I have a Mac OS X version 10 on my 5 year old MacBook Air, an Android 4.44 KitKat on my OnePlus One phone which will upgrade to Android 5.0 Lollipop soon, and a KindleFire HD 7 that runs on something...
Yes, it's trash and I've made some questionable choices (CPU, PSU and possibly MB), no SSD either (because of several reasons that I'm NOT going into). Now you can laugh about this poor thing...
No, they are not. A GTX 780 Ti is still somewhat of a beast, a GTX 670 is wimpy.
The CPU is bad because of the following reasons:
1. It's from AMD, in theory I could stop the list here because that alone would be enough.
2. It's 4,3 years old!
3. Unsatisfying IPC performance.
4. Missing modern instructions sets (bad H.265 encoding performance beacause of that).
5. Planetside 2, one of my favorite games of the past years runs with like 20 fps (+- 5 fps), CPU limited of course.
6. Last, I have the CPU in my PC, I of all people know what it is capable of and what not. I am able to judge it and I personally view it as a bad CPU.
A 670 still maxes out most games. Also, just because it's AMD, doesn't mean it's bad. 4-3 years old doesn't matter. Not all old things are bad. I understand it has its flaws, such as CPU-limit, but it's in no means bad.
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• CPU: Intel Core i3 4150 @3.5GHz
• Mobo: ASRock H97M Anniversary
• Ram: Kingston Fury HyperX Black 8GB(2x4) @1866MHz
I don't know if you speak from experience or not, but a 670 does not max out games anymore, never. I can't play Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, The Witcher 3 (probably), Dragon Age: Inquisition, Assassins Creed Unity, GTA V (probably), Star Citizen, etc. on maximum settings, especially not on 1440p, I even highly doubt 1080p.
Well, it's not bad because it's from AMD per se but the only good things from AMD in the CPU section nowadays are their APU's and low end CPU's (including embedded), that's it. Intel is far superior in the medium-high performance CPU section. Also, age is crucial in the world of technology/IT, everything ages rapidly because of continuous development. While there's hasn't been that much improvement in terms of raw CPU performance since AMD isn't a real enemy for Intel anymore, it still matters, even when there are only small steps between generations, plus, the Phenom II's weren't that good to begin with. A lot of old things are bad, especially, like mentioned above, in the world of technology/IT. I highly doubt that my first CPU is going to stand up against anything these days. I don't want to force anyone to share my opinion but I know how my CPU performs first hand and it is not great, not at all.
I would expect more performance..Most likely it's your CPU holding you back. I do agree on the AMD opinion.
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• CPU: Intel Core i3 4150 @3.5GHz
• Mobo: ASRock H97M Anniversary
• Ram: Kingston Fury HyperX Black 8GB(2x4) @1866MHz
But really, a GTX 670 is by far not a "beast", it wasn't even one when it came out. I also seriously doubt you can max new-gen games such as Unity, FC4, Hardline, Watch_Dogs and Dying Light at 1080p. A single 670 is a bit more powerful than a stock 7870 (roughly the same as a reference 7970), and I can guarantee you that my old heavily OCed 7870 (7950 level) could have never maxed any of the more recent games at 1080p, let alone run them at 60fps on med-high settings. Accounting for thefew extra fps of the 670, still wouldn't be anywhere close.
Yea, I really can't justify it but I just keep collecting them lol. Doesn't help my electric bill any, ugh. Well I guess I do have one justification. My friends like playing LAN games, but they are too lazy to bring their own machines so it's nice having enough for multiple people. Of course, getting everyone together for gaming now that we're older and have to deal with children and such is a pain.
Yea, I really can't justify it but I just keep collecting them lol. Doesn't help my electric bill any, ugh. Well I guess I do have one justification. My friends like playing LAN games, but they are too lazy to bring their own machines so it's nice having enough for multiple people. Of course, getting everyone together for gaming now that we're older and have to deal with children and such is a pain.
Haha I feel you. Having a 650w computer on nearly 24/7 hurts. (My bill)
Are there tools to measure how much power your PSU is actually pulling? That is, software tools. I have a Kill-A-Watt, but it's a pain as I have to power the box down and climb under my desk and I'm quite lazy lol.
just post it, before this computer i had a garbage PC too.
I have a Mac OS X version 10 on my 5 year old MacBook Air, an Android 4.44 KitKat on my OnePlus One phone which will upgrade to Android 5.0 Lollipop soon, and a KindleFire HD 7 that runs on something...
Can't tell if you're joking....
If you're not, that PC isn't trash at all lol
Gaming PC Specs - Intel i5-2500K ~ ASUS P8P67M-Pro ~ Hyper 212+ ~ MSI GTX 970 OC ~ 8GB DDR3 Ram ~ 250GB Samsung EVO 850 ~ 500GB HardDrive ~ XFX 550w PSU ~ Fractal Core 1000 ~ Windows 8.1 ~ Samsung P2350 1080p Soon upgrading to GTX 1080/R9 490X + 1440p 144Hz
Macbook Pro 15" Retina - Intel i7 ~ 8GB Ram ~ Nvidia GT 650M ~ 256GB SSD ~ 2880 by 1800 Screen <3
It's not trash though. GTX 670's are still complete beasts. Not a bad CPU either..
• CPU: Intel Core i3 4150 @3.5GHz
• Mobo: ASRock H97M Anniversary
• Ram: Kingston Fury HyperX Black 8GB(2x4) @1866MHz
• GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 G1 Gaming 2GB GDDR5
• PSU: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified
• HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
• HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 160GB
• Case: Lian Li PC-50
• Monitor: Acer P221w 22" 1680x1050 60Hz
• Headset: Kingston Fury HyperX Clouds
• Mouse: Razer Deathadder 3.5G 3500DPI
• Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm Quickfire Rapid w/ Cherry MX Blues
A 670 still maxes out most games. Also, just because it's AMD, doesn't mean it's bad. 4-3 years old doesn't matter. Not all old things are bad. I understand it has its flaws, such as CPU-limit, but it's in no means bad.
• CPU: Intel Core i3 4150 @3.5GHz
• Mobo: ASRock H97M Anniversary
• Ram: Kingston Fury HyperX Black 8GB(2x4) @1866MHz
• GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 G1 Gaming 2GB GDDR5
• PSU: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified
• HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
• HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 160GB
• Case: Lian Li PC-50
• Monitor: Acer P221w 22" 1680x1050 60Hz
• Headset: Kingston Fury HyperX Clouds
• Mouse: Razer Deathadder 3.5G 3500DPI
• Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm Quickfire Rapid w/ Cherry MX Blues
I would expect more performance..Most likely it's your CPU holding you back. I do agree on the AMD opinion.
• CPU: Intel Core i3 4150 @3.5GHz
• Mobo: ASRock H97M Anniversary
• Ram: Kingston Fury HyperX Black 8GB(2x4) @1866MHz
• GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 G1 Gaming 2GB GDDR5
• PSU: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified
• HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
• HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 160GB
• Case: Lian Li PC-50
• Monitor: Acer P221w 22" 1680x1050 60Hz
• Headset: Kingston Fury HyperX Clouds
• Mouse: Razer Deathadder 3.5G 3500DPI
• Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm Quickfire Rapid w/ Cherry MX Blues
No on 1080p.
• CPU: Intel Core i3 4150 @3.5GHz
• Mobo: ASRock H97M Anniversary
• Ram: Kingston Fury HyperX Black 8GB(2x4) @1866MHz
• GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 G1 Gaming 2GB GDDR5
• PSU: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified
• HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
• HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 160GB
• Case: Lian Li PC-50
• Monitor: Acer P221w 22" 1680x1050 60Hz
• Headset: Kingston Fury HyperX Clouds
• Mouse: Razer Deathadder 3.5G 3500DPI
• Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm Quickfire Rapid w/ Cherry MX Blues
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But really, a GTX 670 is by far not a "beast", it wasn't even one when it came out. I also seriously doubt you can max new-gen games such as Unity, FC4, Hardline, Watch_Dogs and Dying Light at 1080p. A single 670 is a bit more powerful than a stock 7870 (roughly the same as a reference 7970), and I can guarantee you that my old heavily OCed 7870 (7950 level) could have never maxed any of the more recent games at 1080p, let alone run them at 60fps on med-high settings. Accounting for thefew extra fps of the 670, still wouldn't be anywhere close.
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Retired StaffOh, I was replying to scarymonkies, don't worry haha. Should have put a break between small and regular text. All gud.
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Curse PremiumHmm, this could take awhile heh.
Main workstation
HTPC:
Upstairs workstation:
Living room PC 1:
Living room PC 2:
Basically the same as PC 1, just in a desktop case configuration
Upstairs backup machine:
Upstairs guest bedroom PC:
Server 1: Infrastructure (AD/DNS/DHCP/DFS)
Server 2: Internet (Web/FTP)
Server 3: File storage
Server 4: Game host (Dedicated game serving)
Server 5: Firewall
I also have a 17" Macbook Pro that floats around wherever it is needed.
Just my computer
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Storage: Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card
Case: NZXT Phantom 630 Windowed Edition (Black) ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Full (64-bit)
Monitor: Acer G236HLBbd 60Hz 23.0" Monitor
Keyboard: Thermaltake CHALLENGER Illuminated Wired Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Gigabyte GM-KRYPTON Wired Laser Mouse
Speakers: Genius SP-S110 1W 2ch Speakers
It took ~1000$ to build but it was slowly upgraded,the first thing being the mobo ofc
Maybe he built the system with a 7770 a while ago and upgraded the CPU recently? I do agree with the PSU though lol.
• CPU: Intel Core i3 4150 @3.5GHz
• Mobo: ASRock H97M Anniversary
• Ram: Kingston Fury HyperX Black 8GB(2x4) @1866MHz
• GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 G1 Gaming 2GB GDDR5
• PSU: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified
• HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
• HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 160GB
• Case: Lian Li PC-50
• Monitor: Acer P221w 22" 1680x1050 60Hz
• Headset: Kingston Fury HyperX Clouds
• Mouse: Razer Deathadder 3.5G 3500DPI
• Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm Quickfire Rapid w/ Cherry MX Blues
wow 8 computers.... quite a bit lol
Gaming PC Specs - Intel i5-2500K ~ ASUS P8P67M-Pro ~ Hyper 212+ ~ MSI GTX 970 OC ~ 8GB DDR3 Ram ~ 250GB Samsung EVO 850 ~ 500GB HardDrive ~ XFX 550w PSU ~ Fractal Core 1000 ~ Windows 8.1 ~ Samsung P2350 1080p Soon upgrading to GTX 1080/R9 490X + 1440p 144Hz
Macbook Pro 15" Retina - Intel i7 ~ 8GB Ram ~ Nvidia GT 650M ~ 256GB SSD ~ 2880 by 1800 Screen <3
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Curse PremiumYea, I really can't justify it but I just keep collecting them lol. Doesn't help my electric bill any, ugh. Well I guess I do have one justification. My friends like playing LAN games, but they are too lazy to bring their own machines so it's nice having enough for multiple people. Of course, getting everyone together for gaming now that we're older and have to deal with children and such is a pain.
Haha I feel you. Having a 650w computer on nearly 24/7 hurts. (My bill)
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Haha you are totally right i first got the gpu and then upgraded the cpu.The psu needs to be upgraded too i know
(Also is there any reason i shouldnt use i5 with 7700,all the new games now need i3-i7 on recommended specs)
Maybe only at 100% stress for 2-10 hours
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Curse PremiumAre there tools to measure how much power your PSU is actually pulling? That is, software tools. I have a Kill-A-Watt, but it's a pain as I have to power the box down and climb under my desk and I'm quite lazy lol.
And I'm trying to win a GTX 980 in a giveaway when I have an i3 4150 lol. Hey, I'll take it! (If I can win.)
• CPU: Intel Core i3 4150 @3.5GHz
• Mobo: ASRock H97M Anniversary
• Ram: Kingston Fury HyperX Black 8GB(2x4) @1866MHz
• GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 G1 Gaming 2GB GDDR5
• PSU: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified
• HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
• HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 160GB
• Case: Lian Li PC-50
• Monitor: Acer P221w 22" 1680x1050 60Hz
• Headset: Kingston Fury HyperX Clouds
• Mouse: Razer Deathadder 3.5G 3500DPI
• Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm Quickfire Rapid w/ Cherry MX Blues
Don't have pictures, but I have a three computer setup.
Main Desktop
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Geforce 650Ti
8gb RAM
1TB internal HDD
3TB internal HDD
4TB External Drive
Work Laptop
Lenovo [email protected]
16gb RAM
1TB Internal
Backup Laptop
Asus i5
4gb RAM
500gb Internal
Intel integrated graphics
Don't have pictures, but I have a three computer setup.
And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat, that's all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red, a lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall, with no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall, and not a soul to hear.