Here's a famous swedish site for computing. They are testing two Asus ROG's in SLI.
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Yeah, Asus believe or not does make alot of their own cards, however they are in very limited quantities and they do this with a lot of AMD/ATI cards as well. I believe this card (Mars 2) is good but I think the price is around $1000 or so USD so for most people that is alot although the cards I have up now equal to about 2,000, but eh they are quite amazing cards I have to say.
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Yeah, Asus believe or not does make alot of their own cards, however they are in very limited quantities and they do this with a lot of AMD/ATI cards as well. I believe this card (Mars 2) is good but I think the price is around $1000 or so USD so for most people that is alot although the cards I have up now equal to about 2,000, but eh they are quite amazing cards I have to say.
4000 US Dollars to be precise.
But it's amazing that 1 card beats GTX 580's in SLI.
Here's a famous swedish site for computing. They are testing two Asus ROG's in SLI.
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DAAAAAAAAAAMN! 59 FPS at 2560X1600 with 4xAA and High Resolution textures? I only get about 5 FPS with that setup on my laptop at 1600X900... I better start saving up for a new build...
DAAAAAAAAAAMN! 59 FPS at 2560X1600 with 4xAA and High Resolution textures? I only get about 5 FPS with that setup on my laptop at 1600X900... I better start saving up for a new build...
I don't think you'll have a chance. As I said, they'll be on about 4000 US Dollars. That's more than a build capable of running everything.
Ok, where's your i7 990 extreme? You know it will beat any AMD processor by a mile? Oh, sorry, I forgot that AMD's are the best processors in the world O.o
Seriously, get rid of that cocky attitude and stop pretending you know everything from everything. After that, someone might actually take you seriously.
Two ROG Mars II's? I doubt. Only the cards themselves will equal about 4000 US Dollars. And do not take any offence by this, but I really do doubt you have that kind of money.
I could, but TBH I am not that interested in them, they don't look all that appetizing, and as I said, dual-gpu cards are way less reliable than a simply SLI setup.
This is what I plan to pick up, the 1.5 GB is a bit of a limiting factor, but I like them because of how much fun they look to OC. http://www.newegg.co...AG-_-14-121-429
but Bulldozer and a new closed loop cooling system comes first. I am thinking the Antec 920.
I could, but TBH I am not that interested in them, they don't look all that appetizing, and as I said, dual-gpu cards are way less reliable than a simply SLI setup.
This is what I plan to pick up, the 1.5 GB is a bit of a limiting factor, but I like them because of how much fun they look to OC. http://www.newegg.co...AG-_-14-121-429
but Bulldozer and a new closed loop cooling system comes first. I am thinking the Antec 920.
I could, but TBH I am not that interested in them, they don't look all that appetizing, and as I said, dual-gpu cards are way less reliable than a simply SLI setup.
This is what I plan to pick up, the 1.5 GB is a bit of a limiting factor, but I like them because of how much fun they look to OC. http://www.newegg.co...AG-_-14-121-429
but Bulldozer and a new closed loop cooling system comes first. I am thinking the Antec 920.
1) 990X is stable under hot conditions though
2)Why waste your money on such an expensive graphics card when you can get a cheaper one that will give you the same performance (not the same FPS, but they will most likely be above the refresh rate of your monitor)
3)Closed loop water systems are a waste of money. Custom loops are the way to go.
2)Why waste your money on such an expensive graphics card when you can get a cheaper one that will give you the same performance (not the same FPS, but they will most likely be above the refresh rate of your monitor)
3)Closed loop water systems are a waste of money. Custom loops are the way to go.
Indeed, TheFieldZy. Honestly, an EVGA GTX 580 liquid cooled at stock clock speed will perform the same as the Asus card.
Anyways, don't waste your money on a GTX 580, the 600 series is coming out in Q1 2011.
2)Why waste your money on such an expensive graphics card when you can get a cheaper one that will give you the same performance (not the same FPS, but they will most likely be above the refresh rate of your monitor)
3)Closed loop water systems are a waste of money. Custom loops are the way to go.
1) Doesn't matter, its better to build it to run cooler *cough* AMD *cough* than simply building it to tolerate hotter conditions.
2) Tearing only really occurs in excess of 200 FPS, and the smoother, the better.
3) I would agree in almost all cases, but they are also not bad. 58C is completely acceptable, which is what I am running on an old H50. (full load) My next build will be in a cube with a 4 radiator triple kit. That means a loop for graphics, CPU, RAM, and either HDD's, or possibly I will stick a PS3 in there and water cool that as well (yes its possible)
1) Doesn't matter, its better to build it to run cooler *cough* AMD *cough* than simply building it to tolerate hotter conditions.
2) Tearing only really occurs in excess of 200 FPS, and the smoother, the better.
3) I would agree in almost all cases, but they are also not bad. 58C is completely acceptable, which is what I am running on an old H50. (full load) My next build will be in a cube with a 4 radiator triple kit. That means a loop for graphics, CPU, RAM, and either HDD's, or possibly I will stick a PS3 in there and water cool that as well (yes its possible)
1) Why?
2) That had nothing to do with my point. Its cheaper to get a graphics card thats cheaper and get another for SLI or crossfire and give you the same performance in the end. You are losing money.
3)you do realize that most air coolers of the same price as water coolers show better temps?
2) That had nothing to do with my point. Its cheaper to get a graphics card thats cheaper and get another for SLI or crossfire and give you the same performance in the end. You are losing money.
3)you do realize that most air coolers of the same price as water coolers show better temps?
1) It reduces the work your CPU cooler must go through, reducing noise (if your into silent builds, mine makes 0 noise at 100% gaming load)
2) Losing money is relative, better to be future proof for when voxel rendering goes mainstream.
3) So buy an expensive closed loop water system. Computers are holes in the ground to throw money at, its like a boat, if you want a good one, you have to part with your money.
1) It reduces the work your CPU cooler must go through, reducing noise (if your into silent builds, mine makes 0 noise at 100% gaming load)
2) Losing money is relative, better to be future proof for when voxel rendering goes mainstream.
3) So buy an expensive closed loop water system. Computers are holes in the ground to throw money at, its like a boat, if you want a good one, you have to part with your money.
1) No no no. If it can stand higher temps the CPU cooler doesn't have to work as hard to keep it cool. Who cares about noise? Buy headphones
2) And when will this happen? Not soon. You will probably have completely new parts including a new graphics card by the time that happens.
3) Its good to own a boat, better to have a friend that owns a boat. Nulled your analogy. You are wrong. Its better, more cost effective, and gives you overall better performance to buy a cheaper graphics card and upgrading it later. Yes, you do need a good budget to get a good computer, but that doesn't necessarily mean you need to get the best parts. Prepare for what you need and nothing more. Expensive air cooling gives better performance than expensive closed loops too!
1) No no no. If it can stand higher temps the CPU cooler doesn't have to work as hard to keep it cool. Who cares about noise? Buy headphones
2) And when will this happen? Not soon. You will probably have completely new parts including a new graphics card by the time that happens.
3) Its good to own a boat, better to have a friend that owns a boat. Nulled your analogy. You are wrong. Its better, more cost effective, and gives you overall better performance to buy a cheaper graphics card and upgrading it later. Yes, you do need a good budget to get a good computer, but that doesn't necessarily mean you need to get the best parts. Prepare for what you need and nothing more. Expensive air cooling gives better performance than expensive closed loops too!
1) The cooler your processor runs the less failure prone it is, and the less chance for performance degradation.
2) If it can run 20-30 FPS on a mid-range laptop, I am sure two GTX 580's will do the trick.
3) In that case, someone has to be the friend, I can now blow my uncles mind away with giving him the change to max out Crysis at 60 fps, something he could never do (he bought a mac, lol)
So basically, you're willing to get a ton worse cpu from AMD instead of the 990 extreme, just because it's normal operating temperature is higher?
Worse? No, AMD processors are not bad, they may not be the absolute best, but as I said, my beef with Intel is not over there processors, but over their company. Also, the new wave of processors is coming, why blow $1000 bucks on something soon to be outdated. I love spending money, but not over something that stupid.
Also, AMD processors are a bunch of fun to overclock, Intel's just lay back and take it, AMD's will kick and scratch you before they give up a 4 GHz and above clocking, that's what I like to see.
1)No. If its made to stand higher temperature is will be able to stay less failure prone under those conditions.
2) Yes, but it would still be cheaper to get a newer graphics card when it comes out that is mid ranged. GTX 580s will be old news and probably still overpriced.
3) I'm sorry you were spoiled as a child and that it will ruin every moment of your life onward. Have fun with your oodles of money and lack of friends.
Ahem, aren't you polite. I don't see why this argument must continue, we are all in agreement that the ultimate computer in terms of processing power, would be either dual Xenon's at this time, or in the future dual DB's or Ivy's. If your really dedicated, throw in four Nvidia Tesla's, and I would say your close to about 10 grand at that point.
As for your response on 3, sure I am the one with no friends. I actually have friends in real life, In your case I don't believe your dedicated bash group on a forums counts. As for being spoiled, no. I work for my money. I also consider that flaming.
Is it really? Hmm, might have a look at it then.
Here's a famous swedish site for computing. They are testing two Asus ROG's in SLI.
Can't read? Translator.
Yeah, Asus believe or not does make alot of their own cards, however they are in very limited quantities and they do this with a lot of AMD/ATI cards as well. I believe this card (Mars 2) is good but I think the price is around $1000 or so USD so for most people that is alot although the cards I have up now equal to about 2,000, but eh they are quite amazing cards I have to say.
4000 US Dollars to be precise.
But it's amazing that 1 card beats GTX 580's in SLI.
DAAAAAAAAAAMN! 59 FPS at 2560X1600 with 4xAA and High Resolution textures? I only get about 5 FPS with that setup on my laptop at 1600X900... I better start saving up for a new build...
I don't think you'll have a chance. As I said, they'll be on about 4000 US Dollars. That's more than a build capable of running everything.
Yeah, that's the big downside. I'll go with quad GTX 680s liquid cooled when they come out.
990 runs hot, nuff said.
I could, but TBH I am not that interested in them, they don't look all that appetizing, and as I said, dual-gpu cards are way less reliable than a simply SLI setup.
This is what I plan to pick up, the 1.5 GB is a bit of a limiting factor, but I like them because of how much fun they look to OC.
http://www.newegg.co...AG-_-14-121-429
but Bulldozer and a new closed loop cooling system comes first. I am thinking the Antec 920.
Lol nobody cares.
U jelly?
1) 990X is stable under hot conditions though
2)Why waste your money on such an expensive graphics card when you can get a cheaper one that will give you the same performance (not the same FPS, but they will most likely be above the refresh rate of your monitor)
3)Closed loop water systems are a waste of money. Custom loops are the way to go.
Thinking about coming a mod to simply not moderate.
Indeed, TheFieldZy. Honestly, an EVGA GTX 580 liquid cooled at stock clock speed will perform the same as the Asus card.
Anyways, don't waste your money on a GTX 580, the 600 series is coming out in Q1 2011.
1) Doesn't matter, its better to build it to run cooler *cough* AMD *cough* than simply building it to tolerate hotter conditions.
2) Tearing only really occurs in excess of 200 FPS, and the smoother, the better.
3) I would agree in almost all cases, but they are also not bad. 58C is completely acceptable, which is what I am running on an old H50. (full load) My next build will be in a cube with a 4 radiator triple kit. That means a loop for graphics, CPU, RAM, and either HDD's, or possibly I will stick a PS3 in there and water cool that as well (yes its possible)
1) Why?
2) That had nothing to do with my point. Its cheaper to get a graphics card thats cheaper and get another for SLI or crossfire and give you the same performance in the end. You are losing money.
3)you do realize that most air coolers of the same price as water coolers show better temps?
Thinking about coming a mod to simply not moderate.
1) It reduces the work your CPU cooler must go through, reducing noise (if your into silent builds, mine makes 0 noise at 100% gaming load)
2) Losing money is relative, better to be future proof for when voxel rendering goes mainstream.
3) So buy an expensive closed loop water system. Computers are holes in the ground to throw money at, its like a boat, if you want a good one, you have to part with your money.
1) No no no. If it can stand higher temps the CPU cooler doesn't have to work as hard to keep it cool. Who cares about noise? Buy headphones
2) And when will this happen? Not soon. You will probably have completely new parts including a new graphics card by the time that happens.
3) Its good to own a boat, better to have a friend that owns a boat. Nulled your analogy. You are wrong. Its better, more cost effective, and gives you overall better performance to buy a cheaper graphics card and upgrading it later. Yes, you do need a good budget to get a good computer, but that doesn't necessarily mean you need to get the best parts. Prepare for what you need and nothing more. Expensive air cooling gives better performance than expensive closed loops too!
Thinking about coming a mod to simply not moderate.
1) The cooler your processor runs the less failure prone it is, and the less chance for performance degradation.
2) If it can run 20-30 FPS on a mid-range laptop, I am sure two GTX 580's will do the trick.
3) In that case, someone has to be the friend, I can now blow my uncles mind away with giving him the change to max out Crysis at 60 fps, something he could never do (he bought a mac, lol)
Worse? No, AMD processors are not bad, they may not be the absolute best, but as I said, my beef with Intel is not over there processors, but over their company. Also, the new wave of processors is coming, why blow $1000 bucks on something soon to be outdated. I love spending money, but not over something that stupid.
Also, AMD processors are a bunch of fun to overclock, Intel's just lay back and take it, AMD's will kick and scratch you before they give up a 4 GHz and above clocking, that's what I like to see.
Ahem, aren't you polite. I don't see why this argument must continue, we are all in agreement that the ultimate computer in terms of processing power, would be either dual Xenon's at this time, or in the future dual DB's or Ivy's. If your really dedicated, throw in four Nvidia Tesla's, and I would say your close to about 10 grand at that point.
As for your response on 3, sure I am the one with no friends. I actually have friends in real life, In your case I don't believe your dedicated bash group on a forums counts. As for being spoiled, no. I work for my money. I also consider that flaming.
Watercooling Ps3's, watercooling HDD's.
You sicken me casey.