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Then you should go underground every once in a while.
what know..... Dude im underground all the time. IM never this lucky it took me a long time to find an abandoned mineshaft and very long to find diamonds. The way you say it its like every five feet there is a load of Diamonds.

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IM never this lucky it took me a long time to find an abandoned mineshaft and very long to find diamonds. The way you say it its like every five feet there is a load of Diamonds.

Somewhat irrelevant. The main (or one of the main) points in this thread is that there are no more, small, medium, tiny, or NOT SEEMINGLY INFINITE caves anymore. I love caves that go on and on, but it comes to a point where it gets repetitive, and I'd like more of a challenge, to explore FOR caves and simply not explore them all the time. Now once you find a cave, it's interconnected with another cave entrance, which is connected to 5 other cave entrances, which is connected to a ravine, which is connected to an etcetera.

I remember when Mojang decided to redo caves so that they'd be more extensive and there would be less "dead ends". Back then it was not as if caves were uncommon. And it's not like I hate caving or anything, but I think that with the generation being the way it is there is a possibility of cave systems that are ridiculously massive.

Now, whenever I dig, I can't go 20 blocks without running into something and the caves seem to go on and on forever, connecting to other caves that connect to mineshafts that connect to ravines that branch off into other ravines and caves. It usually takes me many real life days just to light everything up since I like to explore every part of a cave and strip it of its resources before doing something else.

I know the game is called Minecraft and a large part of the game is collecting resources, but sometimes I'd like to do something else because I can't not explore a cave I've found XD

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I remember when Mojang decided to redo caves so that they'd be more extensive and there would be less "dead ends". Back then it was not as if caves were uncommon. And it's not like I hate caving or anything, but I think that with the generation being the way it is there is a possibility of cave systems that are ridiculously massive.

Now, whenever I dig, I can't go 20 blocks without running into something and the caves seem to go on and on forever, connecting to other caves that connect to mineshafts that connect to ravines that branch off into other ravines and caves. It usually takes me many real life days just to light everything up since I like to explore every part of a cave and strip it of its resources before doing something else.

I know the game is called Minecraft and a large part of the game is collecting resources, but sometimes I'd like to do something else because I can't not explore a cave I've found XD

I'm not sure where people got the idea that caves ended too often. There were sure a hell of a lot of seemingly infinite cave systems such as ... hmm ... 404?!?!!?!?

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I'm not sure where people got the idea that caves ended too often. There were sure a hell of a lot of seemingly infinite cave systems such as ... hmm ... 404?!?!!?!?

Has anyone made any image of a 1.7.3 world similar to the images we have seen here from 1.3? I still have my doubts that the number of caves has changed. The number of underground features have increased with ravines and mine shafts, but I don't think the number of caves has increased.

my world has just too many caves...one leads to another.Had to use a lot of coal!

If I could control my terrain generation I'd cut back on the number of mines and ravines by at least 50%. Natural caves I'd drop by about 25% and all other areas I'd cut about 20% in surface enterences except for deserts. In deserts I never see cave openings since they became swampy beaches basically so I'd cut the amount of natural surface water by 95% and bump up the surface cave enterence frequency.

Though I like exploring caves, I DO miss the caves from pre 1.8 where if you found somthing of the recent sizes you were lucky. this argument also has to do with the end of using leather armor

I suggest you go above ground a pick some flowers for a break.

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I have never had to use leather, because within about 10 minutes of a game, I'll have a tonne of iron. I don't even use wooden or stone tools (forgetting the picks just to get into a cave) anymore. :L

I remember how finding seeds with big caves or ravines used to be an awesome thing - but I don't need to look for a nice seed anymore - because every single map is pretty much the same.

Fixed it for you.

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Man you got friggin lucky XD that never happens to me...

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I was using noclip and found 4 dungeons and diamond ore! I guess part of the problem is the ravines. They should be rare ,and caves should be rare too but not too rare. The biggest problem is that they are coded so that they connect with other caves to make bigger ones.

What is noclip?

Convert the cave into a neverending underground bunker/mansion.

That would be awesome.

Can I have that seed?

I like the cave networks, but they do get a little insane sometimes -- I've gotten at least 300, maybe 400, blocks away from my entry point, entirely underground. (OK, the stairway I dug up helped some with that, but still.)

For a lot of biomes, there really is more interesting stuff belowground than above, but I'm not sure the way to fix that is to nerf the underground. What I do find annoying is trying to sink a mine for, say gold, and finding that levels 19-25 are mostly cavern.

For cavers this is good. For people who dont cave much its a problem. If you dont like it much then use mods or seeds that get rid of the caves so you can make it harder. Or even set difficulty up a notch to make it harder and more challenging to explore.

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For cavers this is good. For people who dont cave much its a problem. If you dont like it much then use mods or seeds that get rid of the caves so you can make it harder. Or even set difficulty up a notch to make it harder and more challenging to explore.

Mods = players shouldn't have to fix a problem the developers made

Seeds = all seeds are the same, thus nearly EVERY cave in EVERY world is seemingly infinite

Difficulty = what?

The problem, including its solution, is simple. I don't see how people can disagree with this.

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This game is based around cave exploration. Nerfing caves is like nerfing the game itself.

As you may have noticed on the front page, Notch originally nick-named it "Cave Game".

but its called "mine-craft" sure you "mine" materials from caves, but nobody and I truly mean nobody ever makes those really epic complex mines anymore. you cannot and you don't need to and its sad