The primary focus shall be software development. There are a few ideas on the table, however conferencing for these ideas will be held once a team is assembled.
Lots of words, no actual message.
I'm going to start a construction company. "the primary focus shall be building"...
And I'm sure that if you were going to start a construction company, you'd actually know how to build something, correct?
Not necessarily. Regardless of the industry, there are plenty of startups that never get off the ground; in fact, most starting companies- about 90%; fail quite quickly because of numerous factors.
of course, this is also true for software companies; usually, the person in charge has some idiotic,ill-defined idea "We're going to make a facebook, but for baby pictures" or "Like youtube, but better" (that latter one was a friend that wanted me to make a website for him. That was his sole instruction. "Make it like youtube, but better".
We're not friends anymore.
Shame that doesn't hold true for all these 'programming companies' we see on these forums...
If you ask me, they don't even fall into the failed startups; they fall in the category of startups that only exist in their minds. Very few (i'd say none, to be honest) companies actually arise out of a random group of people on-line.
With very few exceptions, the vast majority of startups consist of people that know each other personally (and not just on-line) and more often than not they are co-workers at another job in that industry. Very few startups appear out of a teenagers garage; and truthfully the only time that was even viable was in the mid to late 90's when technology was changing so fast there was always something unique you could grab onto and explore. More importantly, the kids/people who created those startups were geniuses in their field.
Arguably, such genius still exists statistically at the same ratio today, but if a person was a genius they wouldn't be trying to recruit people via a game forum. The fact that the person has to do so suggests that they no nobody off-line that would be relevant.
No software company was built on the genius of a single person, even if we assume (in this case) that the person is a genius; Typically, they are started by groups whose area's of genius lie in other areas that complement one another. Wozniak's penchant for hardware, circuitry, and optimization went hand in hand with Job's marketing savvy, for example. Even so, however, both of them worked in the industry for quite some time before they decided to startup a company.
The biggest killer of a startup idea is having one. If your primary purpose is "I want to start a company" than you've already lost. your main goal should be something else; that goal becomes the goal of the company, and starting the company is only a means to that goal. It could be something as simple as "Our goal is to bring classic retro gaming concept into a modern game setting" or something like that.
My "company" (BASeCamp) (again, it doesn't exist except in my mind, and as a label for my stuff) doesn't exist to make me money. Which works well since it hasn't. My goal is to try to make the best software I can for various purposes; I've been at it for 7 years, to explore strange concepts and new programming paradigms, to go where no programmer has gone before. Making money is not my goal. Making money is not a goal. It can't be; if making money is the only goal, you've already failed! Even mentioning money this early on is assinine.
If you aren't already working in the industry, and don't already have years of experience in that industry- even working as a cog in a existing company- than any startup is doomed to failure. And with a "focus" like "software development" and no direction, I don't see how anybody can expect anything but a dismal failure. I'm not saying this as "a viewpoint"- it's the truth, and it's echoed by hundreds of other people who started their own companies, or failed to start their own companies, or failed to start a company and then tried again and succeeded.
Tell me more. If you could make it really, and I mean really good, then you might succeed. As for being manager, would you manage finance, servers, workers?
In the past, I primarily managed finance, servers, worker priorities, external sponsorship, advertising, and just about everything circulating around our organization. We were very efficient, but as I said, we shut down do to a mentally ill team member.
Software is not going to be the only thing that is planned though, no. This is my dream. A successful future company, custom computers, custom hardware, advanced software and possibly even an OS. I plan to dedicate my life to this. It is important. It is not about money to me.
Okay, my initial plans for development, are website design. It is a good field to set down a base income. Any money earned can be reinvested into the organization. I would like to target the audience of more upstart people, with not a lot of knowledge concerning website design. It can be a tough task, but I feel it is a good foundation to begin upon.
Fail thread is fail.
Experienced and skilled coders (such as myself) won't even bother with this.
We like goals, we like to know what we're going to be writing, not just joining up and then sitting around with a hand on our dicks going, "Soo, what now?".
The only attention you're going to attract is Java noobs that think they're awesome, but couldn't write a HelloWorld class without a tutorial.
I'm managing a bicycle shop. It's main area of focus will be selling bicycles.
Who's with me?
Your goal is clear, you must enhance the virtual e-markets with your product, and monetize sexy metrics; additionally, by delivering the proper wireless channels to seize collaborative action-items, you'll be able to optimize vertical methodologies to extend virtual content, in such a way as to engage distributed relationships and leverage user-centric markets.
WARNING: the following uses the OP's methodology of using a lot of words but not actually saying anything. It has been known to cause brain damage. I barely escaped alive after writing it, myself.
Have you ever been unable to expedite your end-to-end feature set? Instantly? We apply the proverb "Don't cry over spilt milk" not only to our models but our aptitude to empower. We understand that it is better to incentivize perfectly than to transform extensibly. We often iterate 60/60/24/7/365 niches. That is a remarkable achievement taking into account this fiscal year's market conditions! Think cross-media. The metrics for social networks are more well-understood if they are not B2C, infinitely reconfigurable. We invariably disintermediate co-branded niches. That is a terrific achievement taking into account this fiduciary term's financial state of things! What does the commonly-used term "reality-based, dot-com" really mean? We will regenerate our capability to streamline without depreciating our power to synergize. We will extend our ability to strategize without reducing our ability to deploy. If all of this comes off as puzzling to you, that's because it is! If all of this sounds wonderful to you, that's because it is!
We here at Manager's warehouse realize that it is better to deliver virtually than to harness seamlessly. The capability to innovate super-super-dynamically leads to the ability to expedite iteravely. If you unleash proactively, you may have to brand magnetically. Imagine a combination of Java and RDF. We will utilize the aptitude of functionalities to harness. Your budget for synthesizing should be at least one-half of your budget for synergizing. Is it more important for something to be bleeding-edge or to be 60/60/24/7/365? We will leverage the ability of relationships to aggregate. We will recontextualize the term "mission-critical". What do we e-enable? Anything and everything, regardless of anonymity! Think micro-cross-media. Without compliance, you will lack infomediaries.
At Manager's Warehouse, we understand how to benchmark seamlessly. Without super-resource-constrained bandwidth, you will lack web-readiness. It may seem discombobulating, but it's realistic! Do you have a scheme to become infinitely reconfigurable? What do we deliver? Anything and everything, regardless of anonymity! Our feature set is unparalleled, but our back-end ultra-sexy convergence and simple operation is usually considered a remarkable achievement. Think customized. Think client-focused. Think innovative. But don't think all three at the same time. Your budget for incentivizing should be at least one-tenth of your budget for meshing. A company that can deliver defiantly will (someday) be able to expedite easily. We pride ourselves not only on our feature set, but our easy administration and simple use. What does the industry jargon "metrics" really mean? What does it really mean to maximize "perfectly"? We realize that if you target transparently then you may also reintermediate intuitively.
We here at Manager's Warehouse have proven we know that it is better to scale intuitively than to monetize extensibly. We constantly productize world-class Total Quality Management. That is a remarkable achievement taking into account this quarter's market! Your budget for expediting should be at least one-third of your budget for visualizing. We will streamline the commonly-accepted commonly-accepted commonly-accepted term "out-of-the-box". The bloatware factor is real-time. Think super-visionary. Think super-nano-cyber-social-network-based. What do we envisioneer? Anything and everything, regardless of standing! We think that most affiliate-based splash pages use far too much J2EE, and not enough ASP. Quick: do you have a B2B2C strategy for coping with emerging e-businesses? A company that can disintermediate faithfully will (at some unknown point of time) be able to innovate defiantly. The Total Quality Control supervising management factor is 24/7/365.
We here at Manager's Warehouse believe we know that it is better to maximize vertically than to grow virtually. Our functionality is unparalleled in the industry, but our end-to-end, customer-directed CAE and easy operation is frequently considered a terrific achievement. Without adequate relationships, methodologies are forced to become frictionless. Without obfuscation, you will lack re-purposing. We will benchmark the buzzword "wireless". We will expedite the term "60/24/7/365". We think that most real-world web-based applications use far too much Rails, and not enough FOAF. Our technology takes the best aspects of Ruby on Rails and Python. We will scale up our aptitude to integrate without diminishing our power to incubate. Without well-chosen interfaces, aggregation are forced to become short-term. We think that most granular splash pages use far too much XHTML, and not enough WAP.
A whole team of 100 broken up by one member... I'm a bit sceptical of that. On another note, you seem to be talking as though you're a politician. Lay it out straight, don't be so vague.
We can all see that you don't have any idea what you're talking about.
Can we close this?
The coding team, was broken up by one member, yes. The rest were creators of circuits within Minecraft. We used it to gain small bits of income for projects, using adfly.
We had people for textures, circuity, and a small coding team that sadly, never really took off.
Listen, I don't care if you do not think I am going to fail, or that this wont work. But that doesn't mean I am going to give up on this dream I have nursed for over two years.
I will do everything in my power to succeed.
One of the biggest flaws in our last incarnation was children. Pathetic, idiotic, children. They could not hold themselves together, they thought of it as a game.
I don't have much, but I do know what I am getting into, and know I can do it. I have done such things before at a greater scale. This is an attempt to start smaller, smaller goals.
I don't care what people say. That I will fail, that I am worthless, that I am pathetic. This is what I want. This is what I have worked towards for two years.
I have two people interested already. a 2D artist, and a basic Java coder.
How about those of you who are coders and just being *****'s actually take the hour out of your "busy" schedule's to see what he's got? You can't see if that sticker price on the window of a car is correct from 40 feet away and looking through translucent glass. So go step through the god dam door.
All I see here is people that want to troll. Mr. Wolffe I recommend you pick a small starting project in either java (for minecraft) or C++ for actual usage in minor software so you can get off the ground...
Everything from both of those links, was overseen by me. Everything.
I stayed up all night for days at a time. I worked on it while I was starving and living with my dad, as he neglected me.
This is what I am doing.
If you tell me I will fail, I will keep going in hopes to prove you wrong.
Really? You posted a link to a thread that shows off no works, only a wall of text, and a link to planetminecraft and redstone builds to try to prove a point in your management and coding skills? You are just like a politician, many words but nothing gets done. And honestly, although redstone is ''advanced'' it is nowhere near as advanced as coding, nor does it relate to coding.
''My dad neglected me and I was starving''. Bullcrap, you are just trying to get our sympathy (and I don't see how making up a story can get some coders for you)
Yeah a few threads on the minecraft forum don't exactly inspire confidence in ones management abilities.
The best way to do that would be, I dunno, show that you've actually managed something that actually ****ing matters.
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How about those of you who are coders
THERE IS NO ****ING SUCH THING AS A "CODER". Anybody who calls a programmer or software developer a "coder" is a ****ing dumbass. programming and software development entails a ****ton more than just "writing code".
and just being *****'s actually take the hour out of your "busy" schedule's to see what he's got?
1. Why would we do that? So far his "trump card" was a few other Minecraftforum threads and some nonsense about being neglected or some ****. "My father neglected me! let me be your manager!" doesn't really work for me, to be honest. Also don't use possessives as plurals. that's just stupid.
You can't see if that sticker price on the window of a car is correct from 40 feet away and looking through translucent glass. So go step through the god dam door.
Except the proper analogy in this case would be Mr.Wolffe saying "WOW! Look at the price on that car!" and everybody else is pointing out that there is no ****ing car. You don't need to be up close to see that.
All I see here is people that want to troll.
All I see are people sick and tired of self-important assholes thinking they have some sort of ability to manage others, particularly when their "credentials" amount to going hungry and being up all night (doing what?) and a few ****ing forum threads. At least I have a ****ing website filled with **** I did I could point to. I don't have to point to some random discussion threads as if they are some sort of credential.
Mr. Wolffe I recommend you pick a small starting project in either java (for minecraft) or C++ for actual usage in minor software so you can get off the ground...
java isn't for minecraft... and C++ in no way is more conducive to "actual usage" (whatever that means). Additionally, I'm not sure what the hell "minor software" means, myself.
Lots of words, no actual message.
I'm going to start a construction company. "the primary focus shall be building"...
And I'm sure that if you were going to start a construction company, you'd actually know how to build something, correct?
Shame that doesn't hold true for all these 'programming companies' we see on these forums...
Not necessarily. Regardless of the industry, there are plenty of startups that never get off the ground; in fact, most starting companies- about 90%; fail quite quickly because of numerous factors.
of course, this is also true for software companies; usually, the person in charge has some idiotic,ill-defined idea "We're going to make a facebook, but for baby pictures" or "Like youtube, but better" (that latter one was a friend that wanted me to make a website for him. That was his sole instruction. "Make it like youtube, but better".
We're not friends anymore.
If you ask me, they don't even fall into the failed startups; they fall in the category of startups that only exist in their minds. Very few (i'd say none, to be honest) companies actually arise out of a random group of people on-line.
With very few exceptions, the vast majority of startups consist of people that know each other personally (and not just on-line) and more often than not they are co-workers at another job in that industry. Very few startups appear out of a teenagers garage; and truthfully the only time that was even viable was in the mid to late 90's when technology was changing so fast there was always something unique you could grab onto and explore. More importantly, the kids/people who created those startups were geniuses in their field.
Arguably, such genius still exists statistically at the same ratio today, but if a person was a genius they wouldn't be trying to recruit people via a game forum. The fact that the person has to do so suggests that they no nobody off-line that would be relevant.
No software company was built on the genius of a single person, even if we assume (in this case) that the person is a genius; Typically, they are started by groups whose area's of genius lie in other areas that complement one another. Wozniak's penchant for hardware, circuitry, and optimization went hand in hand with Job's marketing savvy, for example. Even so, however, both of them worked in the industry for quite some time before they decided to startup a company.
The biggest killer of a startup idea is having one. If your primary purpose is "I want to start a company" than you've already lost. your main goal should be something else; that goal becomes the goal of the company, and starting the company is only a means to that goal. It could be something as simple as "Our goal is to bring classic retro gaming concept into a modern game setting" or something like that.
My "company" (BASeCamp) (again, it doesn't exist except in my mind, and as a label for my stuff) doesn't exist to make me money. Which works well since it hasn't. My goal is to try to make the best software I can for various purposes; I've been at it for 7 years, to explore strange concepts and new programming paradigms, to go where no programmer has gone before. Making money is not my goal. Making money is not a goal. It can't be; if making money is the only goal, you've already failed! Even mentioning money this early on is assinine.
If you aren't already working in the industry, and don't already have years of experience in that industry- even working as a cog in a existing company- than any startup is doomed to failure. And with a "focus" like "software development" and no direction, I don't see how anybody can expect anything but a dismal failure. I'm not saying this as "a viewpoint"- it's the truth, and it's echoed by hundreds of other people who started their own companies, or failed to start their own companies, or failed to start a company and then tried again and succeeded.
In the past, I primarily managed finance, servers, worker priorities, external sponsorship, advertising, and just about everything circulating around our organization. We were very efficient, but as I said, we shut down do to a mentally ill team member.
Software is not going to be the only thing that is planned though, no. This is my dream. A successful future company, custom computers, custom hardware, advanced software and possibly even an OS. I plan to dedicate my life to this. It is important. It is not about money to me.
Okay, my initial plans for development, are website design. It is a good field to set down a base income. Any money earned can be reinvested into the organization. I would like to target the audience of more upstart people, with not a lot of knowledge concerning website design. It can be a tough task, but I feel it is a good foundation to begin upon.
Obvious newfag is obvious?
Mate, he does know how to program. Orite mite?
I will gladly retract my statement and even support his cause if I see conclusive, definitive and thorough proof of concept.
Good thing knowing how to program doesn't mean anything about leadership or you might almost have half a point.
While we're at it, if he's so skilled at programming where is the proof of concept? Where is the direction?
Your goal is clear, you must enhance the virtual e-markets with your product, and monetize sexy metrics; additionally, by delivering the proper wireless channels to seize collaborative action-items, you'll be able to optimize vertical methodologies to extend virtual content, in such a way as to engage distributed relationships and leverage user-centric markets.
WARNING: the following uses the OP's methodology of using a lot of words but not actually saying anything. It has been known to cause brain damage. I barely escaped alive after writing it, myself.
Have you ever been unable to expedite your end-to-end feature set? Instantly? We apply the proverb "Don't cry over spilt milk" not only to our models but our aptitude to empower. We understand that it is better to incentivize perfectly than to transform extensibly. We often iterate 60/60/24/7/365 niches. That is a remarkable achievement taking into account this fiscal year's market conditions! Think cross-media. The metrics for social networks are more well-understood if they are not B2C, infinitely reconfigurable. We invariably disintermediate co-branded niches. That is a terrific achievement taking into account this fiduciary term's financial state of things! What does the commonly-used term "reality-based, dot-com" really mean? We will regenerate our capability to streamline without depreciating our power to synergize. We will extend our ability to strategize without reducing our ability to deploy. If all of this comes off as puzzling to you, that's because it is! If all of this sounds wonderful to you, that's because it is!
We here at Manager's warehouse realize that it is better to deliver virtually than to harness seamlessly. The capability to innovate super-super-dynamically leads to the ability to expedite iteravely. If you unleash proactively, you may have to brand magnetically. Imagine a combination of Java and RDF. We will utilize the aptitude of functionalities to harness. Your budget for synthesizing should be at least one-half of your budget for synergizing. Is it more important for something to be bleeding-edge or to be 60/60/24/7/365? We will leverage the ability of relationships to aggregate. We will recontextualize the term "mission-critical". What do we e-enable? Anything and everything, regardless of anonymity! Think micro-cross-media. Without compliance, you will lack infomediaries.
At Manager's Warehouse, we understand how to benchmark seamlessly. Without super-resource-constrained bandwidth, you will lack web-readiness. It may seem discombobulating, but it's realistic! Do you have a scheme to become infinitely reconfigurable? What do we deliver? Anything and everything, regardless of anonymity! Our feature set is unparalleled, but our back-end ultra-sexy convergence and simple operation is usually considered a remarkable achievement. Think customized. Think client-focused. Think innovative. But don't think all three at the same time. Your budget for incentivizing should be at least one-tenth of your budget for meshing. A company that can deliver defiantly will (someday) be able to expedite easily. We pride ourselves not only on our feature set, but our easy administration and simple use. What does the industry jargon "metrics" really mean? What does it really mean to maximize "perfectly"? We realize that if you target transparently then you may also reintermediate intuitively.
We here at Manager's Warehouse have proven we know that it is better to scale intuitively than to monetize extensibly. We constantly productize world-class Total Quality Management. That is a remarkable achievement taking into account this quarter's market! Your budget for expediting should be at least one-third of your budget for visualizing. We will streamline the commonly-accepted commonly-accepted commonly-accepted term "out-of-the-box". The bloatware factor is real-time. Think super-visionary. Think super-nano-cyber-social-network-based. What do we envisioneer? Anything and everything, regardless of standing! We think that most affiliate-based splash pages use far too much J2EE, and not enough ASP. Quick: do you have a B2B2C strategy for coping with emerging e-businesses? A company that can disintermediate faithfully will (at some unknown point of time) be able to innovate defiantly. The Total Quality Control supervising management factor is 24/7/365.
We here at Manager's Warehouse believe we know that it is better to maximize vertically than to grow virtually. Our functionality is unparalleled in the industry, but our end-to-end, customer-directed CAE and easy operation is frequently considered a terrific achievement. Without adequate relationships, methodologies are forced to become frictionless. Without obfuscation, you will lack re-purposing. We will benchmark the buzzword "wireless". We will expedite the term "60/24/7/365". We think that most real-world web-based applications use far too much Rails, and not enough FOAF. Our technology takes the best aspects of Ruby on Rails and Python. We will scale up our aptitude to integrate without diminishing our power to incubate. Without well-chosen interfaces, aggregation are forced to become short-term. We think that most granular splash pages use far too much XHTML, and not enough WAP.
The coding team, was broken up by one member, yes. The rest were creators of circuits within Minecraft. We used it to gain small bits of income for projects, using adfly.
These were some of our projects:
http://www.planetminecraft.com/member/utd_projects/
We had people for textures, circuity, and a small coding team that sadly, never really took off.
Listen, I don't care if you do not think I am going to fail, or that this wont work. But that doesn't mean I am going to give up on this dream I have nursed for over two years.
I will do everything in my power to succeed.
One of the biggest flaws in our last incarnation was children. Pathetic, idiotic, children. They could not hold themselves together, they thought of it as a game.
It is not a game.
I don't have much, but I do know what I am getting into, and know I can do it. I have done such things before at a greater scale. This is an attempt to start smaller, smaller goals.
I don't care what people say. That I will fail, that I am worthless, that I am pathetic. This is what I want. This is what I have worked towards for two years.
I have two people interested already. a 2D artist, and a basic Java coder.
http://www.planetminecraft.com/member/utd_projects/
Everything from both of those links, was overseen by me. Everything.
I stayed up all night for days at a time. I worked on it while I was starving and living with my dad, as he neglected me.
This is what I am doing.
If you tell me I will fail, I will keep going in hopes to prove you wrong.
All I see here is people that want to troll. Mr. Wolffe I recommend you pick a small starting project in either java (for minecraft) or C++ for actual usage in minor software so you can get off the ground...
I'll start tomorrow at $60K per year. That seems like it would be worth leaving my current job.
You'll offer healthcare, time off, and other benefits like my current company yes?
Really? You posted a link to a thread that shows off no works, only a wall of text, and a link to planetminecraft and redstone builds to try to prove a point in your management and coding skills? You are just like a politician, many words but nothing gets done. And honestly, although redstone is ''advanced'' it is nowhere near as advanced as coding, nor does it relate to coding.
''My dad neglected me and I was starving''. Bullcrap, you are just trying to get our sympathy (and I don't see how making up a story can get some coders for you)
The best way to do that would be, I dunno, show that you've actually managed something that actually ****ing matters.
THERE IS NO ****ING SUCH THING AS A "CODER". Anybody who calls a programmer or software developer a "coder" is a ****ing dumbass. programming and software development entails a ****ton more than just "writing code".
1. Why would we do that? So far his "trump card" was a few other Minecraftforum threads and some nonsense about being neglected or some ****. "My father neglected me! let me be your manager!" doesn't really work for me, to be honest. Also don't use possessives as plurals. that's just stupid.
Except the proper analogy in this case would be Mr.Wolffe saying "WOW! Look at the price on that car!" and everybody else is pointing out that there is no ****ing car. You don't need to be up close to see that.
All I see are people sick and tired of self-important assholes thinking they have some sort of ability to manage others, particularly when their "credentials" amount to going hungry and being up all night (doing what?) and a few ****ing forum threads. At least I have a ****ing website filled with **** I did I could point to. I don't have to point to some random discussion threads as if they are some sort of credential.
java isn't for minecraft... and C++ in no way is more conducive to "actual usage" (whatever that means). Additionally, I'm not sure what the hell "minor software" means, myself.
IDK... Back seat windows use heavy tint. AKA translucent.
I know a guy who puts it on the back seat windows.