I ponder right now if beta 1.5 (or 1.4_9 etc) will have an effect as great as to change the aim of minecraft? I do not want this to be a duplicating thread about general stats.
Currently the "aim" of minecraft has been argued over many different sides. Is it about finding Diamonds , About building grand structures , getting your own pet wolves, entering the nethe r and many more. Minecraft in itself has no "aim". It is whatever you want it to be.
Stats and have been a definate part of minecraft in the future for some time now. Dispite many earlier discussions I insist to post this one question. One insignificant speck of dust in the sea of dirt and grime. The tip of a pin under with a 2 seccond half life. And now I ask you:
Will stats become the main point of minecraft to rule over all other points.
No doubt there will be a: build a 60 meter cactus, or use wolves to attack 2 creepers, Find a diamond on your first week or even kill 20 ghasts.
Dispite Notch s announcement on his blog, I believe there will have to be strenuous tasks that will ivolve the current main aspects of minecraft. I would like to make an area where we can riddle ourselves with questions like "will achievments be in SMP" or "will there be desert, forest, mountain, nether and iceworldesque land chalenges. Please discuss your own unanswerable questions like these.
Edited due to prolonged discussion of wrongness. I am a n00B with a capital B.....
Achievements will NOT be chores like “cut down 10000 trees”, but rather challenges like “ride a pig off a cliff”. Stats, however, will be used to keep track of how many trees you have cut down. The long term plan is to show achievements and stats from the profile page on minecraft.net as well, in case you want to brag.
I don't believe stats will mean much, and achievements won't be bragging rights...
Achievements will NOT be chores like “cut down 10000 trees”, but rather challenges like “ride a pig off a cliff”. Stats, however, will be used to keep track of how many trees you have cut down. The long term plan is to show achievements and stats from the profile page on minecraft.net as well, in case you want to brag.
I don't believe stats will mean much, and achievements won't be bragging rights...
This topic makes no real sense to me. It appears that stats and achievements are the exactly same, which they are not.
Stats only show how you play your game and pretty much have nothing to do with achievements because there won't be stupid achievements like "find 100 diamonds" (according to Notch) which would the only type achievements that would work together with stats.
Also, unlike achievements, stats aren't game changing. How could they be by only showing how many cobblestone you have mined so far or other stuff?
Exactly. Stats are mainly just some infos for you. Wouldn't you want to know how many stones you minded since you started your world or how many hits you got..
Achievements on the other hand should be somewhat of another way to play the game. Like a pacifist achievement in a shooter. Which could also be applied to mc: Stay alive for one night, without a shelter, weapons and just one steak. Or something like this. On the other hand it could also provide some fun, if they're not explained. Example: You're riding that pig just for fun over an edge and an achievement pops up: "Superpig!". I'd rofl.
In simple terms I mean to say that stats and achievements both will contribute to how we play the game.
Stats will become a competition. Lets face it, everyone wants to get somewhere in the minecraft world and stats will be the way to gt there. Achievements will have to be reccorded on stats. I know stats will be used for RECORDING stats, but there will have to be an "achievements unlocked" task.
Sorry to all the "disbelievers" out there but you can rub my mistakes in my face when we have INGAME proof of this.
Another thing I would like to bring up (and the main reason I brung up achievements in the first place" Is how they (achievements) will operate in SMP. Hence the "discuss there unanswerable questions"
In simple terms I mean to say that stats and achievements both will contribute to how we play the game.
Stats will become a competition. Lets face it, everyone wants to get somewhere in the minecraft world and stats will be the way to gt there. Achievements will have to be reccorded on stats. I know stats will be used for RECORDING stats, but there will have to be an "achievements unlocked" task.
Sorry to all the "disbelievers" out there but you can rub my mistakes in my face when we have INGAME proof of this.
Another thing I would like to bring up (and the main reason I brung up achievements in the first place" Is how they (achievements) will operate in SMP. Hence the "discuss there unanswerable questions"
~A³ (Although I see what you were whining about)
OH YEAH I WANT TO GET WAY UP HIGH IN THOSE STATS!
How in the world are you somehow speaking for all the players of minecraft?
In simple terms I mean to say that stats and achievements both will contribute to how we play the game.
Stats will become a competition. Lets face it, everyone wants to get somewhere in the minecraft world and stats will be the way to gt there. Achievements will have to be reccorded on stats. I know stats will be used for RECORDING stats, but there will have to be an "achievements unlocked" task.
Sorry to all the "disbelievers" out there but you can rub my mistakes in my face when you have INGAME proof of this.
Another thing I would like to bring up (and the main reason I brung up achievements in the first place" Is how they (achievements) will operate in SMP. Hence the "discuss there unanswerable questions"
~A³ (Although I see what you were whining about)
OH YEAH I WANT TO GET WAY UP HIGH IN THOSE STATS!
How in the world are you somehow speaking for all the players of minecraft?
Im speaking from my own experiances. Thats all. I will say this now and no more discussion of this argument. "Sorry to all the "disbelievers" out there but you can rub my mistakes in my face when you have INGAME proof of this." I know what I said was not entirely true but this is only my opinion. I won't reply to any more arguments of my improperly worded post.
I'm not arguing, it's a discussion it's what the forum is for, and if you're going to stop discussing your topic within a few posts why did you even make it?
Plus I fail to see how stats and achievements are going to "change the game forever" the point of Minecraft is to do whatever you want. That's right, you can build things, go mining, fight mobs, explore, etc. Stats and achievements are just an addition to things you can do, some people will care and do them, others wont. I fail to see how these change the game at all or cause any problems in the first place.
If you don't care about achievements or stats, when someone says "I got all achievements bro!" ignore them and play and have fun.
Right here your talking about Achievments,
Honestly no I don't think stats will change the game,
Multiplayer wise? yes it will, it could tell the admins who is using Xray vision and stuff, like...
Amount of 's mined compaired to .
Well anyway I'll leave the rest of the discussion to you guys =P
Minecraft is nothing but a sandbox game, do whatever the hell you want. There is no real goal, this game can be edited with modding beyond imagination. Nothing is able to change the game forever. Not even exploding green erm genitalia. So Achievements wouldnt do much to edit the game, just give you something to reach for while messing around/bragging rights.
Considering how easy it would be to cheat your way through collecting achievements or to get some high number in a stat...I really don't see why any sane person would consider themselves "beaten" just because some stranger has wasted more time doing random actions than they have.
Currently the "aim" of minecraft has been argued over many different sides. Is it about finding Diamonds
Stats and have been a definate part of minecraft in the future for some time now. Dispite many earlier discussions I insist to post this one question. One insignificant speck of dust in the sea of dirt and grime. The tip of a pin under with a 2 seccond half life. And now I ask you:
Will stats become the main point of minecraft to rule over all other points.
No doubt there will be a: build a 60 meter cactus, or use wolves to attack 2 creepers, Find a diamond on your first week or even kill 20 ghasts.
Dispite Notch
Edited due to prolonged discussion of wrongness. I am a n00B with a capital B.....
achieveemnts wont be chores. but rather harder and funnier stuff.
You don't get rewarded for reaching a certain amount of collected things, killed mobs etc.
Achievements will be for personal satisfaction only. Why must everything be a competition in the gaming world?
I don't believe stats will mean much, and achievements won't be bragging rights...
I don't believe stats will mean much, and achievements won't be bragging rights...
Exactly. Stats are mainly just some infos for you. Wouldn't you want to know how many stones you minded since you started your world or how many hits you got..
Achievements on the other hand should be somewhat of another way to play the game. Like a pacifist achievement in a shooter. Which could also be applied to mc: Stay alive for one night, without a shelter, weapons and just one steak. Or something like this. On the other hand it could also provide some fun, if they're not explained. Example: You're riding that pig just for fun over an edge and an achievement pops up: "Superpig!". I'd rofl.
Stats will become a competition. Lets face it, everyone wants to get somewhere in the minecraft world and stats will be the way to gt there. Achievements will have to be reccorded on stats. I know stats will be used for RECORDING stats, but there will have to be an "achievements unlocked" task.
Sorry to all the "disbelievers" out there but you can rub my mistakes in my face when we have INGAME proof of this.
Another thing I would like to bring up (and the main reason I brung up achievements in the first place" Is how they (achievements) will operate in SMP. Hence the "discuss there unanswerable questions"
my goal in the game is to have a full single chest of basically every material in the game, for no reason.
its up to you, just like its always been, and always will be.
achievements wont be invasive, there wont be anything you HAVE to do. isnt that all that matters?
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OH YEAH I WANT TO GET WAY UP HIGH IN THOSE STATS!
How in the world are you somehow speaking for all the players of minecraft?
Im speaking from my own experiances. Thats all. I will say this now and no more discussion of this argument. "Sorry to all the "disbelievers" out there but you can rub my mistakes in my face when you have INGAME proof of this." I know what I said was not entirely true but this is only my opinion. I won't reply to any more arguments of my improperly worded post.
Plus I fail to see how stats and achievements are going to "change the game forever" the point of Minecraft is to do whatever you want. That's right, you can build things, go mining, fight mobs, explore, etc. Stats and achievements are just an addition to things you can do, some people will care and do them, others wont. I fail to see how these change the game at all or cause any problems in the first place.
If you don't care about achievements or stats, when someone says "I got all achievements bro!" ignore them and play and have fun.
-Quote from a friend.
Honestly no I don't think stats will change the game,
Multiplayer wise? yes it will, it could tell the admins who is using Xray vision and stuff, like...
Amount of
Well anyway I'll leave the rest of the discussion to you guys =P
MCMCMC
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If you dont like
bedsachievements then dontusecare about itlol beds are different! i brought up that topic xD
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notch did mention at one point that he may do that.