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This may not affect load that much, because invisible chunks still need to be loaded into memory for them to run. For this to be the most effective, the player will have to load at least 512 blocks along the vertical axis, to cover the current world height. Unloading culled terrain from memory will mess up redstone and mob spawning, among other things. I would agree that all render distances cover at least 16 chunks up and 16 chunks down (the equivalent of far render distance). Better yet, set vertical as separate from horizontal.

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No mater how hard I think I can't come up with a single reason why would oceans stop you from having "infinite" height O_o

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What would oceans stop? You do realize they don't go all the way down, right?

You can't have a big enough rise without a big enough run. Unless you want almost completely vertical terrain. Take the longest perpendicular lines and put it on a 2d minecraft map (like amidst). Place it on any coordinate you like and no matter what, each 4 sides will always hit an ocean somewhere (well that's a no brainer, oceans are located in all directions) You can definitely have enormous heights that seem infinite, but they won't come close to reaching y= 30,000,000 like explained on the thread, But that only applies to default world types because oceans are flat. The landscape has to go along with one ocean to the other.

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That makes sense, thank you. Honestly, I think Skyrim-Throat-of-the-World height is good enough.

The Throat of the World is only 766.5 blocks above sea level. source
The current sea level in Minecraft is Y62.
Rounding the throat of the world's height to 767, that would mean the building limit is only 829, so the height of the world would only be 3.23828125(repeats forever) times higher.

Is it possible to delete these polls as well as the mention "Updated 6/14" in the thread's title? It feels more outdated than updated.

in the top there is a Tools button. in there should b "Edit Title" or something similar, and there might b something saying "Edit Thread" or something similar, allowing u to remove the polls

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You can't have a big enough rise without a big enough run. Unless you want almost completely vertical terrain. Take the longest perpendicular lines and put it on a 2d minecraft map (like amidst). Place it on any coordinate you like and no matter what, each 4 sides will always hit an ocean somewhere (well that's a no brainer, oceans are located in all directions) You can definitely have enormous heights that seem infinite, but they won't come close to reaching y= 30,000,000 like explained on the thread, But that only applies to default world types because oceans are flat. The landscape has to go along with one ocean to the other.

Three words. Depth. Base. Size.

Three more. Biome. Depth. Weight.

This makes it so that it doesn't matter where the world height is, the terrain is still the same.

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You can't have a big enough rise without a big enough run. Unless you want almost completely vertical terrain. Take the longest perpendicular lines and put it on a 2d minecraft map (like amidst). Place it on any coordinate you like and no matter what, each 4 sides will always hit an ocean somewhere (well that's a no brainer, oceans are located in all directions) You can definitely have enormous heights that seem infinite, but they won't come close to reaching y= 30,000,000 like explained on the thread, But that only applies to default world types because oceans are flat. The landscape has to go along with one ocean to the other.

The idea of utilizing the whole 30 000 000 blocks of height to generate terrain within is silly on it's own because the available space is cube. It would be vertical with 45 degree slope being the most flat you can get, and oceans have nothing to do with that.

Whether you like it or not, the issue with there being very high up roofs out of the loading range and seeing the sky, COMPLETELY screws you over.

Is this any closer to being implemented? I hope to see this part of vanilla MC by 1.9.

I don't think that infinitely tall mountains are really in the question, however that is a valid point regarding height limitations due to oceans. Perhaps biome sizes or frequencies could be adjusted.

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I don't think that infinitely tall mountains are really in the question, however that is a valid point regarding height limitations due to oceans. Perhaps biome sizes or frequencies could be adjusted.

Maybe it could be possible to specify the biome sizes in the same manner as ground layers can currently be edited before generating the world.

Quote from AbjectCone047 jumpWhether you like it or not, the issue with there being very high up roofs out of the loading range and seeing the sky, COMPLETELY screws you over.

ive thought about this, and theoretically there is a solution to it. 2 actually.

above a certain hight, as you pointed out, the chunks far below you dont render anymore and when youre looking down, youre looking into the sky. youre sitting on a mountain, but there is no terrain far below you anymore.

so solution no1: the view would be blocked by clouds. if you reach a certain hight, at the edge of your view range, the game would render clouds or fog below in the horizontal plane to completely cover the naked sky. this might be the easier method.

not really ideal, but possible.

solution no 2: some mods add voxel maps, that show the top down view of your world in a minimap. one way to solve your problem would be, if above a certain hight, the game rendered a 2d image of the top down view of your world to cover the view of the sky, and have it basically as a background behind your loaded chunks.

the good news is that this would only have to be calculated once for already generated chunks.


if you go up high enough, terrain would completely stop generating. (youve basically reached the top of the tallest mountain).

flying even higher (through creative mode for example) would make the picture blend over into a generic picture of a planet. similar to how it looks like, when a galacticraft rocket launches.



and in the opposite direction, if you dig down. if there was hole or ravine that goes all the way up to the edge of your view distance, there would just be a black fog rendering over the sky, as if the light from up there doesnt reach you anymore.

Would beacons have a problem? Either way, SUPPORT!

WHOA WHOA WHOA Would this stop fill clocks from working if you're not in range? if so, then NO SUPPORT NO NO NO NO NO

But if not, then complete support.

Will making a mod available reduce the likelihood that this will be implemented in vanilla?

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Will making a mod available reduce the likelihood that this will be implemented in vanilla?

It would more likely do the opposite. It would demonstrate how well the concept works and handle some of the heavy lifting with regards to solving lighting problems and similar technical complications. Then Mojang could implement the mod into their base code either directly or putting their own spin on things.

But to the end player it won't really matter, since either way once the mod is complete we'd be able to play Minecraft with cubic chunks.