Windows 8 Boots faster than Win7. This is both because of the switch to EUFI, But also because of a sort of "partial Hibernation" That Windows 8 uses. When you shut down Win7 or earlier, naturally, the slate is wiped clean. When you shut down windows 8, the Contents of Ring 0 Privileged Memory is 'hibernated'. Basically- All Applications are closed and Windows is left at pretty much just the core, than that Core is hibernated. This results in a very small disk footprint for that hibernation data which allows you to shut down and startup faster; when you startup it simply resumes that saved hibernation state; if the OS was changed due to an Update, it simply defaults to a absolute cold boot state. The hibernation data doesn't actually have any User Data, so it can be discarded without worry.
Windows 8 also has some low-level changes to improve security, by hardening against Buffer Overflows and data-execution hacks as well as forcing Virtual Memory non-determinism as well as Fast Fail Security checks.
Just out of curiosity, is there a way to force a clean boot? I assume there probably is.
Would suck to have a crash that is caused by corrupted ring0 memory, although I doubt that is going to happen. They must have thought of that and placed some kind of mechanism to do a clean boot if a ring0 crash occurs (if ever).
From what I played around with 8 and 8.1 you can't force it, no.
You can force it with cmd every time you want to shut down, but that would get tedious and is a bit of a waste of the fast boot.
From what I played around with 8 and 8.1 you can't force it, no.
You can force it with cmd every time you want to shut down, but that would get tedious and is a bit of a waste of the fast boot.
well, for people who dont care about boot speed, but dont want to type in the cmd everytime, they could just make a batch file on there desktop or something that will automaticly do so for them
Windows 8 Boots faster than Win7. This is both because of the switch to EUFI, But also because of a sort of "partial Hibernation" That Windows 8 uses. When you shut down Win7 or earlier, naturally, the slate is wiped clean. When you shut down windows 8, the Contents of Ring 0 Privileged Memory is 'hibernated'. Basically- All Applications are closed and Windows is left at pretty much just the core, than that Core is hibernated. This results in a very small disk footprint for that hibernation data which allows you to shut down and startup faster; when you startup it simply resumes that saved hibernation state; if the OS was changed due to an Update, it simply defaults to a absolute cold boot state. The hibernation data doesn't actually have any User Data, so it can be discarded without worry.
Windows 8 also has some low-level changes to improve security, by hardening against Buffer Overflows and data-execution hacks as well as forcing Virtual Memory non-determinism as well as Fast Fail Security checks.
Is there anyway to shut it down.
It is an old fact that not having a clean slate after a while is bad. Also restarting helped me fix a lot of problems. Is that possiable?
On my CrapBook having 60mb on a 2gb of RAM not used is a big plus.
No it isn't. That is not how resources are managed.
Is there anyway to shut it down.
It is an old fact that not having a clean slate after a while is bad. Also restarting helped me fix a lot of problems. Is that possiable?
Restart is a shutdown. Shutdown is a pseudo-hibernate.
Hey, I just got the opportunity to upgrade to Windows 8 for free (through my father's university) and I just wanted to know, what parts of my system will be lost through the upgrade? I know my documents and files will be kept, but I want to know if the programs will have to be reinstalled and if so, if there is any way to keep them.
well, ive never actually just upgraded something, however, id imagine it would keep programs, if not, you could just copy them all to a flash drive or external hdd or something such as that
yes it can, ANYTHING, can freeze/crash on ANY, OS, (its also happened to me on luinx actually, just today, was updating it, then it froze/crashed, corrupted the os, had to re-install, luckily its just a VM though)
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Windows 8 Boots faster than Win7. This is both because of the switch to EUFI, But also because of a sort of "partial Hibernation" That Windows 8 uses. When you shut down Win7 or earlier, naturally, the slate is wiped clean. When you shut down windows 8, the Contents of Ring 0 Privileged Memory is 'hibernated'. Basically- All Applications are closed and Windows is left at pretty much just the core, than that Core is hibernated. This results in a very small disk footprint for that hibernation data which allows you to shut down and startup faster; when you startup it simply resumes that saved hibernation state; if the OS was changed due to an Update, it simply defaults to a absolute cold boot state. The hibernation data doesn't actually have any User Data, so it can be discarded without worry.
Windows 8 also has some low-level changes to improve security, by hardening against Buffer Overflows and data-execution hacks as well as forcing Virtual Memory non-determinism as well as Fast Fail Security checks.
You can force it with cmd every time you want to shut down, but that would get tedious and is a bit of a waste of the fast boot.
Technically, you're proving my point.
"Programmers never repeat themselves. They loop."
well, for people who dont care about boot speed, but dont want to type in the cmd everytime, they could just make a batch file on there desktop or something that will automaticly do so for them
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I like to boot straight to desktop and overlaying the metro screen over the desktop background.
The search systems seems to have become more annoying though. It seems to have what I want as the first option less than before.
http://www.reddit.co...your_harddrive/
Then again, so does Ubuntu.
So much for that whole 'privacy' thing, eh distro devs?
*sigh
I noticed it was doing a web search along with hard drive search.
I should probably find a way to disable that.
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On my CrapBook having 60mb on a 2gb of RAM not used is a big plus.
Is there anyway to shut it down.
It is an old fact that not having a clean slate after a while is bad. Also restarting helped me fix a lot of problems. Is that possiable?
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Restart is a shutdown. Shutdown is a pseudo-hibernate.
That "old fact" is complete bollocks, by the way.
Then what if I wanted a true shutdown?
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0.0 didn't think of that.
Would that work though or will it still keep memory while unplugged?
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I wouldn't recommend this.
And of course it wouldn't keep the memory while unplugged.
I would like to see this work
It is much faster then true shutdown.
EDIT: Oh hell yeah, Posted this on Windows 8's release date a year later
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well, ive never actually just upgraded something, however, id imagine it would keep programs, if not, you could just copy them all to a flash drive or external hdd or something such as that
my website- http://pcbuilds.site...orums/index.php -Looking for Admin's, pm for more info
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/buy
(if your on windows 8, and click buy now, it should open up the windows store for your free update)
my website- http://pcbuilds.site...orums/index.php -Looking for Admin's, pm for more info
That would never happen on Linux
yes it can, ANYTHING, can freeze/crash on ANY, OS, (its also happened to me on luinx actually, just today, was updating it, then it froze/crashed, corrupted the os, had to re-install, luckily its just a VM though)
my website- http://pcbuilds.site...orums/index.php -Looking for Admin's, pm for more info
Can't tell if sarcastic or truly clueless.
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