I am trying to link up a nether portal in the overworld to one on top of the bedrock in the nether however they keep linking incorrectly. For ease of explanation lets call my main portal which is at my base, the BASE PORTAL and the other portal in question GOLD PORTAL.
First off it is probably best to explain that BASE PORTALS overworld coordinates are:
x:138 y:65 z:-169
And the portal this links to in the nether is:
x:17 y:81 z:21
The GOLD PORTAL in the overworld has been deliberately made over 128 blocks away from the BASE PORTAL as I understand this can cause interferance between portal linking.
The GOLD PORTAL coordinates in the overworld are:
x:17 y:63 z:-131
The portal on top of the bedrock in the nether is at:
x:2 y:128 z:-16
As previously mentioned the overworld portals are distanced more than 128 blocks away from eachother and the nether portals are more than 16 blocks apart. However when I jump through the GOLD PORTAL in the nether (the one on top of bedrock) it takes me back to BASE PORTAL in the overworld, not the GOLD PORTAL in the overworld. So bascially I have 2 nether portals in the overworld that take me to the same portal in the nether. I've looked at at a few videos on youtube but I'm still struggling to understand why this isn't working.
I've tried my best to explain this and sorry if its still hard to understand. Any help would be appreciated and I can provide some screenshots if needed.
Sorry if that's a silly question but that's the only thing I can think of that would cause that, I ran the calculations several times and I'm certain that the portal above the bedrock should link to it.
(Before 1.15 you wouldn't have been able to port to the portal above the bedrock but this is 1.15 and you are traveling from it not to it.)
Yes, the GOLD PORTAL in the overworld has been lit. So what I did was light that portal but not enter it, I then went through the BASE PORTAL in the overworld, and climbed to bedrock, enderpearled up and set up the GOLD PORTAL above the bedrock, at the correct coordinates which should have synched it up to the GOLD PORTAL in the overworld if that makes sense.
I have recalculated numerous times myself using the rule that they have to be 128 blocks away. The calucations seem correct so it should work :/
You could have just gone through the GOLD PORTAL to get to the BASE PORTAL in the Nether, the only "memory" that portals have is for travels in the same direction and only for 60 seconds. So if you go through a portal and break the portal at the other end then somebody can still follow you and port to the broken portal if they do it soon enough, otherwise the game will create a new portal or send them to some other lit portal nearby.
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I don't think the 128 blocks apart is a real thing.
There is a thing about the distance from an existing portal that a new portal has to be in order to automatically create a new portal in the other dimension rather than send you to the portal the original one sends you to. (Actually the distance the new portal has to be from the recalculated coordinates of a portal in the other dimension.)
That distance is about 16 blocks (in either the X or Z directions) for portals in the Nether but well over 1000 blocks for portals in the Overworld.
And you don't have to worry about that since you already have portals at the appropriate positions.
There is a bug where portals that haven't been used yet won't send mobs through and the mobs that have tried to go through will never be able to go through a portal but that wouldn't apply either.
What happens if you build a new portal over the Bedrock at, say, X=-2?
That should put it out of range of your Overworld BASE PORTAL so it would have to either send you to the GOLD PORTAL or create a new one, it would be interesting to see where it puts that.
Is the Nether's Y=128 above the Bedrock ceiling? Portals won't link up to ones where the base is above the bedrock ceiling specifically because Mojang wants that area to be inaccessible. If so, lower the portal and it should work.
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Hi Hex, thank you once again for getting back to me.
"That distance is about 16 blocks (in either the X or Z directions) for portals in the Nether but well over 1000 blocks for portals in the Overworld."
Does this mean that, although 16 blocks in the nether translates as 128 blocks in the overworld, it actually doesn't matter as you have to be significantly further away in the overworld?
Replying to your second coment about me building slightly further away, I have tried this and unfortunately the same happens. I get linked to the BASE PORTAL in the overworld. However, saying that, I destroyed all portals I had built in the overworld, relatively close to my BASE PORTAL (about 2000 blocks square) and then I went into the nether and created a portal above the bedrock. I then entered the portal, generating a new random portal in the overworld which was quite a distance from the BASE PORTAL. However, when jumping back through that portal, which should take me back to the roof of the nether, it takes me back to the nether BASE PORTAL.
I haven't experienced this specific problem before, however I will add this is the first time I've tried linking a portal which is above the nether. Which is leading me to be suspicious it has something to do with the Y coordinate? But I know that shouldn't really be a problem.
I have had portals in the past link up pretty close together, I am really confused why this isn't working this time around. Is it possible there is a bug in the game?
It might also be worth adding the reason I am doing this is to create a quick and simple gold farm above the nether. I understand 1.16 is coming out soon, and I will be resetting my nether to be able to access the new features in the update.
Maybe the new 1.16 update will resolve this problem I'm having?
What's confusing is I've never had this much of an issue linking portals, and I've been playing on and off since beta days..
Does this mean that, although 16 blocks in the nether translates as 128 blocks in the overworld, it actually doesn't matter as you have to be significantly further away in the overworld?
It has to do with the 1:8 ratio and the fact that when you enter a portal the game converts the coordinates and then looks for a destination portal within 128 blocks in the X and Z directions.
When going from the Nether 16 X 8 = 128 so going 16 blocks further away puts you outside the 128 block range.
When going from the Overworld 1024 / 8 = 128 so you need to go 1024 blocks away to get out of range.
I decided to actually test this by building portals at your coordinates.
For me, the above bedrock GOLD PORTAL in the Nether did indeed take me to the Overworld GOLD PORTAL
The Nether BASE PORTAL created a new portal in a cave at 139/28/179, did you type its coordinates correctly or was its Z supposed to be -21 instead of 21 ?
And all three Overworld portals took me to the Nether BASE PORTAL
I had limited my calculations to checking where the Nether GOLD PORTAL should send you.
Looking at all the connections I still have no idea why your Nether GOLD PORTAL doesn't send you to the Overworld GOLD PORTAL but your Overworld GOLD PORTAL has no chance of sending you to the Nether GOLD PORTAL since its perfect match in the Nether is 2/63/16 which is 65 blocks below the Nether GOLD PORTAL but only 20 blocks or so away from the Nether BASE PORTAL.
The easiest way to fix that would be to raise the Overworld GOLD PORTAL up 30-40 blocks and use a water elevator or something to get up and down.
Moving it farther away from the BASE PORTAL horizontally would probably be less convenient since it would have to be around 300 blocks further away due to the division by 8.
I am trying to link up a nether portal in the overworld to one on top of the bedrock in the nether however they keep linking incorrectly. For ease of explanation lets call my main portal which is at my base, the BASE PORTAL and the other portal in question GOLD PORTAL.
First off it is probably best to explain that BASE PORTALS overworld coordinates are:
x:138 y:65 z:-169
And the portal this links to in the nether is:
x:17 y:81 z:21
The GOLD PORTAL in the overworld has been deliberately made over 128 blocks away from the BASE PORTAL as I understand this can cause interferance between portal linking.
The GOLD PORTAL coordinates in the overworld are:
x:17 y:63 z:-131
The portal on top of the bedrock in the nether is at:
x:2 y:128 z:-16
As previously mentioned the overworld portals are distanced more than 128 blocks away from eachother and the nether portals are more than 16 blocks apart. However when I jump through the GOLD PORTAL in the nether (the one on top of bedrock) it takes me back to BASE PORTAL in the overworld, not the GOLD PORTAL in the overworld. So bascially I have 2 nether portals in the overworld that take me to the same portal in the nether. I've looked at at a few videos on youtube but I'm still struggling to understand why this isn't working.
I've tried my best to explain this and sorry if its still hard to understand. Any help would be appreciated and I can provide some screenshots if needed.
That does seem odd.
The Overworld GOLD PORTAL is lit isn't it?
Sorry if that's a silly question but that's the only thing I can think of that would cause that, I ran the calculations several times and I'm certain that the portal above the bedrock should link to it.
(Before 1.15 you wouldn't have been able to port to the portal above the bedrock but this is 1.15 and you are traveling from it not to it.)
Just testing.
Thank you Hex for your input.
Yes, the GOLD PORTAL in the overworld has been lit. So what I did was light that portal but not enter it, I then went through the BASE PORTAL in the overworld, and climbed to bedrock, enderpearled up and set up the GOLD PORTAL above the bedrock, at the correct coordinates which should have synched it up to the GOLD PORTAL in the overworld if that makes sense.
I have recalculated numerous times myself using the rule that they have to be 128 blocks away. The calucations seem correct so it should work :/
That should have worked.
You could have just gone through the GOLD PORTAL to get to the BASE PORTAL in the Nether, the only "memory" that portals have is for travels in the same direction and only for 60 seconds. So if you go through a portal and break the portal at the other end then somebody can still follow you and port to the broken portal if they do it soon enough, otherwise the game will create a new portal or send them to some other lit portal nearby.
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I don't think the 128 blocks apart is a real thing.
There is a thing about the distance from an existing portal that a new portal has to be in order to automatically create a new portal in the other dimension rather than send you to the portal the original one sends you to. (Actually the distance the new portal has to be from the recalculated coordinates of a portal in the other dimension.)
That distance is about 16 blocks (in either the X or Z directions) for portals in the Nether but well over 1000 blocks for portals in the Overworld.
And you don't have to worry about that since you already have portals at the appropriate positions.
There is a bug where portals that haven't been used yet won't send mobs through and the mobs that have tried to go through will never be able to go through a portal but that wouldn't apply either.
Just testing.
What happens if you build a new portal over the Bedrock at, say, X=-2?
That should put it out of range of your Overworld BASE PORTAL so it would have to either send you to the GOLD PORTAL or create a new one, it would be interesting to see where it puts that.
Just testing.
Is the Nether's Y=128 above the Bedrock ceiling? Portals won't link up to ones where the base is above the bedrock ceiling specifically because Mojang wants that area to be inaccessible. If so, lower the portal and it should work.
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That was changed in 1.15
Besides SamMac97 is having trouble going from a portal above the Nether ceiling to the Overworld and that has always worked as far as I know.
And it's working, it just goes to the wrong portal in the Overworld.
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(I just checked the Wiki, apparently before 1.3.1 portals in the Nether wouldn't take you above Y=128 in the Overworld)
Just testing.
Hi Hex, thank you once again for getting back to me.
"That distance is about 16 blocks (in either the X or Z directions) for portals in the Nether but well over 1000 blocks for portals in the Overworld."
Does this mean that, although 16 blocks in the nether translates as 128 blocks in the overworld, it actually doesn't matter as you have to be significantly further away in the overworld?
Replying to your second coment about me building slightly further away, I have tried this and unfortunately the same happens. I get linked to the BASE PORTAL in the overworld. However, saying that, I destroyed all portals I had built in the overworld, relatively close to my BASE PORTAL (about 2000 blocks square) and then I went into the nether and created a portal above the bedrock. I then entered the portal, generating a new random portal in the overworld which was quite a distance from the BASE PORTAL. However, when jumping back through that portal, which should take me back to the roof of the nether, it takes me back to the nether BASE PORTAL.
I haven't experienced this specific problem before, however I will add this is the first time I've tried linking a portal which is above the nether. Which is leading me to be suspicious it has something to do with the Y coordinate? But I know that shouldn't really be a problem.
I have had portals in the past link up pretty close together, I am really confused why this isn't working this time around. Is it possible there is a bug in the game?
It might also be worth adding the reason I am doing this is to create a quick and simple gold farm above the nether. I understand 1.16 is coming out soon, and I will be resetting my nether to be able to access the new features in the update.
Maybe the new 1.16 update will resolve this problem I'm having?
What's confusing is I've never had this much of an issue linking portals, and I've been playing on and off since beta days..
It has to do with the 1:8 ratio and the fact that when you enter a portal the game converts the coordinates and then looks for a destination portal within 128 blocks in the X and Z directions.
When going from the Nether 16 X 8 = 128 so going 16 blocks further away puts you outside the 128 block range.
When going from the Overworld 1024 / 8 = 128 so you need to go 1024 blocks away to get out of range.
Just testing.
I decided to actually test this by building portals at your coordinates.
For me, the above bedrock GOLD PORTAL in the Nether did indeed take me to the Overworld GOLD PORTAL
The Nether BASE PORTAL created a new portal in a cave at 139/28/179, did you type its coordinates correctly or was its Z supposed to be -21 instead of 21 ?
And all three Overworld portals took me to the Nether BASE PORTAL
I had limited my calculations to checking where the Nether GOLD PORTAL should send you.
Looking at all the connections I still have no idea why your Nether GOLD PORTAL doesn't send you to the Overworld GOLD PORTAL but your Overworld GOLD PORTAL has no chance of sending you to the Nether GOLD PORTAL since its perfect match in the Nether is 2/63/16 which is 65 blocks below the Nether GOLD PORTAL but only 20 blocks or so away from the Nether BASE PORTAL.
The easiest way to fix that would be to raise the Overworld GOLD PORTAL up 30-40 blocks and use a water elevator or something to get up and down.
Moving it farther away from the BASE PORTAL horizontally would probably be less convenient since it would have to be around 300 blocks further away due to the division by 8.
Just testing.
The base portal Z coords in the nether need to be negative so they match up to the one in the overworld.