Trouble is that sort of hardware is getting rarer these days, someday you won't be able to get it at all.
if there will ever be an alternative I'd suspect the Pi Foundation to do it, having a Pi computer that could completely take over the functions of Windows 98 and XP with the Nvidia Vulkan drivers would be useful for PC gamers looking for a PC that can run old 32bit and 16bit games better.
since Pi PC's will never be as powerful as the general desktop or laptop computers on the market,
it makes sense that they do the next best thing, retro gaming.
Yeah you are right, hardware will eventually get rare as time goes on, but that's just another reason why people should repair and reuse instead of recycle or throw away.
Either way as long as there's hardware outside i will still consider running games on real hardware better than emulation in every way.
Yeah you are right, hardware will eventually get rare as time goes on, but that's just another reason why people should repair and reuse instead of recycle or throw away.
Either way as long as there's hardware outside i will still consider running games on real hardware better than emulation in every way.
Emulation is more efficient though, because it allows legacy software to run on modern computers.
Newer PC's tend to have better performance per watt.
Emulation does work and can be done with good accuracy if programmed correctly. This has been done on consoles in the form of backwards compatibility, it is not perfect but it does work well enough.
Kega Fusion lets you run Sega Genesis games from the legal collection on Steam, they're not encrypted so they run without problems on Windows 10, 8, 7 and XP.
Nintendo uses emulation software for older games on their platform to run on the Nintendo Switch and 3DS,
it's clear that the future isn't going to be using outdated hardware.
The limiting factor in emulation is how powerful a CPU is, but most desktop and portable electronic CPU's these days are enough to handle MSDOS, SNES and Sega Genesis emulation. I wish I could get Micro Machines 2 to work on DOSBox, other DOS games I've had no issues with on it.
It would be a tie between XP and 7, personally. Vista was hot garbage, despite having a gorgeous GUI. 8/8.1 were a disaster on PC, laptop and tablet and I'm happy to forget about it. 10 and 11 are alright, but they're bloated with so much that I find them annoying, and unusable on my old laptop that I use to run VCDS (a diagnostics and programming software for Volkswagen group cars).
XP was my first proper experience with a computer when I was young. We had an XP desktop and everything about that OS brings back a certain sense of nostalgia. In a way I feel at ease whenever I get to use an XP machine. I feel similar about Windows 7. I downgraded, and I use that term loosely, my 8.1 laptop when I was 12. Hopped between 7 and 10 for a bit, before settling on 7 on the laptop and 10 on my desktop for the GPU drivers.
I mainly use an M1 MacBook Air now, but have nothing against a good Windows system.
I don't feel nostalgia for xp, as I still use it. (Mainly because it's the perfect one for my needs as it has great backwards and forwards compatibility and because I never update my stuff)
I do miss 7 though, didn't see a pc running on it (vm's not included) since I was on school.
Last one of those I saw was on my music class, that the teacher asked me for some help.
And for some reason one of the computers at the computer room uses vista.
Bluescreened on me while I was trying to google info about mesopotamia for a class presentation.
Idk why. Ah yes, it's vista.
(God thanks it wasn't me...)
Alright, I'll stop, this is already longer than I expected.
It would be a tie between XP and 7, personally. Vista was hot garbage, despite having a gorgeous GUI. 8/8.1 were a disaster on PC, laptop and tablet and I'm happy to forget about it. 10 and 11 are alright, but they're bloated with so much that I find them annoying, and unusable on my old laptop that I use to run VCDS (a diagnostics and programming software for Volkswagen group cars).
XP was my first proper experience with a computer when I was young. We had an XP desktop and everything about that OS brings back a certain sense of nostalgia. In a way I feel at ease whenever I get to use an XP machine. I feel similar about Windows 7. I downgraded, and I use that term loosely, my 8.1 laptop when I was 12. Hopped between 7 and 10 for a bit, before settling on 7 on the laptop and 10 on my desktop for the GPU drivers.
I mainly use an M1 MacBook Air now, but have nothing against a good Windows system.
But that gorgeous UI Vista had comes at a cost, more memory and CPU usage which in turn reduced overall performance of the system, obviously there are some features that shouldn't be running at all times if you want an efficient PC for your workstation, home theatre or gaming computer.
And when it comes to full screen applications who cares how fancy a taskbar looks when most of the time we don't even see it? for all its flaws, Windows 9x did something right, keeping the UI basic and simple to use. Obviously 9x is severely outdated and almost nobody uses this anymore. But if there was anything Windows 98 excelled at it was keeping resource usage down so that applications a person uses remained responsive, you could do this with Windows XP as well with the classic UI, which was also compatible with older desktop themes if you used them.
What I want out of an OS is something that works, is fast and is secure,
and Windows 11 for the most part does that for me which is why I use that now.
I'm satisfied with Windows 10. Does what I need. I could do without the forced updates and telemetry, but c'est la vie. Windows 11 looks good, but it needs a few years under its belt before I make the plunge and change over my main workstations.
I'm satisfied with Windows 10. Does what I need. I could do without the forced updates and telemetry, but c'est la vie. Windows 11 looks good, but it needs a few years under its belt before I make the plunge and change over my main workstations.
I hope Microsoft officially releases a Lite version of Windows 11 for older computers, because one of the criticisms that get brought up about it is the TPM 2.0 requirements, among other things, I get there are valid security concerns about it but the simple fact is, it is a nuisance for people to upgrade, what protects people online the most is the use of common sense as well as the installation of an anti malware application to block known threats, it's not perfect but it does work most of the time if you keep your software up to date.
Having tested Windows 11 on a modern PC like my one, I have had occasional software crashes but nothing serious, no BSOD's, they were along the lines of executables hanging from time to time, some software I use including some games I play, have never even crashed on me once on this machine, which points to the hardware being okay. Hardware faults, particularly when RAM is involved has an affect on any software that uses the defective part of the memory, if a CPU is defective, a PC would often not even post or boot up.
Windows Vista: IMO the best looking Windows and runs great on SP2, but it lacks some things from Win7 and doesn't support newer software without extended kernel.
Windows 2000: Pretty much an older WinXP but with Classic theme. I used Windows Me in the mid to late 2000s so the design is quite nostalgic, sadly I didn't have any PC with Win2K back then.
Windows 8.1: When used with classic start menu it's what I'd say the last good Windows, predating Windows-as-a-Service. It runs great even on older hardware and even on HDD
Windows 10 LTSB/LTSC: What Windows 10 should have been, though I still prefer the old Technical Previews of Win10 from back when it was just like Windows 8.1 with a start menu.
Extra notes:
Windows 11 looks overall better than 10 but has too many issues and missing features. And in my opinion the start menu is worse than on Win10, I also hate the "Recommended" part but thankfully there's a hack to remove it.
I hope Windows 12 will be better but I doubt it. Microsoft will most likely going to continue trying to force the use of a Microsoft account and of course Edge and Bing. Forced updates, ads and other bloatware
I only used XP when I was really young. I don't really remember using it very well, but I did use it on my own pc until I was 6ish? and then I got a 9800 gt and I think a core 2 quad. and when me and my uncle put my pc together he gave me a copy of windows 7 and I used it up until late 2017 and I genuinely miss it. Now I use Windows 10 on my desktop and different linux distros on my laptops
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Windows Vista: IMO the best looking Windows and runs great on SP2, but it lacks some things from Win7 and doesn't support newer software without extended kernel.
Windows 2000: Pretty much an older WinXP but with Classic theme. I used Windows Me in the mid to late 2000s so the design is quite nostalgic, sadly I didn't have any PC with Win2K back then.
Windows 8.1: When used with classic start menu it's what I'd say the last good Windows, predating Windows-as-a-Service. It runs great even on older hardware and even on HDD
Windows 10 LTSB/LTSC: What Windows 10 should have been, though I still prefer the old Technical Previews of Win10 from back when it was just like Windows 8.1 with a start menu.
Extra notes:
Windows 11 looks overall better than 10 but has too many issues and missing features. And in my opinion the start menu is worse than on Win10, I also hate the "Recommended" part but thankfully there's a hack to remove it.
I hope Windows 12 will be better but I doubt it. Microsoft will most likely going to continue trying to force the use of a Microsoft account and of course Edge and Bing. Forced updates, ads and other bloatware
On the positive side of it Windows 11 did get native support for RAR archive, Windows XP had native support for Zip archives since it was released, so it's no surprise why the current version of Windows has this. It's probably not as convenient as third party applications as this article suggests, but for most people the ability to open encrypted archives won't be an issue. It would only be an issue for people who use encrypted archives in the first place, which are usually made by yourself, if you did make an encrypted archive then I'd assume you would've already had WinZip or some other third party app capable of it.
If people must use a third party application then I recommend 7Zip, or Winzip which is not a free archiving software if speed of decompression matters this much to people, but it depends on individual needs, for everybody else, it's bloatware and better ignored. I can't be too hard on Windows 11 because Microsoft did try with this one, and it does have plenty of useful features which fit the everyday OS user.
Yeah you are right, hardware will eventually get rare as time goes on, but that's just another reason why people should repair and reuse instead of recycle or throw away.
Either way as long as there's hardware outside i will still consider running games on real hardware better than emulation in every way.
Emulation is more efficient though, because it allows legacy software to run on modern computers.
Newer PC's tend to have better performance per watt.
Emulation does work and can be done with good accuracy if programmed correctly. This has been done on consoles in the form of backwards compatibility, it is not perfect but it does work well enough.
Kega Fusion lets you run Sega Genesis games from the legal collection on Steam, they're not encrypted so they run without problems on Windows 10, 8, 7 and XP.
Nintendo uses emulation software for older games on their platform to run on the Nintendo Switch and 3DS,
it's clear that the future isn't going to be using outdated hardware.
The limiting factor in emulation is how powerful a CPU is, but most desktop and portable electronic CPU's these days are enough to handle MSDOS, SNES and Sega Genesis emulation. I wish I could get Micro Machines 2 to work on DOSBox, other DOS games I've had no issues with on it.
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It pleases me to see that vista didn't get any votes, and that me isn't even in the poll.
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Plz don't mind the necropost this is offtopic after all
Not even my hello world works :'C
(But powerpoint does xd)
Btw what does api stand for?
It would be a tie between XP and 7, personally. Vista was hot garbage, despite having a gorgeous GUI. 8/8.1 were a disaster on PC, laptop and tablet and I'm happy to forget about it. 10 and 11 are alright, but they're bloated with so much that I find them annoying, and unusable on my old laptop that I use to run VCDS (a diagnostics and programming software for Volkswagen group cars).
XP was my first proper experience with a computer when I was young. We had an XP desktop and everything about that OS brings back a certain sense of nostalgia. In a way I feel at ease whenever I get to use an XP machine. I feel similar about Windows 7. I downgraded, and I use that term loosely, my 8.1 laptop when I was 12. Hopped between 7 and 10 for a bit, before settling on 7 on the laptop and 10 on my desktop for the GPU drivers.
I mainly use an M1 MacBook Air now, but have nothing against a good Windows system.
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I don't feel nostalgia for xp, as I still use it. (Mainly because it's the perfect one for my needs as it has great backwards and forwards compatibility and because I never update my stuff)
I do miss 7 though, didn't see a pc running on it (vm's not included) since I was on school.
Last one of those I saw was on my music class, that the teacher asked me for some help.
And for some reason one of the computers at the computer room uses vista.
Bluescreened on me while I was trying to google info about mesopotamia for a class presentation.
Idk why. Ah yes, it's vista.
(God thanks it wasn't me...)
Alright, I'll stop, this is already longer than I expected.
Not even my hello world works :'C
(But powerpoint does xd)
Btw what does api stand for?
But that gorgeous UI Vista had comes at a cost, more memory and CPU usage which in turn reduced overall performance of the system, obviously there are some features that shouldn't be running at all times if you want an efficient PC for your workstation, home theatre or gaming computer.
And when it comes to full screen applications who cares how fancy a taskbar looks when most of the time we don't even see it? for all its flaws, Windows 9x did something right, keeping the UI basic and simple to use. Obviously 9x is severely outdated and almost nobody uses this anymore. But if there was anything Windows 98 excelled at it was keeping resource usage down so that applications a person uses remained responsive, you could do this with Windows XP as well with the classic UI, which was also compatible with older desktop themes if you used them.
What I want out of an OS is something that works, is fast and is secure,
and Windows 11 for the most part does that for me which is why I use that now.
Oof, dilemma between Windows XP and Windows 10...
As for 95 and 98, I only had contact with them because of progressbar95.
But that's another story.
*Accidentally messes up the entire kernel*
I'm satisfied with Windows 10. Does what I need. I could do without the forced updates and telemetry, but c'est la vie. Windows 11 looks good, but it needs a few years under its belt before I make the plunge and change over my main workstations.
I hope Microsoft officially releases a Lite version of Windows 11 for older computers, because one of the criticisms that get brought up about it is the TPM 2.0 requirements, among other things, I get there are valid security concerns about it but the simple fact is, it is a nuisance for people to upgrade, what protects people online the most is the use of common sense as well as the installation of an anti malware application to block known threats, it's not perfect but it does work most of the time if you keep your software up to date.
Having tested Windows 11 on a modern PC like my one, I have had occasional software crashes but nothing serious, no BSOD's, they were along the lines of executables hanging from time to time, some software I use including some games I play, have never even crashed on me once on this machine, which points to the hardware being okay. Hardware faults, particularly when RAM is involved has an affect on any software that uses the defective part of the memory, if a CPU is defective, a PC would often not even post or boot up.
I doubt it.
Oops, forgot the quote, post is above.
Not even my hello world works :'C
(But powerpoint does xd)
Btw what does api stand for?
Windows XP and 7.
Honorable mentions:
Windows Vista: IMO the best looking Windows and runs great on SP2, but it lacks some things from Win7 and doesn't support newer software without extended kernel.
Windows 2000: Pretty much an older WinXP but with Classic theme. I used Windows Me in the mid to late 2000s so the design is quite nostalgic, sadly I didn't have any PC with Win2K back then.
Windows 8.1: When used with classic start menu it's what I'd say the last good Windows, predating Windows-as-a-Service. It runs great even on older hardware and even on HDD
Windows 10 LTSB/LTSC: What Windows 10 should have been, though I still prefer the old Technical Previews of Win10 from back when it was just like Windows 8.1 with a start menu.
Extra notes:
Windows 11 looks overall better than 10 but has too many issues and missing features. And in my opinion the start menu is worse than on Win10, I also hate the "Recommended" part but thankfully there's a hack to remove it.
I hope Windows 12 will be better but I doubt it. Microsoft will most likely going to continue trying to force the use of a Microsoft account and of course Edge and Bing. Forced updates, ads and other bloatware
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I only used XP when I was really young. I don't really remember using it very well, but I did use it on my own pc until I was 6ish? and then I got a 9800 gt and I think a core 2 quad. and when me and my uncle put my pc together he gave me a copy of windows 7 and I used it up until late 2017 and I genuinely miss it. Now I use Windows 10 on my desktop and different linux distros on my laptops
On the positive side of it Windows 11 did get native support for RAR archive, Windows XP had native support for Zip archives since it was released, so it's no surprise why the current version of Windows has this. It's probably not as convenient as third party applications as this article suggests, but for most people the ability to open encrypted archives won't be an issue. It would only be an issue for people who use encrypted archives in the first place, which are usually made by yourself, if you did make an encrypted archive then I'd assume you would've already had WinZip or some other third party app capable of it.
If people must use a third party application then I recommend 7Zip, or Winzip which is not a free archiving software if speed of decompression matters this much to people, but it depends on individual needs, for everybody else, it's bloatware and better ignored. I can't be too hard on Windows 11 because Microsoft did try with this one, and it does have plenty of useful features which fit the everyday OS user.
Windows 11 gets native RAR support, here is how it compares to WinRAR and other apps - Neowin