Before I could touch a shooter game, my dad sat me down, made me watch saving private ryan from start to finish, and gave me a full walkthrough of why war is horrible. I die a little inside when I hear kids talking and they have no idea what war is, and they are not remotely aware that war is hell on earth.
This is one way of dealing with it too...My grandfather was in WWII,I never really got told war story's or stuff like that...But Being curious I have always been interested in such wars....I would never want to be in a war...EVER....There horrible horrible hell's on earth...I just wish sometimes more people would know that.....I don't like those kids who thinks war is funny in anyway..I know family's that have had people in war/lost in war...Though my grandfather survived the war, Him not speaking about it much kinda gave an example on how horrible it must of been...There the only exception i give to not hating on them...Any kid who thinks that way...any...will get hated
Using this forum has caused me to develop a passionate dislike of people below the age of about 15. They usually don't read, don't pay attention, and generally derp the place up wherever you find them.
Oh, and the more mature ones are always so up-the-ass about how much BETTER they are than their peers. Clearly they fail to see irony in that.
Now your most likely thinking "oh god no....not another Hate/flame/complaint thread" But this one is different
I'm wondering what you think on younger Children playing mature games(something like a Action FPS "COD" "HALO" "BATTLEFIELD" ETC) Like what do you believe on this matter?....(you don't have to read my opinion you can skip it)
In my opinion I believe its Kinda okay if the kid is roughly over 14-15 and up to watch or play these types of video games if they understand the fact that if you did most the stuff in the video games there not just gonna respawn...(or You could die from doing that ETC ETC you know the basics)But they still need to be limited from certain games until there more mature.....Plus who ever likes 10 years or under in there match/game? manly because its either there voices(sorry but i had to say it)and its a bit like "how the? did he learn those words?" kinda thing...Even I stop swearing if a kid is in my house(lets say someone bought them with them I would stop playing online and or close my door and Control what i say..
You know common respect for the parents and the child...That's why i hate meeting them online Its kinda like well what do i do?...I wanna have fun but they might or could Inhibit my play, not because i don't like them its just the fact there playing something voilent i would never let a kid see until there older...even though real life may say otherwise sometimes you know if something happens on the street or at school whatever )
Even after that rant I'm gonna say you don't have to read my opinion...I'm asking what you think about little kids in video games Note i don't like flaming or hate But if thats all you feel about this topic just don't post pure hate Its worthless and not worth even talking about(You can however post why for whatever reason you dont like them in games but not "I HATE THOSS *insert Swears slang etc*
I agree
Even though I was playing Metal Gear solid at 5yrs old
I agree
Even though I was playing Metal Gear solid at 5yrs old
o.o That's an achievement? I thought all kids who are playing video games now at least beat MGS and OoT.
But either way, it's a video game. If the kid is so easily corrupted by the violence in the video game, then keeping it away from it isn't going to help. There's TV, popular culture, and all the other kids.
They annoy me as much as the next person. And if they don't pass the age restriction of whatever country, I believe they shouldn't be on it. But, if they are. As long as they don't use the mic, and just play the game I don't have a problem.
There is no doubt that violence in video games desensitizes children But the real question is, does it matter? And if it does, in this world where you can get access to virtually anything in an instant, is there a point in trying to censor it?
Wow. So you hate an entire age group just because of what a majority has done? There's some of us that still have the decency to not be one of those screaming brats, or just not to talk at all. I myself (14) just mute everyone so I don't have to deal with any of it. I read, pay attention, and don't derp. Now I'm not saying I'm better than my peers. I'm just claiming that not everyone below 15 is such an ass. Yeah, people below 15 usually "derp up the place" but that can also apply to any other age group. Ive heard grown men cussing out one of those 8 year olds. That's just ****ed up there. So don't be prejudice.
The thing is, it's true. You can argue that the exceptions should make it so that you can't hate on the whole group, but it's the exception that proves the rule.
I personally know a 7 year old that plays COD and he is ok. When he does get mad he does rage just not like you would expect. I've played COD and Halo with him before and hes good to play with, he doesn't suck at this field.
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Why you be a minen' in me mines? If you need to contact me, a private message is the way to go. I almost never come back to a topic after I've commented on it.
Jon Stewart covers the subject in his usual hilarious way, pointing out the usual logical fallacies. *note, they do show a clip of someone getting ripped in half*
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Parents of the past generation are terrible.. There has been a study saying the future generation(s) is(are) actually the first since the 70s to make less money than their parents.
Parents have stopped caring about their kids it seems, and it's awful that they even get to keep them (Again, talking majority here)
This problem can be explained logically. Turn back to the 1950's. The baby boom. Everyone's parents had lived through the Great Depression. They learned how to handle money.
They taught their children how to handle money, and made sure that they would have an easier chance of getting it. Now, comes the next generation, who just knows that they want money. They haven't been taught very well by their parents how to handle money. This keeps going in a downward spiral.
Until we hit depression. Which should have happened in late 2008-early 2009. It would have been ultimately good for Americans to have to live through another Depression. Instead, however, the Government spent taxpayer dollars to bailout the assholes who got us here, and we saw record bonuses for those same people; and Americans are still terrible with money.
This is, however, just my opinion as someone who is good with money. My grandmother (the Depression Generation) is good with it. My mother (as an accountant) is good with it. I've been taught how to handle money.
It has nothing to do with parents caring. It has to do with what people in America have built up to be the standard of living. Which is unsustainable. And lacking the knowledge of how to handle their money. There's a reason many Americans are in debt up to their eyeballs.
I'm thirteen, and I don't even want to play those games. FPSes are bland and grossly overdone. The one I had the most fun with was TF2, and I didn't even continue playing.
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Before I could touch a shooter game, my dad sat me down, made me watch saving private ryan from start to finish, and gave me a full walkthrough of why war is horrible. I die a little inside when I hear kids talking and they have no idea what war is, and they are not remotely aware that war is hell on earth.
13 and plays very little shooters, at least not online. Most I play is the Fallout series, 3 and Vegas to be exact. Oh, and I have forgotten those games, as FPS games have flooded the market. Besides, Minecraft is a FPA, a far better category, right?
My grandfather (dead at the moment but will forever remember him) was in the Air Force during WWII. He survived the war and managed to make it into the 2000's until he left us.
Did you guys hear about the kid that got his mom to talk to the people he was playing with on the mic (Kinect if i can be correct)? Kids (In this case I'm referring to those that know life more than anything else, these people aren't really kids, and I fall under said category, several, possibly lethal, injury's, seems those revolve around my head too...) should not be allowed to play any rated M game until they understand the following concepts.
They know what war is, particularly aimed at the war-like games.
They know that they can't attempt anything in said games without some major degree of penalty, least being fined and juvenile detention (aka jail for the 15 and under) and most being death.
They fully know and understand that any situation involving speaking (text-speak and mic-speak) that they get them into that they must get themselves out of. It's what life is about in a small way.
And finally, well, I guess if they have broken any of these (asked for help, don't know what war fully is, and attempts game-like action) then those permissions would be revoked (like removed for a set period of time)
My brother didn't even get his first FPS game until he was 14-15 (I forget what age to be exact), and even then he followed thew above guidelines. And that, If I'm correct, was one of the more minor M games Halo 3 (Or was that for Christmas one year?), anyways it was either Halo3 or Fallout3, I forget which it was that he saved up for. We (Me, my Mom, and my brother) went to the local Gamestop and purchased said game. My brother, If I am correct, didn't touch it until the next day. And even then he only played it for like 2-3 hours WITH BREAKS in them. Today he barely even touches those games, as he has a lot of AP work to do and that takes up a lot of his time.
And about you dieing a little inside hearing those kids talk about war and them not understanding, you might not have read a book called "The Giver" have you? The main character felt the same ay after an incident like this, the children playing a game similar to War. I also die a little inside (though significantly more than you do, due to my grandfather) when I hear teens and children alike talk about war like it's a good thing, like it's how we solve problems. War is not how we solve problems. We solve problems through diplomacy and if that fails we then go to war. Sadly the US President Obama skipped the Diplomacy step when we bombed Libya...Every day I feel sadder and sadder due to what problems we have gotten ourselves into. And we have called hard and long acts of diplomacy wars, like the Iraq War, which is still called that and deserves a name that doesn't make people think people dieing and tanks and all that.
@EmVee Wow your so cruel. You know, it's a good thing that I haven't met you in real life. I would probably leave you. I will inform you of something that my family has taught me and my brother. Assuming is a bad, bad thing to do. And you are doing just that. You are assuming that the 15 and Under crowd are total idiots and mess everything up where ever they go. Fortunately, I know some people that aren't like that, as a matter of fact those are the people that I get along most with, as they are my friends. One of my friends brother (He's 15 I think, the brother) has altered a standard RC Car to go up to 60 miles per hour. 60 miles per hour. And he has also made a "mod" that makes what is called the Bermuda Triangle. Random things occur once you discover it.
Well, I think I've taken up a tad too much space here, Good-Bye.
Now your most likely thinking "oh god no....not another Hate/flame/complaint thread" But this one is different
I'm wondering what you think on younger Children playing mature games(something like a Action FPS "COD" "HALO" "BATTLEFIELD" ETC) Like what do you believe on this matter?....(you don't have to read my opinion you can skip it)
In my opinion I believe its Kinda okay if the kid is roughly over 14-15 and up to watch or play these types of video games if they understand the fact that if you did most the stuff in the video games there not just gonna respawn...(or You could die from doing that ETC ETC you know the basics)But they still need to be limited from certain games until there more mature.....Plus who ever likes 10 years or under in there match/game? manly because its either there voices(sorry but i had to say it)and its a bit like "how the? did he learn those words?" kinda thing...Even I stop swearing if a kid is in my house(lets say someone bought them with them I would stop playing online and or close my door and Control what i say..
You know common respect for the parents and the child...That's why i hate meeting them online Its kinda like well what do i do?...I wanna have fun but they might or could Inhibit my play, not because i don't like them its just the fact there playing something voilent i would never let a kid see until there older...even though real life may say otherwise sometimes you know if something happens on the street or at school whatever )
Even after that rant I'm gonna say you don't have to read my opinion...I'm asking what you think about little kids in video games Note i don't like flaming or hate But if thats all you feel about this topic just don't post pure hate Its worthless and not worth even talking about(You can however post why for whatever reason you dont like them in games but not "I HATE THOSS *insert Swears slang etc*
Depends on time of day. EU children can be just as annoying if not more, can't stand the accents
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This is one way of dealing with it too...My grandfather was in WWII,I never really got told war story's or stuff like that...But Being curious I have always been interested in such wars....I would never want to be in a war...EVER....There horrible horrible hell's on earth...I just wish sometimes more people would know that.....I don't like those kids who thinks war is funny in anyway..I know family's that have had people in war/lost in war...Though my grandfather survived the war, Him not speaking about it much kinda gave an example on how horrible it must of been...There the only exception i give to not hating on them...Any kid who thinks that way...any...will get hated
I don't get them though.
Germans though, they're awesome.
I shouldn't be so harsh, since my voice is cracking right now.
I'm 12 and I accidentally the microphone.
The exact opposite for me XD
Oh, and the more mature ones are always so up-the-ass about how much BETTER they are than their peers. Clearly they fail to see irony in that.
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I agree
Even though I was playing Metal Gear solid at 5yrs old
o.o That's an achievement? I thought all kids who are playing video games now at least beat MGS and OoT.
But either way, it's a video game. If the kid is so easily corrupted by the violence in the video game, then keeping it away from it isn't going to help. There's TV, popular culture, and all the other kids.
Yeah, but for one, MGS is a hard hitting piece of art,
and most people here would have been 2-3 years old then
I agree with you, we american's are assholes. we think we know everything, but you may get some major hatmail for saying that, just a warining
The thing is, it's true. You can argue that the exceptions should make it so that you can't hate on the whole group, but it's the exception that proves the rule.
If you need to contact me, a private message is the way to go. I almost never come back to a topic after I've commented on it.
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This problem can be explained logically. Turn back to the 1950's. The baby boom. Everyone's parents had lived through the Great Depression. They learned how to handle money.
They taught their children how to handle money, and made sure that they would have an easier chance of getting it. Now, comes the next generation, who just knows that they want money. They haven't been taught very well by their parents how to handle money. This keeps going in a downward spiral.
Until we hit depression. Which should have happened in late 2008-early 2009. It would have been ultimately good for Americans to have to live through another Depression. Instead, however, the Government spent taxpayer dollars to bailout the assholes who got us here, and we saw record bonuses for those same people; and Americans are still terrible with money.
This is, however, just my opinion as someone who is good with money. My grandmother (the Depression Generation) is good with it. My mother (as an accountant) is good with it. I've been taught how to handle money.
It has nothing to do with parents caring. It has to do with what people in America have built up to be the standard of living. Which is unsustainable. And lacking the knowledge of how to handle their money. There's a reason many Americans are in debt up to their eyeballs.
FFS, I am obviously wonderful.
13 and plays very little shooters, at least not online. Most I play is the Fallout series, 3 and Vegas to be exact. Oh, and I have forgotten those games, as FPS games have flooded the market. Besides, Minecraft is a FPA, a far better category, right?
My grandfather (dead at the moment but will forever remember him) was in the Air Force during WWII. He survived the war and managed to make it into the 2000's until he left us.
Did you guys hear about the kid that got his mom to talk to the people he was playing with on the mic (Kinect if i can be correct)? Kids (In this case I'm referring to those that know life more than anything else, these people aren't really kids, and I fall under said category, several, possibly lethal, injury's, seems those revolve around my head too...) should not be allowed to play any rated M game until they understand the following concepts.
And about you dieing a little inside hearing those kids talk about war and them not understanding, you might not have read a book called "The Giver" have you? The main character felt the same ay after an incident like this, the children playing a game similar to War. I also die a little inside (though significantly more than you do, due to my grandfather) when I hear teens and children alike talk about war like it's a good thing, like it's how we solve problems. War is not how we solve problems. We solve problems through diplomacy and if that fails we then go to war. Sadly the US President Obama skipped the Diplomacy step when we bombed Libya...Every day I feel sadder and sadder due to what problems we have gotten ourselves into. And we have called hard and long acts of diplomacy wars, like the Iraq War, which is still called that and deserves a name that doesn't make people think people dieing and tanks and all that.
@EmVee Wow your so cruel. You know, it's a good thing that I haven't met you in real life. I would probably leave you. I will inform you of something that my family has taught me and my brother. Assuming is a bad, bad thing to do. And you are doing just that. You are assuming that the 15 and Under crowd are total idiots and mess everything up where ever they go. Fortunately, I know some people that aren't like that, as a matter of fact those are the people that I get along most with, as they are my friends. One of my friends brother (He's 15 I think, the brother) has altered a standard RC Car to go up to 60 miles per hour. 60 miles per hour. And he has also made a "mod" that makes what is called the Bermuda Triangle. Random things occur once you discover it.
Well, I think I've taken up a tad too much space here, Good-Bye.
I think it depends on the maturity of the kid....