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Cubic Chunks: Reduced lag, infinite height, and more [The #1 Suggestion Thread of all time!][Updated! 6/14]
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Nope.
The main thing that's always bugged me about Minecraft is how limited the world generation has to be due to the engine not being able to handle it. This method of chunk handling would allow for pretty much any potential world generation you could imagine and I would love to see that be a possibility.
I'm not crossing my fingers or anything because for some reason I doubt they'll rewrite chunk handling to be cubic as suggested any time soon though sadly. How much work (hours spent coding, debugging, etc.) do you think would need to go into the rewrite for this to happen?
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4096 chunks per player is quite a loss. Though, most MP servers have 4^3 chunks, which is 64, but they have around 70-300 players, which means that their servers will have to load (313600-403200000) chunks... Sure. (Normal servers would have 16 chunks per player or 1120-4800 chunks)
normal minecraft chunks are 16^2 *256 blocks, this means that MC normally loads 65536 blocks per chunk.
Your idea would be 16^3 blocks, which would be 4096 blocks per chunk.
So, final tallies:
- Cubic: 313600-403200000 chunks * 4096 blocks = 1284505600 - 1.65×10¹² blocks loaded
- Normal: 1120-4800 chunks * 65536 Blocks = 73400320 - 314572800 blocks
So, the winner for least blocks loaded in a 4^N area is the normal minecraft chunks.... 10^12 blocks is a lot... 1000x Memory usage ahoy!I dont think you took into account the fact that chunk range will be spherical instead of cylindrical. This would greatly reduce the number of blocks loaded.
Where did you get this number? 64*300 is nowhere near either of those numbers... didnt you just say that they had 64 chunks per player?
anyway, please explain where you got the idea that the range in which chunks are loaded changes....
And FYI: By your math, whatever you did, you certainly failed to make the cubic to normal chunks in proportion to 16. https://www.google.c...lient=firefox-a
If there was an MCEdit version of the Cubic Chunks mod, I think I would actually be able to do this test.
Your math is just plain wrong.
Say a server loads chunks in a 16 chunk area for each player, and there are 70 players on the server. Cubic chunks have 16^3 = 4096 blocks, linear (current) chunks have 16*16*256 =65536 blocks.
Cubic chunks: 16^3 = 4096 chunks per player, 4096 * 70 = 286,720 chunks in total. Total blocks: 4096 * 286,720 = 1,174,405,120 blocks.
Linear (current) chunks: 16^2 = 256 chunks per player, 256 * 70 = 17,920 chunks in total. Total blocks: 17,920 * 65536 = 1,174,405,120 blocks.
As you can see, they load exactly the same amount of blocks, because they load the same area.
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Curse PremiumUuuum...No?
Let's do this:
That's for a view distance of 8. Sphere needs more memory.
Enough math for today.
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- Longor1996
i'm not 100% sure but shouldn't it be
after all the diameter of the sphere is 2VD
you stand in the square and can look 8 chunks in each direction, right?
so it would be
in short square needs double the amount of memory
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And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
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Curse PremiumI knew I forgot something!
Yes, its "V (in chunks) = 2VD * 2VD".
- Longor1996
The math for this has already exhaustively done. Anything less than 11 blocks view radius reduces lag. 10 blocks view radius has a 3% reduction in lag. Everything lower than that reduces lag by more and more.