Jousting...
STUPENDOUS IDEA!
But there must be balance, as with without balance, things go downhill quickly.
Now then, lances are a great idea, espelcialy now that horses have been added. But, as no-one wants to be mown down by a diamond-armoured warrior on a charger the first time they spawn on a PVP server, lances would probably have to be only found in strongholds.
Or, why not have wood lances be the only tier craftible by the player, and iron, gold and diamond lances could be found in dungeons.
Also, maybe if, while riding a horse or a gryphon, and you hit another player on a horse or gryphon at full force, there would be a slight chance that it would dismount them, and the chance could be increased with each progressive tier.
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hmm. I would have to agree with the wooden only craftable one, and the other tiers can be found in the stronghold/dungeons.
Thanks for the ideas for the idea! But i would still have to say that the saddle mounted lance holder should still be there for balance.
P.S. im replying becuase i suggested lances here.
um... why is this not a mod? Sorry but i cant support this being in vanilla minecraft but, it would make an amazing mod!
I would say pitch this to Drzark (of mocreatures). Mostly because most of the mechanics are already in place. like mounting, flying, spawn control and such.
heh heh.. if eagles were in mocreatures u could breed one with a lion to get a griff. haha that would be funny
A Gryphon mod would be cool, but i think one of the main reasons we don't want this turned into a mod is that using a mod is slightly immersion breaking. In the back of your mind, you can't help but think "This isn't official... This isn't supported by the creators of the game" And that kinda takes away from the gameplay experience. Modders do amazing jobs, and i respect them greatly, but we'd just much rather see Mojang add them to vanilla, even if it takes longer. The path of least resistance isn't always the best
Love the idea! Learned how to put signatures just to do this (and while I was at it added my installer). Mojang most likely will ignore this, but good luck.
Thanks. I'm actually pretty hopeful that they will notice us. Especially now that we have over 13348 views 504 replies, and with the addition of firewave15 and you, we have 32 bannerlords proudly spreading the influence of Gryphons everywhere they post! thank you =)
Yes! I just read them. I really like that the saddle mounted lance holder would have limited uses and then break. That would add even more balance, which you can never have enough of!
The mounted shield is cool too. I agree with how you said it'd work, but i have one suggestion... That you can't use a mounted shield at the same time as a mounted lance holder. It might be neat if you had to choose one depending on your play style and combat strategies!
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Thank you! Yeah it would definitely be cool to have the ability to dye your Gryphon.
A Gryphon mod would be cool, but i think one of the main reasons we don't want this turned into a mod is that using a mod is slightly immersion breaking. In the back of your mind, you can't help but think "This isn't official... This isn't supported by the creators of the game" And that kinda takes away from the gameplay experience. Modders do amazing jobs, and i respect them greatly, but we'd just much rather see Mojang add them to vanilla, even if it takes longer. The path of least resistance isn't always the best
Couldn't have done it without you and the other supporters
Hm interesting... That's actually the first time this has been suggested.
Thanks. I'm actually pretty hopeful that they will notice us. Especially now that we have over 13348 views 504 replies, and with the addition of firewave15 and you, we have 32 bannerlords proudly spreading the influence of Gryphons everywhere they post! thank you =)
Yes! I just read them. I really like that the saddle mounted lance holder would have limited uses and then break. That would add even more balance, which you can never have enough of!
The mounted shield is cool too. I agree with how you said it'd work, but i have one suggestion... That you can't use a mounted shield at the same time as a mounted lance holder. It might be neat if you had to choose one depending on your play style and combat strategies!
Hmmm Ya can only equip the one saddle mounted thingy.
I definitely think any flying mount should be hard to get and not mass easy.
Look at Chococraft to see how they did their mounts- they're perfect, but a bit too easy for my taste. I wish there was this sort of 'get the egg, hatch it' thing. But it should be like a quest almost.
"Earned" is the word I liked in the banner. Because right now on our server I feel like the golden (flying) chocobos are waaaay too easy to get and it's kind of . But they're also simple and work well so I love the mod.
For vanilla though, if they added something like this, I'd definitely want a big 'thing' involved. You happen to find some rare gryphons and you have to steal the egg- it isn't easy, then you have to hatch it which requires some special stuff that's hard to get, etc.
I definitely think any flying mount should be hard to get and not mass easy.
Look at Chococraft to see how they did their mounts- they're perfect, but a bit too easy for my taste. I wish there was this sort of 'get the egg, hatch it' thing. But it should be like a quest almost.
"Earned" is the word I liked in the banner. Because right now on our server I feel like the golden (flying) chocobos are waaaay too easy to get and it's kind of . But they're also simple and work well so I love the mod.
For vanilla though, if they added something like this, I'd definitely want a big 'thing' involved. You happen to find some rare gryphons and you have to steal the egg- it isn't easy, then you have to hatch it which requires some special stuff that's hard to get, etc.
I can tell that you really understand the importance of balance and challenge. I completely agree that obtaining a Gryphon should be like a quest. A legendary quest, at that!
It shouldn't be as simple as "find egg, fly, profit" lol. It should be something you have to prepare for!
Imagine having to stock up and go on an expedition for several in-game days in search of a nest!
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I can tell that you really understand the importance of balance and challenge. I completely agree that obtaining a Gryphon should be like a quest. A legendary quest, at that!
It shouldn't be as simple as "find egg, fly, profit" lol. It should be something you have to prepare for!
Imagine having to stock up and go on an expedition for several in-game days in search of a nest!
Thanks for your support!
Yea I actually posted on the chococraft thread mentioning the difficulty but he wants to keep things simple, which is fine too. But in a SMP setting it's important to scale things a certain way. There used to be a hot air balloon mod that took a ton of coal to work and it mostly drifted, so it wasn't OP.
You've obviously taken that into account and Gyphons fit the world well enough I think it'd make a great addition to Vanilla. Hopefully with the addition of horses this sort of thing won't be too far off. GL
We have started to get some votes (only 4-5 points atm) but it's not getting much visibility. If you some to this thread and think "I am going to make a suggestion". Stop. Go do it on reddit. Why? Because the more posts+votes the more visible the topic will become.
And unfortunately, Mojang pays a whole lot more attention to reddit than to the forum (it's there forum!), so please, consider moving any discussion you may want to have over to reddit. jde and I are keeping our eyes on it, so don't worry that he won't see what you have to say.
Yea I actually posted on the chococraft thread mentioning the difficulty but he wants to keep things simple, which is fine too. But in a SMP setting it's important to scale things a certain way. There used to be a hot air balloon mod that took a ton of coal to work and it mostly drifted, so it wasn't OP.
You've obviously taken that into account and Gyphons fit the world well enough I think it'd make a great addition to Vanilla. Hopefully with the addition of horses this sort of thing won't be too far off. GL
Whoa, that hot air balloon mod sounds awesome. And i don't even use mods!
Thanks for the GL. That actually means a lot to me. We've put our hearts into this!
We have started to get some votes (only 4-5 points atm) but it's not getting much visibility. If you some to this thread and think "I am going to make a suggestion". Stop. Go do it on reddit. Why? Because the more posts+votes the more visible the topic will become.
And unfortunately, Mojang pays a whole lot more attention to reddit than to the forum (it's there forum!), so please, consider moving any discussion you may want to have over to reddit. jde and I are keeping our eyes on it, so don't worry that he won't see what you have to say.
Ohhh... A banner linking to the reddit. Genius... Well played zeel, well played! XD
But yeah, guys, i agree with him. We really need your support on reddit right now. Not that your support on here isn't appreciated, no sir. We still need y'all keeping this alive too, of course, but reddit is a very good opportunity for us to get Mojang's attention right now, where as this forum topic is a good way of us getting their attention in the long run.
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Completely balanced and not at all OP, wow I expected something like infinite fly and great amounts of damage while being able to fly and over all being invincible.
Completely balanced and not at all OP, wow I expected something like infinite fly and great amounts of damage while being able to fly and over all being invincible.
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Thank you. Yeah, those over powered features wouldn't be fun at all. Usually, challenge = fun.
1: The would need to be super rare. Like Mooshroom Biome rare.
Imagine the base you could have. A stable in a massive farm approaching the main house with a beacon and finally a spire with your Gryphon perched on top!!
1: The would need to be super rare. Like Mooshroom Biome rare.
Imagine the base you could have. A stable in a massive farm approaching the main house with a beacon and finally a spire with your Gryphon perched on top!!
Thanks for your support. I like your avatar. I can only assume that it is the face of a bear skin that you use on Minecraft, and that is awesome!
Yes it would need to be rare. Very rare.
And yeah, the awesome base possibilities are endless =D
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By that, I mean, what if, when riding a gryphon, it would refuse to fly within a small radius (say, five blocks by five block by five blocks) of a block of fire?
It would provide a small defence against gryphon melee attacks, but none against the rider's bow. And, you could still fly over fire, but just not within five blocks of it, so you could still drop potions on you enemies heads from above.
It would prevent gryphon riders from totally dominating the battle-field, but would be small enough as to not render gryphon useless in PVP.
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By that, I mean, what if, when riding a gryphon, it would refuse to fly within a small radius (say, five blocks by five block by five blocks) of a block of fire?
It would provide a small defence against gryphon melee attacks, but none against the rider's bow. And, you could still fly over fire, but just not within five blocks of it, so you could still drop potions on you enemies heads from above.
It would prevent gryphon riders from totally dominating the battle-field, but would be small enough as to not render gryphon useless in PVP.
Hmm that makes sense. Fire could be their main weakness in combat. I think i'll add this to the OP somewhere... Thanks.
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hmm. I would have to agree with the wooden only craftable one, and the other tiers can be found in the stronghold/dungeons.
Thanks for the ideas for the idea! But i would still have to say that the saddle mounted lance holder should still be there for balance.
P.S. im replying becuase i suggested lances here.
Woop. Unimportant stuff here.
Woop. Unimportant stuff here.
Thank you! Yeah it would definitely be cool to have the ability to dye your Gryphon.
A Gryphon mod would be cool, but i think one of the main reasons we don't want this turned into a mod is that using a mod is slightly immersion breaking. In the back of your mind, you can't help but think "This isn't official... This isn't supported by the creators of the game" And that kinda takes away from the gameplay experience. Modders do amazing jobs, and i respect them greatly, but we'd just much rather see Mojang add them to vanilla, even if it takes longer. The path of least resistance isn't always the best
Couldn't have done it without you and the other supporters
Hm interesting... That's actually the first time this has been suggested.
Thanks. I'm actually pretty hopeful that they will notice us. Especially now that we have over 13348 views 504 replies, and with the addition of firewave15 and you, we have 32 bannerlords proudly spreading the influence of Gryphons everywhere they post! thank you =)
Yes! I just read them. I really like that the saddle mounted lance holder would have limited uses and then break. That would add even more balance, which you can never have enough of!
The mounted shield is cool too. I agree with how you said it'd work, but i have one suggestion... That you can't use a mounted shield at the same time as a mounted lance holder. It might be neat if you had to choose one depending on your play style and combat strategies!
Hmmm Ya can only equip the one saddle mounted thingy.
Woop. Unimportant stuff here.
Woop. Unimportant stuff here.
Woop. Unimportant stuff here.
Woop. Unimportant stuff here.
Look at Chococraft to see how they did their mounts- they're perfect, but a bit too easy for my taste. I wish there was this sort of 'get the egg, hatch it' thing. But it should be like a quest almost.
"Earned" is the word I liked in the banner. Because right now on our server I feel like the golden (flying) chocobos are waaaay too easy to get and it's kind of . But they're also simple and work well so I love the mod.
For vanilla though, if they added something like this, I'd definitely want a big 'thing' involved. You happen to find some rare gryphons and you have to steal the egg- it isn't easy, then you have to hatch it which requires some special stuff that's hard to get, etc.
Nice! I'll come check it out in a sec
I can tell that you really understand the importance of balance and challenge. I completely agree that obtaining a Gryphon should be like a quest. A legendary quest, at that!
It shouldn't be as simple as "find egg, fly, profit" lol. It should be something you have to prepare for!
Imagine having to stock up and go on an expedition for several in-game days in search of a nest!
Thanks for your support!
Yea I actually posted on the chococraft thread mentioning the difficulty but he wants to keep things simple, which is fine too. But in a SMP setting it's important to scale things a certain way. There used to be a hot air balloon mod that took a ton of coal to work and it mostly drifted, so it wasn't OP.
You've obviously taken that into account and Gyphons fit the world well enough I think it'd make a great addition to Vanilla. Hopefully with the addition of horses this sort of thing won't be too far off. GL
We have started to get some votes (only 4-5 points atm) but it's not getting much visibility. If you some to this thread and think "I am going to make a suggestion". Stop. Go do it on reddit. Why? Because the more posts+votes the more visible the topic will become.
And unfortunately, Mojang pays a whole lot more attention to reddit than to the forum (it's there forum!), so please, consider moving any discussion you may want to have over to reddit. jde and I are keeping our eyes on it, so don't worry that he won't see what you have to say.
And bannerlords: consider switching your link to:
(if you know how)
Whoa, that hot air balloon mod sounds awesome. And i don't even use mods!
Thanks for the GL. That actually means a lot to me. We've put our hearts into this!
Ohhh... A banner linking to the reddit. Genius... Well played zeel, well played! XD
But yeah, guys, i agree with him. We really need your support on reddit right now. Not that your support on here isn't appreciated, no sir. We still need y'all keeping this alive too, of course, but reddit is a very good opportunity for us to get Mojang's attention right now, where as this forum topic is a good way of us getting their attention in the long run.
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Thank you. Yeah, those over powered features wouldn't be fun at all. Usually, challenge = fun.
Agreed.
One key things for me:
1: The would need to be super rare. Like Mooshroom Biome rare.
Imagine the base you could have. A stable in a massive farm approaching the main house with a beacon and finally a spire with your Gryphon perched on top!!
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1845612-a-guide-to-youtube-minecraft-letsplaystipsideas-followed-the-guide-add-your-channel/
Thanks for your support. I like your avatar. I can only assume that it is the face of a bear skin that you use on Minecraft, and that is awesome!
Yes it would need to be rare. Very rare.
And yeah, the awesome base possibilities are endless =D
What if gryphons would fear fire?
By that, I mean, what if, when riding a gryphon, it would refuse to fly within a small radius (say, five blocks by five block by five blocks) of a block of fire?
It would provide a small defence against gryphon melee attacks, but none against the rider's bow. And, you could still fly over fire, but just not within five blocks of it, so you could still drop potions on you enemies heads from above.
It would prevent gryphon riders from totally dominating the battle-field, but would be small enough as to not render gryphon useless in PVP.
Hmm that makes sense. Fire could be their main weakness in combat. I think i'll add this to the OP somewhere... Thanks.