Win 8 even treats the desktop as a secondary (and severely limited) feature.
I don't see how this is a major difference really. On a tablet, you move your hand and touch where you want to 'click', on a PC you move your mouse and click where you.. want to click. Obviously.
However, on a tablet you can only tap. You cannot 'right-tap' or something like that. If Windows 8 was a tablet OS, it wouldn't support right-clicking. Maybe it would emulate right clicking (tap and hold, or something like that) but it won't support right clicking. The fact that Windows 8 still has plenty of context menus (the menus that pop up when you right click on something) pretty much means it isn't a tablet OS, or at the very least it means that it's built with PC usage in mind. It may support tablets, but that's an entirely different thing - Windows 7, for example, also natively supports touch input, and because of that it should be able to run on a tablet (or any other tablet-like touch device).
I think you're looking at it the wrong way. Windows Phone was the first to make use of the Metro design, something that was still being worked on (or not yet invented) when Windows 7 was released. Sure, Windows 8 makes use of the same UI Design as Windows Phone 7, but that doesn't immediately mean it is Windows Phone.
About the last part, I am not sure how that myth ever spread. Misinformation, I assume. The desktop is not a secondary feature, nor is it severely limited - in fact the Windows 8 desktop is nearly the same as the Windows 7 desktop, save for the fact that the start button is hidden (it is not gone, just invisible). I don't know why people thought the desktop is something secondary; maybe because after logging in, the first thing you see is the Start Menu. But that actually makes sense, since if you log on to your user account, you're usually doing so because you want to start a certain program. But as soon as you start any program that isn't marked as 'app' (A.K.A. 98% of all programs on your computer) the start menu will disappear, revealing the desktop, and the program you wanted to launch opens a window. All in all - not that much of a difference.
Since time of stalking and still not trying Windows 8. All the talk of the touch/tap or to say "Tablet" features Windows 8 offers has got me wondering if maybe now I can fully utilize the touch features of my Intous 5 Medium Touch. Normally I keep it disabled because it spazes out in Windows 7 even when not doing any gesters. Also this can be even without the Intuos Driver.
I dont kill on Microsoft for the extended "tablet" support, since as I said above fits right in. I really need to get Windows 8 now. Next on the download queue.
I was messing around the settings of Windows 8 recently and I think I may have discovered a bug. When changing the time in the BIOS, do not set it to a future date. For some reason Windows 8 refuses to match the BIOS time when you set it back, only when you set it forward.
Example:
Real-World Time: 8/30/2012 7:00 AM
BIOS Time: Matches RWT
Windows 8 Time: Matches RWT
When the BIOS time is set to before the RWT or a preset future time it will not revert.
Real-World Time: 8/30/2012 7:00 AM
BIOS Time: 8/30/2012 6:00 AM
Windows 8 Time: Matches RWT
For some reason it will only match the correct time if you sync it to the microsoft website. Quite odd, this wasn't the same in Windows 7. If anyone does find a fix please pm me.
That isn't the mistake, it's making a tablet OS for desktops.
And who knows, they said Windows 8 was going to be 64 bit only, then decided 32 bit for ARM only, then 32 bit for all. So they may continue to do that again and again.
Its not a tablet Os I think this has been coverd
Microsoft never said this that was the rumor but then MS debunked them.
And who knows, they said Windows 8 was going to be 64 bit only, then decided 32 bit for ARM only, then 32 bit for all. So they may continue to do that again and again.
AFAIK they never said that, they always said it would come as x86, x64 and ARM, and that it will definitely be the last x86 OS they release.
They've said the thing about it being the last 32 bit OS since 7 was in development. It's been a long time coming. There is no reason to run a 32 bit OS if your CPU supports x64 programs.
If you have any other OS including another install of 8 once you select the other option it has to restart.
It was more of a rant.. They way I see it, people are not going to have a clue, everyone has gotten used to buttons you can SEE without moving your mouse somewhere or right clicking. There are going to be so many people that have no clue how to do anything.
I will finally befriend linux when Windows 7 support ends.
But I suppose it is necessary for the UEFI features that they implemented.
Thanks for sharing this. I like hybernate now, although it was a pain to find and reset the power button to hybernate.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/SteevyT/saved/21PI
So if you dislike that feature its optional.
Uhh... what you describing there is Windows 3.1.
And this is different from now?
At which point you will have to break from being used to "buttons you can SEE without moving your mouse somewhere or right clicking." and switch to having to sudo apt-get or run dpkg --configure and other terminal commands.
And 95, 98, 2000, ME, xp, vista, and 7.
Yes, things have been nearly the same since windows really started, you have an X to close. You have a start menu, you can get to the control panel here. You can see things without doing something extra.
Its not... Tap is if your on a tablet, click on a pc. It even talks about a touchscreen PC on some things when your on a DESKTOP computer. I am terrified of the people that don't understand computers,someone calls: I'm tapping it and it wont do anything.
Tap on a phone/tablet = left click on a mouse
"menu" button (or tap+hold depending on the device) = right click on a mouse
Really the only things that need to be changed are the words themselves, change "tap" to "click" unless tablet PC functionality is enabled.
Most people (trust me I have worked with some of the worst) are surprisingly not that stupid, if something says "touch here" on a desktop or laptop, they will move the mouse and click it. Not touch the screen.
This I partially agree on. The back arrow button meaning minimize/"close" app is a bit stupid.
It may only get worse from 8, but I know I am staying with 7 until support ends, or they see their mistake and 9 is different.
What mistake Windows 8 is faster and more efficient in resource usage then 7.
Also worth noting Windows 8 is the last version of Windows that will come in a 32bit flavor.
That isn't the mistake, it's making a tablet OS for desktops.
And who knows, they said Windows 8 was going to be 64 bit only, then decided 32 bit for ARM only, then 32 bit for all. So they may continue to do that again and again.
What makes you think it's a tablet OS?
Apparently squares = tablet? I don't see what's so wrong with dragging the mouse to the sides and such either. There are already similar actions in Windows 7 such as dragging windows to resize them and dragging the mouse to the bottom right to show the destkop.
The current features of dragging stuff is made to be used with a mouse.
People forget that metro is windows phone... I mean look at it.
Win 8 even treats the desktop as a secondary (and severely limited) feature.
However, on a tablet you can only tap. You cannot 'right-tap' or something like that. If Windows 8 was a tablet OS, it wouldn't support right-clicking. Maybe it would emulate right clicking (tap and hold, or something like that) but it won't support right clicking. The fact that Windows 8 still has plenty of context menus (the menus that pop up when you right click on something) pretty much means it isn't a tablet OS, or at the very least it means that it's built with PC usage in mind. It may support tablets, but that's an entirely different thing - Windows 7, for example, also natively supports touch input, and because of that it should be able to run on a tablet (or any other tablet-like touch device).
I think you're looking at it the wrong way. Windows Phone was the first to make use of the Metro design, something that was still being worked on (or not yet invented) when Windows 7 was released. Sure, Windows 8 makes use of the same UI Design as Windows Phone 7, but that doesn't immediately mean it is Windows Phone.
About the last part, I am not sure how that myth ever spread. Misinformation, I assume. The desktop is not a secondary feature, nor is it severely limited - in fact the Windows 8 desktop is nearly the same as the Windows 7 desktop, save for the fact that the start button is hidden (it is not gone, just invisible). I don't know why people thought the desktop is something secondary; maybe because after logging in, the first thing you see is the Start Menu. But that actually makes sense, since if you log on to your user account, you're usually doing so because you want to start a certain program. But as soon as you start any program that isn't marked as 'app' (A.K.A. 98% of all programs on your computer) the start menu will disappear, revealing the desktop, and the program you wanted to launch opens a window. All in all - not that much of a difference.
I dont kill on Microsoft for the extended "tablet" support, since as I said above fits right in. I really need to get Windows 8 now. Next on the download queue.
Example:
Real-World Time: 8/30/2012 7:00 AM
BIOS Time: Matches RWT
Windows 8 Time: Matches RWT
When the BIOS time is set to before the RWT or a preset future time it will not revert.
Real-World Time: 8/30/2012 7:00 AM
BIOS Time: 8/30/2012 6:00 AM
Windows 8 Time: Matches RWT
For some reason it will only match the correct time if you sync it to the microsoft website. Quite odd, this wasn't the same in Windows 7. If anyone does find a fix please pm me.
Thanks
Its not a tablet Os I think this has been coverd
Microsoft never said this that was the rumor but then MS debunked them.
They've said the thing about it being the last 32 bit OS since 7 was in development. It's been a long time coming. There is no reason to run a 32 bit OS if your CPU supports x64 programs.