THREAD STATUS: Closed, unless somebody gives me some actual reasoning and advice of how I could keep this thread going
I have been mentioning that I have DISBANDED this thread, however ever since it was necroed out from the depths of the forums, I see flame wars everywhere.Please refrain from using hurtful language and if a staff is seeing this, consider closing the thread unless some improvements can be seen.
Note: For the last time, THESE THINGS WON'T SPAWN IN THE OVERWORLD!!!
Before you read this, I would love to thank..
Myself, for thinking of the idea and making it an actual thread(Hehe)
My virtual dog muffins, for being adorable
Stealthman917, for being an awesome supporter by sending me in game images, ways to improve this thread, and currently making a mod for this idea
Mark719, creator of the magical crops mod, who is also creating a mod for this idea
Voxelizer, for making the most awesome suggestion banner I have ever seen, and making this thread have awesome pics to go along with the idea And finally, everybody who has supported me to the front of the suggestion page
Another thing that nobody has been confused with but MIGHT be confused with is this thread: http://www.minecraft...w-and-revamped/
It is also about a nether spider, only that it doesn't set the player on fire, it spawns very rarely, it's extremely giant, it creates colonies, and it has a stage of growth with male and female. So if you're a staff member, please do not lock this thread for redundancy, because this thread is completely different except for the fact that there is a spider in the nether. Also, a lot of people are supporting this. I don't want to let them down...[/size]
[size=medium]Lets see how many hostile mobs are in the overworld(excluding bosses.) Endermen, creepers, zombies, skeletons, spiders, cavespiders, slimes, silverfish, and witches. Overall 9(Sorry if I forgot to mention one).[/size]
[size=medium]Lets count how many hostile mobs are in the Nether. Ghasts, Zombie pigmen, magma cubes, blazes, and wither skeletons. Overall 5, and 2 of those can only be found in rare nether fortresses, while zombie pigmen only attack you when provoked, making them actually neutral.[/size]
[size=medium]This is the main reason why I think there should be a new mob in the nether.The nether is supposed to be an unforgiving place, it's literally Hell in Minecraft. And yet the only real threat you face are falling off cliffs into lava/low ground, and Ghasts, which can be easily killed with one blow of a bow. It just seems to make little sense how the Nether is so easy to tackle. [/size]
[size=medium]So here is a new mob I wish to present:[size=large]The Nether Spider.[/size][/size]
[size=medium](Picture created by Voxelizer. Thank you for your support!)[/size]
[size=medium]The reason I chose a spider as the new mob is because[/size]
[size=medium]1. A Nether Spider sounds pretty cool, don't you think? [/size]
[size=medium]2. You remember the most useless sword enchantment of all... Bane of Arthropods. I wanted to make a reason that makes Bane of Arthropods an enchantment worth getting.[/size]
[size=medium](Thank you Stealthman917 for the awesome ingame pics! [/size][size=medium])[/size]
[size=medium]Profile(Health, damage, etc)[/size]
[size=medium]Here is the profile. The Nether Spider will share the same size, health(16 hit points) and texture of a normal spider, only that it's red. However, it will move as quickly as a Cave spider.[/size]
[size=medium]The reason this mob will be very dangerous is because they could not only climb walls, but [size=large]they can jump 3 blocks high[/size], and once contacted with the player, it will set the player on fire. They will have the same spawn rate of magma cubes.[/size]
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In easy mode, it will give 3 hitpoints of damage(1.5 hearts of damage), while setting the player on fire for 2 seconds.
[size=medium]On normal mode, it will give 3 hitpoints of damage([/size][size=medium]1.5 hearts of damage)[/size][size=medium], while setting the player on fire for 5 seconds.[/size]
[size=medium]On hard mode, it will give 5 hitpoints of damage(2.5 hearts of damage), while setting the player on fire for 8 seconds.[/size]
[size=medium](Amount of damage has been changed because apparently a lot of people found it too OP, and a simple experiment proved it...).[/size]
[size=medium]When contacted with a wither skeleton, there will be a very rare chance that there will be a wither jockey(As rare as wither skull drop rates).[/size]
[size=large]Loot[/size]
[size=medium]When killed, they will drop 2 strings 50% of the time, a spider eye 30% of the time, and a new item called [/size]Nether Spider legs 20% of the time. [size=medium]What Nether Spider legs does is very special.[/size]
[size=medium]1. It can be used as food, it will refill 2.5 hungerbars, however, it will give you a poison effect for 9 seconds.[/size]
[size=medium]2. You can feed it to dogs.[/size]
[size=medium]3. Because nether spiders jump pretty high, when nether spider legs are brewed with awkward potion, it will result in a [size=large]potion of jump boost[/size].[/size][size=medium]A normal potion of jump boost will last for 3 minutes, while you can jump 2 blocks at once. When you use redstone to increase the duration of the effect, you get it for 7 minutes. If you use glowstone to increase the power of the effect, you can jump 5 blocks at once(Thank you Dungeon_Raider for reminding me about potion duration/effect changes.).[/size]
[size=medium][size=medium](Picture created by Voxelizer. Thank you for your support!)[/size]
[size=medium]So Whaddya all think? Is this balanced enough to be in the game? Reasonable, logical feedback is appreciated![/size][size=medium][/size][/size]
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You forgot villager zombies and spider jockeys in the list.
You also forgot to mention how high jump boost potion can allow you to jump and if it can be boosted with redstone/glowstone.
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You forgot villager zombies and spider jockeys in the list.
You also forgot to mention how high jump boost potion can allow you to jump and if it can be boosted with redstone/glowstone.
Well, I didn't count villager zombies and spider jockeys because villager zombies have the same traits as zombies, only that they look different. Spider Jockeys are more like 2 mobs mashed together, so I didn't include that either. About the increased potion time and effect, golly, thanks for reminding me. Going to add them in my post.
I actually just changed it to Nether Spider... now to think of it, Lava spider seems pretty nice. I might change it later, but not now. Other things to do.
I'm just afraid that people in Hard mode are gonna whine because it does 9 HEARTS OF DAMAGE. The player without armor, has 10 hearts. And with the burning effect, it's an insta kill. Seems a little hard there. Well, then again, it is hard mode...
I kinda do agree now that 9 hearts may be too OP. Maybe make it like a cave spider. I'll show you an example.
Easy:
Damage: 4 (2 hearts)
On Easy, you don't get set on fire.
Normal:
Damage: 4 (2 hearts)
On Normal, you get set on fire for 5 seconds (2.5 hearts if you don't have fire protection or fire resistance).
Hard:
Damage: 6 (3 hearts)
On Hard, you get set on fire for 10 seconds (5 hearts if you don't have fire protection or fire resistance).
Players may like this more for a few reasons:
It fits the Nether Spider more.
You can prepare for it more (Get fire protection/fire resistance).
It gives Fire resistance and fire protection more use.
Nether Spiders can two-shot you in Normal difficulty? That sounds too OP, although I do like the idea of obtaining Jump Boost potions in Survival mode.
I have been mentioning that I have DISBANDED this thread, however ever since it was necroed out from the depths of the forums, I see flame wars everywhere.Please refrain from using hurtful language and if a staff is seeing this, consider closing the thread unless some improvements can be seen.
Note: For the last time, THESE THINGS WON'T SPAWN IN THE OVERWORLD!!!
Before you read this, I would love to thank..
Myself, for thinking of the idea and making it an actual thread(Hehe)
My virtual dog muffins, for being adorable
Stealthman917, for being an awesome supporter by sending me in game images, ways to improve this thread, and currently making a mod for this idea
Mark719, creator of the magical crops mod, who is also creating a mod for this idea
Voxelizer, for making the most awesome suggestion banner I have ever seen, and making this thread have awesome pics to go along with the idea
And finally, everybody who has supported me to the front of the suggestion page
Another thing that nobody has been confused with but MIGHT be confused with is this thread:
http://www.minecraft...w-and-revamped/
It is also about a nether spider, only that it doesn't set the player on fire, it spawns very rarely, it's extremely giant, it creates colonies, and it has a stage of growth with male and female. So if you're a staff member, please do not lock this thread for redundancy, because this thread is completely different except for the fact that there is a spider in the nether. Also, a lot of people are supporting this. I don't want to let them down...[/size]
[size=medium]Lets see how many hostile mobs are in the overworld(excluding bosses.) Endermen, creepers, zombies, skeletons, spiders, cavespiders, slimes, silverfish, and witches. Overall 9(Sorry if I forgot to mention one).[/size]
[size=medium]Lets count how many hostile mobs are in the Nether. Ghasts, Zombie pigmen, magma cubes, blazes, and wither skeletons. Overall 5, and 2 of those can only be found in rare nether fortresses, while zombie pigmen only attack you when provoked, making them actually neutral.[/size]
[size=medium]This is the main reason why I think there should be a new mob in the nether.The nether is supposed to be an unforgiving place, it's literally Hell in Minecraft. And yet the only real threat you face are falling off cliffs into lava/low ground, and Ghasts, which can be easily killed with one blow of a bow. It just seems to make little sense how the Nether is so easy to tackle. [/size]
[size=medium]So here is a new mob I wish to present:[size=large]The Nether Spider.[/size][/size]
[size=medium](Picture created by Voxelizer. Thank you for your support!)[/size]
[size=medium]The reason I chose a spider as the new mob is because[/size]
[size=medium]1. A Nether Spider sounds pretty cool, don't you think? [/size]
[size=medium]2. You remember the most useless sword enchantment of all... Bane of Arthropods. I wanted to make a reason that makes Bane of Arthropods an enchantment worth getting.[/size]
[size=medium](Thank you Stealthman917 for the awesome ingame pics! [/size][size=medium])[/size]
[size=medium]Profile(Health, damage, etc)[/size]
[size=medium]Here is the profile. The Nether Spider will share the same size, health(16 hit points) and texture of a normal spider, only that it's red. However, it will move as quickly as a Cave spider.[/size]
[size=medium]The reason this mob will be very dangerous is because they could not only climb walls, but [size=large]they can jump 3 blocks high[/size], and once contacted with the player, it will set the player on fire. They will have the same spawn rate of magma cubes.[/size]
(Picture created by Voxelizer. Thank you for your support!)
In easy mode, it will give 3 hitpoints of damage(1.5 hearts of damage), while setting the player on fire for 2 seconds.
[size=medium]On normal mode, it will give 3 hitpoints of damage([/size][size=medium]1.5 hearts of damage)[/size][size=medium], while setting the player on fire for 5 seconds.[/size]
[size=medium]On hard mode, it will give 5 hitpoints of damage(2.5 hearts of damage), while setting the player on fire for 8 seconds.[/size]
[size=medium](Amount of damage has been changed because apparently a lot of people found it too OP, and a simple experiment proved it...).[/size]
[size=medium]When contacted with a wither skeleton, there will be a very rare chance that there will be a wither jockey(As rare as wither skull drop rates).[/size]
[size=large]Loot[/size]
[size=medium]When killed, they will drop 2 strings 50% of the time, a spider eye 30% of the time, and a new item called [/size]Nether Spider legs 20% of the time. [size=medium]What Nether Spider legs does is very special.[/size]
[size=medium]1. It can be used as food, it will refill 2.5 hungerbars, however, it will give you a poison effect for 9 seconds.[/size]
[size=medium]2. You can feed it to dogs.[/size]
[size=medium]3. Because nether spiders jump pretty high, when nether spider legs are brewed with awkward potion, it will result in a [size=large]potion of jump boost[/size].[/size][size=medium]A normal potion of jump boost will last for 3 minutes, while you can jump 2 blocks at once. When you use redstone to increase the duration of the effect, you get it for 7 minutes. If you use glowstone to increase the power of the effect, you can jump 5 blocks at once(Thank you Dungeon_Raider for reminding me about potion duration/effect changes.).[/size]
[size=medium][size=medium](Picture created by Voxelizer. Thank you for your support!)[/size]
[size=medium]So Whaddya all think? Is this balanced enough to be in the game? Reasonable, logical feedback is appreciated![/size][size=medium][/size][/size]
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I think this is a good idea, great idea actually, but I'm not sure if this would be good in vanilla, so I'm on the fence with this.EDIT: If the Hell Spider has 16 hearts, support.
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You also forgot to mention how high jump boost potion can allow you to jump and if it can be boosted with redstone/glowstone.
"Colder than the ice that cover the stones and freezes the rivers"
"Colder than the north wind blowing through a winter-bound forest"
"Colder than all these is the smile of a Shade of the Dark"
However, this post was a nice surprise. It actually makes a lot of sense, and I've wanted a jump boost potion in the game for a while.
Also, the mob is 100% balanced. I would suggest a different name for the "HellSpider", but I can't think of a better one myself.
Anyways, support.
Magma Spider
Lava Spider
Easy:
Damage: 4 (2 hearts)
On Easy, you don't get set on fire.
Normal:
Damage: 4 (2 hearts)
On Normal, you get set on fire for 5 seconds (2.5 hearts if you don't have fire protection or fire resistance).
Hard:
Damage: 6 (3 hearts)
On Hard, you get set on fire for 10 seconds (5 hearts if you don't have fire protection or fire resistance).
Players may like this more for a few reasons: