The sky trap isn't exactly correct in its layout. Mobs spawn in a 288 diameter circle around you, not a 150x150 square with you at the centre.
You don't need a massive space to spawn mobs, only a dark room with every other dark place lit up correctly.
Actually, Mobs Spawn 144 blocks away in each direction, so, it is correct, you don't have to make the frame, I didn't just make sure you're in the middle of the ocean.
But it kiershar's spawning logic is incorrect, his says that they spawn a maximum of 75 blocks away from you horizontally. Kiershar's box is 150x150, the actual box would be around 288x288
Wait, let me go check out the mob spawning physics thread.
Saddles are actually quite common. I've found dungeon chests with as many as 3 saddles in them. Given that the majority of dungeons have 2 chests, and almost all have at least 1 . . . this isn't hard. I'd say for every 10 dungeons I find, I walk with around 20 saddles. And I've found A LOT of dungeons. I no longer pick them up, as I have a double chest full, and even a single chest full for spares in another location.
Reading this thread I realized I've been kind of doing a similar thing without an actual goal. I've built a massive storage area with tons of chests.
My question for you is how do you organize items in order to find the correct chest easily?
Its becoming somewhat MORE streamlined, but in my original design, I had 2 floors, each with 3 walls for storage. In the upper floor, the left wall had food related items and mob drops, the right wall had natural blocks and ores, plus some plants, while the center wall had manmade blocks, items, and tools. The bottom floor was a mass storage for bulk items, namely, cobblestone, sand, glass, dirt, wood.
Its become a bit more clean now; the food mob/drop wall is the same, but the natural blocks wall has become more consistant, and no longer includes tree related plants (saplings, which are stored with wood) and has expanded to include things like snowballs. The manmade items wall has been revised, with the tools/items being taken out, so its basically minecarts, boats, pistons, ladders . . . basically, craftable utility/decoration items. The tools and weapons have been moved to an outfitting hall I recently installed, though in my next rendition of my storage facility come 1.8, they will be reincorporated into the main structure, as well as new items like stone brick.
A few items do not, and are unlikely to soon have a chest. These are ultra-rare items which I keep in a highly secure vault on the top floor of my storage room. Inside are all my diamonds, pumpkins, cocoa beans, 1 of every record (soon to be all of the new records, when they come out), some blocks of gold, iron, lapis, diamond, and glowstone, some obsidian, and TNT. Oh, and my golden apple and an 8 stack of cookies. The vault is my pride and joy; I hope for it to one day be full, but I don't know what I would put in an ideal 54 slots for maximum versatility.
Certainly all 15 records, for starters. A single stack of more of all the major ores and glowstone, plus obsidian. Basically, everything listed above. I think storing a stack of redstone repeaters is a good investment, as its the equivalent investment of 3x that amount of redstone. No other single item is so incredibly rare/valuable in large quantities, save perhaps brick. I will ponder this and make another post in the next day or so, detailing what I might fill a single double chest with that are my most valued possesions.
The only order I have in my storage is that one panel (6 double chests) all have cobblestone in. Everything else I just remember.
In many ways, mine is like this as well. While I have some order, its mostly memorized because I put it there. Sure, I put food with food, ores with ores, and nether items with nether items, but their locations are mostly arbitrary. Putting it there yourself makes it much easier to remember.
I have been working on expanding my storage room. I have discovered i really really do not like running from floor to floor trying to find things. So I have my Collectors Floor (trying to think of a spiffier name for it) and I have my overflow if you will. I also have found that I abhor lava. I seem to have pool after pool after pool of it. I could build a huge castle out of the obsidian I can make from all that lava.
I need to keep my eyes open more...yesterday I died twice from getting in a hurry and not looking where I was going...and yes I have a water bucket with me. Just got too startled after falling in to a one square pool of lava.
Cocoa beans could be collected for a single chest if you really combed through your landscape
I don't think this is true for any reasonably sized world. Admittedly, a large number of chunks in my world are pre-cocoa beans, but by looking at cartographer, I'd say I have 100-200 dungeons to explore in new areas, in a 100 meg world. Cocoa beans CAN be common, but are not guaranteed. I'd say I find them every other dungeon, though sometimes in quantities of as much as 3 a chest. Assuming I got 2 per dungeon, in 300 dungeons, thats still only around 600; not enough to fill half a single chest.
I have yet to even get a stack of them. Cookies wouldn't be so hard; since they only stack to 8, you literally only need 54 cocoa beans. I don't have that many yet, but I'm close.
@Vault Dweller...I looked at what I wrote and then just giggled a lot! It does sound like my Storage area is vicious! However I assure you it is not. Just my caves or when i go spelunking...*sigh* have lake after lake of lava. I do so wish that I had figured out a few things before hand.
I have mentioned this before...I have a 270+ mg game right now on this world and I keep going out to find clay. I have so little. It is still rare in my realm. I keep on searching...hoping to find more...
I have looked and read a lot of posts regarding clay. Does anyone know if the following is true.
Can it be found in the desert at all?
Can it be found by digging down in the sand at a coastline?
I have looked and read a lot of posts regarding clay. Does anyone know if the following is true.
Can it be found in the desert at all?
Can it be found by digging down in the sand at a coastline?
Yes to both of your questions.
From the wiki:
"Despite common belief, clay's spawning is not tied to water and sand, but just to sand, and can spawn in the middle of deserts. It is usually exposed, but is sometimes found under sand or water."
Good luck finding some :smile.gif:
Extra note: If the chunks you are searching for clay in are from Beta 1.6.5 or 1.6.6, you have very little chance of finding any (due to a bug which meant clay was rarely generated). If this is the case, I would go searching farther out in your world in order to generate some new chunks (if your Minecraft is updated to 1.7, 1.7_01, 1.7.2 or 1.7.3).
Darkjedi that is very helpful:) I bought the game in ver 1.4 something but I believe that this world was created in ver 1.6. As I seem to find all the sandy/desert biomes I could need and then some I will go farther out and see what gets generated.
Thank you!
Well after a couple of runs in a new direction i found some clay. three spts total and I now have 9 stacks of clay (not the blocks) and 49 in a 10th one. So I have added to my Collection!~
I'm glad you found some clay Jagualar :tongue.gif:, I forgot to mention, if you want to find some clay in the 1.6.5 or 1.6.6 chunks you will need to go to points where the x and y co-ordinates (shown near the top of your screen when pressing F3) are the same. I wouldn't recommend this though as I spent more than an hour searching for clay in one of my old worlds with 1.6.6 chunks and found not even a single block.
And Vault, I have found clay away from the coastline occasionally, but I think it is harder to find as more blocks are exposed at the coast. As for clay generating below the surface, I have never seen it myself, but I know of others who have. The wiki does say that clay spawning below ground, even just a couple of blocks below the surface, is very rare.
Alright! Finished my Kiershar's Sky Trap. I remember seeing so many posts about this thing being unbuildable in a legit world! It was a hassle, I had to modify it a lot, and it took about 16k stone . . . which was pretty painful to invest, but its working well and only took a day or two. I'm doing a functionality test right now, and the results look VERY promising. I haven't even dug a mine out beneath it yet, though I plan to. When its done, I will post its per-hour rates, even though I'm really only using it for mass gunpowder.
RESULTS:
Pretty nice, actually, for a sky trap built in an area not 100% lit, or dug out underneath at ALL. Total drops were 1516/per hour, with 330 gunpowder. Thats 41 hours to get the amount of gunpowder I need for TNT, but its SOMETHING . . . its at least 7 or 8 times faster than my old grinder, and it doesn't stop producing after 20 minutes, so I can actually leave it AFK. Even better, it makes string at about 50% the rate of the other 4 items, so I can contribute that towards a dispenser collection, without needing to fix my spider dungeon. I might even be able to make some contributions towards wool!
how do you plan on getting 53 more golden apples? that would take alot of dungeons...
It seemed reasonable at first, but its becoming apparent that its not. I am likely going to remove it from my list. I am also seriously considering taking lapis blocks off. Its much, much more common than gold and diamond, but not nearly as common as iron, even with the cluster drops. I have enough lapis right now to fill an entire double chest, then about 6 more stacks; thats just over 11% done. To put this into perspective; I am 20% done a chest of DIAMONDS. I feel like a diamond double chest is the gold standard. Anything thats twice as hard as that is not reasonable . . .
I may reconsider "going" for these once I finish the main set, but really, I have no hope of finishing anything comprehensive if I set my sights too high. Some people may call it cheating, as I eliminate all the hard ones . . . but I'm really not. Many of these are only hard in a wide scope; for instance, getting the 16 different wool colors individually isn't hard, but is different when you consider all of them together. Using nearly a double chest of lapis for dyes, plus going for a full lapis and lapis block double chest, is extreme. I want hard, not stupid hard.
And Vault, I have found clay away from the coastline occasionally, but I think it is harder to find as more blocks are exposed at the coast. As for clay generating below the surface, I have never seen it myself, but I know of others who have. The wiki does say that clay spawning below ground, even just a couple of blocks below the surface, is very rare.
I can personally confirm clay being completely underground. I found it twice in my expedition, actually. Very obnoxious.
Alright! Finished my Kiershar's Sky Trap. I remember seeing so many posts about this thing being unbuildable in a legit world! It was a hassle, I had to modify it a lot, and it took about 16k stone . . . which was pretty painful to invest, but its working well and only took a day or two. I'm doing a functionality test right now, and the results look VERY promising. I haven't even dug a mine out beneath it yet, though I plan to. When its done, I will post its per-hour rates, even though I'm really only using it for mass gunpowder.
RESULTS:
Pretty nice, actually, for a sky trap built in an area not 100% lit, or dug out underneath at ALL. Total drops were 1516/per hour, with 330 gunpowder. Thats 41 hours to get the amount of gunpowder I need for TNT, but its SOMETHING . . . its at least 7 or 8 times faster than my old grinder, and it doesn't stop producing after 20 minutes, so I can actually leave it AFK. Even better, it makes string at about 50% the rate of the other 4 items, so I can contribute that towards a dispenser collection, without needing to fix my spider dungeon. I might even be able to make some contributions towards wool!
It seemed reasonable at first, but its becoming apparent that its not. I am likely going to remove it from my list. I am also seriously considering taking lapis blocks off. Its much, much more common than gold and diamond, but not nearly as common as iron, even with the cluster drops. I have enough lapis right now to fill an entire double chest, then about 6 more stacks; thats just over 11% done. To put this into perspective; I am 20% done a chest of DIAMONDS. I feel like a diamond double chest is the gold standard. Anything thats twice as hard as that is not reasonable . . .
I may reconsider "going" for these once I finish the main set, but really, I have no hope of finishing anything comprehensive if I set my sights too high. Some people may call it cheating, as I eliminate all the hard ones . . . but I'm really not. Many of these are only hard in a wide scope; for instance, getting the 16 different wool colors individually isn't hard, but is different when you consider all of them together. Using nearly a double chest of lapis for dyes, plus going for a full lapis and lapis block double chest, is extreme. I want hard, not stupid hard.
I can personally confirm clay being completely underground. I found it twice in my expedition, actually. Very obnoxious.
Sorry, haven't been on teh forums lately, and that's what I was saying about the mob trap. I didn't even make a frame and I got about 1500 per hour (In an ocean) It's even quicker if you don't complete the second floor, and just fill a "+" sign of cobble.
Also, you're second paragraph doesn't make sense, so you're taking lapis and what else off the list?
Wait, let me go check out the mob spawning physics thread.
So Mr. Kiershar is correct.
My question for you is how do you organize items in order to find the correct chest easily?
I believe each of his floors are certain categories.
Saddles are actually quite common. I've found dungeon chests with as many as 3 saddles in them. Given that the majority of dungeons have 2 chests, and almost all have at least 1 . . . this isn't hard. I'd say for every 10 dungeons I find, I walk with around 20 saddles. And I've found A LOT of dungeons. I no longer pick them up, as I have a double chest full, and even a single chest full for spares in another location.
Its becoming somewhat MORE streamlined, but in my original design, I had 2 floors, each with 3 walls for storage. In the upper floor, the left wall had food related items and mob drops, the right wall had natural blocks and ores, plus some plants, while the center wall had manmade blocks, items, and tools. The bottom floor was a mass storage for bulk items, namely, cobblestone, sand, glass, dirt, wood.
Its become a bit more clean now; the food mob/drop wall is the same, but the natural blocks wall has become more consistant, and no longer includes tree related plants (saplings, which are stored with wood) and has expanded to include things like snowballs. The manmade items wall has been revised, with the tools/items being taken out, so its basically minecarts, boats, pistons, ladders . . . basically, craftable utility/decoration items. The tools and weapons have been moved to an outfitting hall I recently installed, though in my next rendition of my storage facility come 1.8, they will be reincorporated into the main structure, as well as new items like stone brick.
A few items do not, and are unlikely to soon have a chest. These are ultra-rare items which I keep in a highly secure vault on the top floor of my storage room. Inside are all my diamonds, pumpkins, cocoa beans, 1 of every record (soon to be all of the new records, when they come out), some blocks of gold, iron, lapis, diamond, and glowstone, some obsidian, and TNT. Oh, and my golden apple and an 8 stack of cookies. The vault is my pride and joy; I hope for it to one day be full, but I don't know what I would put in an ideal 54 slots for maximum versatility.
Certainly all 15 records, for starters. A single stack of more of all the major ores and glowstone, plus obsidian. Basically, everything listed above. I think storing a stack of redstone repeaters is a good investment, as its the equivalent investment of 3x that amount of redstone. No other single item is so incredibly rare/valuable in large quantities, save perhaps brick. I will ponder this and make another post in the next day or so, detailing what I might fill a single double chest with that are my most valued possesions.
In many ways, mine is like this as well. While I have some order, its mostly memorized because I put it there. Sure, I put food with food, ores with ores, and nether items with nether items, but their locations are mostly arbitrary. Putting it there yourself makes it much easier to remember.
I need to keep my eyes open more...yesterday I died twice from getting in a hurry and not looking where I was going...and yes I have a water bucket with me. Just got too startled after falling in to a one square pool of lava.
I hate the lava!!!
I don't think this is true for any reasonably sized world. Admittedly, a large number of chunks in my world are pre-cocoa beans, but by looking at cartographer, I'd say I have 100-200 dungeons to explore in new areas, in a 100 meg world. Cocoa beans CAN be common, but are not guaranteed. I'd say I find them every other dungeon, though sometimes in quantities of as much as 3 a chest. Assuming I got 2 per dungeon, in 300 dungeons, thats still only around 600; not enough to fill half a single chest.
I have yet to even get a stack of them. Cookies wouldn't be so hard; since they only stack to 8, you literally only need 54 cocoa beans. I don't have that many yet, but I'm close.
I have mentioned this before...I have a 270+ mg game right now on this world and I keep going out to find clay. I have so little. It is still rare in my realm. I keep on searching...hoping to find more...
as well as more dungeons...I love finding them!
Can it be found in the desert at all?
Can it be found by digging down in the sand at a coastline?
Yes to both of your questions.
From the wiki:
"Despite common belief, clay's spawning is not tied to water and sand, but just to sand, and can spawn in the middle of deserts. It is usually exposed, but is sometimes found under sand or water."
Good luck finding some :smile.gif:
Extra note: If the chunks you are searching for clay in are from Beta 1.6.5 or 1.6.6, you have very little chance of finding any (due to a bug which meant clay was rarely generated). If this is the case, I would go searching farther out in your world in order to generate some new chunks (if your Minecraft is updated to 1.7, 1.7_01, 1.7.2 or 1.7.3).
Thank you!
Yay me!
And Vault, I have found clay away from the coastline occasionally, but I think it is harder to find as more blocks are exposed at the coast. As for clay generating below the surface, I have never seen it myself, but I know of others who have. The wiki does say that clay spawning below ground, even just a couple of blocks below the surface, is very rare.
RESULTS:
Pretty nice, actually, for a sky trap built in an area not 100% lit, or dug out underneath at ALL. Total drops were 1516/per hour, with 330 gunpowder. Thats 41 hours to get the amount of gunpowder I need for TNT, but its SOMETHING . . . its at least 7 or 8 times faster than my old grinder, and it doesn't stop producing after 20 minutes, so I can actually leave it AFK. Even better, it makes string at about 50% the rate of the other 4 items, so I can contribute that towards a dispenser collection, without needing to fix my spider dungeon. I might even be able to make some contributions towards wool!
It seemed reasonable at first, but its becoming apparent that its not. I am likely going to remove it from my list. I am also seriously considering taking lapis blocks off. Its much, much more common than gold and diamond, but not nearly as common as iron, even with the cluster drops. I have enough lapis right now to fill an entire double chest, then about 6 more stacks; thats just over 11% done. To put this into perspective; I am 20% done a chest of DIAMONDS. I feel like a diamond double chest is the gold standard. Anything thats twice as hard as that is not reasonable . . .
I may reconsider "going" for these once I finish the main set, but really, I have no hope of finishing anything comprehensive if I set my sights too high. Some people may call it cheating, as I eliminate all the hard ones . . . but I'm really not. Many of these are only hard in a wide scope; for instance, getting the 16 different wool colors individually isn't hard, but is different when you consider all of them together. Using nearly a double chest of lapis for dyes, plus going for a full lapis and lapis block double chest, is extreme. I want hard, not stupid hard.
I can personally confirm clay being completely underground. I found it twice in my expedition, actually. Very obnoxious.
Sorry, haven't been on teh forums lately, and that's what I was saying about the mob trap. I didn't even make a frame and I got about 1500 per hour (In an ocean) It's even quicker if you don't complete the second floor, and just fill a "+" sign of cobble.
Also, you're second paragraph doesn't make sense, so you're taking lapis and what else off the list?