When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! GET MAD! I DON'T WANT YOUR DANG LEMONS! WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THESE?! DEMAND TO SEE LIFE'S MANAGER! Make life RUE the day it thought it could give CAVE JOHNSON LEMONS! DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?! I'M THE MAN WHO'S GONNA BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN! WITH THE LEMONS! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that BURNS YOUR HOUSE DOWN!
Wow, I really had a hard time figuring out what message you hid in your abstract art. I was looking for it for like an hour, and I even can't find a single hint. Anyway, you did a great job hiding that phrase somewhere. Good thing somebody was able to guess it.
Without prior knowledge of which color corresponds to which number it was impossible.
ok, first off, I did not get to the point of actually really trying hard to crack this code, but I'm going to spell out my thought process while reading this thread, before i got to the posts that answered it.
my thoughts where:
you don't need prior knowledge, because the colors can be arranged spectrally, with the exception of the pinks. (red through yellow to green to blue)
first thing i assumed is that the colors had to be numbered or alphabetized, but with so few colors, numbers are the best bet. So you try the spectrum, ignoring for the moment the pinks, because they don't fit into it well, 50% chance you order the spectrum correctly in terms of starting at red, instead of blue. we pretend that i did that; so, you now have a number for every color on the challenge. which looks like this: then
and numbered:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and then 9, 0 for light and dark pink. (but remember, we don't know about the pink ones)
this is where i reached the point in the that the code was broken, but my explanation of how it probably was done follows.
Thusly:
becomes
111334444xx2333
1788x588x13xx34
121164255434381
with X where a pink block was.
Now, we either have to break that down into information chunks. reading it like a single line of text really does not help much, but breaking it down by column seems to be more likely to be useful, because it gives us a boundry to work with, simple 3 digit groups.
This is where the code gets devious, and very improbable for someone to guess, because the next step requires an alphabetical list of the states of the USA, (which i know because the cypher maker revealed it)
which, not being mine-craft related, most people looking at this are not going to come up as a possible letter table quickly, if ever.
(however, a person familiar with crypto, codes and the like may use this, as it is a common ordered list, the use of existing ordered lists is not totally uncommon in code making, and any number of codes are based off of common documents and lists)
So, if you make that leap, you might end up with:
HELP-ME O----AN
with dashes being any column with a pink block,because we've ignored the number status of the pink blocks. (because they don't fit the spectrum well)
after that, its a matter of playing wheel of fortune and filling in the blanks.
I grant that the list of the states for a letter table is almost impossible to jump to for a lot of people, but for the most part, the code IS crack-able, without prior knowledge of the colors numbers.
However, as easy as that sounds, there are plenty of steps that could be taken incorrectly, and you won't know until the code spits out a garglemesh of nonsense that you made some kind of mistake, like running the spectrum backwards, or assuming that it was 4 digit groups in a linear fashion instead of columns of 3. Kudos to the people that solved it. as Cryptography is a task only for those not easily frustrated by failed attempts.
No one solved this. The OP had to give us his key. Solving this was virtually impossible without the key, if not literally impossible.
As a "see if any of you can solve this" game it was 100% fail.
Here, see if any of you can solve this:
I'm using the same process with the same color code. My list is only two words long. They are proper names of TV personalities. There - now my code is orders of magnitude easier to break than the OP's. Here you go:
015 022 013
Good luck!
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Give up, yet? OK, that's what I thought.
The answer is "rat". The two names were Peter and Jan - the middle two children of the Brady Bunch. I wasn't going to wait for one of you to guess that.
The pointlessness of this thread starting to sink in on everyone now?
For those of you who actually spent time trying to figure this out - the OP owes you part of your life back!
This is EPIC. Using the wool colours like this is ingenious and they could use this in the Art of War thread for sending messages. Once I made something similar to this only I didn't encrypt the numbers themselves (and I used Pokedex numbers and Pokemon name letters >.<). My bro couldn't solve it after 3 days, so I gave him the answer. (Pokemon would actually work better because rather than 50 strings of letters to choose from you'd have 649 (hey, like the lottery!) so it is much more challenging. Also, you could have the 16 wool colours represent 0-15, and adding up the wool values gets you the actual number and a row with only zeros could represent a placeholder so that it separates each character most blocks for the index id (position in list of strings) and the last wool block in the column) for the character id (letter position in the string).
Using the order of the wool in the smilies list (1 - 16):
EDIT: 0 would be useless. 1 - 16 then.
1 is rep. by
While 19 is rep. by , or 15 + 4.
Or it can be rep. by (16+3).
Etc.
As you can see, this can become an insane code to crack, what with the possibility of using different keyword strings each time of altering the syntax for identifying the character ( character id first), or changing the keywords themselves.
An example, using Pokemon (Bulbasaur #001; charmander #004; Squirtle #009; and squirtle again):
1499
6246
Turns into: Sh--
Obviously this can be expanded by using larger index ids (causing the columns to increase in size) and you can order different strings in any order you like, so a code like this would be extremely potent.
Actually, can I put this post into its own thread and add more stuff to it?
Interesting concept though isn't using states a bit too limiting on the cypher? If any column results in a number higher than 507, the code does not function, correct? Or am I missing something here? An important part of encryption should be that all combinations turn up a result of some sort, I'd think, even if said result is gibberish.
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Long before a man comes of age and takes up his sword he knows what cause he shall die for.
Interesting concept though isn't using states a bit too limiting on the cypher? If any column results in a number higher than 507, the code does not function, correct? Or am I missing something here? An important part of encryption should be that all combinations turn up a result of some sort, I'd think, even if said result is gibberish.
*facepalm*
the entire point of this type of code/cypher is to put in your own keywords you can use for the letters. it aint always gonna be states! you could make them common last names, ordered 1st to 100th, or Pokemon (1 - 649!!) or whatever else!
Interesting concept though isn't using states a bit too limiting on the cypher? If any column results in a number higher than 507, the code does not function, correct? Or am I missing something here? An important part of encryption should be that all combinations turn up a result of some sort, I'd think, even if said result is gibberish.
*facepalm*
the entire point of this type of code/cypher is to put in your own keywords you can use for the letters. it aint always gonna be states! you could make them common last names, ordered 1st to 100th, or Pokemon (1 - 649!!) or whatever else!
Your facepalm is in vain for I am referring very specifically to the OP's own code. The code is incomplete because, as I pointed out, there will be numerous combinations that will not give a result. While the given examples of it follow a pre-determined guideline, any assortment of cloth should not remain undefined. In this specific instance it would be easy enough to add that when the first pair of digits exceeds 50 it should reset, such as 51=1, 62=12, 00=50 and so on. This would complete the code and allow for a wider variety of placement. I do acknowledge that others are inserting their own keys, but flaws in code just happen to bug me so I thought I'd point that out.
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Long before a man comes of age and takes up his sword he knows what cause he shall die for.
dang you.
OK
OK
There is no way anyone would have guessed this part, not even Stephen Hawking or Rain Man.
Exactly. That's a very poorly made assumption on the OP's part.
But this one.... If you wouldn't of made this up, you wouldn't be able to figure this out either.
And as for the parts with the states, 3/4 of the people on this forum are not from the states, including me. Plus, 3-4 could mean anything.
ok, first off, I did not get to the point of actually really trying hard to crack this code, but I'm going to spell out my thought process while reading this thread, before i got to the posts that answered it.
my thoughts where:
you don't need prior knowledge, because the colors can be arranged spectrally, with the exception of the pinks. (red through yellow to green to blue)
first thing i assumed is that the colors had to be numbered or alphabetized, but with so few colors, numbers are the best bet. So you try the spectrum, ignoring for the moment the pinks, because they don't fit into it well, 50% chance you order the spectrum correctly in terms of starting at red, instead of blue. we pretend that i did that; so, you now have a number for every color on the challenge. which looks like this:
and numbered:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and then 9, 0 for light and dark pink. (but remember, we don't know about the pink ones)
this is where i reached the point in the that the code was broken, but my explanation of how it probably was done follows.
Thusly:
becomes
111334444xx2333
1788x588x13xx34
121164255434381
with X where a pink block was.
Now, we either have to break that down into information chunks. reading it like a single line of text really does not help much, but breaking it down by column seems to be more likely to be useful, because it gives us a boundry to work with, simple 3 digit groups.
111 172 181 381 3x6 454 482 485 4x5 x14 x33 2x4 3x3 338 341
This is where the code gets devious, and very improbable for someone to guess, because the next step requires an alphabetical list of the states of the USA, (which i know because the cypher maker revealed it)
which, not being mine-craft related, most people looking at this are not going to come up as a possible letter table quickly, if ever.
(however, a person familiar with crypto, codes and the like may use this, as it is a common ordered list, the use of existing ordered lists is not totally uncommon in code making, and any number of codes are based off of common documents and lists)
So, if you make that leap, you might end up with:
HELP-ME O----AN
with dashes being any column with a pink block,because we've ignored the number status of the pink blocks. (because they don't fit the spectrum well)
after that, its a matter of playing wheel of fortune and filling in the blanks.
I grant that the list of the states for a letter table is almost impossible to jump to for a lot of people, but for the most part, the code IS crack-able, without prior knowledge of the colors numbers.
However, as easy as that sounds, there are plenty of steps that could be taken incorrectly, and you won't know until the code spits out a garglemesh of nonsense that you made some kind of mistake, like running the spectrum backwards, or assuming that it was 4 digit groups in a linear fashion instead of columns of 3. Kudos to the people that solved it. as Cryptography is a task only for those not easily frustrated by failed attempts.
You're KIDDING ME! If that's not working hard, I want you to work for me.
Anyways, isn't the point of making a code so it will be hard to solve?
JUST SAY WHAT T IS O:<
It's already been solved. The solver even posted his process...ON THIS PAGE
As a "see if any of you can solve this" game it was 100% fail.
Here, see if any of you can solve this:
I'm using the same process with the same color code. My list is only two words long. They are proper names of TV personalities. There - now my code is orders of magnitude easier to break than the OP's. Here you go:
015 022 013
Good luck!
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Give up, yet? OK, that's what I thought.
The answer is "rat". The two names were Peter and Jan - the middle two children of the Brady Bunch. I wasn't going to wait for one of you to guess that.
The pointlessness of this thread starting to sink in on everyone now?
For those of you who actually spent time trying to figure this out - the OP owes you part of your life back!
Yea, me too.
It's Jedi Outcast
It says f@g.
a row with only zeros could represent a placeholder so that it separateseach character most blocks for the index id (position in list of strings) and the last wool block in the column) for the character id (letter position in the string).Using the order of the wool in the smilies list (1 - 16):
EDIT: 0 would be useless. 1 - 16 then.
1 is rep. by
While 19 is rep. by
Or it can be rep. by
Etc.
As you can see, this can become an insane code to crack, what with the possibility of using different keyword strings each time of altering the syntax for identifying the character ( character id first), or changing the keywords themselves.
An example, using Pokemon (Bulbasaur #001; charmander #004; Squirtle #009; and squirtle again):
1499
6246
Turns into: Sh--
Obviously this can be expanded by using larger index ids (causing the columns to increase in size) and you can order different strings in any order you like, so a code like this would be extremely potent.
Actually, can I put this post into its own thread and add more stuff to it?
AdvHud Mod @Jetstream395
*facepalm*
the entire point of this type of code/cypher is to put in your own keywords you can use for the letters. it aint always gonna be states! you could make them common last names, ordered 1st to 100th, or Pokemon (1 - 649!!) or whatever else!
AdvHud Mod @Jetstream395
Your facepalm is in vain for I am referring very specifically to the OP's own code. The code is incomplete because, as I pointed out, there will be numerous combinations that will not give a result. While the given examples of it follow a pre-determined guideline, any assortment of cloth should not remain undefined. In this specific instance it would be easy enough to add that when the first pair of digits exceeds 50 it should reset, such as 51=1, 62=12, 00=50 and so on. This would complete the code and allow for a wider variety of placement. I do acknowledge that others are inserting their own keys, but flaws in code just happen to bug me so I thought I'd point that out.