well at least you presented your opinion in an organized well thought out manner and not trolling like several people out there with obviously fake accounts and are just blindly hating on beta, but you need to understand that beta is like what cfehunter said, larger, more stable updates.
and to cameron, good point, it is true that when on a computer we are only aware on a logical level that there are real human beings with lives and families and all that, they cant understand it on any sort of normal social level, so the base human comes out and just releases a wave of ignorance, rudeness and outright stupidity, people end up turning off all their filters and dont see that a stream of curses does not a convincing argument make. (if anyone at all gets this ill be happy, thats why i say these things)
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if your on limewire, it's for some kind of illegal software, though what kind of illegal software you end up downloading is up to luck, not you.
What don't you get Arctic? Are you totally god damn retarded?
A lot of change was done to the code, it might not be in the changelog "Rewrote lines 3456 - 3587" "Made XYZ run more efficiently" "Blah blah blah".... Changelog is for the general public who knows NOTHING ABOUT PROGRAMMING.
Keep up with the development blogs and twitter accounts and you'll find out whats really going on.
Until then, help to beta test the new release or shut the @#$% up seriously.
You're not helping ANYONE!
You're here cuz you're angry about the state of an UNFINISHED GAME YOU OPTED TO BETA TEST! SO F@#$ING BETA TEST IT B!@#$ES OR WAIT FOR IT TO BE FINISHED!
*WAH WAH but I can't because it's unplayable*
Unless you own a mac, stfu and give your map time to do leaf decay. Or start a new world and see how playable it actually is.
HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT HAVE TO BE SAID. YOU PRE-ORDERED AN UNFINISHED GAME AND WERE GIVEN ACCESS TO HELP ALPHA/BETA TEST IT! STFU AND REPORT YOUR FINDINGS HELPFULLY OR @#$% OFF TILL IT'S DONE!
I signed up for the sole purpose to say that if you are bothered by Minecraft's Beta, you should never, ever, EVER buy Fallout: New Vegas. That game was basically in Beta phase, except that it was touted as being the final release and you had to pay $60 for it. Minecraft has nowhere near the amount of bugs NV did (or maybe still does. Heck if I know, I traded it in for Black Ops).
Anyway, it's mildly entertaining to sit back and watch people argue over the Internet without realizing that they're never going to get anywhere and they should just agree to disagree. I'm also waiting for Godwin's Law to kick in.
No no no. Notch never promised anything huge for the beginning of Beta, he said the first part of beta would be for mostly behind the scenes bug fix work.
This has probably been said a million times already (I didn't read this whole thread) but, I just want you guys to remember this is beta and we are beta testers, we paid to test this game and test this game we shall.
Feedback is all well and good but we must remember this game isn't even close to being done yet and we are basically just along for the ride. Notch did not promise anything big for the first day of beta, the only thing he stated was he might do something special and guess what he did not, now these bugs are a pain in the ass but we have to put up with it because this game is not even close to being finished yet.
Let's keep reporting these bugs and other bad things in the game in the forums or even direct emails to Notch but please, don't be a whiny little ***** about it.
Anyone that agrees with the OP is, in my opinion , A dumbass. NOTCH NEVER PROMISED YOU ANYTHING. All he did was change the title and fix some code. Be damn grateful that he actually has a life and makes this game for you. He never promised ANY change, and you guys are just not deserving of even being able to play the game if you are going to whine about it like this. Grow up.
You know, just because you keep saying it doesn't make it any more true. Reality doesn't support your statement, so unless you have an dev source that specifically says that this was a large update there's nothing more than your word, which doesn't really hold much weight since you are just some random dude on the Internet.
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You're here cuz you're angry about the state of an UNFINISHED GAME YOU OPTED TO BETA TEST! SO F@#$ING BETA TEST IT B!@#$ES OR WAIT FOR IT TO BE FINISHED!
Thank you for telling me why I am here, I knew that there had to be a reason.
Oh ..., now I remember, I am here because I am disappointed in how the dev team conducted the change from a functioning alpha to a non-functioning beta.
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Unless you own a mac, stfu and give your map time to do leaf decay. Or start a new world and see how playable it actually is.
I test multiplayer, that's all that matters to me, and its problems have nothing to do with leaf decay.
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STFU AND REPORT YOUR FINDINGS HELPFULLY OR @#$% OFF TILL IT'S DONE!
I could do that ...., or I could post here and watch you blow a gasket. Fun times!
ARCTIC:
1. READ DEV BLOGS AND TWITTER
2. ???
3. PROFIT
...if you want your information. Just because you didn't get new features this time doesn't mean nothing happened, you are so spoiled.
P.S. You're just showing the world what a douche you really are. If you actually care about fixing the game file a report. Else just keep whinging like a diaper baby xD
Oh, and has everyone forgotten that most the staff have been sick for a week? They made the promise to give you beta, oh could you imagine the diaper baby outrage if that had been delayed? It was a lose lose scenario, have some compassion and understanding. They are not cyborgs, they are fallible humans. Just have some decency and patience and wait. Screaming like a brat just shows everyone that you're a spoiled child who's had everything given to them.
Mojang has been sick as hell. Show some compassion.
Why does everybody feel so entitled to have the Beta they wanted. Guess what? You bought the game in alpha, and your set FOR LIFE. No more buying for you. That's a pretty darn good deal, considering that most developers charge per update! So- it feels like the Beta update only affects newcomers (in that they have to pay more now.) Get over it!
For us updates are just updates, Beta - Alpha- Omega- the words don't mean anything man! Stop reading into it, Notch decided he wanted his program beta now, its not YOUR decision to make, it's HIS. Quit Crying about it and go play minecraft, or something else!
If your going to complain, have a reason. Some people do. But this "This isn't beta" stuff is just silly. Notch says it's beta. It doesn't matter how you feel about it.
I am sorry if I can't see eye to eye with notch's methods but clearly this is not close beta.
Usually in alpha we actually got decent updates and such, Example; Halloween update.
So what happened to the "Beta" update?
This should mark a new day for Minecrafters as a new era of Minecraft but I see is a very wasted update.
Yes I know that I am going to get criticized a-lot but I don't believe this isn't anywhere close to being called an Official beta release.
You realize that "Going INTO Beta" does not make it like the beta's you've probably played in the past, where its a few weeks from release ready, right? Beta development phase is a lengthy process that gets better and better as time goes on. If you seriously have such a problem with this, STOP PLAYING MINECRAFT UNTIL RELEASE! Now go untwist your underwear and think about how much of a douche you have been.
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Hate Beta? Good for you, if you don't like it don't play it.
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I have a fetish for women. Is this odd? Is there something wrong with me? It’s really bad, too. Like, everyone time one of them walks by, I do a sly little chest-rear ogle. I can’t stop myself! It’s like a disease!
I love it how 95% of the people in this thread already own the game (and all the future expansions and updates), and yet they still complain about the price rise which doesn't relate to them in the slightest.
If you're too lazy/scabby to mow a lawn then jump down the department store and buy a prepaid credit card, get ****ed. The care-cup is empty. c\_/
You know, just because you keep saying it doesn't make it any more true. Reality doesn't support your statement, so unless you have an dev source that specifically says that this was a large update there's nothing more than your word, which doesn't really hold much weight since you are just some random dude on the Internet.
Java's practically an open book which can be decompiled and recompiled freely. The obfuscation does nothing...
Hmm i see why you all are getting mad for my computer lags so bad and only reason i can still move is because i have a game booster program.
But my dad computer works fine a little laggy but it works fast and my dads computer is so god damn old but not to old i say about 2005 when we bought it and it was maybe 1 or 2 years old and we had to downgrade the graphics card because i played a to powerful game and messed it up i think but i bought this game just when it hit beta but who cares if single player doesn't work i do care but i don't need to be saying he sucks he has a life too and i think beta is a waste but you just have to wait with all the complaining i bet you he is working on a way to fix it right now.
Note : I know i will have someone saying something about what i said but i don't care and i probably said things that doesn't make sense.
Alpha To Beta Upgrade Does Not Equal A Big Update Full Of New Features.
The price hike was announced a lonnnnng time ago. The price hike does not mean more features are going to be added overnight. "Beta" is just a word. A development stage. Nothing more.
I am sorry if I can't see eye to eye with notch's methods but clearly this is not close beta.
Usually in alpha we actually got decent updates and such, Example; Halloween update.
So what happened to the "Beta" update?
This should mark a new day for Minecrafters as a new era of Minecraft but I see is a very wasted update.
Here's the the patch updates of what we have received.
* Working server-side inventory! Finally! (And as a result of that, a whole pile of bugs and issues got fixed)
* Made SMP servers save chunks way less often in most cases. Chunks don’t resave if they got saved in the last 30 seconds
* Moving too far away from a container, or having it blow up, closes the inventory screen
* Fixed /kill
* Introduced leaf decay again. It acts differently from before
* You can now throw eggs
* On a whim, added super exclusive clan cloaks for Mojang Employees
* .. and something else, which is even more rare
Server side inventory, Sure that great but there only one problem.
Where will all the custom building servers go? They allowed in-game editors for builders to easily make buildings look EPIC and actually had fun playing the game, You also have manage to get 2 new ways dupe(Which by they way are VERY fast to dupe items, I'm talking about duping stacks(64) of any-item within seconds and being able to get a full inventory within 1minute. Now server side inventory's aren't going to help you there.
You say you made chunk saves save way less often?
I say that you have made single player nearly impossible to play with how much lag is going on now DUE TO the chunk update.
You have fixed a very minor container glitch?
I am sorry to say must players really never noticed it and it wasn't really game ruining.
You added /kill command to multilayer servers?
I am sorry to say people already made better ways to use the /kill command on there servers.
You can throw eggs!?!?!?
You got to be joking me all you did was copy and paste the snowball throwing code and change the appearance so it looks like an egg now, Also you didn't even update the hitting appearance as it still looks like a normal snowball breaking.
And that something really rare?
I doubt that you added it, You are most likely going to say something that was already in game or something that is so common that isn't rare for us players to think of.
Yes I know that I am going to get criticized a-lot but I don't believe this isn't anywhere close to being called an Official beta release.
Alpha To Beta Upgrade Does Not Equal A Big Update Full Of New Features.
The price hike was announced a lonnnnng time ago. The price hike does not mean more features are going to be added overnight. "Beta" is just a word. A development stage. Nothing more.
The sad part is, majority of people know this and cry about it anyways.
If you can't grief Minecraft servers because of lag/bugs, only one thing griefers can do: Grief the forums. xD
and to cameron, good point, it is true that when on a computer we are only aware on a logical level that there are real human beings with lives and families and all that, they cant understand it on any sort of normal social level, so the base human comes out and just releases a wave of ignorance, rudeness and outright stupidity, people end up turning off all their filters and dont see that a stream of curses does not a convincing argument make. (if anyone at all gets this ill be happy, thats why i say these things)
A lot of change was done to the code, it might not be in the changelog "Rewrote lines 3456 - 3587" "Made XYZ run more efficiently" "Blah blah blah".... Changelog is for the general public who knows NOTHING ABOUT PROGRAMMING.
Keep up with the development blogs and twitter accounts and you'll find out whats really going on.
Until then, help to beta test the new release or shut the @#$% up seriously.
You're not helping ANYONE!
You're here cuz you're angry about the state of an UNFINISHED GAME YOU OPTED TO BETA TEST! SO F@#$ING BETA TEST IT B!@#$ES OR WAIT FOR IT TO BE FINISHED!
*WAH WAH but I can't because it's unplayable*
Unless you own a mac, stfu and give your map time to do leaf decay. Or start a new world and see how playable it actually is.
HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT HAVE TO BE SAID. YOU PRE-ORDERED AN UNFINISHED GAME AND WERE GIVEN ACCESS TO HELP ALPHA/BETA TEST IT! STFU AND REPORT YOUR FINDINGS HELPFULLY OR @#$% OFF TILL IT'S DONE!
MOD EDIT: User warned for flaming.
Anyway, it's mildly entertaining to sit back and watch people argue over the Internet without realizing that they're never going to get anywhere and they should just agree to disagree. I'm also waiting for Godwin's Law to kick in.
this.
and yes i do call this beta...
The first post says it all.
Feedback is all well and good but we must remember this game isn't even close to being done yet and we are basically just along for the ride. Notch did not promise anything big for the first day of beta, the only thing he stated was he might do something special and guess what he did not, now these bugs are a pain in the ass but we have to put up with it because this game is not even close to being finished yet.
Let's keep reporting these bugs and other bad things in the game in the forums or even direct emails to Notch but please, don't be a whiny little ***** about it.
Typical response of a someone assuming the post had anything to do with notch.
You know, just because you keep saying it doesn't make it any more true. Reality doesn't support your statement, so unless you have an dev source that specifically says that this was a large update there's nothing more than your word, which doesn't really hold much weight since you are just some random dude on the Internet.
Thank you for telling me why I am here, I knew that there had to be a reason.
Oh ..., now I remember, I am here because I am disappointed in how the dev team conducted the change from a functioning alpha to a non-functioning beta.
I test multiplayer, that's all that matters to me, and its problems have nothing to do with leaf decay.
I could do that ...., or I could post here and watch you blow a gasket. Fun times!
1. READ DEV BLOGS AND TWITTER
2. ???
3. PROFIT
...if you want your information. Just because you didn't get new features this time doesn't mean nothing happened, you are so spoiled.
P.S. You're just showing the world what a douche you really are. If you actually care about fixing the game file a report. Else just keep whinging like a diaper baby xD
Mojang has been sick as hell. Show some compassion.
For us updates are just updates, Beta - Alpha- Omega- the words don't mean anything man! Stop reading into it, Notch decided he wanted his program beta now, its not YOUR decision to make, it's HIS. Quit Crying about it and go play minecraft, or something else!
If your going to complain, have a reason. Some people do. But this "This isn't beta" stuff is just silly. Notch says it's beta. It doesn't matter how you feel about it.
You realize that "Going INTO Beta" does not make it like the beta's you've probably played in the past, where its a few weeks from release ready, right? Beta development phase is a lengthy process that gets better and better as time goes on. If you seriously have such a problem with this, STOP PLAYING MINECRAFT UNTIL RELEASE! Now go untwist your underwear and think about how much of a douche you have been.
If you're too lazy/scabby to mow a lawn then jump down the department store and buy a prepaid credit card, get ****ed. The care-cup is empty. c\_/
Java's practically an open book which can be decompiled and recompiled freely. The obfuscation does nothing...
But my dad computer works fine a little laggy but it works fast and my dads computer is so god damn old but not to old i say about 2005 when we bought it and it was maybe 1 or 2 years old and we had to downgrade the graphics card because i played a to powerful game and messed it up i think but i bought this game just when it hit beta but who cares if single player doesn't work i do care but i don't need to be saying he sucks he has a life too and i think beta is a waste but you just have to wait with all the complaining i bet you he is working on a way to fix it right now.
Note : I know i will have someone saying something about what i said but i don't care and i probably said things that doesn't make sense.
The price hike was announced a lonnnnng time ago. The price hike does not mean more features are going to be added overnight. "Beta" is just a word. A development stage. Nothing more.
Yes, I do call it BETA.
The game IS NOT FINISHED YET, hence beta tag.
The sad part is, majority of people know this and cry about it anyways.
If you can't grief Minecraft servers because of lag/bugs, only one thing griefers can do: Grief the forums. xD