I use Knoppix daily, but I've used Ubuntu from 7.04 to 8.10. Tried 11.04 a week ago and its incredible how much they managed to bug it up. Gnome crashed 3 times on me so far and unity performs like ****. Sorry, I'll just switch back to 8.04 or something :I
11.04 is very new. Try out 10.10/10.04, these ones are VERY stable (compared to both 11.04 and 8.04).
If a new version comes out, I'm expecting it to at least run a bit workable, not crash every few minutes for no reason at all. You can't just tell me to use an older version then, that's just silly. Either way, I'll probably burn a disk tonight and see if I can get stuff working. I'm considering to give Fedora a try, it looks nice and I haven't used it before. (not that debian-based is a lot of difference, Knoppix works about the same as any other debian distro to me)
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oh, derp, looks like fedora is RPM based. Worth a try, haven't used that before :smile.gif:
I am currently using Ubuntu 11.04. A week ago I had a bug that crashed the GUI every few hours. Now it works perfectly... I have to say, they are quite good at patching bugs. Just wait a couple of weeks before installing the new release.
I would use one of the distros where you compile and do the whole thing yourself, but with college + girlfriend, I'd rather have an OS that just works with minimal input from me. At least to get it started and actually usable.
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I dual booted Windows XP and Ubuntu in the last quarter of 2010. To be a fan boy, I loved it in every way. It toke like five seconds to boot up the computer into Ubuntu and launch Firefox, it takes a minute for the computer to turn on and load XP, then another 5 for the anti-virus to start up and update and whatever. The only problem I had was trying to install Wacom Tablet drivers, the online instructions were walls of text, a lot of it in language I don't understand. I'm only a Super Window's Geek XP
I do program, which may have made the Terminal easier for me but I don't know a lot about how Operating Systems work, which made some things confusing like the Wacom drivers. I think it was version 10.x
A lot of my friends don't like the new version, with Unity or Gnome 3 or what have you (Whats wrong with it by the way?) and I went back to straight XP for now. If I get a laptop I want to install Linux on that bad boy, because it was an enjoyable experience. I just can't leave FlashDevlop.
A lot of my friends don't like the new version, with Unity or Gnome 3 or what have you (Whats wrong with it by the way?) and I went back to straight XP for now. If I get a laptop I want to install Linux on that bad boy, because it was an enjoyable experience. I just can't leave FlashDevlop.
Unity and Gnome 3 are bad because they're simplifying and taking away too many of the features that make Linux, well Linux. You can hardly change anything in Gnome 3, and Unity is too damn simplified for a desktop OS.
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pro tip: get a older computer (those come really cheap now) and use that as your "testing" box. so u can keep your stable system for everyday stuff and use the test box for all kinds of messing around, thats what i usually do.
plus u will learn more on older hardware.
pro tip: I am poor college student. :sad.gif:
I will learn more on older hardware? How do you figure?
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See, this is why I never really got into Linux... :sad.gif:
Too many goddamn flavors.
I tried Ubuntu, because it just had the name value to me, but I didn't like it too much. It might have been the fact that when partitioning my drive, I did only allocate, like... 20GB to it. XD
I don't remember my version, but it was pretty good. Maybe it's gotten better, but...
Archlinux. I want to know what is running on my OS yet keep it clean and KISS. The introduction of Ubuntu's Unity and Gnome 3 forced me to move to XFCE (I DO NOT want fancy 3D accelerated desktops)
Unity is going to be completely idiotproof, which means experts can't do anything with it. Gnome 3 has no customization available and is ending up to be another KDE 4.0 (Fiasco)
Woo! Glad to see that Wiki page linked here. Also, I've never actually used Unity, but it seems.. eh. It's reasons like that I doubt I'm ever going to use a distribution other than Arch again. Unless, of course, something that works in a same way, but is somehow better comes out.
And as much as I may get shot down for this.. while yes, I agree Gnome 3 has a painfully low amount of customisation available, and a "system settings" program that brings back memories of older, more "pre-packaged" distributions, I do love the workflow it gives. I would use E17 if it didn't segfault every 5 minutes on every machine I've tested it on, but hey-ho. Personally, I lean more towards the window manager, rather than the desktop environment crowd. I like everything to work as I make it work, basically.
pro tip: get a older computer (those come really cheap now) and use that as your "testing" box. so u can keep your stable system for everyday stuff and use the test box for all kinds of messing around, thats what i usually do.
plus u will learn more on older hardware.
pro tip: I am poor college student. :sad.gif:
I will learn more on older hardware? How do you figure?
He means 'learn more about older hardware', I think.
Hmmm... So for myself that never ever touched Linux and almost consider myself a Windows Pro user...
I got this small computer just collecting dust.
It got:
Intel 2.4Ghz CPU
2gig mem
ATI 9700 Pro Graphics
Some sort of sound...
First... Is that enough to run a server for minecraft? Just for me and a couple of friends.
Second... What if I would try to get into all this Linux stuff. What is the best distro for that spec if I just want to use it for Minecraft? (And perhaps Apache, php and MySQL :tongue.gif:)
Remember. I know nothing about Linux.. Nada.. :tongue.gif:
Ps, it's small when speaking of power. The thing is a fulltower, so any help in how to control everything remotely after it's all set up would be great. Gonna put it in my storageroom...
I have me a laptop running Ubuntu 10.04, my desktop/LAN MC server running 11.04 and I have VM's of a 6 or 7 distros on my Windoze machine which I fool around with a bit.
I have my self a Ubunu disk, I was so happy when it came in the mail ^^
Now my piece of crap laptop can has both Vista (crap) and Ubuntu :biggrin.gif:
though i cant say it works good, I have had a few problems with the speakers never working. I've not messed with it in a long time so i dont know if they would work this time.
Ubuntu 11.04 completely broke everything for me. File manager is constantly not responding and I get kernel panics whenever I start minecraft. Quite strange.
So for my desktop, this computer, I'll be sticking with 10.04. I want to find another distribution, but I don't feel I have the technical know-how to safely transfer my /home and everything.
Hmmm... So for myself that never ever touched Linux and almost consider myself a Windows Pro user...
I got this small computer just collecting dust.
It got:
Intel 2.4Ghz CPU
2gig mem
ATI 9700 Pro Graphics
Some sort of sound...
First... Is that enough to run a server for minecraft? Just for me and a couple of friends.
Second... What if I would try to get into all this Linux stuff. What is the best distro for that spec if I just want to use it for Minecraft? (And perhaps Apache, php and MySQL :tongue.gif:)
Remember. I know nothing about Linux.. Nada.. :tongue.gif:
Ps, it's small when speaking of power. The thing is a fulltower, so any help in how to control everything remotely after it's all set up would be great. Gonna put it in my storageroom...
I would suggest CentOS for all of your needs.
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So glad to hear how many people hate what is happening to desktop environments. (you know if you hate them, E-mail the people who write them. They will change it if its what the Linux community wants, and for the most part it seems to be.)
I am also on Ubuntu 10.10. The only reason I want to update is for the updates in the Software Center, I wonder if that can be done in 10.10 without upgrading to 11.04? anyone know?
I downloaded Ubuntu on a very old computer of mine, as an experiment. I was very impressed.
Now I have a Mac, and I may dual-boot it. For absolutely no reason...
I don't own a Mac, so I'm not sure who this problem affects, but I've heard that on certain Macs installing Linux can be a pain. Something about EFI and BIOS, I didn't understand much of it, but a guy on the ubuntu forums was having problems with it.
I am currently using Ubuntu 11.04. A week ago I had a bug that crashed the GUI every few hours. Now it works perfectly... I have to say, they are quite good at patching bugs. Just wait a couple of weeks before installing the new release.
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A lot of my friends don't like the new version, with Unity or Gnome 3 or what have you (Whats wrong with it by the way?) and I went back to straight XP for now. If I get a laptop I want to install Linux on that bad boy, because it was an enjoyable experience. I just can't leave FlashDevlop.
Unity and Gnome 3 are bad because they're simplifying and taking away too many of the features that make Linux, well Linux. You can hardly change anything in Gnome 3, and Unity is too damn simplified for a desktop OS.
pro tip: I am poor college student. :sad.gif:
I will learn more on older hardware? How do you figure?
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I tried Ubuntu, because it just had the name value to me, but I didn't like it too much. It might have been the fact that when partitioning my drive, I did only allocate, like... 20GB to it. XD
I don't remember my version, but it was pretty good. Maybe it's gotten better, but...
I liked it, but more as a toy than a tool.
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Woo! Glad to see that Wiki page linked here. Also, I've never actually used Unity, but it seems.. eh. It's reasons like that I doubt I'm ever going to use a distribution other than Arch again. Unless, of course, something that works in a same way, but is somehow better comes out.
And as much as I may get shot down for this.. while yes, I agree Gnome 3 has a painfully low amount of customisation available, and a "system settings" program that brings back memories of older, more "pre-packaged" distributions, I do love the workflow it gives. I would use E17 if it didn't segfault every 5 minutes on every machine I've tested it on, but hey-ho. Personally, I lean more towards the window manager, rather than the desktop environment crowd. I like everything to work as I make it work, basically.
He means 'learn more about older hardware', I think.
OT: I use Ubuntu Live occasionally.
Perhaps. But how would that benefit me in any way shape or form?
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Klipsch ProMedia 2.1Klipsch S4 | RAT 9 | Das KeyboardI got this small computer just collecting dust.
It got:
Intel 2.4Ghz CPU
2gig mem
ATI 9700 Pro Graphics
Some sort of sound...
First... Is that enough to run a server for minecraft? Just for me and a couple of friends.
Second... What if I would try to get into all this Linux stuff. What is the best distro for that spec if I just want to use it for Minecraft? (And perhaps Apache, php and MySQL :tongue.gif:)
Remember. I know nothing about Linux.. Nada.. :tongue.gif:
Ps, it's small when speaking of power. The thing is a fulltower, so any help in how to control everything remotely after it's all set up would be great. Gonna put it in my storageroom...
Now my piece of crap laptop can has both Vista (crap) and Ubuntu :biggrin.gif:
though i cant say it works good, I have had a few problems with the speakers never working. I've not messed with it in a long time so i dont know if they would work this time.
So for my desktop, this computer, I'll be sticking with 10.04. I want to find another distribution, but I don't feel I have the technical know-how to safely transfer my /home and everything.
I would suggest CentOS for all of your needs.
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig." — Robert Heinlein
OS: Windows 7/Ubuntu 10.10
RAM: 1gb
CPU: 2.7ghz Single Core
Video Card: GeFore 9400 GT
Sound: Onboard
I am also on Ubuntu 10.10. The only reason I want to update is for the updates in the Software Center, I wonder if that can be done in 10.10 without upgrading to 11.04? anyone know?
Agreed, did a fresh install of 11.04, logged in and ..... WTF!!!!
Thought I'd accidentally install that netbook edition :dry.gif:
I don't own a Mac, so I'm not sure who this problem affects, but I've heard that on certain Macs installing Linux can be a pain. Something about EFI and BIOS, I didn't understand much of it, but a guy on the ubuntu forums was having problems with it.