I primary use charcoal if coal is in short supply... usually its a first/second day thing. Usually burn a few pieces a lumber to get the first 2 bits of coal, and then if trees are common, burn a stack of 32 or so charcoal.
If I plan to stay on the surface primarily, I only use charcoal. But not sure why people don't make huge stacks of charcoal as well. :\
As mentioned above, the only time you really need enough of either is when you're smelting smooth stone and then it is really handy.
I recently constructed a rather large castle out of smoothstone half-blocks and what I found myself doing is using the coal that I got from mining for smelting logs so I could smelt the smoothstone blocks.
I use charcoal. It's easier to obtain, especially if you're not a big mining freak, which I am not. When I do mine I generally ignore coal since I'm more interested in iron and diamond for tools/armor.
In terms of survival, charcoal is best used for your first nights so you don't have to go freaking out about finding coal before sundown. Once you start mining coal is more practical.
If you're not playing legit, coal and charcoal, as well as smelting, are all pretty much useless anyways. Just hack in torches and pre-smelted items.
I am loyal to coal. Coal has always been there for me. Charcoal is like the new kid that moves in across the street and has all the cool toys, and coal is your old friends with whom you have just as much fun with excluding the fancy crap.
i usually convert my Cobble to Smoothstone so i need a shitload of (char-)coal
yeah, this is sort of what i mean- if you're in a situation where you need a few stacks of the stuff, it's easier to go cut down trees for a bit then to go diving around for stacks of coal, not to mention much faster
*Mines a tree, makes, workbench, makes pick*
*Mines another tree and some stone*
*Now has cobblestone and wood*
*Makes furnaces, puts half of the wood into the fuel slot other into the smelting slot*
*Has 3 charcoal*
*Mines 24 blocks of wood, smelts in furnace with coal*
*Has 32 charcoal*
-Coal will EVENTUALLY run out
-Can't mine coal with hands
+Trees are much easier to find than coal
+Same amount of fuel/item ratio
+Can mine wood with hands
+Endless supply of trees (saplings) = endless supply of wood = endless supply of charcoal = endless supply of fuel
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i think most people use coal because like me their too impatient and dont like chopping down trees constantly since its a bit dull to shop down about 10-12 trees just for a full stack of coal.plus when mining you often come across a ton of coal so eventually charcoal is not needed since you have so much coal found accidently from mining for iron or dimound
Since I switched to a new seed that has massive forests, I've been producing lots of charcoal. I'm clearing out the forests to build and since I'm spending most of my time on the surface to do this, I end up with lots of wood and saplings. So the wood goes into a furnace built specially for this task and the saplings are fuel. When I go mining, I'll need the extra charcoal to convert the cobble back into smooth stone.
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I happen to be using a TON of charcoal at the moment on the smp server i play on. Its a legit server and im doing very large build using 90% stone slabs and glass. Easy to get free cobble from other players, and I have a desert im taking out for the sand.
The hard part is the coal to smelt all the glass and stone!!! How ever after building an extremely over sized tree farm (close to 24 stacks of wood per harvest!). Charcoal is the only way to go for me now, it is simply amazing the amount of time saved using it vs coal.
I've became a super fan of charcoal when mass smelting is needed, set up a tree farm and it makes life so much easier!
However in my ssp world I can honestly say I have never a once made charcoal :dry.gif: . Perhaps its due to the age of map and fact I'm pretty well set on all of the current resources. This I think is why many of us don't use it, were so used to coal being simple and abundant we have never noticed the value of charcoal for large smelting jobs.
On topic, getting wood is more dangerous then coal and can only be done during day time other then that when you hit deeper depths it is really easy to find coal. Sometimes I even find myself leaving it where it is without even looking back.
I have an over-world farm that I can mine tree at during the night, it has almost gotten me killed a few times though...
You can chop down trees at night, it's just risky.
I never really use charcoal but i dont know why its a crap load easier to get and you get 8X more payoff :biggrin.gif:
How do you gt 8x more payoff? If you were just burning logs, then yes, it is better to turn it to charcoal first.
planks:15s each, 60 seconds per log
And once you factor in the fuel cost to make the charcoal, it is only 70s per log.
This means that charcoal is only marginally more effective in a furnace than simply making planks. Nothing in here makes charcoal 8x more effective. In fact, coal is somewhat more effective because you don't have to spend fuel making it. The big win on using charcoal is not the increases smelting time. It does increase it, but its not that drastic. The big win is letting you make torches, and hence breaking the need to find coal on your first night. Running furnaces off of tree farms is just as doable without using charcoal.