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Cubic Chunks: Reduced lag, infinite height, and more [The #1 Suggestion Thread of all time!][Updated! 6/14]
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Not without the permission of the server. Regardless, TNT explodes after falling only around 60 blocks.
Infinite height and depth is not the only thing this suggestion offers. Besides, is a world 500 blocks by 500 blocks not enough for you? Is a normal bow not enough for you? Is three cows not enough for you? That argument is unreasonable. Yes, you can do everything normal minecraft offers in a 500*500 block space. Yes, a normal bow kills creepers. Yes, three cows are technically enough for breeding and food. But the entire idea is to push the limits. A sky base at y=225 (the current build height) may be enough, but not if it is 255 blocks tall, or even 100 blocks tall.
And again, infinite height is not the only thing this suggestion has to offer. 3D Biomes are the best example of an idea that would pretty much be impossible without this. You may not care about lag reduction now (niether do I), but that is because minecraft can't push the limits for high end computers or it would lose a majority of people who play the game on the lower end. And these people on the lower end (on laptops, on computers from before 2000) are struggling to play correctly because of the lag. Don't be selfish and say you don't support anything because it wouldn't effect you.
In this post you also contradicted yourself, because in an earlier post you said you do not care about the build height, yet here you state that y=128 is enough.
No, I don't. But that is irrelevant. Your assumption that people will be able to drop TNT from great heights beyond the view limit is implausible as TNT cannot fall that far before exploding. The current world height is 256 yes? and sea level 64? well already the height limit is too far for TNT to cause any damage if dropped from the current height limit. Your entire argument is not valid.
Besides, the benefits far outweigh any negatives that have been brought up in the entire history of this post.
Also, factions aren't everything.
as long as i can still use xray.Xray will still work to some extent, but only for loaded chunks.
Hello! OP here, here to explain a couple things.
First, the build height:
Like this FAQ says, server owners have always been able to set the max build height. You can literally go set up a server right now, go into the server config file, and set the maximum build height to 200, 128, or even 23. If you set it to 23, the only way you can place or break blocks is if you go all the way underground!
About faction mods being ruined:
What you should be seeing is this:
Obviously, from your posts, if faction mods took advantage of cubic chunks, it would ruin them. They don't have to do that. They can be exactly the same as they always have been, and all the mod author needs to do is change the 'claiming' system to claim entire columns of chunks. Bam! Now you can play on faction servers, and you will notice absolutely no change, except less lag.
Also, X-ray hacks being disabled is optional. It can be turned off or not implemented at all.
Thank you for your time!
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There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
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This all depends on the maker of factions.
Of course tons of people like faction servers. It can be done without problems. Basically, stop bugging us about a different piece of software. Bug the maker of factions about what he would do when/if infinite height becomes a thing. Again, unless he has a genius idea of how to make it fun and use the features of this system, he will likely keep the claiming the same. And btw, factions doesn't technically claim chunks themselves either, x/z chunk coordinates for claims are stored in the
config filedatabase and applies to all heights. Therefore plugging factions into this system should already just work flawlessly just as it did before.Rather than a mod or a hack, let's call X-Ray a utility. If we view it like this, I think it is not unlike the console command "time set day"; sometimes it may be useful, other times it may be cheating.
Hopefully we can end the discussion on these sorts of things. In your own world feel free to do what you want, but on a server; you do what the admin envisages for that server. If the admin doesn't want X-Ray to be used, you shouldn't use it. The cubic chunks system will simply give the admins the ability to enforce this.
As for designating any region of the minecraft world, for permissions or for any other reason; we always use coordinate ranges. If it lies within a certain x, y and z, it is included. In this regard, nothing changes, except that a mod maker *may* have more flexibility when playing around on the y axis [depending on the nature of the mod].
Anyway...
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Agreed. But if you use x-ray for finding ores. It is still cheating. As you wouldn't have found the resources without it. Anyway this is getting off topic
What do you mean? Any discussion we can have about the possible faults of Cubic Chunks only allows us to figure out what could be done to make it better. We want to have a solid answer to everything Mojang could possibly ask when they acknowledge this suggestion.
That really IS off topic. You're a moderator, you should know better. You should go sit in the corner of shame.
As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
-The Gods Of The Copybook Headings, by Rudyard Kipling.