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Interesting idea, but as it's been said this is over powered. In SSP it may be better (maybe even let it take a full Minecraft week to take effect in the ore transformation) but on a server someone could just end up being nearly unbeatable. Silk Touch would really make this OP too.

Quote from Lai1999

There is only one Dragon Egg per world. So, effectively making Diamond production as slow as hell. Strip Mining? Anyone?

Well, I still think that it is a bit overpowered. Diamonds should be very hard to find and rare. Not just given to us, even if the process takes painfully long.

Only 1 person can get the Dragon egg. On PVPSMP, someone will be a god by finding an end portal before anyone else joins

Maybe we could balance it, like the diamond ore couldn't be mined unless you had let's say 20 experience levels, because its possible to "farm" diamonds, through villager trading and that is easy but also requires a lot of luck. And maybe you could use different ores, such as gold to iron which would cost less.

Quote from Turkybaconyum

Only 1 person can get the Dragon egg. On PVPSMP, someone will be a god by finding an end portal before anyone else joins

Just simply destroy the portal

Diamonds shouldnt be farmable like this. As someone above said wait for jeb to add the red dragons.

This is a good idea, and original. But it seems to big of an add for too little of an object. This would be much better in a mod.
Sorry, but this is no support from me. But good job coming up with an original idea.

1 diamond in 3 hours? If anything, this is underpowered. How many diamonds can you mine in that time just by exploring caves? For final boss loot, this is pretty disappointing.

This Is Terrible. Once you get the required materials, you can get an almost-endless supply of diamonds, easily.

A three hour wait is hardly renewable. By all of your suggestions, mining should be disabled to prevent aquiring diamonds because its too easy. Give a reason that will stand any kind of argument, or dont provide your opinion. While this does make diamonds renewable, getting silk touch in itself can take way more time and effort than getting diamonds. Then, to pay for the pickaxe you got silk touch on, assuming its diamonds, takes 9 hours, and making a BUD / Piston system that works for this is EXTREMELY limited knowledge, even i myself with an intermediate redstone knowledge does not know how to accomplish such a thing. I support OP, and this idea is NOT OP.

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Quote from roundninja

This Is Terrible. Once you get the required materials, you can get an almost-endless supply of diamonds, easily.

Yeah, it's so easy to wait an hour to get just ONE diamond. In all seriousness, you people saying it's overpowered are idiots. By the time you get to the end, you probably have at least a stack of diamonds. Waiting an hour to get one isn't overpowered.

Quote from JonSM

1 diamond in 3 hours? If anything, this is underpowered. How many diamonds can you mine in that time just by exploring caves?

Probably not very much, diamonds are very rare.

Nope! Very OP and makes Diamonds too easy to get. No support.

Quote from JamieA350

No, because unlimited diamonds.

Your iron remark is very limited because of the abundance of iron - an unbreaking diamond pickaxe + a decent cave = several stacks of block if you only take iron and stay a while..

No, not unlimited diamonds. Coal ore is not unlimited.

Thx to everyone for your feedback, whether positive or negative.
I appreciate you taking your time to view my topic.
If you wouldn't mind, please hop over to this thread please.

endless diamond tools is easy with villagers, create a breeding farm for them and then cart them off to stalls, get an inf paper trader and wool trader, build large cane farms and large sheep pen and boom, emeralds out the wahoo. Then just trade them for all the diamond armor and tools that you have unlocked after you breed all the blacksmiths. Not too hard to have inf Diamond stuff in game right now so I really dont see why everyone is whining over the Inf diamonds part.

However there needs to be a way to hatch the egg and get a new dragon........Thats the use the Egg needs.

People are saying that this is overpowered because you don't have to put any substantial continuous effort to use this, which is true. But I think the main reason it is getting so little support of because it wouldn't be fun.
Caving, fighting mobs, being active and alert, with greater risk matching greater reward -- fun. Waiting an agonizingly long time to get resources with no effort and no risk? Not fun. Even being able to do other things in the mean time doesn't solve the problem, because it will just be an essentially free handout every few hours. Matching reward with risk and some effort is fun. Matching reward with effort alone is grinding. Matching reward with time is not fun, and can be considered grinding. But this suggestion matches continuous reward with simple capital, which is not fun.

Because of the tons of negative feedback, I shall ask a mod to shut this thread down. Thank you for your cooperation. If you want to try and revive this idea, feel free to do so.

Why is this overpowered? Leave Minecraft on for a few hours, instant sword! Do it overnight? Instant pick in the morning! Maybe you aren't able to leave your computer on for long periods. But how about servers? Don't play for a week? 10 diamonds waiting for you when you come back! It's even worse when you have fortune. A good pick and a setup constantly shifting new coal ores under the egg, and you get diamonds all day.

Assume you sleep at 10 and wake up at 6. 8 hours.
Fortune 3 has an average of 2.5 drops. (a bit in favour of me)
The average wait time for a coal ore to convert is 2 hours and 40 minutes.

8 divided by 2.75 (approximately) (in favour of the poster) = 3 (approximately) (in favour of me) (with little error).
3 times 2.5 = 7.5, or 7 (in favour of you, again).
2 picks and a shovel, or one pick and 2 swords, or a pick, two shovels and a sword.

Sounds pretty good as a reward for sleeping in your bed.

Worst case scenario: 8 (time slept) divided by 3 (maximum hours taken) = 2.6. Let's say 2.
A sword for AFKing? Sure, not very efficient, but a pretty good gift, considering you get one EVERY DAY.

BEST case scenario :

8 divided by 2.5 (in your favour, again) times 4 (maximum for fortune 3)
= 3.2 (let's say three?) *4
= 12!
12 DIAMONDS for AFKing for a night!
Thats four diamond pickaxes, enough for a pick, shovel, sword, axe, and hoe! 3+1+2+3+2 = 11.

Let's now take the maximum results for a week of not playing on an SMP server.
24*7=168
168/2.25=75
75*4 = 300!!!!!!!!!*Insert unneccesarily large amounts of exclamation marks*!!!!!!!!
300 diamonds for hiding a dragon egg underground and picking up 75 coal with your silk touch.

That's how many picks?...
I don't even bother. My point is made.
Also, "you can disable it on SMP" and "you can not do it if you think it's cheaty" and "no one will actually do it" IS NOT a valid excuse. If your suggestion requires players to deliberately disable it to stop it from being misused, your suggestion is bad.

If my maths is wrong, please inform me. Because I kinda suck at it.

Now remove the terribly insulting conversation from your original post.

Quote from Quadrabliz

Why is this overpowered? Leave Minecraft on for a few hours, instant sword! Do it overnight? Instant pick in the morning! Maybe you aren't able to leave your computer on for long periods. But how about servers? Don't play for a week? 10 diamonds waiting for you when you come back! It's even worse when you have fortune. A good pick and a setup constantly shifting new coal ores under the egg, and you get diamonds all day.

Assume you sleep at 10 and wake up at 6. 8 hours.
Fortune 3 has an average of 2.5 drops. (a bit in favour of me)
The average wait time for a coal ore to convert is 2 hours and 40 minutes.

8 divided by 2.75 (approximately) (in favour of the poster) = 3 (approximately) (in favour of me) (with little error).
3 times 2.5 = 7.5, or 7 (in favour of you, again).
2 picks and a shovel, or one pick and 2 swords, or a pick, two shovels and a sword.

Sounds pretty good as a reward for sleeping in your bed.

Worst case scenario: 8 (time slept) divided by 3 (maximum hours taken) = 2.6. Let's say 2.
A sword for AFKing? Sure, not very efficient, but a pretty good gift, considering you get one EVERY DAY.

BEST case scenario :

8 divided by 2.5 (in your favour, again) times 4 (maximum for fortune 3)
= 3.2 (let's say three?) *4
= 12!
12 DIAMONDS for AFKing for a night!
Thats four diamond pickaxes, enough for a pick, shovel, sword, axe, and hoe! 3+1+2+3+2 = 11.

Let's now take the maximum results for a week of not playing on an SMP server.
24*7=168
168/2.25=75
75*4 = 300!!!!!!!!!*Insert unneccesarily large amounts of exclamation marks*!!!!!!!!
300 diamonds for hiding a dragon egg underground and picking up 75 coal with your silk touch.

That's how many picks?...
I don't even bother. My point is made.
Also, "you can disable it on SMP" and "you can not do it if you think it's cheaty" and "no one will actually do it" IS NOT a valid excuse. If your suggestion requires players to deliberately disable it to stop it from being misused, your suggestion is bad.

If my maths is wrong, please inform me. Because I kinda suck at it.

Now remove the terribly insulting conversation from your original post.

Now then. Before this is locked, let me clear this up. You need to painstakingly wait for the Ore to convert into Diamond Ore, then you need to manually, MANUALLY, replace the ore. You must only put one Coal Ore beneath the Endstone, otherwise it wouldn't work. So, letting Minecraft run while you have a snooze ain't gonna produce 2+ Diamond Ores. Clear?

Moreover, I'm not those kind of people who scream JUST DISABLE IT IN THE OPTIONS or ITS OPTIONAL. So, unless you really, know me, please do not place false accusations about me.