I think a common misinterpretation on this forums is the link between age and maturity. Age is a factor that can affect maturity, but not all 10 year olds are immature brats. I know several people who are normal, under the age of 12. However, these games do indeed attract more people who are more immature, but also attract mature kids.
I don't really play FPS games, when I was 10 I did watch my father play GTA and I have played Assassins creed 2 and brotherhood recently (I'm 15). However, I had known that such action where not to be repeated in real life (obviously) and I only saw my father play GTA once in a while. I actually played football games, etc.
I don't really think there is a lot of people who are thick enough to not know the difference between games and real life, be the person 10 or 40. However, I do not really think kids under 12 should really play FPS games, at least on a regular basis. Not because they are annoying or anything, but for their own benifit.
EDIT : Lokomo, I didn't see your post as you posted while I was typing, but I agree with what you said. People need to understand what war actually is and understand that what happens in the game should never be repeated in real life.
Well I also agree with you, my good sir or madam (Though I think your a sir), you have very valid points, as it does not depend ENTIRELY on the age but it IS a factor that maturity depends on. You might be 40 and not mature, but another person could be 8 and mature. As an added thing I forgot to mention earlier, about the only games I play are Minecraft, Marvel Vs. Capcom3, MarioKart (Any of them), Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing, the Pokemon games (Using Wi-Fi I met someone on the other side of the country!), and, my personal favorite, the Super Mario Galaxy series. I rarely play our XBOX and when I do, I don't play FPS games.
But we also need to know of a non-gaming example of someone maturing, to get a more clear look at what we are really talking about, and also to see that there's a difference. Let's say that your about 13, and your older sibling leaves for about a month and a half to do Drum Corp. When there's about 2 weeks left one of you parents also leaves, and the parent that is left is rather strict. Let's say that you, when forced to do another task that you usually didn't do, you suddenly had to do, like mowing the back lawn (If you have one). About 4 months ago you would have normally complained excessively to try to get your way but you fail. Now, today when you must do this task you perform the task without complaining but you DO ask questions that make sense and learn. You might scalp the lawn a little bit, but that can be healed in most situations. And when you are done you feel like you have completed another milestone in the thousands of milestones in life. No it isn't learning to mow the lawn, but it IS not complaining when learning a new task, and asking questions that make sense to the situation and asking for help when you need it. Just so you know, this example was made by what I have recently gone through and what I have observed Sadly, the line between real life maturity and gaming maturity is a very,very fine line, so thin that you might cross it on accident.
Well, I think I have made my point here. This is Lokomo, Signing out for the time being.
PS: I believe I forgot to mention that my family has participated (except for my father and my mothers side of the family as far as I know) in some sort of event that helped or destroyed the nation. My great-Grandfather crossed the Oregon Trail, we still have his knives from then. My grandfather was in WWII, I still remember when I was informed of that, and remember when we would watch the squirrels through his patio door and feed them peanuts, and remember the last day I saw him, in the Hospital, slowly, ever so slowly, dieing.
FWIW, the 6 months I owned a 360 I came across just as many whiny brat 12 yr olds as I did 20+ yr old basement dwelling trash talking trolls. Age isn't really a factor. The idiot 12 yr olds will probably just evolve into the latter. And the latter were probably just as stupid as a kid.
I'm 12 but my voice broke so yea, people ain't (propposedly said like that) gonna be hating on me.
I don't talk trash online like wag one blud, you dizzle wastleman.
I be calm because I can't be asked to fight on a mic, I rather like talking face to face so they can't "I'll come round your house" -- A fail theat, or phase "I'd"
I just hate when little kids act annoying, trash talking and screaming - Good god I hate the high pitch yelling like a choir of boys with their balls chopped off.
I'm 12 but my voice broke so yea, people ain't (propposedly said like that) gonna be hating on me.
I don't talk trash online like wag one blud, you dizzle wastleman.
I be calm because I can't be asked to fight on a mic, I rather like talking face to face so they can't "I'll come round your house" -- A fail theat, or phase "I'd"
I just hate when little kids act annoying, trash talking and screaming - Good god I hate the high pitch yelling like a choir of boys with their balls chopped off.
Nothing personal, but this is a bit of an example of the kind of vulgarity used in Xbox Live.
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When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. I don't want your damn lemons! I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!
Agreed. Seems like he's the reason this thread exists. Well, not really, but...
I was about to get all angry at a certain weirdo here (hint hint, TehDancingZombie) but decided against it for the sake of my sanity. You got lucky this time Zombie....you got lucky...
I don't believe little kids should be in video games. We have to draw the violence line somewhere. I know there was a big controversy about being able to shoot police officers in games (like you can in Grand Theft Auto) but let's leave children out of it. I don't want to start seeing youtube videos of video game child-killing sprees.
I don't believe little kids should be in video games. We have to draw the violence line somewhere. I know there was a big controversy about being able to shoot police officers in games (like you can in Grand Theft Auto) but let's leave children out of it. I don't want to start seeing youtube videos of video game child-killing sprees.
i c wat u did der.
And I agree, seeing as it would be odd if you could kill the village children in the first Fable.
And I agree, seeing as it would be odd if you could kill the village children in the first Fable.
There's going to be children in Skyrim.
:3
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got a psx like 2 months after it came out... the first game we ever had was rated M, can't remember the name of it exactly, but i know i saved the CD for sentimental purposes :biggrin.gif: it was some hack n' slash vampire game or something like that. one of those games that would be rated T nowadays because it's nothing really bad, some gore, no nudity or anything like that. my first real M game i got was GTA3 when i was like 10. that game was so much fun i didn't even understand many of the sexual references at the time anyways. I liked to cheat tanks into the game and go on murderous rampages. it's too bad i don't have a tank irl *trollface*
When i see people play these games and think its normal for you for instance (thanks cod you make a real nice example) you gunning down a entire DAMN AIRPORT! I mean ya video games shouldn't be played by kids. Why? cause people that make games like the idiots that made all the cods (after the first 2) think it would be fun to genicide a whole airport. Most people under 18 don't even know what it is like to go to war.Most people don't even get death cause its hard to shoot people and out in war and servive cause there is no respawn, no restart, no way to come back. Some live some die, boo hoo sad story and if you live through a battle guesse what. For the rest of your live you have to know that you killed another guy or girl and he aint coming back never no matter what you do. People talk **** but you little peice of **** brats answer me this. If you were just given a gun and told to shoot the person beside you would you cause that's war. Doesn't matter if its your best friend or your dad or even your girlfriend/wife if he's not on your side and not neutral but against you, you shoot him cause that's war. Honestly only about 10% - 22% could say they would. I would but im ****ed up. And i bet all you kids if where all of a sudden on a battlefield you would get shellshock. And that for you that don't know it is when your all emotions get overloaded by the gun shots and watching everyone around you die. If you could honestly say that you could live in the game your playing then play it if you can't sell it cause you don't need to play it.
Well I also agree with you, my good sir or madam (Though I think your a sir), you have very valid points, as it does not depend ENTIRELY on the age but it IS a factor that maturity depends on. You might be 40 and not mature, but another person could be 8 and mature. As an added thing I forgot to mention earlier, about the only games I play are Minecraft, Marvel Vs. Capcom3, MarioKart (Any of them), Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing, the Pokemon games (Using Wi-Fi I met someone on the other side of the country!), and, my personal favorite, the Super Mario Galaxy series. I rarely play our XBOX and when I do, I don't play FPS games.
But we also need to know of a non-gaming example of someone maturing, to get a more clear look at what we are really talking about, and also to see that there's a difference. Let's say that your about 13, and your older sibling leaves for about a month and a half to do Drum Corp. When there's about 2 weeks left one of you parents also leaves, and the parent that is left is rather strict. Let's say that you, when forced to do another task that you usually didn't do, you suddenly had to do, like mowing the back lawn (If you have one). About 4 months ago you would have normally complained excessively to try to get your way but you fail. Now, today when you must do this task you perform the task without complaining but you DO ask questions that make sense and learn. You might scalp the lawn a little bit, but that can be healed in most situations. And when you are done you feel like you have completed another milestone in the thousands of milestones in life. No it isn't learning to mow the lawn, but it IS not complaining when learning a new task, and asking questions that make sense to the situation and asking for help when you need it. Just so you know, this example was made by what I have recently gone through and what I have observed Sadly, the line between real life maturity and gaming maturity is a very,very fine line, so thin that you might cross it on accident.
Well, I think I have made my point here. This is Lokomo, Signing out for the time being.
PS: I believe I forgot to mention that my family has participated (except for my father and my mothers side of the family as far as I know) in some sort of event that helped or destroyed the nation. My great-Grandfather crossed the Oregon Trail, we still have his knives from then. My grandfather was in WWII, I still remember when I was informed of that, and remember when we would watch the squirrels through his patio door and feed them peanuts, and remember the last day I saw him, in the Hospital, slowly, ever so slowly, dieing.
i guess its all about preferance to what you like to hear, spiney.
some people annoy thee, and some dont.
(btw, nice avatar!)
I don't talk trash online like wag one blud, you dizzle wastleman.
I be calm because I can't be asked to fight on a mic, I rather like talking face to face so they can't "I'll come round your house" -- A fail theat, or phase "I'd"
I just hate when little kids act annoying, trash talking and screaming - Good god I hate the high pitch yelling like a choir of boys with their balls chopped off.
Nothing personal, but this is a bit of an example of the kind of vulgarity used in Xbox Live.
FFS, I am obviously wonderful.
I know but thats the only example I could think of, I will think of something when i'm taking a crap or about to sleep, I think more into stuff then.
You sure do love handing out examples, don't you?
He seems to be quite good at it, also.
FFS, I am obviously wonderful.
Agreed. Seems like he's the reason this thread exists. Well, not really, but...
I was about to get all angry at a certain weirdo here (hint hint, TehDancingZombie) but decided against it for the sake of my sanity. You got lucky this time Zombie....you got lucky...
We love you too :biggrin.gif:
i c wat u did der.
And I agree, seeing as it would be odd if you could kill the village children in the first Fable.
There's going to be children in Skyrim.
:3
FFS, I am obviously wonderful.
He... hehehe...
Oh look a dragon.
SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
we did...
and?
Well Our idea wouldn't have gone so well